HERE.
WELL GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
TODAY IS OCTOBER 1, 2020.
THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
WILL COME TO ORDER.
I'M TERESA MOSQUEDA.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> HERE.
>> SAWANT.
>> HERE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> HERE.
>> JUAREZ.
>> HERE.
>> LEWIS.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> PRESENT.
>> MINE, PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
WE HAVE EVERYONE IN IT
ATTENDANCE THIS MORNING.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AGAIN ON OUR FULL AGENDA
FOR DAY TWO OF THE OVERVIEW OF
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET FOR
2021.
WE SPENT ALL DAY YESTERDAY
HAVING A ROBUST CONVERSATION
WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND
THE CITY'S BUDGET OFFICE FOR
HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
TODAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION.
THIS MORNING WE WILL FOCUS IN
SESSION ONE ON THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS FOLLOWS THE SUMMER'S
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET INQUEST THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL LAUNCHED TO GET A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE
FUNDING IS CURRENTLY GOING.
WE'RE EXCITED TO HEAR MORE FROM
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, YOUR
QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS
RAISED AND TO GET MORE DETAILS
FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY
BUDGET'S OFFICE AS WE LOOK AT
2021.
THIS AFTERNOON WE WILL FOCUS ON
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, SMC
AND OED.
SEATTLE, THE FOLKS AT THE
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
HAVE BEEN SO KIND TO OFFER
ADDITIONAL TIME FOR US BECAUSE
WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO GET
INTO THE RACIAL EQUITY AND
COVID RESPONSE COMPONENTS AND
THANKS FOR WORKING WITH
DIRECTOR LEE AND HIS TEAM.
WE DID HAVE EXTRA TIME AT THE
END SO WE CAN COVER THOSE LAST
THREE SLIDES.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
YOUR TIME JUST AS A REMINDER WE
WILL DO 30 MINUTES OF PUBLIC
TESTIMONY THIS MORNING.
WE WILL END BY 1:00 P.M.
THIS MORNING NO LATER.
HOPEFULLY A LITTLE EARLIER.
WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE HOUR BREAK
FOR LUNCH AND WE WILL HAVE A
HARD STOP AGAIN THIS EVENING AT
5 P.M.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME
AND I JUST WANT TO DO A QUICK
SHOUTOUT TO OUR FOLKS FROM THE
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IN I.T.
AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WHO
HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS TO HELP
US RUN THESE REMOTE PUBLIC
MEETINGS.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TODAY'S
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
ALSO THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING
SURE THAT THE OED WAS REFLECTED
IN OUR BUDGET AS PUBLISHED
YESTERDAY SO THERE'S NO NEED TO
AMEND THE AGENDA TODAY.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO INTO
PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE DO HAVE A FEW FOLKS SIGNED
UP THIS MORNING.
THANK YO ALL FOR CALLING IN.
JUST A REMINDER IF YOU ARE NOT
ABLE TO CALL IN FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT WILL WILL BE PUBLIC
COMMENT PROVIDED FOR A LONG
PERIOD OF TIME ON TUESDAY
EVENING STARTING AT 5:30 P.M.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT SIGNUP SHEET
STARTS TWO HOURS PRIOR TO THAT
AND WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO A
MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH
THOSE WHO CAN CALL IN AT THIS
TIME.
I'M GOING TO START BY CALLING
THE FIRST THREE PEOPLE PRESENT.
YOU WILL HEAR A 10 SECOND
CHIMER AT THE END OF YOUR TIME.
WE'LL GIVE FOLKS TWO MINUTES
TODAY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I'LL CALL IN THE ORDER IN IT
WHICH YOU APPEAR AND I'M ALSO
GOING TO CALL FOLKS WHO ARE
LISTED BUT NOT PRESENT.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE
PAST BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF
THERE'S FOLKS LISTENING IN AND
THEY'RE NOT IN OUR LINE TO
TESTIFY AND THEY'RE ON THE
LISTED IN LINE, THAT'S AN
INDICATION TO THEM THEY NEED TO
GIVE US A CALL ON THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY LINE.
SO WITH THAT PLEASE NOTE WE ARE
CONTINUING TO WORK TO TRY TO
ENDEAVOR TO MAKE THIS REMOTE
PUBLIC TESTIMONY PROCESS
SMOOTHER EVERY TIME AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO GET
YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN AND THE
FIRST THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST
ARE HOWARD GAYLE, MELISSA TERRY
AND KATIE NOONER.
PLEASE PUSH STAR 6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF AND WE WILL ALSO
UNMUTE YOUR LINE OVER HERE BUT
YOU DO NEED TO HIT STAR 6 TO
UNMUTE.
GOOD MORNING, HOWARD.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
JUST GOING TO WAIT ANOTHER
SECOND HERE.
HOWARD GAYLE, FOLLOWED BY
MELISSA TERRY.
HOWARD, GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS HOWARD GAYLE FROM
DISTRICT 7. THIS MORNING YOU'RE
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE SPD
BUDGET $4.7 MILLION OF THAT
BUDGET IS FOR THE OFFICE OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY WHICH HAS
FAILED TO STOP OR HOLD
ACCOUNTABLE THE VAST MAJORITY
OF OFFICERS FOR THE ABUSE OF
THE LAST FOUR MONTHS WHICH NOW
CONTINUES.
THERE HAVE BEEN NEAR DEATH
EXPERIENCES, BRAIN TRAUMA, LOSS
OF SIGHT, 13 OFFICERS STANDING
AROUND WHILE THEY WATCH A WOMAN
WHO WAS FALSELY ARRESTED HAVE
SEIZURES REPEATEDLY.
SEVERE BURN AND CONCUSSION
WOUNDS, JUST THIS MONDAY WE SAW
AN OFFICER BRANDISHING A GUN AT
PROTESTERS WITHOUT CAUSE.
WE SAW A POLICE OFFICER RUN A
BIKE ACROSS A PROTESTER'S NECK.
THE RESPONSE OF THE OPA TO THAT
CASE WAS TO REFER THIS FOR
CRIMINAL CHARGES.
RAISING THE OBVIOUS QUESTION AS
TO WHY NONE OF THE OTHER ABUSE
WAS SO TREATED.
IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT FAR
TOO MUCH OF THE OPA'S NEARLY
$5 MILLION BUDGET IS ACTUALLY
BEEN USED THIS SUMMER TO AVOID
ACCOUNTABILITY.
SO PLEASE, I'M BEGGING THE
COUNCIL, AS PART OF DEFUNDING
AND REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY
AND POLICE, PLEASE DEFUND AN
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WHICH HAS
NOT PROVIDED ACCOUNTABILITY AND
REIMAGINE HAVING PUBLIC SAFETY
WITH ACCOUNTABILITY BASED ON A
CITIZEN INVESTIGATIVE MODEL ON
CITIZEN ACCOUNTABILITY AND NOT
ON SPENDING $5 MILLION
BASICALLY TO PAPER OVER THE
POLICE ABUSE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, HOWARD.
MELISSA, GOOD MORNING.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> HELLO?
>> GOOD MORNING, MELISSA.
>> HI.
THANKS FOR TAKING MY COMMENTS.
I AM IN DISTRICT 4 AND I HAVE
BEEN FIGHTING FOR BLACK LIVES
DURING THESE PROTESTS THIS
SUMMER AND I'M JUST APPALLED AT
SPD'S RESPONSE, AT THE MAYOR'S
RESPONSE, AT THE CITY
GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU STAND UP FOR
BLACK LIVES AND THE POLICE HAVE
BEEN, I MEAN MY DAUGHTER HAD A
FLASH BANG EXPLODE ON HER KNEE
THAT SHE'S STILL SCARRED FROM
IT.
I KNOW THAT'S VERY MINOR
COMPARED TO OTHER THINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ESPECIALLY
TO PEOPLE IN THE BLACK
COMMUNITY.
PLEASE I URGE YOU TO DEFUND
SPD.
PLEASE.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN
THIS MORNING, MELISSA.
KATIE, GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, KATIE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS KATIE.
I AM IN DISTRICT 2. I'D LIKE TO
SAY THANK YOU FOR SIDING ON THE
RIGHT SIDE OF THE FUTURE AND
HELPING US BUILD THE START OF
THINGS WITH THIS LAST
OVERRIDING OF THE VETO.
THAT WAS A BIG MOMENT IN
HISTORY AND I KNOW IT WAS
PROBABLY A HARD DECISION AND
APPRECIATE STEPPING ON A LIMB.
HOWEVER, JUST THE START.
WE DO NEED TO WORK ON DEFUNDING
SPD THIS NEXT YEAR BY AT LEAST
50%.
I'M GOING TO ASK WE TRY TO WORK
FOR 80% BECAUSE AS WE KNOW WHEN
WE ASKED FOR 50 WE DIDN'T QUITE
GET IT.
MAYBE IF WE ASK FOR MORE WE CAN
WORK ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE
ROAD TO ABOLISHMENT AT THE END
OF THE DAY.
WHEN JENNY DURKAN PUT OUT HER
RECENT BUDGET SHE INVESTED MORE
INTO THE POLICE THAN BLACK
COMMUNITIES AND I FIND THAT TO
BE RATHER BACKWARDS CONSIDERING
POLICE TRAUMATIZED BLACK
COMMUNITY SO MUCH AND IT JUST
SHOWS WE WOULD LIKE TO INVEST
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND
REBUILDING IT.
WE KNOW PREVENTATIVE MEASURES
IS INVESTIGATING IN YOUTH AND
GIVING THEM RESOURCES AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT GO ON TO
THE STREETS.
GROCERY STORES SO THEY DON'T
HAVE TO WALK A MILE TO THE
GROCERY STORE, THINGS LIKE THAT
AND GET CAUGHT UP IN EVEN
BEFORE THEY GET THERE.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE
CONTINUE THIS PROCESS IN
FINDING A WAY TO DEFUND AND
ABOLISH THE POLICE COMPLETELY.
THAT'LL TRULY BUILD A SOCIETY
THAT WE ARE DESIRING TODAY AS
WE CAN INVEST MORE IN
EDUCATION, MORE IN THE YOUTH
AND MORE INTO SOCIAL SERVICES
AND MENTAL HEALTH AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE COUNSELORS AND ALL OF
THOSE THINGS.
THIS IS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE
MORNING MARCH.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS.
QUAN, I WANT TO NOTE IT SAYS
YOU'RE NOT PRESENT, AS WELL AS
KELLY.
IF YOU ARE LISTENING IN ON THE
LISTEN IN LINE, PLEASE DO
FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR
DIALING BACK IN TO OUR ZOOM
MEETING HERE SO WE CAN HAVE YOU
PRESENT.
THAT'S FOR QUAN AND KELLY.
I'M GOING TO GO TO THE TWO
LISTED AS PRESENT.
THAT'S LEAH.
GOOD MORNING, LEAH.
>> HI, GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
HI, MY NAME IS LEAH IN DISTRICT
4. I'M CALLING, FIRST I WOULD
LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL
FOR OVERRIDING THE VETO AS
KATIE SAID WE KNOW THAT WAS A
HARD DECISION BEING MADE AND WE
APPRECIATE YOU STICKING TO YOUR
WORD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AS A
DISTRICT 4 MEMBER, ALEX
PEDERSEN, PLEASE LEARN MORE
FROM FOLKS ABOUT THE NAVIGATION
TEAM THAT YOU SO LOVE TO
SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
TRUSTED AND THEY ARE NOT
REACHING OUT AND GIVING THE
SUPPORT THAT YOU THINK THEY
ARE.
THEY ARE OFTEN LEADING TO
POLICE SWEEPS.
BY DISCLOSING WHERE CAMPS ARE
AND THEY ARE NOT TRUSTED.
PLEASE LEARN MORE FROM PEOPLE
WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THESE
ENCAMPMENTS.
I'M DOING A LOT OF NEUTRAL AID
WITH GROUPS. PLEASE DEFUND
SPD PREPONDERANCE I'VE MARCHED
WITH THE MORNING MARCH.
WE'RE SEEING THE BRUTALITY OF
SPD THAT MIRRORS THE BRUTALITY.
I REALLY AM HOPING THAT SEATTLE
WILL STAY STRONG.
THAT ALL OF YOU WILL STAY
STRONG AND BOLD SO WE CAN BE AN
EXAMPLE TO THE COUNTRY.
PLEASE DO NOT LET JENNY DURKAN
TAKE MONEY FROM THE JUMP START
TAX AND PUT IT INTO THE MONEY
SHE'S PROMISING.
THAT MONEY NEEDS TO COME FROM
SPD.
NOT OTHER MONEY YOU HAD PLANNED
TO PUT INTO USEFUL PROGRAMS FOR
YOUTH, EDUCATION, HOUSING, FOOD
SECURITY, ALL THESE OTHER
IMPORTANT NEEDS THAT THIS MONEY
FOR THE HUNDRED MILLION THAT
SHE'S SAYING THAT SHE'S
PROMISING TO BIPOC COMMUNITIES
HERE NEEDS TO COME FROM SPD.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> JESSIE, GOOD MORNING.
I WANT TO NOTE AGAIN FOR QUAN
AND KELLY, WE DO NOT SEE YOU
LISTED AS PRESENT SO PLEASE DO
DIAL BACK IN TO THE NUMBER THAT
WAS OFFERED FOR THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY LINE.
JESSIE, I SEE YOU.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M A DISTRICT 2 VOTER.
FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS
AND SUPPORTING OUR WILL TO
START THE PROCESS OF DEFUNDING
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WAS A BIG
STEP FOR A LOT OF FOLKS ON THE
COUNCIL AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR THAT.
BUT THE WORK IS A LOT BIGGER.
WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE
PROPOSED BUDGET IS AUSTERITY
FOR BIPOC AND WORKING
COMMUNITIES AND A BLANK CHECK
FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT
HAS KILLED AND VIOLENTLY
OPPRESSED THE PEOPLE OF THIS
CITY WITH IMPUNITY.
AS WE CAN SEE OPA IS WORTHLESS.
THERE'S NO JUSTICE THERE AND
THERE'S NO REFORM THERE EVEN.
WE WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU
TO LISTEN TO THE DEMANDS OF
PEOPLE AND TAKE AN ENORMOUS
CHUNK FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND PUT IT INTO
ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY THAT
ACTUALLY KEEPS US SAFE BECAUSE
THERE'S MASSIVE NEED IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY STARVING
IN OUR STREETS AND ALL WE'RE
DOING IS BUYING BULLETS.
IT'S GROTESQUE.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT MY
EXPERIENCES ARE VERY LIMITED
AND THE POLICE ARE, HAVE ABUSED
SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T
EVEN KNOW ABOUT, I WAS
PERSONALLY VICIOUSLY BEATEN AND
ARRESTED FOR NO REASON, CHARGES
WEREN'T EVER BROUGHT AGAINST ME
AND LITERALLY JUST FOR STANDING
ADJACENT TO PROTESTS.
I HAD A RIB BROKEN AND THERE'S
NO JUSTICE FOR ME.
OPA IS COMPLETELY UNHELPFUL.
I CAN'T EVEN GET BODY CAMERA
FOOTAGE FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS,
I BELIEVE.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE NEED
TO KEEP POURING MONEY, ANY
AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THIS
VIOLENT OPPRESSION MACHINE.
SO AGAIN, DEFUND SPD, AT LEAST
50%.
I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO
80 AND PUT THAT MONEY DIRECTLY
INTO BLACK COMMUNITIES, BROWN
COMMUNITIES AND INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES IN SEATTLE.
TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO
NEED IT.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
FOR TELLING US ABOUT THAT
EXPERIENCE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
CALLING IN.
OKAY.
THE LAST TWO PEOPLE THAT I SEE
ARE STILL LISTED AS NOT PRESENT
SO I'M GOING TO DO ONE MORE
CALL AND DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR
FOLKS FROM THE I.T.
TEAM.
APPEARS THEY ARE NOT PRESENT.
SO WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO MAKE
PUBLIC TESTIMONY AVAILABLE
AGAIN EVERY MORNING SESSION FOR
30 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING.
APOLOGIES TO FOLKS WHO ARE
LISTED AND NOT PRESENT IF THERE
WAS ANY CONFUSION ON OUR END,
PLEASE DO REACH OUT TO MY
OFFICE AND WE'LL BE SURE TO
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
TERESA.MOSQUEDA@SEATTLE.GOV.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE
LISTED FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY SESSION IS
CLOSED FOR THIS MORNING.
LET'S MOVE INTO OTHER ITEMS ON
OUR AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1. SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE DO HAVE WITH US INTERIM
CHIEF ADRIAN DIAZ AND ANGELA
SOCHI FROM SPD.
WE HAVE DIRECTOR BEN NOVEL WHO
HAS OFFERED HIS ENTIRE WEEK TO
US.
THANK YOU FOR BEING BACK.
APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME IT
HAS TAKEN TO COORDINATE THE
MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS.
THANKS TO THE FOLKS AT CBO FOR
ALL YOUR WORK.
CHIEF DIAZ, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE
YOU WITH US.
THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRST
TIMES WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO
HEAR FROM YOU DIRECTLY AT THE
TABLE IN THIS ROLE THAT YOU
HAVE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL
A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE PAST.
I'VE APPRECIATED THE CANDOR IN
WHICH YOU'VE COME TO THE TABLE.
AGAIN YOUR COMMENTS MADE UPON
YOUR CHIEF APPOINTMENT DAY.
THOSE ARE IMPORTANT STATEMENTS
YOU MADE.
A HELPFUL CONVERSATION WE ARE
HEARING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND FOR
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ALWAYS BE
AT THE TABLE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO TAKING YOU
UP ON THAT OFFER.
WE DO HAVE ALL MORNING
DEDICATED TO THIS AND I HAVE
SOME OPENING COMMENTS AND THEN
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD FOR
COMMENTS AND THEN TO WELCOME
CHIEF DIAZ AND THE TEAM.
COLLEAGUS, AS WE ENTER INTO
THE BUDGET SEASON WE KNOW EVERY
BUDGET SEASON IS A CHANCE FOR
US TO REALLY FOCUS ON ONE OR
TWO FOCAL POINTS AND THIS YEAR
THE OBVIOUS FOCAL POINT IS
AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY.
THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE BIG
CHANGES.
THERE'S BIG NEEDS IN OUR
COMMUNITY THAT HAVE GONE UNMET
FOR YEARS AND THIS REQUIRES BIG
THINKING THROUGH A
COLLABORATIVE LENS TO TRY TO
MOVE FORWARD LARGE CHANGES THAT
ARE NOT COMFORTABLE TO MANY.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN
CALLED UPON TO DO AS ELECTED
LEADERS TO MAKE DECISIONS IN
OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE
SOMETIMES UNCOMFORTABLE AND
FRANKLY WHEN WE STOOD UP AND
HAVE RUN FOR OFFICE MANY OF US
SAID WE'RE GOING INTO OFFICE TO
SHAKE UP THE STATUS QUO.
I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD SO FAR
AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF US
CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK ABOUT
THE NEED FOR THERE TO BE MORE
ROBUST CONVERSATIONS BUT THERE
ALSO TO BE MORE CHANGE AS WE'VE
HEARD FROM FOLKS WHO TESTIFIED
THIS MORNING AND OVER THE
SUMMER.
I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS
WE HAVE ARE HOW DO WE KEEP
RESIDENTS SAFE.
ALL RESIDENTS.
THAT INCLUDES FOLKS IN OUR CITY
WHO HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT
OUR VERY OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE
EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY FEELS
SAFE AND THAT 911 IS THE NUMBER
TO CALL.
AND WHEN SOMEBODY SHOWS UP THEY
TRULY HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY IN
MIND FOR THOSE WHO ARE BOTH
BEING, MAKING THE CALL AND
THOSE WHO ARE RECEIVING THE
SERVICES.
YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE HEAR
MORE STORIES FROM ACROSS THE
COUNTRY SEATTLE'S NOT IN A
UNIQUE POSITION.
IF ANYBODY WAS UP LISTENING TO
NPR LAST NIGHT AT 9:00 P.M.
THERE WAS AN ENTIRE HOUR
DEDICATED TO THE CHANGES THAT
ARE BEING CALLED UPON ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO
LISTEN TO THAT, I'LL POST SOME
OF THOSE STORIES LATER TODAY.
NPR WAS DOING REALLY GREAT
REPORTING ON EVERYTHING FROM
CAMDEN, NEW JERSEY TO WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
QUESTIONS PEOPLE ARE ASKING IS
WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE BLOCKING
YOUR DRIVEWAY, WHY IS IT THAT
WEAR TOLD TO CALL 911.
WHEN YOU HAVE A MEMBERRAL
HEALTH BREAKDOWN, THE ANSWER
SHOULDN'T BE TO CALL 911.
I THINK OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES
HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB AT
ARTICULATING.
MANY OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME THEY
DON'T WANT TO BE THE SOCIAL
WORKER OR THE MENTAL HEALTH
COUNSELOR.
MANY OF THEM ARE ASKING WHY
THEY'RE BEING, WHY THEY ARE THE
ANSWER TO OUR BROKEN SAFETY
NET.
WE NEED TO RETHINK WHAT IT
MEANS TO INVEST IN A SAFETY NET
AND CREATE THE STABILITY MANY
OF YOU FOLK ABOUT YESTERDAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION TODAY.
I THINK IT IS OUR OPPORTUNITY
TO TAKE SOME BIG STEPS, TO
GATHER THE BIG THINKING WE
BEGAN THIS SUMMER.
TO EXAMINE THE RIGHT PLACE FOR
SERVICES FOR OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND IT'S IMPORTANT
FOR US TO REALLY CONTINUE TO
HEAR THE CALL FROM FOLKS WHO
ARE TAKING TO THE STREET.
THE GLOBAL WE'VE OF PROTESTS
ARE HAPPENING.
ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE GLOBE.
SPECIFICALLY FROM OUR BLACK
RESIDENTS WHO ARE CALLING FOR
BLACK LIVES TO MATTER NOT JUST
IN MURALS ON THE STREET BUT IN
POLICY AND PRACTICE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD WHO HAS BEEN A
STEWARD OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE.
I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU
IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME.
THESE ARE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS
AND AGAIN, THANKS TO THE FOLKS
AT SPD, ESPECIALLY CHIEF DIAZ
FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME TO
THE TABLE AND TO SHARE WITH US
THE 2021 PROPOSED BUDGETS AND
ALLOW FOR US TO ASK SOME
QUESTIONS ABOUT VISIONING AND
WORKING WITH YOU TO GET TO THE
REDUCTIONS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR
OUR COMMUNITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, THANK
YOU FOR TAKING OVER AND FOR
INTRODUCING CHIEF DIAZ.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WANT TO JUST START OFF BY
AGAIN THANKING CHIEF DIAZ BOTH
FOR BEING WITH US HERE TODAY
AND ALSO FOR JOINING ME IN MY
DISTRICT 1 TOWN HALL LAST
NIGHT.
I DON'T WANT TO STEAL HIS
THUNDER BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT THE SPD BUDGET PRINCIPLES
ARE FRAMED IN THE PRINCIPLES
THAT HE HAS AUTHORED.
AND HAS TAKEN TO HEART AND
WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THEM IN A
MOMENT.
AS WE KNOW ACROSS THE NATION
GROWING THE SIZE OF OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENTS HAS HISTORICALLY
BEEN SORT OF A THIRD RAIL
POLITICS.
WE NEVER QUESTION WHETHER
ADDING AND GROWING THE SIZE OF
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY
INCREASES SAFETY BECAUSE WE IN
GOVERNMENT ASSUME IT DOES.
SPD'S BUDGET HAS INCREASED
EVERY YEAR SINCE 2000, EVEN
DURING THE GRAND RECESSION WHEN
OVERALL THE CITY BUDGET WENT
DOWN.
IN THE FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN IN
OFFICE THE SPD BUDGET HAS
INCREASED DRAMATICALLY FROM 299
MILLION IN 2016 TO THE ADOPTED
BUDGET OF $409 MILLION IN 2020.
THAT'S AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN
$110 MILLION IN FOUR YEARS.
I'VE SUPPORTED THESE BUDGET
INCREASES, BUT WE'RE HEARING
FROM MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND
IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
NATION THAT A LARGER DEPARTMENT
DOES NOT NECESSARILY EQUAL MORE
PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THAT WE MUST INCORPORATE
OTHER APPROACHES.
APPROACHES THAT ARE BEING
PRACTICED IN OTHER CITIES.
SOMETIMES THEY CAN LEAD TO
BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES.
MORE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE
TABLE BEFORE HAVE MADE ME RE-
EXAMINE MY OWN ASSUMPTIONS AND
MY SUPPORT OF OLD WAYS OF DOING
THINGS AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL
FOR THAT.
I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FUNDING
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT SHOULD BE NOT ONLY THE
POLICE.
TOO OFTEN WE ASK THE POLICE TO
DO TOO MUCH AND THEY ARE ILL
EQUIPPED TO HANDLE MANY OF THE
ISSUES THAT WE ASK THEM TO
ADDRESS.
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET?
MANY OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO
BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF IN AN
ATMOSPHERE OF LIMITED RESOURCES
MEANS WE HAVE TO REINVEST OUR
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY
INVESTMENTS.
A REVIEW OF 911 CALLS BEGAN THE
PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING WHAT
WORK CURRENTLY DONE BY POLICE
MIGHT BE BEST DONE BY OTHER
TYPES OF PROFESSIONALS.
IN 2019, 56% OF DISPATCHED
CALLS WERE NONCRIMINAL.
IT'S PAST TIME WE WORK TO
RESOLVE THESE PROBLEMS UP
STREAM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO
INVEST SO HEAVILY IN A POLICE
FORCE THAT'S UNABLE TO ADDRESS
ALL THE ISSUES WE'VE ASKED THEM
TO USE POLICING TO ADDRESS.
JUST WANT TO HIGH LIGHT THE
PLAN AS IDENTIFIED IN THE
COUNCIL RESOLUTION WE PASSED
THIS SUMMER.
WE PROPOSED THAT WE WORK TO
FUND AN EFFORT TO ADVISE ON THE
CREATION OF A NEW CIVILIAN LED
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SAFETY
AND VIOLATION PREVENTION.
AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY-
LED RESEARCH AND PARTICIPATORY
BUDGETING EFFORT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.
REALLY APPRECIATE MY
COLLEAGUE'S THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT
PROCESS AND THE NEED TO PULL
OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN IT
ADVISING US RATHER THAN
CREATING TWO SEPARATE
PROCESSES.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CREATION
OF A NEW CIVILIAN LED
DEPARTMENT I THINK THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET HAS A NEW
DEPARTMENT.
MIGHT BE CALLED SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR
INTEREST IN CREATING A NEW
DEPARTMENT WHERE WE WOULD
TRANSFER SOME DEPARTMENTS OUT
OF SPD.
OUR RESOLUTION IDENTIFIED AS
DEPARTMENTS TO TRANSFER OUT OF
SPD.
911, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT AND PARKING
ENFORCEMENT.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET HAS
A NEW DEPARTMENT CONSISTENT
WITH THIS PLAN AND TRANSFERS
THESE FUNCTIONS.
WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THE CHIEF
PURSUE SOME OUT OF ORDER
LAYOFFS.
PRIORITIZING OFFICERS FOR
LAYOFF WITH THE MOST SUSTAINED
COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM WHILE
MAINTAINING ADEQUATE PATROL
STAFFING IN EACH DISTRICT.
APPRECIATE RECEIVING THE LETTER
FROM THE DEPUTY AROUND THAT
PROCESS.
OTHER PARTS OF OUR PLAN INCLUDE
WORK TO REPRIORITIZE 911 CALLS
FOR RESPONSE AND DISCONTINUING
BIAS POLICING PRACTICES THAT
HAVE HARMED BIPOC COMMUNITIES
AND ESTABLISHING A PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE REGISTRY FOR POLICE
MISCONDUCT.
INCLUDING WHETHER A COMPLAINT
USED USE OF FORCE OR RACIAL
PROFILING.
WE CLARIFY THE DAYS OF THE
COUNCIL RETO ACTIVELY APPROVING
OVERSPENT BUDGETS AND OVERTIME
ARE OVER.
WE IDENTIFIED OUR DESIRE AND
NEED TO COLLABORATE IN
REALIZING WHAT I THINK IS
MOSTLY DESPITE A LOT OF THE
BACK AND FORTH MOSTLY A SHARED
VISION.
IT'S HOW WE BEGIN TO SHIFT THE
CONVERSATION IN OUR LENS AWAY
FROM POLICE BEING THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO RESPOND TO
ALL OF THESE ISSUES.
WANT TO ALSO FLAG WE TALKED
YESTERDAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT
OUR BUDGET ACTION OF THE SUMMER
REQUESTED A REPORT BACK FROM
SPD BY SEPTEMBER 30th TO
IDENTIFY WHICH ADDITIONAL
FUNCTIONS OF SPD COULD BE FULLY
CIVILIANIZED.
WE LEARNED FROM DIRECTOR NOBLE
YESTERDAY THAT WE WERE UNLIKELY
TO RECEIVE THAT IN TIME FOR THE
BEGINNING OF OUR BUDGET
DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TO TRY
TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
QUESTIONS DURING BUDGET.
APPRECIATE THAT WE JUST THIS
MORNING RECEIVED AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER FROM IT THE MAYOR.
HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW
IT FULLY.
BUT REALLY WANT TO LOOK TO SEE
HOW THIS PROCESS IMPACTS OUR
INTERESTS IN MOVING ON MORE
REALIGNMENT OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET DURING THIS
BUDGET PROCESS.
I DO NOT WANT TO DELAY CHANGE
EVEN FURTHER.
AND I WANT TO REALLY BEST TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF NOT ONLY OUR
EXPERTS WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT
BUT OUR EXPERTS OUTSIDE OF CITY
GOVERNMENT.
AND SO WITH THAT, LOOK FORWARD
TO HEARING MORE FROM THE CHIEF
ABOUT THE PROPOSED 2021 BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
CHIEF DIAZ.
THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR
BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
I ALSO HEARD A CAT THAT WAS
ALSO IN THE BACKGROUND SO GLAD
TO HAVE THE CAT LISTEN TO ME AS
WELL.
BUT THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU ON THE
MAYOR AND MY VISION FOR THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN
2021.
WE DELIVER THIS PRESENTATION
KNOWING THAT LATER TODAY DURING
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
PRESENTATION MUCH MORE DETAIL
WILL BE PROVIDED ABOUT THE WORK
TO BE DONE ON REIMAGINING
PUBLIC SAFETY.
RIGHT NOW WE SPECIFICALLY WILL
BE ADDRESSING THE ON GOING WORK
OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE I'VE
TASKED MY COMMAND STAFF AND
ENTIRE DEPARTMENT WITH FIVE
AREAS OF WORK TO FOCUS ON.
RIGHT NOW AND THROUGHOUT 2021.
REENVISIONING APPLICATION
POLICING.
I'VE COMMITTED SPD TO ENGAGE IN
THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING THE
RLE OF DEPARTMENT SHOULD PLAY
IN COMMUNITY SAFETY.
SECOND.
HHUMANIZATION.
THIRD, REINVENTING COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
IN THE MIDST OF COVID IT HAS
CHANGED OUR WORLD.
I EXPECT THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK
AND MONTHS WE WILL BEGIN THE
HARD WORK OF ENSURING THE
DEPARTMENT IS DEVOTED TO
ESTABLISHING TRUE AND LASTING
RELATIONSHIPS THROUGHOUT
RESPECTFUL INTERACTIONS.
FOUR, FISCAL STEWARDSHIP.
SPD WILL EXAMINE EVERY
EXPENDITURE TO GUARANTEE ITS
MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTIONS TO
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
NUMBER FIVE, EMPLOYEE WELLNESS
AND MORALE.
IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THE
DEPARTMENT RETAINS THE BEST
EMPLOYEES.
WITHOUT THEM WE CANNOT PROVIDE
EXCEPTIONAL POLICE SERVICES.
IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF THAT IF
THE DEPARTMENT FULLY EMBRACES
THIS WORK, WE WILL SUCCEED IN
RESTORING THE TRUST THAT'S BEEN
DIMINISHED WITH SOME OF OUR
COMMUNITY.
THIS MORNING THE TEAM WILL
OUTLINE THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
BUDGET ACTIONS FOR 2021.
THESE ACTIONS HIGHLIGHT THE
FOCUS AREAS OF SPD AND CHART
THE INITIAL PATH FOR THE WORK
WE ALL ARE ABOUT TO UNDERTAKE.
BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO
SPECIFICS, I WANT TO PROVIDE
YOU WITH A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF
WHERE WE STAND AND WHERE I WANT
SPD TO GO IN 2021.
YESTERDAY MARKED THE FIRST FULL
DAY OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
MOVING BACK INTO THE PATROL
BUREAU.
SPECIFICALLY TO 911 RESPONSE.
AS I'VE OUTLINED, A SPECIFIC
PART OF MY PLAN TO ENSURE WE
CAN SUPPORT COMMUNITY SAFETY
FOR EVERYONE IN THE MIDST OF AN
ECONOMIC CRISIS IS TO FOCUS ON
OUR CORE MISSION.
RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR HELP
AND PREVENTING CRIME.
EACH YEAR APPROXIMATELY 800,000
CALLS COME IN TO SEATTLE 911
CENTER.
SPD OFFICERS ARE DISPATCHED TO
SOME 270,000 UNIQUE EVENTS AND
THEY SEE AND ENGAGE IN SOME
173,000 MORE DURING WHAT WE
CALL ON USE.
THAT IS OVER 440,000 INCIDENTS
WHERE SPD ENGAGES THE PUBLIC.
ALMOST ALL OF THIS INITIAL WORK
IS DONE BY THE OFFICERS IN
PATROL.
BEFORE I INITIATED THIS
REASSIGNMENT OF PATROL
OFFICERS, PATROL HAD THE SAME
NUMBER OF OFFICERS RESPONDING
THAT IT HAD 8 YEARS AGO.
TODAY WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER
OF OFFICERS RESPONDING TO 911
CALLS.
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
SPECIAL NEEDS POP UP.
NEW TYPES OF CRIME.
NEW COMMUNITY NEEDS.
NEW BEST PRACTICES.
AND SINCE PATROL IS WHERE MOST
OFFICERS ARE ALWAYS ARE, THOSE
NEW POSITIONS WERE GENERALLY
FILLED BY PULLING FROM PATROL.
TODAY THE DEPARTMENT ONLY HAS
ABOUT 25 MORE OFFICERS THAN IT
HAD IN 2010.
IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT SINCE
THE INCEPTION OF THE CONSENT
DECREE WE'VE CREATED 58 SWORN
POSITIONS TO SUPPORT THAT WORK.
ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL CIVILIAN
POSITIONS.
FUNCTIONALLY WHILE THE
POSITIONS ARE ESSENTIAL, ON THE
STREET IT MEANS WE'RE THE SAME
SIZE WE WERE EIGHT YEAR AGO.
WITH INCREASES OF EMPLOYEES ON
LEAVE, WE HAVE 35 FEWER
OFFICERS IN SERVICE TODAY THAN
WE DID IN 2010.
I DO NOT THINK IT'S OKAY.
I DO NOT THINK THE CITIES
SHOULD USE A PER CAPITA
ANALYSIS TO DECIDE HOW MANY
OFFICERS THEY NEED ON THE
STREET BECAUSE EVERY CITY IS
DIFFERENT AND GEOGRAPHY AND
CRIME AND THE STYLE OF POLICING
BUT IT IS A METRIC THAT LETS
YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT
BALLPARK.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA
REPORT TO THE FBI AND SEE THAT
WE RANK 22ND OUT OF THE 25
LARGEST CITIES IN THE RATIO OF
OFFICERS TO POPULATION, IT ONLY
CONFIRMS WHAT I HEAR FROM
OFFICERS IN PATROL.
THEY'RE STRETCHED THIN.
THEY'RE RACING FROM CALL TO
CALL.
THEY HAVE, THEY'RE HAVING TO
WORK EXTRA SHIFTS TO ENSURE
THEIR COLLEAGUES ARE SAFE.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO
ADDRESS PERSISTENT ISSUES AND
GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS
THEY'RE SERVING.
LAST YEAR OFFICERS AND
DETECTIVES TOOK OVER 1,200 GUNS
OFF THE STREET.
THIS YEAR THROUGH AUGUST
THEY'VE TAKEN ANOTHER 717 GUNS
OFF THE STREET.
RECOVERED OVER 2000 SHELL THEY
CASINGS.
SO FAR PATROL OFFICERS HAVE
RESPONDED TO 37 HOMICIDE CRIME
SCENES INVOLVING 40 VICTIMS.
THEY'VE GONE TO OVER 315 SHOTS
FIRE INSTANCES.
197 SEXUAL ASSAULT AND RAPE
CASES.
OVER 1000 ROBBERIES.
OVER 2000 AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.
AND WITH A RECENT HUGE UPTICK
THEY'VE GONE TO OVER 120 ARSON
INCIDENTS.
IN K TO THESE CRIMES OFFICERS
HAVE HELPED OVER 20,000 VICTIMS
OF MAJOR CRIME.
ABOUT 10,000 OF WHICH ARE
WOMEN.
AFTER HEARING CHIEFS DURING
ALMOST MY ENTIRE CAREER SAY
THAT PATROL WAS A BACKBONE OF
THE DEPARTMENT I DECIDED TO
BACK THOSE WORDS UP WITH
ACTION.
NOT BECAUSE IT SOUNDED GOOD,
BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
WHEN YOU EXAMINE FIVE YEARS OF
SURVEY WORK BY SEATTLE
UNIVERSITY AND OVER 14 YEARS OF
DIRECT SURVEY FOLLOWING UP WITH
THOSE CALLERS WHO HAD OFFICERS
DISPATCHED TO THEM YOU SEE A
CLEAR MESSAGE.
WHEN THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY
CALL 911 FOR HELP THEY WANT AN
OFFICER TO RESPOND QUICKLY.
AND WHEN THEY DO THEY'RE HAPPY
WITH THE RESPONSE THEY GET FROM
THAT OFFICER.
IF THE AMAZING OFFICERS OF THE
SPD CAN ACHIEVE THAT SORT OF
CUSTOMER SERVICE WHEN THEY'RE
STRETCHED THIN I WANT TO SEE
WHAT THE TYPE OF TOPNOTCH
PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES WITH E
CAN DELIVER WHEN THEY HAVE THE
TIME TO ADDRESS THE REAL
ISSUES.
SOME HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
IT MEANS TO NOT HAVE THE FORMAL
COMMUNITY POLICING TEAM OR TO
HAVE FEWER DETECTIVES IN
CERTAIN UNITS.
THIS GOES BACK TO THE SAME
ISSUE.
WE'VE HAD AN OVER
SPECIALIZATION FOR TOO LONG WE
FOLLOWED THE MODEL OF CREATING
A SPECIALIZED UNIT TO ADDRESS
EVERY NEW ISSUE OR NEED AGAIN
AND CREATING A MODEL WHERE OUR
911 RESPONDERS WERE ONLY THAT
THE OFFICERS, WERE ONLY THAT.
OFFICERS WHO COULD ANSWER CALLS
AND MOVE ON.
IT IS MY VISION THAT PUSHING
EVERYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT TO
MORE OF A GENERALIST MODEL WE
WILL BE BETTER TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF EACH AND EVERY
INCIDENT.
THE CBT OFFICERS WILL BE ON
PATROL.
THEY'LL SHOW THE OTHER OFFICERS
WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED AND HOW
THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO MORE
PROBLEM SOLVING.
THEY'LL SHOW FROM OUR
DETECTIVES GOING BACK INTO
PATROL.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE
BETTER SKILLS TO MEET THE
DEMANDS OR THE NEEDS FOR
PROSECUTION.
AS WE DO WITH EVERYTHING, WE
WILL MONITOR HOW THIS, HOW THIS
NEW APPROACH WORKS.
WE WILL WATCH CASE LOADS.
WE WILL WATCH RESPONSE TIMES.
WE WILL WATCH CLEARANCE RATES.
I HOPE THIS MOVE ALONE MAKES IT
CLEAR I'M PREPARED TO MAKE
CHANGES AND WHEN THE NEED IS
CLEAR THERE IS A PLAN FOR WHAT
TO DO NEXT.
WE WILL COMMIT TO EVALUATE HOW
THAT WORKS.
WITH THE NEW CHALLENGES WE ARE
FACING ECONOMIC SHORT FALLS,
STAFFING CONSTRAINTS, INCREASES
IN SHOTS FIRED AND HOMICIDES WE
NEED MORE OFFICERS ON THE
STREET.
WE NEED MORE OFFICERS
INVESTIGATING THESE INCIDENTS.
I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A
DIFFERENT TIME BUT IT WAS THIS
JANUARY WE HAD A MASS SHOOTING
AT 3rd AND PINE.
ALMOST EVERYONE IN THE CITY
WANTED MORE POLICE IN THAT
CHALLENGING AREA.
WE DID.
WE INCREASED OFFICERS PRESENCE
AT A COST OF ABOUT $418,000.
RIGHT UP UNTIL THINGS SHUT DOWN
UNDER THE PANDEMIC.
I SAY THAT THIS ILLUSTRATES
THAT THE CALLS WILL COME FROM
ACROSS THE CITY TO SEE MORE
OFFICERS IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
THEY COME EVERY YEAR.
EXTREME INCIDENCES LIKE THE
3rd AND PINE SHOOTING AND MORE
MONEY DATE.
WE'RE ASKED TO PUT OFFICERS OUT
ON ALKI TO ADDRESS RACING AND
PARTYING.
WE'RE ASKED TO HAVE MORE
OFFICERS TO ADDRESS DRUG
DEALING AND GENERAL DISORDER.
ALMOST EVERY YEAR WE'RE ASKED
TO DO MORE ALONG RAINIER AND
OTHER AREAS AS THEY EXPERIENCE
AN UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF GUN
VIOLENCE.
IN RECENT YEARS WE'VE BEEN
ASKED TO PUT MORE OFFICERS OUT
AT PIONEER SQUARE TO ADDRESS
GROWING ENCAMPMENTS, DRUG
DEALING AND CONSISTENT
HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT OF
EMPLOYEES GOING TO AND FROM
WORK BY PEOPLE IN CRISIS.
JUST LAST WEEK WE WERE ASKED TO
DO MORE IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT
AS RESIDENTS CONFRONTED AN
INTOLERABLE INCREASE IN IT GUN
VIOLENCE.
I SAY JUST LAST YEAR.
ALMOST EVERY YEAR WE ARE ASKED
TO DO MORE ALONG AURORA AVENUE
NORTH ADDS VIOLENCE EBBS AND
FLOWS AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN
ARE TRAFFICKED AND VICTIMIZED.
I WANT TO ALWAYS BE ABLE TO
RESPOND TO THESE CALLS FOR
HELP.
I WANT THE DEPARTMENT TO BE
ABLE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION
AND TO THE UNDERLYING ISSUES
THAT DRIVE THE CRIME AND
DISORDER.
BUT RESPONDING TO THESE CALLS
TO THOSE ISSUES MEANS THAT I
HAVE TO HAVE OFFICERS NECESSARY
TO HANDLE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE
AND TO HAVE THAT TIME TO DO THE
PROBLEM SOLVING AND COMMUNITY
BUILDING WORK.
I FULLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSALS
IN THE PRESENTATION WE'RE ABOUT
TO GO THROUGH.
THERE DOES NEED TO BE A
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
THERE ARE CENTURIES OF RACISM
AND INJUSTICE ACROSS OUR
SOCIETY THAT MUST BE REPAIRED.
THERE ARE SEVERAL MAJOR
FUNCTIONS THAT CAN EXIST
OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
ADDITIONALLY, AS OUTLINED IN
THE EXECUTIVE ORDER I DO
BELIEVE THE CRITICAL ANALYSIS
OF THE CALLS WE CAN RESPOND TO,
THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME
SPECIFIC INCIDENCES THAT CAN BE
SAFELY ADDRESSED BY OTHER
ALTERNATIVES WHEN THEY'RE
DEVELOPED.
I ALSO HAVE TO BE CLEAR I DO
NOT HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS RIGHT
NOW TO HANDLE THE WORK WE'RE
ASKED TO DO.
THE CALL ANALYSIS WILL IDENTIFY
SOME OF THE WORK THAT CAN BE
SHIFTED.
THE ALTERNATIVE RESOURCES TO
HANDLE THOSE CALLS WILL NOT BE
THERE JANUARY 1, 2021 AND THEY
WON'T BE THERE DECEMBER 31,
2021.
WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THE
DIFFERENCE.
THIS BUDGET RECOGNIZES I CAN
PUSH THE DEPARTMENT TO DO MORE
WITH LESS, THAT WE CAN RELEASE
THE POSITIONS NEXT YEAR THAT
ARE HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO BE
FILLED.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL THE
OFFICERS, THERE'S WORK FOR ALL
OF THEM TO DO.
THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT THEY
COULD HELP SOLVE.
WHILE I LOVE TO HAVE THEM, WHAT
I HAVE TO HAVE IS THE ABILITY
TO HIRE TO STAY AS CLOSE TO
1400 AS POSSIBLE.
EACH DROP BELOW THAT WILL MEAN
EITHER SLOWER RESPONSE TIMES,
LARGER CASE LOADS OR TYPES OF
CRIMES WE CAN NO LONGER RESPOND
TO.
THESE ISSUES WILL SNOWBALL IF
THE HIRE FREEZE INITIATED IN IT
RESPONSE TO COVID-19 DRIVEN BY
ECONOMIC CONTINUES INTO 2021.
IT WOULD TAKE US YEARS TO BRING
US BACK UP TO CURRENT LEVELS
WHERE WE'RE STRETCHED TO HANDLE
OUR CORE MISSION.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
DIRECTIVE DIRECTOR ANGELA
SOCCI.
>> CHIEF DIAZ.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ANGELA, I'M SORRY.
I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF
THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN
OPENING COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE
PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
I'M GOING TO TAKE A PAUSE TO
SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO START HERE.
WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IS
YOU NEEDED TO HAVE 1400
OFFICERS AND THERE'S NOT THE
ABILITY TO HAVE LESS OR THERE'S
NOT A WILLINGNESS TO ENTERTAIN
THE CONCEPT OF HAVING LESS THAN
1400.
I THINK THAT DOES NOT JIBE WITH
THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD
ABOUT HOW WE CAN REDUCE THE
TYPE OF WORK THAT OFFICERS ARE
CURRENTLY BEING ASKED TO
RESPOND TO.
YOU MENTION THAT YOU HAVE A
CONCERN THAT THERE'S NOT GOING
TO BE ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE
TO RESPOND TO THE CALLS.
THE PREMISE OF THE EARLIER
COMMENTS MADE AND THIS SUMMER'S
CONVERSATION IS TRYING TO
REDUCE THE TYPE OF CALLS THAT
SWORN OFFICERS, THOSE WITH GUNS
ARE NEEDING TO RESPOND TO.
SO IF IT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY
TRANSFERRING THOSE CALLS THAT
SHOULD BE GOING TO MENTAL
HEALTH PROVIDERS, CASE
MANAGERS, FOLKS WHO ARE
RESPONDING TO SITUATIONS WHERE
YOU DON'T NEED A GUN, IT WOULD
INHERENTLY MEAN THAT THE SIZE
OF THE FORCE WOULD NOT
NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE
SAME.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
ARE HAVING MINOR FENDER BENDERS
HAVE TO HAVE SPD CALLED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SWORN
OFFICERS WITH GUNS ON THEM
DIRECTING TRAFFIC.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
ARE SHOWING UP WHEN AS I
MENTIONED SOMEBODY IS BLOCKING
THEIR DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF CALLS
THAT WE WOULD WANT OUR OFFICERS
TO HAVE TO RESPOND TO AND SO
FOR EFFECTIVELY HAVING A
CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSFERRING
THOSE TYPE OF CALLS INTO
ANOTHER AREA IS THERE NOT A
WILLINGNESS TO RECOGNIZE THAT
THE TYPE OF SWORN OFFICERS WITH
GUNS THAT NUMBER COULD
INHERENTLY GO DOWN?
>> AND I THINK ONCE WE ACTUALLY
PRESENT HOW THAT GETS ANALYZED
IN THIS PART OF A DEEPER
FUNCTIONAL ANALYSIS THAT WE
ALSO HAVE TO DO OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL MONTHS TO UNDERSTAND
THE WORKLOAD AND CAPACITY AND
PATROL IS VERY EASY.
CHRIS FISHER WILL BE ABLE TO
ARTICULATE THIS LATER IN THE
PRESENTATION.
ABOUT CERTAIN LEVELS OF
STAFFING.
I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT MOVING
AND SHIFTING SOME OF THOSE
CALLS FOR SERVICE AS I KIND OF
HIGHLIGHTED AT THE VERY
BEGINNING WE ARE ALREADY, WE
WERE ALREADY SHORT STAFFED AS A
POLICE AGENCY FOR MANY YEARS,
ALREADY SEEING NUMBERS UNDER
OUR 2010 STAFFING LEVELS.
THAT'S 10 YEARS AGO WITH THE
CITY HAS CONSIDERABLY GROWN.
WE CAN REMOVE THOSE CERTAIN
CALLS FOR SERVICE AS WE KIND OF
GET INTO THOSE INVESTMENTS INTO
OUR BIPOC COMMUNITIES OR EVEN
INTO MENTAL HEALTH OR
HOMELESSNESS AND THOSE CAN
STILL GO, THOSE CAN STILL TAKE
INTO EFFECT.
I ALSO KNOW BASED ON CERTAIN
CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE'RE
STILL PANELING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF OFFICERS TO BE ABLE
TO DO THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE STRUGGLING TO
DO THAT.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE IF
WE SEE A SMALLER SIZED
DEPARTMENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, JUST
WANT TO TURN TO YOU FIRST TO
SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
AS A FOLLOW UP.
SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE STILL.
>> THANK YOU.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT
CHIEF DIAZ IS SAYING.
I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE.
I'E HEARD IT MYSELF FOR YEARS
THAT OFFICERS ARE LITERALLY
GOING FROM CALL TO CALL TO CALL
AND I, I HEAR THE CHIEF SAYING
THAT HE NEEDS MORE CAPACITY SO
THAT OFFICERS AREN'T STRETCHED
SO THIN.
I APPRECIATE THAT HE IS
SHIFTING OFFICERS FROM
SPECIALTY UNITS TO PATROL IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT.
THE PART WHERE I FEEL, AND I
APPRECIATE THE CHIEF
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT ANOTHER WAY
TO ADDRESS THESE CAPACITY
ISSUES IS BY REDUCING THE TYPES
OF CALLS THAT OFFICERS, PATROL
OFFICERS RESPOND TO.
AND SUPPORTING AN
INFRASTRUCTURE TO WORK WITH
OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO ANSWER
SOME OF THOSE CALLS.
I THINK WE ARE IDENTIFYING A
SIMILAR ISSUE.
WE ARE PERHAPS EACH FOCUSING
ON, MORE ON -- AND I THINK WE
ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IN
IDENTIFYING THAT A SHARED ISSUE
WE ARE BOTH RECOGNIZING THAT
THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
ONE WAY IS TO INCREASE THE
NUMBER OF OFFICERS.
ANOTHER WAY IS TO REDUCE THE
TYPES OF CALLS THAT OFFICERS.
I HEAR CHIEF DIAZ ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS
THE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR
THE CHIEF'S ESTIMATION IN ORDER
TO BEGIN TO MAKE THAT SHIFT.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THE
MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT WANTING
TO DO THROUGH HER IDT AND THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER WE'RE HOPING TO
ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO START TO
PUT OUR ARMS AROUND IN THE NEXT
COUPLE MONTHS OF THE BUDGET
PROCESS.
THAT WAS THE THINKING BEHIND
SOME OF THE SUMMER BUDGETING
INVESTMENTS.
THE $10 MILLION IS SUPPOSED TO
BUILD CAPACITY AMONG
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THE
EXPERTISE AND ENGAGING WITH
POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT
OFTEN ARE ASSOCIATED WITH 911
CALLS THAT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT DOESN'T NEED TO
ANSWER THOSE CALLS.
THE IDEA IN THE 2020 BUDGETING
IS TO INVEST IN BUILDING THE
CAPACITY OF THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS, OF THOSE
PROFESSIONALS NOW IS THAT WE
COULD BEGIN THE SHIFT FOR 2021.
SO I'M HEARING A LOT OF
AGREEMENT ABOUT THE GOALS.
THE IDENTIFICATION AROUND THE
CHALLENGES.
WHERE I'M HEARING THE MOST
DISCONNECT IS ON TIMING AND
SCHEDULE.
I JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR
NOW.
>> IF I CAN ADD , YOU KNOW,
JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW OUR PLAN,
WE DID TALK ABOUT, I WAS GIVING
THE FLOOR OF 1400 BUT THIS IS
ABOUT 100 OFFICERS LESS THAN WE
HAD BUDGETED LAST YEAR.
IT I THINK IT WAS 1497 BUDGETED
LAST YEAR.
NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT
BEING SMALLER.
I'M LOOKING AT WHAT, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE HAVING TO RESPOND TO AND
TRYING TO DEAL WITH THOSE
RESPONSE LEVELS IN THE NEAR
FUTURE.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT LOOKING
AT A SMALLER DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN
ABLE TO ESTABLISH.
IT IS REALLY WHAT THAT SIZE IS
AND WHAT THAT FOR ME THAT
STAFFING MINIMUM LEVEL IS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU INTERIM CHIEF DIAZ
FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.
JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
THE COMMENTS YOU MADE RELATED
TO THE STAFFING MODEL AS I
THINK IT'LL BE HELPFUL AS WE
DIG INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE
PRESENTATION ANGELA IS GOING TO
BE DIGGING INTO SHORTLY.
JUST WANT TO DIG INTO SOME OF
THE ASSUMPTIONS I'M HEARING YOU
MAKE.
IN ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS YOU
SAID WE SHOULD NOT USE A PER
CAPITA STAFFING MODEL BUT THEN
YOU REFERENCED AN FBI STUDY AND
I WANT TO CONFIRM THE FBI STUDY
YOU'RE CONFIRMING WHERE YOU
INDICATED SEATTLE RANKS 22 OUT
OF 25 IS USING A PER CAPITA
STAFFING MODEL.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT.
>> REALLY QUICKLY, CAN YOU TELL
ME IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT A
PER CAPITA APPROACH SHOULD BE
USED AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR
STAFFING MINIMUM PROPOSALS,
WHAT IS THE MODEL YOU BELIEVE,
WHATTED IS MODEL THAT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY
USES IN DETERMINING THE
APPROACH TO STAFFING NEEDS.
>> I THINK WHAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY
FOCUSED ON IS REALLY DEVELOPING
THAT FUNCTIONAL ANALYSIS FOR
EVERY LEVEL OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE ALREADY KNOW CERTAIN AREAS
WHEN IT COMES TO PATROL AND I
THINK CHRIS FISHER WILL BE ABLE
TO ARTICULATE CERTAIN METRICS
OUT OF STAFFING PATROL STAFFING
AS WELL AS SHIFT STAFFING
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON A 4-
2 SCHEDULE AND OPTIMALLY WE
WOULD WANT TO, IF IT WE'RE
LOOKING AT EMPLOYEE WELLNESS WE
WOULD LOOK TO A 4-3 SHIFT.
THEN WHAT DOES THAT MINIMUM
STAFFING REQUIRE FOR PATROL.
DR. FISHER CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
IT'S TAKING AN ANALYSIS OF OUR
DEPARTMENT AND UNDERSTANDING
WHAT STAFFING LOOKS LIKE WHEN
IT COMES TO EACH AND EVERY
DETECTIVE UNIT, OUR S.W.A.T.
TEAM, OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS
GROUPS AND OUR PATROL AS WELL.
WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT INITIAL
WORK ALREADY ON THE FRONT END.
BUT THAT IS ALSO WORK THAT WE
WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH OTHER
PARTNERS AND LOOKING AT OVER
THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
>> SO WHEN YOU SAY FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT A
DETECTIVE UNIT IT'S LOOKING AT
EXACTLY CASE LOADS, CLEARANCE
RATES, HOW BIG DOES A DETECTIVE
HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN
CASE LOADS.
SO IF IT YOU LOOK AT SAY
DOMESTIC VIOLENC WHERE WE
KNOW, YOU KNOW WHO THE VICTIM
IS, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BIGGER
úCASELOAD FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW THE
PERSON THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED
THE HARM.
AND A SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE, IT
MIGHT BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE
SUSPECT IN THAT CASE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ANALYZE
EACH AND EVERY DETECTIVE
POSITION, BURGLARY IS ANOTHER
ONE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC
COLLISION INVESTIGATIONS WE'VE
SEEN MORE CALLOUTS FOR TCIS
THAN WE HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS
BECAUSE WHEN COVID HIT US WE
HAD MORE PEOPLE GOING ON THE
ROADWAYS AND SPEEDING DOWN AND,
WHICH RESULTED IN MORE
VEHICULAR DEATHS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE WOULD HAVE TO
ANALYZE EACH AND EVERY
DIFFERENT DETECTIVE UNIT
THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
>> SO WHEN YOU SAY FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS YOU'RE LITERALLY
TAKING A WIDGET PERSPECTIVE?
NUMBER OF CASES ASSIGNED PER
OFFICER, BASED ON EACH DIVISION
AND IT'S JUST AT THIS POINT
ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CASES AND
THE VOLUME OF CASES?
THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU
SAY FUNCTIONAL ANALYSIS?
>> YEAH.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT
THERE ARE ALREADY BEST
PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN
SPECIAL OPERATIONAL UNITS.
SO YOU WOULD TAKE SOME OF THOSE
METRICS AND SAY DOES SEATTLE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO
THIS MANY CALLOUTS FOR SERVICE
WHEN IT COMES TO SAY A
SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC
COLLISION INVESTIGATIONS OR
S.W.A.T.
OR, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN
METRICS THAT ARE ALREADY BEST
PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY AND ARE WE MEETING
THOSE BEST PRACTICES OR ARE WE
NOT AND DO WE NEED TO MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
>> RIGHT.
SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THE
POLICE STAFFING AND ALLOCATION
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE
BEFORE US ARE PRIMARILY BEING
FUELED AND INFORMED BY OFFICER
WORKLOAD.
>> FOR RIGHT NOW, YES, THAT IS
WHAT WE'RE. COPS OFFICE
STAFFING AND ALLOCATION.
I JUST WANT TO GO GET.
UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU ABOUT
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
THIS ARTICLE TALKS ABOUT HOW
THERE ARE DIFFERENT APPROACHES
TO DETERMINING STAFFING NEEDS
AND IT SAYS QUOTE, WE FOUND
AGENCIES TYPICALLY TAKE ONE OF
FOUR APPROACHES TO DETERMINING
STAFFING NEEDS PER CAPITA,
MINIMUM STAFFING, AUTHORIZED
LEVEL OR WORKLOAD.
IT GOES ON TO TALKING ABOUT HOW
THESE ISSUES, THESE DIFFERENT
STAFFING MODELS ARE FLAWED IN
WAYS.
AND OF COURSE LOOKS AT THE
STEPS OF THE WORKLOAD-BASED
ASSESSMENT WHICH ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY ROOTED IN
EXAMINING THE DISTRIBUTION OF
CALLS FOR SERVICE HOUR, DAY AND
MONTH.
ESTIMATING TIME CONSUMED ON
CALLS FOR SERVICE.
CALCULATING AN AGENCY'S SHIFT
RELIEF FACTOR.
ESTABLISHING PERFORMANCE
OBJECTIVES AND PROVIDE STAFFING
ESTIMATES.
THERE ARE, HOWEVER, ALTERNATIVE
DELIVERY SYSTEMS TO FIGURING
OUT HOW TO SET THESE STAFFING
MODELS AND I WANT TO BE REALLY
CLEAR THAT THE STAFFING MODELS
THAT ARE BEING BAKED INTO THE
ASSUMPTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR
BUDGET ARE REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY
ABOUT OFFICER WORKLOAD.
>> YES.
AND DR. FISHER WILL BE ABLE AND
I KNOW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
ANGELA SOCCI WILL BE ABLE TO
COVER SOME OF THAT MORE IN
DEPTH.
BUT YES, THAT'S WHERE YOU START
TO THEN LOOK INTO THE OFFICER
WORKLOAD TO UNDERSTAND DO WE
HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING TO
ADDRESS THAT WORKLOAD.
>> AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS
ORGANIZATION THAT THAT IS PART
OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TALKS ABOUT THE
STAFFING LANDSCAPE AND IT SAYS
THE FOLLOWING, FROM A LONG TERM
PERSPECTIVE POLICE AGENCIES
FACE A THREEFOLD CHALLENGE IN
MEETING THEIR STAFFING NEEDS.
A DECREASING NUMBER OF
QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, EXPANDING
ATTRITION AND A BROADENING
SCOPE OF POLICE WORK.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THOSE
PARTICULAR LONG TERM
PERSPECTIVES AS ARTICULATED BY
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE?
>> YEAH.
AS I NOTED ALREADY THERE ARE
THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT AT
TRYING TO REMOVE OFF OUR PLATE.
SO TO SAY.
SO YOU KNOW THAT IS ONE PART OF
THAT SHIFT.
IS THERE STUFF THAT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT SHOULDN'T
NECESSARILY RESPOND TO AND
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE,
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE
HIGHLIGHTED ALREADY.
I THINK SOME OF THOSE AREAS
ARE, THOSE COPS OFFICE.
I ACTUALLY WROTE A COUPLE
PUBLICATION ON COMMUNITY
POLICING.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTS BEING ABLE TO
ARTICULATE SOME OF THE BEST
PRACTICES.
>> I THINK, AND I APPRECIATE
THAT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
RECOGNIZE ONE OF THE
OBSERVATIONS THEY ALSO MAKE AND
I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO
IT IS THAT THEY ALSO WRITE IN
THIS PUBLICATION THAT QUOTE,
YET WHILE AGENCIES FEEL THEY
ARE UNDERSTAFFED, FEW ARE ABLE
TO CONCLUSIVELY DEMONSTRATE
THROUGH WORKLOAD ANALYSIS THAT
THIS IS TRUE.
AS ONE FOCUS GROUP PARTICIPANT
TOLD US, QUOTE, IF THE ANSWER
TO OUR PROBLEMS IS MORE
STAFFING WE WILL ALWAYS BE
UNDERSTAFFED.
CLOSED QUOTE.
>> SO I THINK WE'VE ALREADY
JUST IN THIS INITIAL
CONVERSATION WE'RE NOT SEEKING
TO EXPAND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WE KNOW THERE WERE ALREADY
LOOKING AT GIVING CERTAIN
POSITIONS UP WITH A REDUCTION
OF ALMOST, YOU KNOW, 1497 TO
1400.
I'M LOOKING AT DOWNSIZING.
WHAT THE PUBLICATION WAS
WRITING.
I THINK IT GETS INTO MOVING
CERTAIN TYPES OF CALLS FOR
SERVICE OVER TO OTHER ENTITIES.
I'M ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT OUR
CURRENT WORKLOAD IS KNOWING
THAT EVEN IF I MOVE THOSE OVER
I'M STILL GOING TO FIND
OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, DOING A
DEEPER DIVE INTO THE FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS.
IS THAT WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS, THERE'S
NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE
THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE.
STARTING 1st.
SO I GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WILL
WE STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THE
CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY AS WELL.
>> YEAH.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT
PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK THE POINT THAT THIS
ARTICLE IS MAKING AND THAT I AM
ENDEAVORING TO GET ON THE
RECORD HERE IN THIS
CONVERSATION IS THAT I BELIEVE
THAT THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S STAFFING MODEL AND
ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLINE THAT ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED.
SO LONG AS WE ARE CONTINUING TO
USE THE STAFFING MODEL
ASSUMPTIONS AND PRINCE.
S THAT ARE BAKED INTO THE
MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET WE WILL
CONTINUE TO SEE VERY MINIMAL
DECREASES IN THE STAFFING
PROJECTIONS.
WHY Y IS THAT?
WE USE A WORKLOAD MODEL
PERSPECTIVE.
AND THAT IS THE INHERENT
PROBLEM, I BELIEVE, IN HOW THE
STAFFING MODEL IS STRUCTURED
AND IN WHY THERE IS A
PHILOSOPHY AND A CULTURE OF
JUST REDUCTION.
THIS ARTICLE CONTINUES AND
CONCLUDES THAT QUOTE, PERCEIVED
UNDERSTAFFING MAY COMPROMISE
COMMUNITY POLICING AND PROBLEM
SOLVING EFFORTS.
INCREASED DUTIES ARISING FROM
FISCAL CONSTRAINTS REDUCE OTHER
OFFICER TIME SPENT IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WHILE TRANSFERRING COMMUNITY
POLICING DUTIES TO NONOFFICERS.
AGAIN, WHILE THEREFORING
COMMUNITY POLICING DUTIES TO
NONOFFICERS COULD HELP
ALLEVIATE STAFFING BURDENS OUR
INTERVIEWEES TOLD US THIS COULD
LEAD TO PERCEPTIONS THAT THE
AGENCY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT
RESIDENTS.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO
ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT IS PERCEPTION
AND WHAT IS BEING DATA DRIVEN.
TO ME IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
CONTINUE TO PUSH OURSELVES TO
LOOK AT THE UNDERLYING
ASSUMPTIONS OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFFING
MODELS AND ALLOW THAT TO LEAD
THE WORK OF WHERE THE STAFFING
LEVELS SHOULD BE SET AS OPPOSED
TO TAKING A WIDGET APPROACH AND
SAYING WELL WE HAVE ALL THIS
WORK, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT US
TO DO?
WELL WE WANT TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT
WORKLOAD IS.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE SCOPE OF
POLICE WORK HAS BEEN BROADENED
WAY BEYOND THE FUNCTIONS OF
CORE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY
THE CITY COUNCIL OVER THE LAST
TWO TO THREE YEARS HAS BEEN
FOCUSING ON BRINGING BACK THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
PROGRAM TO ALLOW FOR, AGAIN,
TRUE COMMUNITY POLICING BY
ASSIGNING THOSE DUTIES TO
NONOFFICERS.
THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION
I WANT TO ENGAGE WITH YOU IN
CHIEF DIAZ AS OPPOSED TO
FEELING LIKE THIS MORNING HAS
BEGUN FROM A PLACE OF I'M
DRAWING THE LINE IN THE SAND AT
1400 OFFICERS REGARDLESS OF
THIS INTERDEPARTMENTMENTAL TASK
FORCE THAT THE MAYOR IS
BEGINNING TO ALLEGEDLY EVALUATE
STAFFING LEVELS AND SCOPE OF
WORK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE
A CONVERSATION FROM A PLACE OF
FLEXIBILITY AND UNDERSTANDING
AND TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME
REALLY CRITICALLY WRONG ISSUES
IN TERMS OF THE MODELS THAT
POLICING AND GOVERNMENTS AND
CITIES HAVE BEEN USING TO MAKE
A LOT OF THE DECISIONS AROUND
BUDGETS.
AND THE SIZE OF POLICE
DEPARTMENTS PALATABLE.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND END
MY QUESTIONS THERE BUT I'M SURE
I'M GOING TO HAVE MORE AND DR.
FISHER JUST GOT A PREVIEW OF
WHERE I'M GOING TO BE HEADED.
>> IF I MIGHT JUST REAL
BRIEFLY, THE, I DON'T THINK, MY
PERSPECTIVE WE HAVEN'T SETTLED
ON A METHODOLOGY OF THE
ANALYSIS FOR THE FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS AND THE REASON TO HAVE
FORMED AN IDT IS TO DRAW IN
PERSPECTIVES IN ADDITION TO
SPD'S WITH CHIEF DIAZ'S CENTRAL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
DEPARTMENT.
THE POINTS YOU HAVE MADE ARE
IMPORTANT.
PART OF THIS IS TO RETHINK AND
REUNDERSTAND THE OVERALL
APPROACH AND NOT RELY ON SET
METHODOLOGIES RELIED ON IN THE
PAST.
THE APPROACH NEEDS AND WANTS TO
BE A THOUGHTFUL AND CAREFUL ONE
THAT ISN'T FIXED IN PAST MODELS
I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE
NECESSARILY A SINGULAR
APPROACH.
WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE FUNCTIONS
OF UNIFORMED OFFICERS AND WHAT
ARE NOT AND HOW THAT SPEAKS TO
APPROPRIATE STAFFING LEVELS FOR
THE UNIFORMED RESPONSE AND
NONUNIFORMED RESPONSE.
WHAT'S THE RELATIVE WORK
ASSIGNMENTS OF THOSE DIFFERENT
FUNCTIONS.
>> I THINK THEY'RE THE SAME
THING.
I MEAN, I HAVE SPENT THE LAST
THREE YEARS TALKING WITH THE
EXECUTIVE AROUND THE STAFFING
MODEL AND MY CONCERNS AROUND
THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS IN
THE STAFFING MODEL.
TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION KICK
OFF THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW WE
CAN REIMAGINE POLICING START
FROM A PLACE OF THERE ARE NO
CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH ANY
OF US SHOULD ASSUME THAT LESS
THAN 1400 BADGE AND GUN JOBS
ARE NEEDED AT SPD I THINK IS A
DISSERVICE.
IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THIS
CONVERSATION.
AND IT'S I THINK IT'S A
DISSERVICE TO THE EFFORT TO
REALLY TRULY ENGAGE IN
CONVERSATION FROM A PERSPECTIVE
OF REALLY BEING OPEN TO
ANALYZING AND EVALUATING WHAT
CORE LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS
ARE NECESSARY AT THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND WHICH ONES ARE NOT
AND HAVE THAT LEAD THE
DETERMINATION OF WHERE WE END
UP IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT
WE'RE STARTING THIS
CONVERSATION FROM THE PLACE OF
IT'S 1400 OFFICERS OR BUST.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING
TO BE HELPFUL.
>> AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING TO
CONTRADICT THE CHIEF.
WHAT THE BUDGET REFLECTS IS
THAT THAT IS THE PLACE WE ARE
UNTIL WE DEVELOP A MODEL AND AN
APPROACH TO ENSURE WE HAVE
OTHER WAYS TO RESPOND.
WE ALL AGREE POLICE OFFICERS
ARE RESPONDING TO CALLS WHERE
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT THEY
RESPOND TO.
THE CONCERN IS THAT IF WE
REDUCE THE FORCE BEFORE WE'VE
DEVELOPED THE MODEL ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO THOSE
CALLS THEN WE'RE NOT SERVING
THE PUBLIC.
CLEARLY WE NEED TO MOVE
QUICKLY.
>> I'LL HAVE A SERIES OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
I THINK I HAVE A DIFFERENT READ
AS WHAT THE BUDGET SAYS AS IT
RELATES TO REHIRING IN OUTWARD
YEARS.
BUT I WILL LEAVE THOSE
QUESTIONS TO THAT PORTION OF
THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MOSQUEDA
FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY
TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> OF COURSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DID WANT TO JUST NOTE I SEE
DR. FISHER, YOU DO HAVE
YOURSELF OFF OF MUTE.
IF YOU HAD A RESPONSE YOU'RE
WELCOME TO DO THAT BEFORE WE
MOVE TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
IN CASE THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
DOES HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
>> I THINK THE PRESIDENT SAID
WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE
PRESENTATION.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASSURE
EVERYONE WE'RE GOING TO GET
INTO THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE
SAVE TIME FOR THE WHOLE
PRESENTATION AND DON'T PUT IT
ALL ON THE CHIEF TO HAVE EVERY
ANSWER.
>> YEAH.
NO, WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT
PUTTING IT ALL ON ONE PERSON.
I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A
SYSTEMIC CONVERSATION FROM THE
BEGINNING AND I THINK IT'S
IMPRTANT WE DO HAVE AMPLE
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS SO
APPRECIATE THE CHIEF'S TIME.
GIVEN THIS IS A QUARTER OF THE
BUDGET I THINK IT'S AN AREA
WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE ANGELA AND DR.
FISHER YOUR PATIENCE AS WE GO
THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS
BECAUSE A FEW MORE WOULD BE
HELPFUL JUST I HOPE YOU
APPRECIATE IN TERMS OF SETTING
THE TONE IN OUR UNDERSTANDING,
A BASE UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE
GO INTO THE PRESENTATION.
I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT AND
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN NEXT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT.
>> JUST FOR STARTERS I REALLY
AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ JUST
MADE.
THE ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLYING THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED.
THAT'S WHY AT THE END OF THE
DAY IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL'S
DUTY TO PUSH FOR DEFUNDING BY
AT LEAST 50% IN THIS YEAR'S
BUDGET THIS FALL'S BUDGET VOTE
FOR 2021 AND TO ALSO PUSH FOR
COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT.
FOR CHIEF DIAZ, I FOUND YOUR
ENTIRE PRESENTATION VERY
TROUBLING.
NOT SURPRISING BUT STILL
TROUBLING NONETHELESS.
JUST TO PREFACE WHAT I'M ABOUT
TO SAY.
ABSOLUTELY PUBLIC SAFETY IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF
US.
IT WOULDN'T BE ACCURATE OR FAIR
TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN
MARCHING ON THE STREETS FOR
BLACK LIVES MATTER DO NOT AGREE
THAT WE WANT PUBLIC SAFETY.
IN FACT THE VERY PEOPLE WHO
FACE POLICE VIOLENCE ALSO FACE
THE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT
STATISTICALLY SPEAKING THE
WORST OUTCOMES IN TERMS OF
CRIME BECAUSE IT'S OFTEN
RELATED TO SOCIAL CONDITIONS.
THAT'S WHAT THE DATA SHOWS.
EVERYONE WANTS TO BE SAFE.
ALL WORKING COMMUNITIES HAVE
THE RIGHT TO BE SAFE.
THE WHOLE TRUST OF YOUR
PRESENTATION WAS TO RAISE A
SPECTER OF CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME
AND THE DIRE OUTCOMES THAT
WOULD RESULT IF IT THERE WAS
ANY KIND OF REDUCTION TO THE
SIZE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
HOWEVER MINIMUM.
SO I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO
SHARE SOME DATA IN THIS
DISCUSSION TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE
TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THIS.
I WANTED TO QUOTE FROM COLUMN
ON SEATTLE, SORRY, ON JANUARY
10th OF THIS YEAR SO JUST
EARLIER THIS YEAR THE COLUMN
WAS TITLED THIRD WORLD HELL
HOLE.
NEW DATA SHOWS SEATTLE HAD
LOWEST PROPERTY CRIME IN
DECADES.
IN THAT THE WHOLE, I'M NOT
GOING TO READ THE WHOLE COLUMN
BUT I'M GOING TO READ A PART OF
IT.
THE WHOLE COLUMN WAS IN
RESPONSE TO THE DYSTOPIAN
PICTURE THAT WAS BEING PAINTED
BY THE RIGHT WING NATIONALLY
INCLUDING RUSH LIMBAUGH AND FOX
NEWS THAT SEETHE MILLION BECOME
SOME SORT OF HOT BED OF CRIME.
DANNY, AND I'M QUOTING HIM
BECAUSE HE'S VERY FAR FROM
BEING A SOCIALIST LIKE ME BUT
THIS IS, HE'S QUOTING NUMBERS,
HE SAYS QUOTE, THE TRUTH IS
THAT WHILE ALL WAS HAPPENING
AROUND THE INTERNET HERE ON THE
STREETS CRIME ACTUALLY WENT
DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD IN 2019.
ROBBERY WAS DOWN PERCENT FROM A
YEAR AGO.
BURGLARY WAS OFF 6%.
PROPERTY CRIME IN TOTAL WAS
DOWN 6% WITH A RAW NUMBER OF
PROPERTY CRIMES THE LOWEST
RECORDED SINCE 2013.
MAYBE PEOPLE ARE SO FED UP THEY
AREN'T REPORTING ALL THE
PROPERTY CRIMES.
VIOLENT CRIME WAS ALSO DOWN BY
4% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
THERE WERE FIVE FEWER MURDERS.
81 FEWER AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS
AND 181 FEWER ROBBERIES THAN
2018.
WHAT ESPECIALLY STANDS OUT ARE
THE LOW CRIME RATES.
SEATTLE'S VIOLENT CRIME OF 6.1
INCIDENTS PER 100,000 PEOPLE
WERE THE SECOND LOWEST IN A
DECADE ACCORDING TO CITY DATA.
THE PROPERTY CRIME RATE OF
4,949 INCIDENTS PER 100,000
PEOPLE IS BY FAR THE LOWEST
RECORDED IN THE CITY SINCE AT
LEAST THE 1970s.
THE RATE IN 2019 WAS 20% LOWER
THAN IT WAS JUST FIVE YEARS AGO
AND MORE THAN 40% LOWER THAN IT
WAS 20 YEARS AGO, UNQUOTE.
AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY MY POINT
IS IN NO WAY TO MINIMIZE ANY
CRIME, LET ALONE VIOLENT CRIME.
FOR THE VICTIM OF THAT CRIME
THAT IS ONE CRIME TOO MANY.
BUT THE SPECTER YOU ARE
PRESENTING, CHIEF DIAZ, SORRY,
IS SIMPLY NOT BORN OUT BY
STATISTICS.
ON THE CONTRARY YOU HAVE BEEN
COMPLETELY SILENT IN YOUR
INTRODUCTION ON THE MASSIVE
TIME YOUR OFFICERS SPEND
ASSAULTING PROTESTERS AND
HARASSING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
SO MY QUESTION IS AS THE LEADER
OF THIS DEPARTMENT HOW DO YOU
JUSTIFY THIS PRESENTATION IN
GENERAL BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE
CONTEXT OF BLACK LIVES MATTER,
THE OUTRAGE AT RACIST POLICING
AND EXCESSIVE VIOLENCE.
HOW ARE YOUR POINTS AND THE
TRUST OF EVERYTHING YOU SAID IN
ANY WAY IN LINE WITH THE
REALITY OF STATISTICS AND ALSO
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
RACIST POLICING AND THE
VIOLENCETHAT IS BEING DIRECTED
AGAINST PROTESTERS BECAUSE I
KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO
HEAR ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO I THINK RIGHT NOW THE FIRST
PART IS THAT ANY OFFICER THAT
HAS DONE WRONG GOES THROUGH A
PROCESS.
I'VE HAD ALREADY IN MY SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME HAVE HELD
OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR
ACTIONS.
THAT IS PART OF MAKING SURE
THEY HAVE A ROBUST
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
SOME MIGHT NOT TRUST THAT
SYSTEM.
THAT'S A SYSTEM WE HAVE IN
PLACE.
I'M WILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT
ANY OFFICER THAT HAS DONE SOME
LEVEL OF WRONG DOING IS HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
I COMPLETELY HAVE SUPPORTED
BLACK LIVES MATTER AND THE
MOVEMENT.
I'VE DONE MY WORK IN PROBABLY
FOR OVER HALF MY CAREER IN
COMMUNITY.
I HAVE BEEN INVESTED WHEN
PEOPLE WORKING WITH YOUTH,
WORKING WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS.
SPENDING MY TIME INVESTED IN
THOSE AREAS.
I HAVE BEEN IN THE MIX OF THAT.
THAT IS MY COMMITMENT TO THE
COMMUNITY.
MY COMMITMENT IS TO MAKING SURE
THAT I'M SERVING THIS CITY IN
THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND THE
SAFEST MANNER.
THAT I PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP
TO MAKE SURE THIS DEPARTMENT IS
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS
ACTIONS.
WHEN OFFICERS DO WRONG, THEY'RE
GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
>> JUST AS A QUICK FOLLOW UP, I
DON'T EXPECT ANY DRAMATIC
SHIFTS IN YOUR THINKING, CHIEF
DIAZ.
BUT CAN YOU GIVE US SOME
SPECIFIC EXAMPLES?
YOU SAY YOU'VE HELD OFFICERS
ACCOUNTABLE.
I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT
UNDER YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND?
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT OFFICIAL PROCESS.
BUT GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF
WHERE YOU THINK THAT YOU
ACTUALLY ARE HOLDING OFFICERS
ACCOUNTABLE.
>> SO WE'VE PUT TWO OFFICERS ON
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE IN A VERY
SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR
ACTIONS THAT ARE RESULTED IN.
THAT WERE INAPPROPRIATE AND
THAT HAVE GONE.
ONE I SENT OVER FOR CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION THE KING COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I'VE HAD TO ALSO MOVE FORWARD
ON TERMINATIONS OF OFFICERS.
JUST IN THE LAST MONTH.
RIGHT NOW UNTIL ALL THE
PAPERWORK IS FINALIZED, YOU
KNOW, THOSE RIGHT NOW ARE
ACTUALLY AREAS THAT HAVE I HAVE
DONE OVER THE LAST MONTH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU AS WELL COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT AND PERHAPS WE
CAN PUT A PIN IN THAT TO
CONTINUE TO SEE WHERE SOME OF
THOSE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECES
COULD BE REFLECTED OR LIFTED UP
OR ANALYZED IN THE COMPOSED
BUDGET WE SEE SO WE CAN SEE IF
THERE'S ADDITIONAL NEED TO
EITHER INVEST IN OR ASK MORE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAYS IN
WHICH THE CHIEF HAS ADDITIONAL
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES WITHIN
HIS OWN DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE OF
THE ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS.
THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
QUESTION YOU'VE ASKED.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU CHIEF DIAZ AND TO YOU
AND YOUR TEAM.
THANKSFOR TAKING OVER.
JUST WANTED TO, I WAS RECALLING
THERE WAS A STUDY DONE IN 2016
ABOUT POLICE STAFFING AND I
THINK IT FOCUSED ON RESPONSE
TIMES.
I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE
BERKSHIRE REPORT.
I WASN'T HERE IN 2016 IN OFFICE
THEN BUT I JUST, IN TERMS, IF
YOU COULD JUST THROW THAT IN
THE MIX.
I KNOW RESPONSE TIMES HAVE BEEN
A CONCERN OF CONSTITUENTS OF
MINE IN THE NORTH PRECINCT
WHICH IS A HUGE GEOGRAPHIC
AREA.
WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO THROW
YOU IN THE MIX.
THERE WAS AN EXHAUSTIVE STUDY
DONE IN 2016.
TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE ABLE TO
THROUGH YOUR REMARKS TODAY TO
YOUR TEAM, WHENEVER THERE'S
SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO
THAT THERE'S NOT THE
FLEXIBILITY THAT IT'S CREATING
A HUGE EXPENSE ITEM.
LOOKING FOR WAYS TO REDEPLOY
RESOURCES TO COMMUNITY-LED
SOLUTIONS.
TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE ABLE TO
POINT TO THE POLICE CONTRACT,
THE LABOR CONTRACT WITH THE
SEATTLE POLICE OFFICER'S GUILD
AS BEING AN IMPEDIMENT.
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT.
I KNOW SOMETIMES WE SORT OF
DIVORCE THE BUDGET FROM IT THE
EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT EVEN THOUGH
THE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT IS
COMPRISING 80% OF THE COST
SOMETIMES.
TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE ABLE TO
SPEAK TO THAT THROUGH YOUR
PRESENTATION, THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL.
I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN
LIMITATIONS TO THAT.
I WANTED TO FLAG THAT WE KNOW
THAT THE CONTRACT CAN BE
PROBLEMATIC TOO.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
CHIEF DIAZ, I DIDN'T MEAN TO
CUT YOU OFF.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> NO.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT
I'M ALWAYS CONSTANTLY
EVALUATING IS THE OVERTIME
EXPENDITURES.
FOR US IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE
THERE ARE AREAS WE SPEND THE
MOST OVERTIME MAKING SURE IS
STAFFED PROPERLY WITH OUR
EXISTING RESOURCES TO TRY TO
DRIVE DOWN BUDGETARY ISSUES.
SO I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, PAYING A
LOT OF OVERTIME.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME
UP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
THERE WAS THE SEATTLE AUDITOR'S
OFFICE HAD DONE A REPORT.
THOSE ARE AREAS I'M CONSTANTLY
LOOKING AT AND EVALUATING.
HOW CAN WE CREATE MORE
EFFICIENCY.
HOW CAN WE BE MORE JUDICIOUS IN
HOW WE SPEND OUR DOCTORS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
TIGHT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE
RIGHT USE OF CITY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.
THOSE ARE AREAS WE'RE MOVING
FORWARD ON.
MOVING OFFICERS BACK INTO
PATROL.
I WAS SPENDING A LOT OF OFFICER
TIME AND AUGMENTATION SHIFTS.
OR SO TRYING TO GET UP TO A
CERTAIN LEVEL OF STAFFING.
NOW THAT WE HAVE OFFICERS IN
PATROL I'M ABLE TO MEET THAT
GUYLINE AND REDUCE THAT LEVEL
OF OVERTIME THAT I'M GOING TO
END UP, THAT I WAS GOING TO
EXPERIENCE LATER ON.
WE DID THAT WITHIN THE
CONFOUNDS OF THE CONTRACT AS
WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE I WAS
ALREADY WORKING WITH OUR SIDE
OF IT.
I KNEW OPERATION WHAT WE NEEDED
TO DO AND WE HAD, WHILE WE SAW
THE CONTRACT WE ALSO HAD TO
MAKE SURE WE WORKED WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF THE CONTRACT.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND
ALSO REDUCE OVERTIME AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS THE 2016 BERKSHIRE
STAFFING STUDY.
I CERTAINLY, MY PREFERENCE
WOULD BE THAT WE NOT LOOK AT
THAT.
IT HAD VERY LITTLE UTILITY
FRANKLY AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK
TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN
ABOUT CONCERNS I HAD ABOUT THAT
AND CONCERNS THAT THE FRANKLY
AT THE TIME THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAD WITH THE RESULTS
OF THAT STUDY.
I DO THINK THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKEN A
DIFFERENT APPROACH.
ONE THAT IS GOING TO FOCUS
PRIMARILY ON WHAT THE STAFFING
MODEL SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.
TAKING PERFORMANCE, OUTCOMES
AND OTHER DATA POINTS.
THAT NEEDS TO BE HOLISTIC AND
NOT JUST FOCUSED ON FUNCTIONS
AND WORKLOAD.
THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO
SAY.
THE SECOND THING I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT AS IT RELATES TO
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN'S
COMMENTS ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US IN THIS
BUDGET CONVERSATION TO
ACKNOWLEDGE AND BE TRANSPARENT
THAT THERE ARE PORTIONS,
SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENTS BOTH WITH SPDA AND
SPOG THAT DO CONTRIBUTE TO A
BLOATED NEED FOR STAFFING.
THAT IS CONTRIBUTING
SIGNIFICANTLY TO OVERTIME COSTS
AND TO ON GOING COSTS AS IT
RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF SWORN
OFFICERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
MIGHT BE NEEDED.
SO THOSE ARE BARRIERS THAT I
THINK NEED TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED
PUBLICLY.
THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WILL NEED
TO BE SQUARELY AND DIRECTLY
ADDRESSED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE
LABOR RELATIONS POLICY
COMMITTEE OF WHICH FIVE COUNCIL
MEMBERS SIT ON.
I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN'S ON GOING REMINDER TO
US AND THE DEPARTMENT THAT
THESE ISSUES PRESENT REAL
BARRIERS.
TO ACHIEVING MORE CHANGE AS IT
RELATES TO STAFFING DECISIONS
AND BUDGET IMPLICATIONS RELATED
TO THE SAME.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN AS WELL FOR THOSE
QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED AND
CHIEF DIAZ FOR YOUR RESPONSE.
I THINK WE CAN MOVE INTO THE
PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE ABOUT TWO HOURS
STILL FOR THIS MORNING'S
SESSION SO WE SHOULD HAVE
PLENTY OF TIME.
CHIEF DIAZ, I HAVE ONE MORE
SORT OF FRAMING QUESTION AS WE
HEAD INTO THIS.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU MENTIONED
EVEN AFTER YOU TRANSITIONED
MORE OFFICERS INTO FOOT PATROL
THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME
AMOUNT OF INDIVIDALS IN PATROL
THAT YOU HAD EIGHT YEARS AGO.
IS THAT THE ACCURATE NUMBER I
HEARD?
>> I THINK CHRIS, DR. FISHER
CAN BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THE
EXACT NUMBERS.
BUT HE'LL DO HIS PART OF THAT
PRESENTATION.
>> EXCELLENT.
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE REASON I ASK THAT.
I WANT TO TEE THIS UP FOR
FRAMING THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
I'M GOING TO SHARE A SCREEN
WITH YOU ALL.
IS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN FROM THE
REPORTS, ESPECIALLY OVER THE
LAST YEAR OR FEW MONTHS HERE
THAT WE'VE SEEN NUMBER OF
ACCOUNTS WHERE THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET HAS
INCREASED ABOUT 45% OVER THAT
SAME PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE
LAST EIGHT YEARS.
IN FACT WE SEE THE HIGHEST
NUMBER OR THE MOST EXPONENTIAL
INCREASE IN THE TIME MAYOR
DURKAN HAS BEEN IN OFFICE.
IT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO DO THE
ANALYSIS WAS RIGHT SIZE OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
YOU CORRECTLY NOTED THAT THE
POPULATION IN SEATTLE HAS
INCREASED.
BUT ACCORDING TO THE SAME
REPORT WE KNOW THAT THE NUMBER
OF DOLLARS PER CAPITA HAS
INCREASED.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF THE
DOLLARS PER INDIVIDUALS GOING
DOWN.
THE DOLLARS PER INDIVIDUALS HAS
GONE UP.
AS THE POPULATION HAS
INCREASED.
I THINK THESE TWO CHARTS REALLY
HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
CONVERSATION THAT THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT TEED UP AT THE
BEGINNING WHICH IS REALLY A
QUESTION ABOUT THE ADEQUATE
WORKLOAD.
THE RIGHT FUNCTIONS AND THE
RIGHT STAFFING MODEL FOR THOSE
FUNCTIONS.
I WANTED TO TEE THIS UP AS WE
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
THE PROPOSED BUDGET LOOKS LIKE
FOR 2021.
AND ALSO CONTINUE TO REMIND US
THAT AS THIS MAKES UP ABOUT A
QUARTER OF GENERAL FUND THIS IS
REALLY CRITICAL NOT JUST FOR
ANSWERING THE CALLS FOR WHAT
THE RIGHT SIZE, SCOPE AND
FUNCTIONS OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ARE BUT AS WE'RE
FACING A HUGE ECONOMIC CRISIS
TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF
THE PUBLIC DOLLAR IS IMPORTANT.
I'LL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AND
TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU ALL TO
WALK US THROUGH THE
PRESENTATION.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
HELPING TO TEE UP THIS
CONVERSATION TODAY FOR FIELDING
THESE QUESTIONS.
I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE
THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING.
BUT I THINK THIS CONVERSATION
IS NOT THE FIRST TIME TO HAVE A
CHANCE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
IT'LL BE THE ON GOING
DISCUSSION OVER THE NEXT FEW
MONTHS AND WE'VE INITIATED IT
EARLIER THIS SUMMER AND OVER
THE FALL.
THANKS FOR TEEING THIS UP AND
BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO
ANGELA, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM
YOU?
>> NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I KNOW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SOCCI
IS WAITING.
>> I'M SORRY.
DID I SEE A HAND COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES?
>> WELL, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION
FOR THE CHIEF BEFORE WE MOVE
ON.
I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT
YOU HAD MOVED SOME DETECTIVE
UNITS BACK TO PATROL.
I'M INTERESTED IN WHICH UNITS
BECAUSE WHAT I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT IS THE IMPACT ON
INVESTIGATIONS FOR SEX
TRAFFICKING FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT
AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN A LITTLE
ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES
BEFORE.
I AM INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND
WHY THOSE UNITS WERE MOVED TO
PATROL, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF
SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU JUST
MADE ABOUT THE INCREASE IN
THOSE ISSUES.
>> SEX TRAFFICKING NEVER MOVED
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT UNIT, IT'S
IN RELATION TO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
THERE WAS NO BODIES THAT MOVED
OUT OF THAT UNIT.
THE SEXUAL OFFENDER DETAIL HAD
ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT AN
ANALYSIS OVER THE LAST FIVE
YEARS TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT
STAFFING LEVEL WAS AND THAT IS
RELATIVELY STEADY.
THERE WAS, WE HAD A BODY THAT
WAS A WORKED IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT HAD NO
CONNECTION TO SEXUAL ASSAULT
CASES.
THAT POSITIONWAS AGREE GAITED.
LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE TWO
POSITIONS.
WE HAVE SENT OVER THE ACTUAL
UNITS AND THEN DV WAS ANOTHER
UNIT THAT WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY
ASSESSING CASE LOADS FOR.
WE ALSO TOOK A FIVE YEAR AND
TEN YEAR ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY
DETECTIVES CURRENTLY STAFF IT
AND IT WAS A MINIMAL IMPACT ON
THE DETECTIVES THAT LEFT.
IT WASN'T A FULL AGREATION OF
THE WHOLE UNIT OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.
LOADS LOOK LIKE.
TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY
MAJOR IMPACT TO OUR ABILITY TO
RESPOND TO DV AND INVESTIGATE
DV CASES.
>> ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF COVID
WE KNOW DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS
UP.
SOMEBODY WAS KILLED JUST THE
OTHER DAY AND SO I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE US TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE IN
THAT REGARD.
>> MAY I JUST ASK?
>> VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR OF
PUBLIC SAFETY COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES' QUESTIONS AS IT
RELATES TO THE TRANSFER FROM
SPECIALTY UNITS TO PATROL.
I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY THE
CHIEF IS SEEKING TO TRANSFER.
I TOO HAVE BEEN FOR A WHILE NOW
BEEN SEEKING A LITTLE BIT MORE
DETAIL.
I REQUESTED AND RECEIVED THE
NUMBERS OF OFFICERS TRANSFERRED
FROM EACH SPECIALTY UNIT TO
PATROL BUT ONE OF THE ANSWERS
THAT I'VE NOT YET RECEIVED NOT
JUST THE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS
BEING TRANSFERRED FROM A
SPECIALIZED UNIT TO PATROL,
SPECIALIZED UNITS LIKE SEXUAL
ASSAULT, DV, ELDER ABUSE, BUT
HOW MANY ARE REMAINING IN EACH
OF THOSE SPECIALTY UNITS.
IT DOESN'T GIVE US MUCH CONTEXT
TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, TWO OFFICERS
WERE TRANSFERRED WITHOUT
KNOWING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS
THAT ARE STILL IN THAT
SPECIALIZED UNIT.
I JUST WANT TO LET MY
COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL KNOW
THAT I AM SEEKING THAT
INFORMATION AND STILL SEEKING
IT AND WHEN I RECEIVE IT I WILL
EITHER SHARE IT WITH YOU OR THE
FACT THAT CHIEF DIAZ NOW KNOWS
THERE'S BROADER INTEREST THAN
JUST MY INTEREST MAYBE YOU
COULD JUST SHARE IT WITH
EVERYBOD.
I HOPE THE FACT I'VE ASKED THIS
QUESTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO NOW
THAT IT WON'T GO INTO SORT OF
THE BUDGET ANSWER QUESTION
PROCESS.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMETHING
READY THAT WILL BE SENT TO US
WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS
OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GO THROUGH
SHAREPOINT AND ALL THAT.
>> WE'LL WORK WITH OUR STAFF TO
MAKE SURE WE GET THE
INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU.
LONG AWAITED PRESENTATION FROM
ANGELA.
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANGELA.
THANK YOU CHIEF DIAZ FOR
FIELDING THOSE QUESTIONS WHICH
I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE TO
COME BUT APPRECIATE YOUR INTRO
REMARKS AND ANSWERING THOSE
QUESTIONS FOR US.
ANGELA, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IF I CAN GET CONFIRMATION THAT
FOLKS CAN SEE MY SCREEN THAT
WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH
CHIEF DIAZ HIS PRIORITIES FOR
AS NEWLY APPOINTED CHIEF.
I'LL PAUSE BRIEFLY HERE FOR
FOLKS TO ABSORB THIS
INFORMATION.
AS I BELIEVE IT'S BEING
PUBLISHED FOR THE FIRST TIME
WITH A BUDGET AND THEN WE'LL GO
AHEAD AND MOVE RIGHT ON IN.
I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN MOVE
THE VIDEO PORTION.
ALL RIGHT.
SO THE TABLE HERE REPRESENTS
THE 2020 ADOPTED BUDGET ALONG
THE 2020 REVISED AND 2021
PROPOSED.
THESE CHANGES BOTH DOLLARS
ACROSS THE MULTIPLE FUNDS
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ALONG
WITH THE FTE CAPTURED HERE ARE
BASED ON THE NET CHANGES
COMPARED, NET CHANGE BETWEEN
THE 2020 ADOPTED TO 2020
REVISED WHICH IS GOING TO
INCLUDE THE REBALANCING PACKAGE
ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL CHANGES
AND SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET
INFORMATION AND THEN ALONGSIDE
THEN THE 2021 PROPOSED.
AN IMPORTANT COMMENT HERE.
THE COMPARISON OF THE 2021
PROPOSED TO THE 2020 ADOPTED
AND 2020 REVISED BUDGETS
SUSPECT NECESSARILY GOING TO
ALIGN PERFECTLY WITH THE
BUDGET.
THE CHANGE REQUESTS THAT ARE
ENTERS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY
CENTRAL STAFF AND OTHERS ARE
GOING TO BE TAKEN FROM THE 2021
BASELINE BUDGET.
THERE MAY BE SOME DISCREPANCIES
BETWEEN THE $49 MILLION
REFLECTED HERE AND OTHER
PUBLICATIONS THAT HAVE GONE
OUT.
HIGH LEVEL, OUR CHANGE FROM THE
2020 ADOPTED IS 49 MILLION-
DOLLAR CUT, $35 MILLION FROM
THE 2020 REVISED.
FROM AN FTE OR POSITION
STANDPOINT WE'RE GOING FROM IN
2020 ADOPTED, 2,1 L 4 FTE TO A
LEVEL OF 1,853 IN 2021.
THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS WE'LL
MOVE ALONG.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THE SWORN
STAFFING LEVEL IS GOING TO MAKE
UP AS EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT 80%
OF OUR BUDGET IS ATTRIBUTABLE
TO PERSONNEL COSTS.
82% IN 2020.
80% IN 2021.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT REDUCTION
WE'RE TAKING GOING INTO 2021 IS
ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CUT OF
FUNDING FOR 97 SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS.
THE AGREGATION OF 47 OF THOSE
97.
WE'RE CUTTING FUNDING FOR 40
CIVILIAN POSITIONS FOR A
SAVINGS OF 4.1 MILLION AND ALSO
CUTTING FUNDING FOR OVERTIME
FOR SELECTED EVENTS AND
EMPHASIS PATROLS FOR A SAVINGS
OF 2.7 MILLION.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST
AROUND STAFFING.
AROUND THAT SWORN NUMBER OF 14
P. I WANT TO TAKE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REITERATE THAT
AS WE WERE WRITING THIS BUDGET
WE ASKED OURSELVES WHO WILL
RESPOND TO EMERGENCY CALLS ON
JANUARY 1. EVEN IF WE COULD
COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON
ALTERNATIVES, BY THE END OF THE
BUDGET PROCESS CAN WE AS A CITY
HIRE, TRAIN AND DEPLOY THESE
NEW RESOURCES BY JANUARY 1.
WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED.
HOW MUCH CAPACITY IS NEEDED.
CAN WE LEVERAGE COMMUNITY
RELATIONSHIPS TO EXPEDITE THE
ROLLOUT OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES.
HOW WILL WE FINANCE THE
TRANSITION.
THERE WILL BE OVERLAP?
WE RECOGNIZE THERE WERE MANY
OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.
ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY TO
ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE HAS DONE
WORK.
I KNOW COUNCIL HAS DONE WORK IN
THAT AREA.
I JUST WANT TO, I'M NOT HERE TO
MAKE VALUE JUDGMENTS.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY 1400 IS THE
NUMBER.
THE STATUS QUO TODAY 1400 IS
NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THAT
STATUS QUO.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS BUILT INTO
THE BUDGET.
WE ESTIMATED IT WOULD TAKE TWO
YEARS TO IMPLEMENT A NEW
DISPATCH SYSTEM.
THIS IS COMMON FOR I.T.
PROJECTS.
WE BUILD IN TIME FOR QUALITY
ASSURANCE, CHANGE MANAGEMENT.
WE ACCOUNT FOR LEARNING CURVES
AND BUILD IN EXTRA FUNDING FOR
CONTINGENCIES.
I MAY BE TOO LINEAR AND TOO
FOCUSED ON LOGISTICS BUT WHEN I
THINK ABOUT TACKLING A MAJOR
SHIFT IN HOW WE PROVIDE CITY
SERVICES I THINK THE, WHAT
YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A
CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THAT.
THE SHIFTING TIDE AROUND HOW WE
PROVIDE COMMUNITY SAFETY
SERVICES IN THE CITY.
WE TRIED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN
WHAT'S GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING
ON THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
PROPOSAL.
FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT
SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS START WITH
A PLAN.
A PLAN STARTS AS AN IDEA AND IT
REQUIRES CAREFUL PLANNING
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S PLANNING
MAJOR CHANGES TO BASIC CITY
SERVICES.
THIS IS MEANT TO BE A HOLDING
PLACE WHAT'S BUILT INTO THE
BUDGET.
AS EVERYONE KNOWS WE HAVE
PROCESSES IN IT PLACE TO MODIFY
THAT BUDGET.
AS IT'S ADOPTED.
WE MODIFY THE PROPOSED BUDGETS
THROUGH THIS COUNCIL PROCESS.
SO THROUGH THAT LENS I JUST ASK
EVERYONE TO LOOK INTO, AS THESE
NEXT SLIDES COME UP, KNOW THAT
IS THE CONTEXT THROUGH WHICH WE
ESTABLISH THIS BUDGET.
BY PROVIDING HISTORICAL
STAFFING INFORMATION, IT IS
REALLY INTENDED TO PROVIDE YOU
AS POLICYMAKERS WITH FACTUAL
GOOD INFORMATION TO INFORM YOUR
POLICY DECISIONS.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT'S MY ROLE
IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE
INFORMATION YOU NEED IN ORDER
TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WITH THAT I WILL JUMP INTO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I TO SEE TWO HANDS.
I'M GOING TO ALLOW FOR COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD AND MORALES TO
ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T ANNOUNCE THAT
EARLIER IF YOU HAVE CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL GET
THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND
I'LL GO THROUGH EACH PERSON SO
THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK A
NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
DO KNOW THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE
TO HAVE TIME AT THE END FOR
LETTING FOLKS ASK THOSE
QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE.
>> ANGELA, I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THAT I APPRECIATE THE FINAL
COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE AROUND
YOU KNOW HOW YOU TAKE AN IDEA
AND TURN IT INTO A PLAN.
AND THEN IMPLEMENT IT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR
BUDGET ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE IN
THE FALL TO GO INTO EFFECT
STARTING IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR
WE CAN BUILD INTO THOSE BUDGETS
ASSUMPTIONS THAT PLANS CAN BE
EXECUTED AT TIMES THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR.
NOT EVERY PLAN THAT OUR BUDGET
RECOGNIZES HAS TO GO INTO
EFFECT JANUARY 1st.
BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT I THINK
FOR POLICYMAKERS, FOR MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC WHO WE'RE
ENGAGING WITH AND FOR THE CITY
INTERNALLY IN ORDER TO HOLD
OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR US TO
USE THE BUDGET AS A WAY TO SET
GOALS AND TIMELINES FOR
REALIZING THOSE PLANS.
AND, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T HAD A
CHANCE TO TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK
AT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
I AM CONCERNED FROM IT FIRST
GLANCE IS IT DOESN'T SEEM TO
IDENTIFY TIMELINES.
SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE IN THIS BUDGET IS A
RECOGNITION THAT YEAH, WE CAN'T
NECESSARILY SHIFT THE ANSWERING
TO A BUNCH OF 911 CALLS OVER TO
SOMEBODY ELSE JANUARY 1st BUT
WE CAN BUILD A BUDGET WITH SOME
ASSUMPTIONS AROUND WHEN WE
EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.
WE CAN BUILD A PLAN TO MAKE IT
POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY
THAT, BUT I WANT OUR BUDGET TO
REFLECT THAT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER
TO DO SO.
I DO HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
FUNDING FOR THE 97 SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS, THESE ARE VACANT
POSITIONS; THAT'S CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> AND THEN THE CUT FUNDING FOR
THE 40 FTE CIVILIAN POSITIONS,
ARE THOSE THE TRANSFERS TO THE
OTHER DEPARTMENTS?
I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE THAT
WOULDN'T BE A CUT.
WHAT ARE THOSE?
>> SO THAT WAS, SO THE CIVILIAN
CUT WAS DEVELOPED AT THE OUTSET
OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
IT ACCOUNTS FOR THE SAVINGS,
IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE
CIVILIAN HIRING FREEZE THAT WAS
IMPLEMENTED IN 2020 IN RESPONSE
TO COVID.
YOU SAW SOME OF THOSE CUTS IN
YOUR 2020 REBALANCING PACKAGE.
THIS ITEM HERE IS A
CONTINUATION OF THOSE CUTS INTO
NEXT YEAR.
SORRY.
>> THEN MY LAST QUESTION
RELATED TO OVERTIME.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I THINK
HAS BEEN PERENNIALLY RAISED
AROUND SPECIAL EVENTS AND
OVERTIME IS THE QUESTION AND I
WAS VISITED BY A COALITION OF
ORGANIZATIONS THAT
TRADITIONALLY WORK WITH THE
SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE TO PUT
ON LARGE EVENTS EVERY YEAR.
WANT TO FLAG AND I DON'T WANT
IF THIS LINKS TO THIS ITEM ON
OVERTIME, THE LONG STANDING
PRACTICE OF HAVING POLICE
OFFICERS ACT AS FLAGGERS.
THAT IS NOT, THERE'S THIS
NARRATIVE OUT THERE THAT STATE
LAW REQUIRES IT TO BE UNIFORM
POLICE OFFICERS.
THAT IS NOT IN FACT THE CASE.
AND I REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT
HAVING SOMEBODY OTHER THAN
POLICE OFFICERS SERVE THIS
FUNCTION.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND IN A
FINANCIAL ATMOSPHERE WHERE WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
RECOOPING THE COSTS TO THE CITY
ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIAL EVENTS,
WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE
PROMOTERS OF SPECIAL EVENTS SO
THAT THEY DO SO SO THEY FULLY
COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR THE
COST ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIAL
EVENT THES.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE USING THE
MOST EXPENSIVE STAFFING MODEL
FOR THOSE EVENTS.
I'M HOPING THAT THIS CUT IN
OVERTIME INCLUDES A SHIFT AWAY
FROM UNIFORMED OFFICERS ACTING
AS FLAGGERS AT SPECIAL EVENTS
OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, STREET
CLOSURES ASSOCIATED WITH
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND LOOKS AT A SHIFT TOWARDS
EITHER NONUNIFORM POLICE
OFFICERS OR OTHER CITY
EMPLOYEES LIKE POTENTIALLY SDOT
EMPLOYEES.
>> JUST BACKING UP.
EXECUTIVE ORDER DOES HAVE
DEADLINES.
IN ANTICIPATION OF SUPPLEMENTAL
BUDGETARY ACTIONS TO FOLLOW.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD
DISCUSSION FOR THIS AFTERNOON
IN GREATER DETAIL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES.
>> WELL I JUST HAD A QUESTION
ABOUT THAT TOO.
I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHICH
SELECTED EVENTS WILL BE
INCLUDED HERE.
SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON
THAT.
THAT'D BE GREAT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES.
COLLEAGUES PLEASE TAKE A NOTE
OF THE SLIDES YOU WOULD LIKE
THE PRESENTERS TO GO BACK TO
AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE ROLL
AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A
CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD'S POINT, THE, SHE'S
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WE COULD BUILD
INTO THE BUDGET TO THE BEST OF
OUR ABILITY ANTICIPATE CHANGES
AND WHAT ALTERNATIVES IN 2021
WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN IT COMES
TO POLICE STAFFING WE HAVE A
LOT OF HISTORICAL DATA WE CAN
LOOK AT.
AS SOMEONE IN BUDGET I'VE
FOLLOWED THIS CLOSELY NOT ONLY
THROUGH THE DRASTIC INCREASES
IN OUR PERSONNEL COSTS.
TIED ALMOST TO SWORN SALARIES
TIED TO THAT CONTRACT.
THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE HERE
AS WE CONTEMPLATE NEXT STEPS
AROUND SWORN STAFFING WHETHER
THE NUMBER IS 1400 OR 1300, YOU
KNOW, 1200, WHATEVER THE NUMBER
ENDS UP BEING.
WHATEVER WE DECIDE.
FOR THOSE, I'M ABLE TO READ
FROM SOME OF THE BUDGET
QUESTIONS WE'VE RECEIVED FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT BE
CONTEMPLATING A CONTINUATION OF
THE HIRING FREEZE INTO 2021.
I JUST WANT TO USE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE
IMPACTS OF THAT.
THE LAST TIME WE IMPLEMENED A
HIRING FREEZE, YOU'LL SEE IT IN
THE SLIDE HERE, WAS IN 2010.
EXTENDED THROUGH 2011.
2 IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE
GREAT RECESSION.
EVEN THOUGH WE RESUMED HIRING,
WE DIDN'T SEE NET NEW HIRES
UNTIL 2013.
THOSE HIRES WEREN'T DEPLOYED
UNTIL DECEMBER OF THAT YEAR.
FORTUNATELY FOR US AT THAT
POINT THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN
CAUSED BY THE GREAT RECESSION
SLOWED ATTRITION.
IF YOU SLIDE OVER TO THE FAR
RIGHT OF THAT CHART ON THE
SLIDE, WE HAVE SEEN A
SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN OUR
DEPLOYABLE RESOURCES THIS YEAR.
LARGELY TIED TO THE HIRING
FREEZE THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
ALSO TIED TO COVID AND AN
INCREASE OF PEOPLE ON
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE WHETHER
IT'S PAID PARENTAL LEAVE.
THE CONTINUATIONS JUST FOR
EXTRA CONTEXT AND PERSPECTIVE.
I'LL WILL PROVIDING THIS
INFORMATION TO CENTRAL STAFF SO
WE CAN CERTAINLY DIVE INTO IT
DEEPER.
SHOULD WE CONTINUE A HIRING
FREEZE INTO NEXT YEAR, WITHIN A
YEAR OUR NUMBER WILL RESEMBLE
POLICE STAFFING IN THE 80s.
AT THE TIME THE SEATTLE
POPULATION WAS LESS THAN
500,000.
THAT COULD VERY WELL BE THE
DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED IN OR
THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD HEAD IN
AS A CITY.
AGAIN, NOT HERE TO MAKE THOSE
VALUE JUDGMENTS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
SHOULD WE REVERT TO THOSE
STAFFING LEVELS IT IS
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT WE
EXPEDITE THE DEVELOPMENT AND
DEPLOYMENT OF THOS ALTERNATIVE
MODELS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE FUNDING, THE CUTS TO OUR
FUNDING GOING INTO NEXT YEAR I
JUST, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH
THAT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW F
WE DECREASE OUR STAFFING 100 OR
200 AND CHANGE OUR MINDS IT'S
GOING TO TAKE MANY YEARS TO
RECUPERATE.
OR WE'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE
SERVICE IMPACTS FOR THE TIME IN
BETWEEN.
SO WHETHER THERE'S OVERLAP IN
THOSE SERVICES OR NOT OVERLAP
IN THOSE SERVICES, PERHAPS
THAT'S OKAY TOO.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT UNTIL WE STAND
UP ALTERNATIVES, UNTIL WE
IDENTIFY WHAT FUNCTIONS ARE
GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED OUT OF
THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S TRULY
CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO OUR
BEST TO ANTICIPATE WHERE WE
MIGHT END UP BECAUSE WE NEED TO
START PLANNING NOW IF WE'RE
GOING TO HIRE OR NOT GOING TO
HIRE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH THE
HIRING FREEZE WE IMPLEMENTED
THIS YEAR, ALMOST
SIMULTANEOUSLY WE STARTED
PLANNING FOR HIRING WHEN HIRING
WAS GOING TO RESUME, YOU KNOW,
TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.
IT TAKES TIME TO TEST.
IT TAKES TIME TO RECRUIT
CANDIDATES FOR TESTING.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT
HAVE TO HAPPEN.
I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO
KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE
CONTEMPLATE WHAT THE
APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF STAFFING
AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS.
WHATEVER NUMBER YOU CHOOSE TO
FUND ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE
WILL FIELD ABOUT 10% LESS OF
THAT.
WHEN YOU FACTOR IN OUR SHIFT
RELIEF, OUR FURLOUGH SCHEDULES,
THE OFFICERS AVAILABLE FOR
EMERGENCY RESPONSE EACH DAY
WILL BE A SMALL FRACTION OF THE
WHOLE.
THOSE ARE JUST A FEW HIGH LEVEL
POINTS.
MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO INTO THIS
IN GREATER DETAIL EITHER
OFFLINE, THROUGH THE BUDGET
Q&A.
BUT I URGE EVERYONE TO THINK
ABOUT AS WE CONTEMPLATE CUTS TO
THE BUDGET, JUST KNOW THAT FOR
US THAT 1400 IS NECESSARY FOR
THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR CURRENT
SERVICE.
WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THAT
SERVICE BUT JUST KNOW THAT
WE'LL NEED TO ANTICIPATE THAT
IN ADVANCE SO WE CAN PLAN THE
STAFFING AND HIRING PIECE
ACCORDINGLY.
WITH THAT I WILL PASS IT ON TO
CHRIS TO DIVE IN A LITTLE MORE
INTO THE STAFFING MODELS THAT
ARE USED TO DEVELOP OUR MINIMUM
STAFFING.
THEN JUST SOME CONTEXT SHARING
THERE.
CHRIS.
>> THANK YOU, ANGELA.
AS WE SAW IN THE OPENING WE
ANTICIPATED THERE WOULD BE SOME
QUESTIONS AROUND HOW THE
úSEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES
THE WORK OF FIGURING OUT HOW
MANY PEOPLE IT NEEDS WHERE AND
THEN YOU ADD THOSE UP AND THAT
TELLS YOU HOW MANY YOU NEED IN
TOTAL.
AS THE CHIEF POINTED OUT, WE DO
NOT USE A PER CAPITA ANALYSIS
TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE RIGHT
NUMBER.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF REASONS
WHY YOU SHOULDN'T.
THE REASON IT IS REFERENCED IS
IT DOES PROVIDE YOU CONTEXT.
CHAIR SON ALWAYS PROVIDES
CONTEXT.
IT HELPS US ENSURE WE'RE NOT IN
THE WRONG BALLPARK OR THE WRONG
SPORT TO PLAY OUT THE ANALOGY.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THESE ARE
THE 25 LARGEST CITIES BY
POPULATION.
THE BLUE BARS ARE THE
POPULATION.
THE ORANGE DOTS ARE THEIR PER
CAPITA SWORN PER 100,000.
SEATTLE IS AT 185.
THIS IS DATA REPORTED BY ALL OF
THESE CITIES ACROSS THE U.S.
THE CRIME REPORT IS THAT WE ARE
IN THE LOW END COMPARED TO
CITIES OF LARGER, SMALLER AND
SIMILAR SIZE.
SO IT TELLS US WE'RE NOT VASTLY
OVERSTAFFED COMPARED TO SIMILAR
CITIES.
WE'RE NOT VASTLY UNDERSTAFFED
COMPARED TO SIMILAR CITIES.
BUT WE ARE ON THE LOW END.
THAT'S JUST THE CONTEXT.
WE DO I THINK AS THE QUESTION
AND POINTS WERE MADE BY SEVERAL
COUNCIL MEMBERS THE OUTSET WE
DON'T RELY ON A TOOL.
WE RECOGNIZE ALL OF THOSE SAME
CONSTRAINTS AND PROBLEMS.
I IMMEDIATELY AS THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT STARTED QUOTING IT I
KNEW WHAT DOCUMENT SHE WAS
QUOTING FROM.
WE USE THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL.
WE USE A VARIETY OF MODELS.
WE DO USE THE MANAGING PATROL
PERFORMANCE PROGRAM.
MPP AS WE CALL IT.
DEVELOPED OUT OF MIT.
THAT'S BEEN IN USE SINCE AROUND
1975.
IN REALITY AN OPERATIONS
QUEUING MODEL THAT ANY AGENCY
COULD USE TO DETERMINE HOW LONG
DO I WANT MY CUSTOMER, MY
CLIENTS, THE PUBLIC TO WAIT FOR
THE SERVICE.
YOU FEED INTO THAT APPLY KATEED
PROGRAM.
IT WAS DEVELOPED A WHILE AGO.
THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT MORE USER
FRIENDLY.
TO FORMATTE DATA TO FEED IN
THINGS LIKE HOW LONG ARE YOU
SPENDING ON EACH SERVICE CALL.
WHATEVER YOUR SERVICE MODEL IS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE TIED
UP FOR EACH OF THOSE CALLS FROM
YOUR RESOURCES.
HOW FREQUENT DO YOU HAVE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS.
HOW LONG IF YOU HAVE A MOBILE
SERVICE UNIT AS A POLICE
DEPARTMENT WOULD.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU ON
AVERAGE TO GET TO DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CALLS.
HOW MUCH LAND AREA DO YOU HAVE
TO COVER.
HOW MANY UNITS TO YOU CURRENTLY
HAVE ASSIGNED THERE.
AND SORT OF THAT INCOMING CALL
RATE PER DAY, PER HOUR BLOCKS
WITHIN THE DAY.
IF THESE ARE YOUR PARAMETERS,
THIS IS HOW LONG YOU WILL
EXPECT PEOPLE TO WAIT FOR EACH
DIFFERENT TYPE OF CALL.
T'S UP TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER OUGHTSY
THAT WORRIES ABOUT HOW LONG
PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT FOR SERVICE
TO ADJUST THOSE PARAMETERS.
WHEN WE USE THAT MODEL AS WE'VE
USED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IT
CHANGES DIFFERENT
ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE DECIDED
THAT DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF
OFFICER TIME SHOULD BE QUOTE
UNQUOTE FREE TIME.
TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY.
TO PROBLEM SOLVE.
TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.
CHIEF DIAZ MADE IT CLEAR HE
WOULD LIKE THAT AT THE 40%
RANGE.
IT'S BEEN LOWER BECAUSE OF
STAFFING CONSTRAINTS.
THAT'S A LARGE REASON WHY HE
PUSHED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE INTO
PATROL.
THE 60% THEN IS TIME ON CALLS
AND TIME HANDLING
ADMINISTRATIVE PAPERWORK.
GETTING GAS.
TALKING A BIOBREAK.
YOU BUILD THAT IN AND MODEL IT
OUT.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS ACCOUNT FOR
EVERY REALITY.
IT IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE MODEL.
THERE ARE OPERATIONAL REALITIES
THAT YOU HAVE TO LAYER INTO
THAT.
FOR US, YOU CAN SOME OF IT PUT
INTO THE MODEL AS THE CONSENT
DECREE SORT WAS FULLY SORT OF
BAKED INTO HOW THE DEPARTMENT
DOES BUSINESS.
IN MOST CASES THERE ARE NO SOLO
CALLS.
WE DON'T SEND ONE OFFICER TO
MOST CALLS FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS RECOMMENDED BY THE
MONITOR IN THE COURT AND
EXPERTS.
SO THAT INCREASES THE TIME
UNTIL YOU'RE ENGAGING THE CALL.
WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT IN.
WE HAVE SPAN OF CONTROL AND
UNITE OF COMMAND ISSUES THAT
YOU BUILD IN TO MAKE SURE YOU
HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF
SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS AND
S&P VISORS.
THE OUTSIDE OF PATROL YOU HAVE
ISSUES AROUND SQUADS AND
COVERAGE AND WHO HAS TIME OFF.
ALL THAT GETS INTO THIS MODEL.
WE LAYER IN THE OPERATIONAL AND
IT GIVES US AN ESTIMATE.
WE KNOW THAT'S ONE MODEL.
WE ALSO USE THE PERFORMANCE-
BASED APPROACH THAT MICHIGAN
STATE WORKING WITH THE COPS
OFFICE PUT OUT.
THAT ONE IS EASIER FOR US TO
ELIMINATE IN TERMS OF NO CHANGE
THINGS AROUND.
TO PREDICT WHAT DIFFERENT
PARAMETERS WOULD DO.
IF WE CHANGE THIS, HOW MANY
OFFICERS.
WHAT BOWL THE PERFORMANCE LOOK
LIKE.
IF WE CHANGE OUR GOAL
PERFORMANCE TIME.
IF IT WE DECIDED WE WERE NOT
GOING TO HAVE OFFICER DISPATCH
ANY MORE WHAT BOWL THAT DO.
IT'S EASIER FOR US TO DO THAT.
IN THAT MODEL IT'S MORE OF A
BROKEN DOWN EQUATION INSTEAD
AFTER COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT
TAKES FORMULATED FILES.
WE ALSO HAVE LOOKED AT SORT OF
WHAT I WOULD CALL BACK OF THE
ENVELOPE BECAUSE OF THAT MODEL
BEING DIFFICULT TO RERUN THERE
WERE A FEW YEARS ARE WE DID NOT
HAVE ANYBODY WITH THE TIME FROM
AN ANALYTICS STANDPOINT TO
COMPLETELY RUN THAT MODEL.
OUR PATROL COMMANDERS WERE
LOOKING AT THEIR DAILY CALL
LOAD AND ADJUSTING THEIR
MINIMUM STAFFING.
AS IS THE DESIRE OF MOST
RESEARCHERS AND ANALYSTS, WHAT
WE TRY TO DO IS TRIANGULATE.
AS IT HAPPENS TO BE, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT MODELS FROM DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVES THEY'RE IN THE
SAME BACK TO THIS ANALOGY,
WE'RE INTO THE SAME BALLPARK.
I AGREE WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ THAT THE BERKSHIRE
REPORT HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ITS
ULTIMATE UTILITY.
IT ALSO TAKING A DIFFERENT
APPROACH ABOUT HOW THEY LOOKED
AT IT.
I WASN'T HERE THEN EITHER.
THEY ALSO ENDED UP IN ABOUT THE
SAME GUIDELINE FOR THE AMOUNT
OF CALLS THAT IN COME IN TO 911
THAT OFFICES ARE DISPATCHED TO.
úHOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE NEED TO
MEET THAT 7 MINUTE STANDARD FOR
PRIORITY 1 IN PROGRESS
EMERGENCY CALLS AND THEN WE DO
HAVE OTHER GOALS FOR THE OTHER
PRIORITIES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
IN PROGRESS.
THAT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY WE
DON'T NORMALLY STRESS THE 7
MINUTE IT'S COROLLARIES AND THE
OTHER PRIORITIES AREN'T QUITE
AS DRIVEN AS IN IT PRIORITY
ONE.
WE DO TRY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ARE
WE ABLE TO HIT THOSE METRICS.
WHERE ARE WE NOT ADDRESSING IT.
THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT HOW IT
PLAYS OUT IN REALITY.
THIS YEAR COVID I THINK
PRESENTED A EXPERIMENT THAT
RESEARCHERS ACROSS MULTIPLE
FIELDS WILL BE STUDYING AND
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FOR YEARS
TO COME ABOUT WHAT IT DID TO
DATA AND THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS BEFORE THE CIVIL RIGHTS
UPRISING AND ALL OF THE
REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT IMPORTANT
COMMUNITY WORK.
JUST IN THE FEW MONTHS WHERE
COVID HAD REALLY RESTRICTED THE
CALLS THAT DEPARTMENTS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY WERE GOING TO TO
TRY TO LIMIT THAT INTERPERSONAL
CONTACT TO TRY TO SLOW DOWN ANY
SPREAD WE WERE ONE OF THOSE
DEPARTMENTS AS MOATS LARGE
úDEPARTMENTS AND SMALL
DEPARTMENTS DID, WE TRIED TO
PUSH AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO
ONLINE REPORTING AND TO
TELEPHONE REPORTING.
A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THAT GUIDE.
WHAT WE STILL SAW IS WE'VE
THAT, YES YOU HAVE TO LAYER IN
WE HAD ADDITIONAL PEOPLE OUT
BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING
QUARANTINED TO MAKE SURE WE
SLOWED THE SPREAD.
AND THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES
WERE SAFE.
EVEN WITH RESTRICTED DISPATCH
EVENTS WE WERE GOING TO VERSUS
FIELDING THROUGH THE PHONE OR
ONLINE WE WERE STILL HAVING A
AUGMENT BASED ON OUR MINIMUM
STAFFING.
THAT MINIMUM STAFFING DESIGNED
BY A PATROL COMMANDER.
MPP.
BY THE MICHIGAN STATE MODEL.
BY A TRIANGULATION OF ALL
THREE.
IT IS A MINIMUM.
THIS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE FOR
THAT SHIFT OR WATCH NOR THAT
DAY IN THAT PRECINCT, HOW MANY
OFFICERS DO YOU NEED TO HANDLE
THE CALL VOLUME, TO MEET YOUR
RESPONSE TIME GOALS AND TO HAVE
AN OFFICER BE ABLE TO STAY IN
THEIR SECTOR.
TO STAY IN THEIR BEAT.
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN WE HAVE LESS OFFICERS THAN
THAT MINIMUM STAFFING WE
AUGMENT OR IF IT THEY CAN'T GET
ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THERE'S ONE
OFFICER IN A SECTOR.
THEY ARE HAVING TO DISPATCH
ACROSS A SECTOR.
MIGHT NOT HAVE SECTOR, MIGHT
NOT STICK WITHIN THEIR SECTOR
IF THEY HAVE TO HELP OUT A
COLLEAGUE.
THAT BREAKS UP THE IDEA OF
WORKING WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND
KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR
COMMUNITY IF YOU'RE HAVING TO
RACE ACROSS BROADER BOUNDARIES
BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH
FOLKS DEPLOYED TO GET TO THE
BASIC PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY
TWO CALLS WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE
FOCUSING ON IN COVID AS SORT OF
THAT NATURAL EXPERIMENT THAT
HAPPENED BY EVERYONE CHANGING
THEIR BEHAVIORS TO SLOW THE
SPREAD.
THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT.
WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS IN
A SECOND.
AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED THERE
ARE SOME SPECIALTY UNITS.
THERE ARE SOME BEST PRACTICE
GUIDELINES.
IT'S PRETTY LIMITED.
THERE HASN'T FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS BEEN A TON OF RESEARCH
ON WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES IN
INVESTIGATIONS.
HOMICIDE GENERALLY HAS SOME
BEST PRACTICES AROUND WHAT IS
THEIR CASE LOAD.
REALLY IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE THINK
THEY SHOULD TAKE IN MAYBE 4 TO
6 NEW HOMICIDE AS YEAR.
EACH DETECTIVE, OUR DETECTIVES
IN HOMICIDE ALSO HANDLE OUR
ASSAULTS AND BIAS CRIMES SO
THERE IS NO MAGIC NUMBER FOR
THAT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY OF
THOSE SERIOUS CASES COME IN.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO SOLVE
THEM.
HOW MANY OF THEM GET CLOSED.
AND ADJUST THAT STAFFING AS
THOSE TRENDS CHANGE.
WE DO HAVE BEST PRACTICE
METRICS ON JUST SPECIFICALLY
HOMICIDE.
WE DO HAVE BEST PRACTICE
METRICS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT.
THEY'RE RECOMMENDED TO TAKE
ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 8 NEW CASES
A MONTH.
AND HOLD FOUR AT ANY ONE TIME.
THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE REALLY
TWO OF THE ONLY PLACES WE HAVE
SPECIFIC CASE LOAD.
ANYONE WORKING THAT INTERNET
CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN OR
TRAFFICKING, ANY OF THAT ONLINE
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION.
THERE AREN'T CASE LOAD GUIDES
BUT THERE ARE WORKLOAD WELLNESS
GUIDES.
THAT BRINGS WITH IT SOME
TREMENDOUS TRAUMA.
VICARIOUS, IF NOT DIRECT FROM
WHAT THEY HAVE TO SEE TO DO
THEIR INVESTIGATIONS.
SO THERE ARE WORKLOAD GUIDES
AROUND HOW OFTEN THEY NEED
BREAKS.
HOW OFTEN THEY SHOULD BE CYCLED
IN AND OUT.
WHAT THEIR BROADEST CASE LOAD
SHOULD BE BUT NOT REALLY THIS
MANY PER MONTH.
WE HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC UPTICK
IN THAT REPORTED NOT JUST IN
SEATTLE BUT NATIONALLY AS WE'VE
HAD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT SCHOOL,
WITHOUT MANDATORY REPORTERS WE
HAVE SEEN A LOT OF INCREASE IN
EXTERNAL REPORTING OR NOTICING
OF ONLINE EXPLOITATION.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING
WE'RE WATCHING.
VERY STRESSFUL AND STRANGE
UNIT.
OTHER SPECIALTY FUNCTIONS LIKE
THE SPECIAL, THE SWATH TEAM.
THERE ARE GUIDELINES FROM
NATIONAL SECURITY FROM THE
URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE.
WE GET A LOT OF FUNDING AS A
CITY AND REGION TO PROTECT THE
PORT.
THERE ARE GUIDELINES HOW MANY
PEOPLE YOU SHOULD HAVE IN THAT
SORT OF UNIT.
THAT'S WHAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN
WE TRY TO START PIECING
TOGETHER HOW MANY DO EACH OF
THESE AREAS NEED.
ANGELA, IF YOU WANT TO SKIP
AHEAD.
SO THEN WE ADD IT UP.
WHEN WE RUN THAT TRIANGULATION
FOR PATROL WE END UP WHEN YOU
DO OFFICERS, WHEN YOU DO
SERGEANTS, LIEUTENANTS,
CAPTAINS, BIKE OFFICERS, WEST
PRECINCT DOWNTOWN, PARTS OF
NORTH PRECINCT, PARTS OF THE
EAST PRECINCT BENEFIT,
ESPECIALLY AT CERTAIN TIMES A
DAY A LOT FROM HAVING OFFICERS
OUT ON BIKES.
THEY'RE MORE APPROACHABLE.
WHEN WE HAVE TRAFFIC, WHICH ONE
DAY WILL RETURN.
SMUG I THINK WE ALL ODDLY MISS.
THE BIKES GET THERE FASTER.
WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER
THAT COMES UP TO ABOUT 745
OFFICES IN PATROL TO MEET OUR
CURRENT WORKLOAD.
WE ARE NOT THERE NOW.
THE CHIEF WAS DRIVING FOR THAT
WITH HIS REALLOCATION.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE SORT OF
STRESS TESTING THIS.
THESE ARE ALL MODELS.
YOU DO NEED TO SEE HOW DOES IT
PLAY OUT IN REALITY.
WE ALSO THEN, WE DO HAVE THOSE
EXTRA POSITIONS BECAUSE WE DO
NOT SPECIFICALLY AS AN
ORGANIZATION OR AS A CITY FUND
OUR RECRUITS AND STUDENT
OFFICERS.
THEY ARE FUNDED OUT OF
UNOCCUPIED PATROL POSITIONS.
AT ANY ONE TIME WE CAN HAVE
ANYWHERE FROM 80 TO 100
STUDENTS AND RECRUITS AND SO WE
DO LEAVE PATROL POSITIONS OPEN
TO MAKE SURE WE PAY THOSE
INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR TIME
GETTING TRAINED.
THEN THAT LEAVES US IF YOU TAKE
AWAY THE 745 AND THE 100 THAT
LEAVES YOU WITH ABOUT 555
OFFICERS TO FILL OUT EVERYTHING
ELSE WE DO.
WE SORT OF THEN JUST GO DOWN IN
DESCENDING ORDER BASED ON WHERE
DO WE KNOW WE HAVE GUIDES ABOUT
HOW MANY WE NEED.
BACK TO THAT HOMICIDE AND
SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THE OTHER
SPECIALTY DETECTIVE UNITS AND
THEIR WORKLOAD.
WE FIGURE OUT WE NEED AROUND,
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO GO
THROUGH EACH NUMBER ON HERE.
YOU SEE HOW MANY WE CALCULATE
WE NEED INCREMENTAL
INVESTIGATIONS, SPECIAL
OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S
THE S.W.A.T.
TEAM, TRAFFIC, HARBOR, ARSON
BOMBS.
THEY'VE HAD A BUSY YEAR.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE
THAT YOU'LL HAVE A BUSY YEAR.
THAT'S WHY WE SOMETIMES DO ON
LOANS IF A UNIT IS GETTING
OVERWHELMED.
PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS
INCREASED A LOT.
WE HAD TO INCREASE OUR
TRAINERS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT, YOU'VE HEARD
US REFERENCE THE FIVE TIMES THE
TRAINING.
THAT'S WHERE OUR FORCE
INVESTIGATION TEAMS ARE.
COLLABORATIVE POLICING.
YOU SEE THE SMALLER WHERE THERE
ARE FEW OTHER FOLKS.
THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER
DIRECT LASHUP VISES THE SWORN
OFFICERS REQUIRED TO SIGN UP
AND TAKE THOSE ONLINE AND
TELEPHONE REPORTS.
THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THAT
NUMBER IS.
SO THAT, WE ADD ALL THOSE
TOGETHER.
THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE NUMBER
AND I BELIEVE THEN THAT MOVES
US TO ANGELA TO FINISH OUT SOME
OF THE SPECIFIC BUDGET ACTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM JUST GOING TO PAUSE HERE
VERY BRIEFLY.
I DO WANT FOLKS TO CONTINUE TO
HOLD THEIR QUESTIONS BUT GIVEN
THAT THE LAST THREE SLIDES WERE
JUST SPECIFIC TO ITEM NUMBER
ONE ON YOUR CHART, I DON'T WANT
THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE ALSO
RAISED EARLIER TO GO UNANSWERED
AS WE THEN HAVE MORE OF THE
CHART TO GO THROUGH.
SO VERY BRIEFLY I'M GOING TO
PAUSE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS HERE ON ITEM NUMBER
ONE AS ARTICULATED IN THE LAST
THREE SLIDES.
OKAY.
SORRY, DID I SEE YOUR HAND
COULD BE SILL PRESIDENT?
>> YEAH, I DO HAVE A -- JUST SO
I'M CLEAR YOU'RE ASKING FOR
QUESTIONS ON THE SWORN STAFFING
PORTIONS OF THE PRESENTATION?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HAVE
SLIDES 3, WHICH HAVE BACKUP
SLIDES ON 4, 5 AND 6.
>> RIGHT.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND
THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES.
SO JUST REALLY QUICKLY WHEN YOU
LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER 5. UM,
YEAH, I THINK AND FRANKLY THIS
IS TRUE FOR ALL THE SLIDES.
4, 5. I THINK WHAT I HEARD WERE
SOME REMARKS ABOUT YOU KNOW IF
WE GO BELOW THESE LEVELS THAN
WE HAVE TO SORT OF LIVE WITH
THE REALITIES OF THE SERVICE.
THE INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED
TO US PRESUME NO REDUCTIONS TO
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SCOPE
OF WORK.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THEY ASSUME NO REDUCTION.
THIS IS SORT OF TO THE
CONVERSATION COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD BROUGHT UP ABOUT WE
DON'T ASSUME ANY REDUCTIONS
STARTING JANUARY 1.
>> SO THIS ASSUMES THAT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE THE EXISTING SCOPE OF
WORK THAT IT HAS NOW.
>> CORRECT.
WE ANTICIPATE IT'LL TAKE SOME
TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN BE
SAFELY SHIFTED TO ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSES AND TO BUILD THAT
CAPACITY.
THEN WE COULD ADJUST.
WE WANT TO BE READY ON JANUARY
1 FOR THE CALL VOLUME WE
ANTICIPATE WOULDN'T CHANGE
UNTIL THAT WORK WAS DONE.
>> OKAY.
IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATION
RELATED TO SWORN OFFICERS, I'M
GOING TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH
WHAT I THINK I'M SEEING HERE.
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ADOPTED IN
2020 AND WHAT IS PROPOSED IN
2021.
IT'S MORE FOR CLARITY'S SAKE
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GRAPHS
AND CHARTS AND BULLET POINTS.
IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME HERE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE 2020
ADOPTED BUDGET INCLUDED 1,497
SWORN OFFICER POSITIONS.
SO TOTAL FTEs FOR 2020 ADOPTED
BUDGET WAS 1,497.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
>> OKAY.
BUT THE 2020 ADOPTED BUDGET
ONLY FUNDED 1,422 OF THOSE
SWORN OFFICER POSITIONS,
LEAVING 75 POSITIONS IN 2020
UNFUNDED AND VACANT.
CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
>> SO THEN IN 2021, PROPOSED
BUDGET WE SEE A PROPOSAL FOR AN
AGREATION OF A TOTAL OF 47 FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS FOR
SWORN OFFICERS WHICH WOULD THEN
RESULT IN IT A DECREASE OF
1,450 POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE
GRANTED TO THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
>> THE 47 GOES FROM 1497 TO
1450 AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, 1400
OF WHICH ARE FUNDED.
>> OKAY.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY LAST
QUESTION.
SO THE 2021 PROPOSED BUDGET
THEN APPEARS TO FUND 1400
POSITIONS WHICH IS ONLY 22 LESS
THAN 2020, BUT THERE ARE STILL
50 POSITIONS AUTHORIZED
POSITIONS, THERE'S 1450
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS IN THE
2021 PROPOSED BUDGET.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
WE RETAIN 50 UNFUNDED OFFICER
POSITIONS IN THE 2021 PROPOSED
BUDGET WITH THE INTENT OF
PENDING THE RESULTS OF THE WORK
THAT'S BEING DONE AS PART OF
IDT.
>> OKAY.
AND CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN BOTH
THE DATA ANALYSIS AND THE
POLICY RATIONALE FOR FUNDING
PRECISELY 1400 SWORN OFFICER
POSITIONS AND LEAVING, BUT
LEAVING 1450 AUTHORIZED
POSITIONS ON THE BOOKS?
YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
POLICY RATIONALE FOR THAT DELTA
OF 1400 VERSUS 1450.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
THANK YOU.
ANGELA.
>> YEAH.
SO I WOULD THINK OF THIS MORE
AS A RESERVE.
WE WERE RELUCTANT TO CUT ALL OF
THOSE POSITIONS UNTIL WE KNEW
THE RESULTS OF THE ON GOING
WORK.
THERE IS THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S POSITION ON WHERE
OUR STAFFING SHOULD BE.
THERE'S THE COUNCIL'S POSITION
POTENTIALLY MANY DIFFERENT
POSITIONS ON WHERE OUR STAFFING
SHOULD BE.
THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO
CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND
COLLABORATION ON WHAT THE FINAL
NUMBER SHOULD BE.
IT SEEMED INCONSEQUENTIAL TO
LEAVE POSITIONS THAT COULDN'T
BE FILLED EITHER WAY.
WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT BUDGET
FOR THOSE.
BUT THE POSITIONS REMAIN.
NO ACTION IS PLANNED FOR THOSE
POSITIONS UNTIL WE CAN, UNTIL
WE DETERMINE WHAT THE
RESULTING, DETERMINE THE
RESULTS OF THE 2021 BUDGET
PROCESS.
>> SO ANGELA, HELP ME
UNDERSTAND THAT.
IF 14 -- IF THE 50 POSITIONS
THAT ARE AUTHORIZED WERE
FUNDED, HOW MUCH MONEY, WHAT'S
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSIGNED TO
THOSE 50 POSITIONS?
>> FOR THE 50.
SORRY, JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
IT'S AROUND $7 MILLION THAT
WAS, IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THOSE
50 POSITIONS.
>> SO THOSE 50 POSITIONS THAT
ARE AUTHORIZED BUT CURRENTLY
UNFUNDED ARE WORTH $7 MILLION?
>> CORRECT.
ROUGHLY.
YEAH.
QUICK MATH.
BUT THAT'S THE BALLPARK.
>> YOUR MATH IS GOING TO BE
BETTER THAN MINE.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU THE
QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE IT.
AND UM, AND SO YOU'RE SAYING
THAT THE REASON THERE ISN'T A
COMPLETE AGGREGATION OF THOSE
97 POSITIONS, YOU'RE SAYING
THAT THE REASON THERE ISN'T A
GREAT AGGREGATION IS BECAUSE IT
MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE IDT WORK
THAT IS GOING TO BE LAUNCHED BY
THE DURKAN ADMINISTRATION.
>> I SHOULD SAY THAT'S MY
ASSUMPTION.
AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO
THE BUDGET WE DIDN'T PROPOSE.
THE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T PROPOSE
THE POSITIONS OF THE 47 AND
THEN THE, YOU KNOW, MADE THE
DECISION TO LEAVE THE 50.
IT, I WOULD SAY IT'S BECAUSE
THEY ARE UNFUNDED, YOU KNOW, TO
BE COMPLETELY HONEST I HAVEN'T
GIVEN MUCH CONSIDERATION TO
THOSE.
WE ESTABLISHED THE NEED ON THE
BASIS OF MAINTAINING THE STATUS
QUO.
WE IDENTIFIED 1400 POSITIONS
THE DELTA BETWEEN THE POSITIONS
THAT WERE AGGREGATED AND THE
POSITIONS WE WERE ADVOCATING
FOR HAPPENED TO BE 50.
THAT MAY SOUND THAT IT WAS AN
AFTERTHOUGHT, BUT THAT, I
HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CLEAR
NECESSARILY POLICY POSITION ON
WHY THE 50 WERE LEFT, WHY THEY,
YOU KNOW, WHY THEY REMAIN OTHER
THAN RESERVING SOME FLEXIBILITY
FOR US TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS
AROUND WHAT THE APPROPRIATE
SIZE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS.
>> I THINK THE INFERENCE IT
CREATES IS THAT THERE COULD --
THAT THE IDT COULD COME OUT
WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE
SHOULD GROW THE POLICE FORCE
AND THAT'S WHY THE 50 POSITIONS
SHOULD BE AGGREGATED.
IS THAT ONE OF THE POTENTIAL
OUTCOMES?
>> I CAN ABSOLUTELY SEE HOW YOU
COULD MAKE THAT INFERENCE.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT
THAT WAS THE INTENT OF LEAVING
THE 50.
IT WASN'T MY CHANGE REQUEST
THAT WAS DEVELOPED.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF
OF THE EXECUTIVE AND HOW THAT
CAME TO BE.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IS A FAIR
INFERENCE.
>> COULD, AND I JUST WANT TO BE
REALLY CLEAR THAT IF THE, IF
THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED TO
ELIMINATE THE 50 POSITION, THE
50 ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZED BUT
UNFUNDED POSITIONS, THAT WOULD
NOT HAVE ANY BUDGET
IMPLICATIONS ON THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT; IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IF THE ADDITIONAL 50 WERE
AGGREGATED THERE WOULD BE NO
EFFECT TO OUR STAFFING.
THERE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE
ADDITIONAL BUDGET SAVINGS AND
IT SHOULDN'T HAVE OPERATIONAL
IMPACT.
S ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT AS
CHRIS MENTIONED OUR STUDENT
OFFICERS AND OUR RECRUITS ARE
NOT FUNDED SO A PORTION OF THE
1400 GOES TOWARDS AROUND 80 TO
100 POSITIONS GO TOWARDS OUR
OCCUPIED BY THOSE RECRUITS AND
STUDENT OFFICERS WHO ARE NOT
DEPLOYABLE.
THAT IS A FACTOR HERE.
AND AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES,
ALL OF OUR POSITIONS ARE, THE
FUNDED LEVEL IS IN THE BUDGET
FOR ALL OF OUR POSITIONS IS PRO
RATED BASED ON ANTICIPATED
ATTRITION AND HIRING.
>> BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT
THE 80 TO 100 TRAINEE POSITIONS
FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM ARE
CAPTURED BY THE 50 UNFUNDED.
>> NO.
>> UNAUTHORIZED, UNFUNDED
POSITIONS.
>> NO, NO, NO.
SORRY.
THAT WAS PROBABLY CONFUSING.
>> WE'RE CREATING A LITTLE BIT
OF CONFUSION THERE.
WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT
THE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO
RECRUITS, THAT IS INCLUDED IN
THE BASE NUMBER OF 1400 SWORN
OFFICERS THAT'S BAKED INTO THE
STAFFING MODEL.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
SO I'M VERY.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 50
ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT ARE
INCLUDED IN THIS MAYOR'S
PROPOSED 2021 BUDGET THAT ARE
BASICALLY BEING HELD,
PRESERVED, EVEN THOUGH THERE
ARE NO REAL DOLLARS ATTACHED TO
THEM.
THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME DAY
FUNDING THOSE POSITIONS IS
PRESERVED BY VIRTUE OF NOT
AGGREGATING THOSE AUTHORIZED
BUT UNFUNDED SLOTS FOR SWORN
OFFICER POSITIONS.
>> UH-HUH.
>> IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IF I MIGHT.
>> GO AHEAD, BEN.
>> CONSISTENT WITH THE
DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THE
PAST FEW WEEKS AS WE WERE
WORKING ON ISSUES RELATED TO
SPD AND BUDGET.
THESE VACANT POSITIONS ARE NOT
ESSENTIAL TO THE BUDGET AND CAN
BE ELIMINATED.
THERE IS A VERY LONG
BUREAUCRATIC PROS INVOLVED WITH
CREATING POSITIONS THAT MAY
HAVE BEEN THE REASON TO PROVIDE
TO AVOID ELIMINATING THEM ALL.
AGAIN, WE SEPARATELY
COMMUNICATED THEY'RE NOT
ESSENTIAL AND WE DON'T EXPECT
AND WON'T HAVE RESOURCES TO
HIRE INTO THEM.
SO HONESTLY, A NONISSUE AT SOME
LEVEL AND I ONLY SAY THAT
BECAUSE THERE ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR US TO WORK
ON.
BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO CLARIFY
THE EXPECTATIONS ON THAT POINT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO TRIVIALIZE
IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A MAJOR
POINT, IF IT YOU WILL.
BUT I RECOGNIZE THE POSITION OF
AUTHORITY IS AN IMPORTANT
ASPECT OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS
OVERALL.
>> THANK YOU FOR SAYING YOU'RE
NOT TRYING TO TRIVIALIZING
WHILE TRIVIALIZING IT, DR.
NOBLE.
I'M GOING TO FINISH MY LINE OF
QUESTIONING HERE.
I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR
THAT THESE ADDITIONAL 50
POSITIONS DON'T HAVE ANY
SERVICE.
THERE WOULD NOT BE SERVICE
IMPACTS OR BUDGET IMPACTS ONE
WAY OR THE OTHER.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
YEAH.
WE, THESE WERE, THESE SAME
POSITIONS WERE INCLUDED IN THIS
THE COMPROMISED BILL.
WE WERE FULLY PREPARED TO
RELINQUISH THOSE POSITIONS.
>> I RECOGNIZE THEY WERE
INCLUDED IN THE COMPROMISE BILL
BUT THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN
THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS
TRANSMITTED BY THE MAYOR;
CORRECT?
>> YEAH.
THE BUDGET HAD ALREADY BEEN
DRAFTED.
>> REALLY QUICKLY ON THE ISSUE
OF THE STAFFING MODELS AGAIN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPOSED
BUDGET AND STAFFING MODEL
PROJECTS NEW RECRUITMENT AND
HIRING ACTIVITIES IN 2021 BASED
ON JUST MY INITIAL REVIEW OF
THE PRESENTATION AND THE
DOCUMENTS.
MY READING OF THE PROPOSED
BUDGET HERE AND THE STAFFING
MODEL PROJECTIONS IS THAT THERE
WILL BE ADDITIONAL RECRUITMENT
AND HIRING ACTIVITIES IN 2021
AND I'M, AND IF THAT IS TRUE,
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO
RECONCILE THOSE RECRUITMENT AND
HIRING ACTIVITIES PROPOSED FOR
2021 WITH THE PLANS TO
REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
BEGIN THE PROCESS OF SHIFTING
TO HARM REDUCTION COMMUNITY
MODELS OF SAFETY.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE A QUESTION
FOR YOU, ANGELA.
BUT I'M, WHOEVER FROM SPD OR
THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE WANTS TO
ANSWER IS FINE.
>> I CAN TAKE A SWING AT IT.
TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOME OF THE
CHIEF'S POINTS, AT THIS POINT
THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS
AROUND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT A
REENVISIONED POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE CONCERNED AT
THE RATE IN WHICH WE ARE LOSING
SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.
WE HAVE HAD A HIRING FREEZE IN
PLACE SINCE MID 2020.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO SEPARATE
EMPLOYEES THAT 1400 NUMBER THAT
WE'RE CURRENTLY STAFFED AT IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TO DECREASE.
LEAVING US IN A SITUATION WHERE
WE'RE, WE ARE OPERATING AT
POTENTIALLY MUCH LESS THAN
THAT.
GOING INTO 2021 IF WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE
OF CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS THE
1400 IS NEEDED AND THAT'S GOING
TO REQUIRE US TO RECRUIT, HIRE
AND TRAIN NEW POLICE
CANDIDATES.
THAT SAID, I MEAN IF DEPENDING
ON THE EXPEDIENCY AT WHICH WE
CAN ESTABLISH ALTERNATIVES AND,
YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT'S NOT
NECESSARY.
AT THIS POINT WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WITH THAT LEVEL OF UNCERTAINTY
WE FEEL IT'S PRUDENT TO BACK
FILL FOR SOME OF THE ATTRITION.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GROWING
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN 2021.
WHAT THE STAFFING MODEL DEPICTS
AND WHAT'S INCLUDED IS PURELY
THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR CURRENT
STAFFING LEVEL.
>> SO HOW MANY OF THE 1400
POSITIONS ARE ASSUMED TO BE
NECESSARY FOR BACK FILLING OF
ATTRITION?
>> SO AS FAR AS, I MEAN, SO
YOU'RE ASKING HOW MANY WE WOULD
NEED TO HIRE IN ORDER TO BACK
FILL FOR ATTRITION?
>> SORRY.
I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE, THAT
THIS PROJECT DOES PROPOSE
RECRUITMENT AND HIRING
ACTIVITIES IN 2021.
HOWEVER, THOSE ACTIVITIES WILL
BE LIMITED TO BACK FILLING FOR
THE ANTICIPATED ATTRITION.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
CEILING WILL BE 1400.
SO YOU WILL NOT BE HIRING MORE
THAN 1400 IN ANY SITUATION.
SO OF THE 1400 SWORN OFFICERS
THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED
IN THE 2021 BUDGET.
HOW MANY OF THOSE 1400
POSITIONS ARE ASSUMED WILL BE
FOR PURPOSES OF BACK FILLING
FOR BACK FILLING ATTRITION.
>> WE'RE ANTICIPATING AROUND 80
SEPARATIONS NEXT YEAR OF FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS.
IF WE WERE TO HIRE WE ALWAYS
BUILD IN A BUFFER FOR ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, FOR A HANDFUL OF
RECRUITS AND STUDENT OFFICERS
TO SEPARATE AS WELL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE, WE WOULD
HAVE TO BACK FILL FOR ABOUT 90
SEPARATING EMPLOYEES IN ORDER
TO MAINTAIN OUR 1400.
THAT STAFFING LEVEL OF THAT
1400.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT'S HELPFUL.
>> AND THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR
THE SEPARATIONS THAT WE'LL
CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE.
AGAIN, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 1400
THROUGH THE REMAINING THREE
MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
I ANTICIPATE WE WILL CONTINUE
TO LOSE OFFICERS AND SO THAT
WILL CERTAINLY BE A FACTOR.
WE'VE TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT
IN THE STAFFING MODEL.
AGAIN, IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO
OUR BEST TO ANTICIPATE WHAT
ATTRITION IS.
IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY IF THERE
IS THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL SAVINGS THAT COULD
BE REALIZED THROUGH THAT
EXERCISE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS.
I KNOW WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING A
LOT ABOUT THE STAFFING MODEL
ISSUES AND I'M SURE THERE WILL
BE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW
UP AND AGAIN I APPRECIATE YOUR,
YOUR, YOUR ANSWERS TO MY
QUESTIONS HERE.
THANK YOU.
>> IF I COULD JUST QUICKLY ADD
SOME POLICY CONNECT FOR THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT ON THIS
POINT.
WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CONTINUE THE INFLUX OF NEW
OFFICERS AS THE RECRUITS IN
PAST YEARS HAVE BEEN FAR MORE
DIVERSE.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT INFLUX
OF NEW, YOUNGER, DIVERSE
OFFICERS AS WELL.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE BEHIND OUR DESIRE
TO KEEP HIRING AS WELL.
>> YOU MIGHT WANT TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD SINCE I
DON'T THINK YOU HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
SO THAT VIEWING MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC AND MAYBE SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES WOULD BENEFIT FROM
THAT CONTEXT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
MY NAME IS JULIE CLINE.
I'M THE MAYOR'S PUBLIC SAFETY
ADVISOR.
THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE
POLICY CONTEXT THERE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VICE CHAIR HERBOLD.
I WANT TO JUST SAY SAY AS A REL
TO
AGGREGATION OF POSITIONS,
WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD IT WOR
EFFORTS TO COME UP WITH A
COMPROMISE TO THE COUNCILS 2021
BUDGET, IT HAD BEEN VETOED.
THE FULL AGGREGATION OF ALL 97
POSITIONS WAS ON THE TABLE, THE
EXECUTIVE DID NOT OBJECT.
I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THAT
IT MAY LOOK LIKE WE ARE
SIGNALING OUR INTENT TO HIRE
1450.
BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, MY
UNDERSTANDING, THERE WASN'T AN
OBJECTION TO THE FULL
AGGREGATION OF THOSE POSITIONS,
I ALSO WANT TO RE-ASK, ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS I'VE BEEN ASKING
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SOME
TIME.
THE ANTICIPATED, ESTIMATED, AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR,
SEPARATIONS FOR 2020.
WERE I THINK 92 OFFICERS. WE
ARE HEARING SORT OF ANECDOTALLY,
WE HAVE REASONS TO EXPECT THE
ACTUAL SEPARATIONS ARE MUCH
GREATER THAN THAT.
WHEN I TALKED TO CHIEF DIAZ
COUPLE DAYS AGO HE CONFIRMED
FOR ME WE HAVE NOT YET REACHED
THE 92 NUMBERS. BUT WE DO
EXPECT TO EXCEED IT.
I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND,
WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE LOOKING
AT A MUCH LARGER NUMBER OR A
SLIGHTLY LARGER NUMBER.
IN THE CONTEXT.
I KNOW THIS CANNOT BE EXACT.
BUT I'VE ASKED FOR AND I WOULD
STILL LIKE, A REVISED 2020
ESTIMATE FOR SEPARATIONS THIS
YEAR.
LASTLY AS A RELATES TO THIS
CONVERSATION AROUND THE
EXECUTIVES, SUPPORT FOR IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPORT
FORECAST WE'VE HEARD TODAY
ALREADY, TO ADDRESS WORKLOAD,
GIVEN THE WORKLOAD IS SOME OF
THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS, FOR
STAFFING.
AND OUR SHARED DESIRE TO SEE
HOW WE CAN SHRINK THE WORKLOAD.
AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT ANGELA
HAS AGREED IT IS POSSIBLE TO
BAKE INTO OUR BUDGET.
ELEMENTS OF OUR PLAN, WHICH CAN
INCLUDE SHRINKING THE WORKLOAD.
MY INTEREST IN DOING SO, WITHIN
THE CONTEXT OF NEXT YEAR'S
BUDGET, BAKING IN FURTHER
REDUCTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
REDUCTIONS IN WORKLOAD.
I WANT TO LIFT UP AGAIN, OUR
ABILITY TO DO SO.
WE ALL AGREE, IS ALL ABOUT
HAVING A PLAN.
EXECUTING THE PLAN, IN ORDER TO
EXECUTE IT WE HAVE TO WORK TO
BUILD CAPACITY.
AMONG OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS.
AND THE COUNCIL IN ITS 2020
REBALANCING, EARMARKED $10
MILLION FOR CAPACITY FOR JUST
THOSE PROGRAMS AND AGENCIES WHO
WILL CARRY OUT THESE EXPANDED
SAFETY-RELATED EFFORTS.
I APPRECIATE RECEIVING THE
LETTER FROM THE DEPUTY MAYOR
YESTERDAY AND LETTING US KNOW
DIRECTOR JOHNSON WILL BEGIN, A
PROCESS TO DEVELOP THIS RFP.
BECAUSE THIS FUNDING WAS
PROVISO, THEY WILL BEARING AN
ORGANISM FORWARD FOR COUNCIL
CONSIDERATION RELEASING THE
DAUGHTER CAUGHT THE DOLLARS FOR
ALLOCATION.
I FIND IT UNACCEPTABLE THAT IT
APPEARS THAT THIS CANNOT HAPPEN
WITHIN, DURING THIS YEAR BECAUSE
OF THE REFUSAL TO EXECUTE THE
INTERFUND LOAN.
IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DEVELOP
THIS RFP, AND ACT ON THE
ORDINANCE.
WHILE WE ARE IN BUDGET THIS YEAR
. AGAIN, SO WE CAN GET THE
DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR AND BUILD
THE CAPACITY AMONG THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS WHO WILL BE
POISED TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE
WORKLOAD.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM
THE DIRECTOR OF WHETHER THAT IS
POSSIBLE TO DO, ACTING ON THE
ORDINANCE DURING BRIDGET BUDGET
PROCESSES RELATED TO THE RFP
PRESENT LET ME CLARIFY.
I THINK THERE IS A
MISUNDERSTANDING.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE
TECHNICALLY NECESSARY,
INTERFUND LOANS, DON'T HAVE
SPECIFIC BALANCE IN THE FUNDS
THAT WILL BE CALLED UPON.
THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL,
HE INDICATED IN THE
PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, THERE
IS A FUND BALANCE LEAVING 2020
WEST.
GIVEN THAT, WE MAY NOT, WE
DON'T TECHNICALLY NEED THE
INTERFUND LOAN.
IT COMES DOWN TO A QUESTION OF
WHAT SHARE OF THE $14 MILLION
TO USE GOT TO GET OUT THE DOOR
BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE INTENT IS TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THIS RFP PROCESS. AS WE
SPEAK.
AND ISSUE IT, WHETHER WE ARE
ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL OF IT AND
MAKE THE ORIGIN, A REIMBURSABLE
BASIS.
I TELL YOU THIS TO UNDERSTAND
THE INNER FOREARM LOOK LOAN
PIECE EXPECTATION IS TO MOVE
FORWARD.
WHAT I HAVE TO SAY CUT THE
BUDGET FOR 2021 DOESN'T
ANTICIPATE THAT WE SUBMITTED
YOU, IT DOESN'T ANTICIPATE
PAYING THE LOAN. OR REPAINT
DOESN'T ANTICIPATE THE COST.
SO IF WE USE THE FUND BALANCE
IN 2020, THE 2021 BUDGET, WE
SUBMITTED TO YOU WILL BE OUT OF
BALANCE.
COUNCIL INDICATED THE INTENT
WAS TO FIND THE SAVINGS IN
2021 TO REPAY THE COSTS.
THAT WOULD STILL BE NECESSARY.
THAT IS ENTIRELY THE PURVIEW OF
COUNCIL AND APPROPRIATE TO THE
CONTEXT OF THE BUDGET AND THE
WORK YOU ARE DOING.
SO WE ARE TAKING AS DIRECTED IF
YOU WILL, IN A POSITIVE SENSE,
MOVING FORWARD, THAT WILL REDUCE
TOTAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR
2021 AND REQUIRE SOME
REDUCTIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS
ACCORDINGLY.
AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU
, OR PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW
MUCH WE EXPECT TO GET OUT.
ALSO ULTIMATELY $24 MILLION AND
IT'S NOT SPENT IN 2020 IT IS
SPENT IN 2021.
THAT IS EXPECTATION, FASTER
MOVING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU DIRECTOR.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, A
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION OR COMMENT?
I'M I'M GOOD, I MAY HAVE A
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AS I MULL
OVER THE BUDGET DIRECTOR'S
RESPONSE BUT I APPRECIATE THAT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES I WILL
FOLLOW-UP IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME
THE GRACE ON SECTION.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER YOU
PROVIDED, I APPRECIATE THE
CLARIFICATION.
IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH
AMERICA MY UNDERSTANDING WAS
THE USE OF THE INTERFUND LOAN
WAS NOT PROBLEMATIC.
PRIOR TO LAST WEEK. AND I
GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IT
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE IS AN
OBJECTION TO SPENDING THE 14
MILLION IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE
WAS A COMMITMENT TO SPENDING AT
LEAST FOUR AND THE REMAINING 10
MILLION THAT WAS CONCERNING, AS
COUNCILMEMBERS WERE
ARTICULATING, OUR CONCERN WAS
THE 10 MILLION WAS NOT ACTUALLY
GOING TO BE ALLOCATED.
ARE YOU SAYING IT WILL BE
ALLOCATED BY THE CONCERN IS
AROUND PROCESS FOR THE RFP AND
HOW QUICKLY IT CAN BE DONE?
THE $4 MILLION INTENT, AS I
UNDERSTAND, HIS EXISTING
CONTRACTORS.
WE HAVE AGENCIES IN THE SPACE.
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT
QUICKLY.
THE $10 MILLION WE WERE AWARDED
BY AN RFP CUT RFP IS BEING
DEVELOPED AND WILL BE ISSUED,
SOMETIMES FOR FOLKS TO RESPOND.
IT IS JUST A QUESTION OF
WHETHER THAT WILL ALL HAPPEN BY
YEAR END.
LIKELY CUT THE DECISION-MAKING,
WHETHER THE DOLLARS ARE SPENT
BY EAR AND.
IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION, NOT FOR
LACK OF INTEREST.
AND INTERFUND LOAN, IS A
TECHNICAL ONE.
WE DO NOT NEED THE MONEY, DO
ALL $14 MILLION, ARE THEY
AVAILABLE THIS YEAR?
ARE THEY SPENT THIS YEAR?
WE HAVE SOME CASH RESERVES, AS
I INDICATED IN THE PRESENTATION
YESTERDAY, GIVEN THE CASH IS
RESERVES EXIST WE MAY NOT NEED
TO DO THE INTERFUND LOAN.
THAT IS NOT THE CRITICAL POLICY
ISSUE, THE CRITICAL POLICY
ISSUE IS WE WILL MOVE FORWARD
QUICKLY ON THE $4 MILLION.
THIS IS THE PROCESSING THAT WE
CAN MOVE QUICKLY ON THAT.
WE INITIATED RFP PROCESS FOR
THE $10 MILLION AND WE WILL DO
THAT EXPEDIENTLY.
TO BE CAREFUL WILL TAKE A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
>>> YESTERDAY WE DID HAVE A
CONVERSATION, TRYING TO CLARIFY
THE COUNCIL HAD NOT SPENT DOWN
ALL THE RESERVE FUNDS.
I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
POLICY DECISION WE MADE TO USE
THE INTERFUND LOAN RECOGNIZING
THE MONEY WAS NOT BEING USED
AND WAS NOT GOING TO PUT OTHER
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN
JEOPARDY, THAT WOULD ALLOW US
TO MAINTAIN DOLLARS IN THE
RESERVE.
I WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU, AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WHO
ASKED THE QUESTION CUT TO
CONFIRM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
$10 MILLION IS POP AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT GETS TO THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS
EARLIER, ABOUT WHY THE 1400
POSITIONS HAD BEEN MAINTAIN
WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
COULDN'T GET SCALED UP IN THE
DOLLARS WERE NOT GOING OUT THE
DOOR.
IF WE CAN GET THE DOLLARS OUT
THE DOOR AND BEGIN SCALING UP,
WE CAN REALIZE MORE OF THE
REDUCTIONS OR SAVINGS AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ALLUDED
TO IN THE BUDGET AND THAT CAN
BE REFLECTED IN THE 2020 BUDGET.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES TO WRAP
US UP ON THIS FIRST ITEM AND
THEN WE'LL GET THROUGH THE REST
OF THE CHART.
>>> I AM LOOKING AT SLIDE FOUR.
IF WE COULD GO BACK JUST A
MINUTE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM
UNDERSTANDING THE POINT YOU ARE
TRYING TO MAKE HERE.
I KNOW, WHILE THE FTES MAY HAVE
INCREASED BY 5%, THE OVERALL
BUDGET HAS INCREASED IN THE
LAST FIVE YEARS BY 36% OR SO.
EVEN THOUGH, WHICH IS
SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER THAN OUR
POPULATION GROWTH.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTAND THAT WITH MORE
SPECIFICITY WHERE THE INCREASE
IS COMING FROM.
IS IT JUST OFFICER PAY,
OVERTIME, THE EQUIPMENT, GROWTH,
OVER THE LAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS.
IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT FOR
ME PLEASE.
>> I WOULD SAY, I DIDN'T WANT
TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS FROM
THIS YEAR YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED
AT A GREATER PERCENTAGE THAN
THE POPULATION.
WHAT I'VE HEARD MENTIONED
MULTIPLE TIMES NOW, THERE IS
THIS CORRELATION MADE BETWEEN
THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS
WE HAVE HAD OR HOW THE NUMBER
HAS GROWN OVER TIME.
AND THEN IT IS MEASURED AGAINST
THE CRIME STATISTICS AND
WHETHER CRIME HAS GONE UP OR
DOWN AND TRY TO MAKE A
CORRELATION BETWEEN THE
EXISTENCE OF A CERTAIN NUMBER
OF POLICE OFFICERS AND HOW THAT
MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT CRIME.
AS FAR AS THE BUDGET INCREASE
GOES, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF
THAT WILL BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO
THE COST OF OUR PERSONNEL.
THIS CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED
AT THE END OF 2018.
IT INCREASED, INCLUDED ANNUAL
WAGE INCREASES, UP TO 16%.
THE COST OF OUR OFFICERS
INCREASE BY 16% OVER THAT
PERIOD OF TIME.
THE AWI CONTINUED, EACH YEAR
THERE WAS AN INCREASE.
ADDITIONAL INCREASES.
AND SO, THAT IS THE PRIMARY
FACTOR FOR THE BUDGET INCREASE,
ALONG WITH THAT, PLEASE
>>> I'M SORRY CAN I STOP YOU
FOR A MINUTE.
DID YOU SAY EVERY YEAR WE GO UP
16%?
>>> NO, SORRY THAT WAS A
CUMULATIVE INCREASE.
THE CONTRACT SIGNING WAS
DELAYED.
WE HAD AN EXPIRED CONTRACT FOR
MANY YEARS.
THERE WAS A LUMP SUM PAYMENT
FOR THE RETRO, FOR THAT 16%,
AND GOING FORWARD, WE GOT ONTO
THE REGULAR CADENCE OF THE
ANNUAL WAGE INCREASES WHICH IS
STANDARD.
SO YOU WILL SEE WITHIN THE
INCREASE, THE INCREASED COST OF
INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, THE NEED
FOR YOU KNOW, OUR EQUIPMENT
BUDGET HASN'T ACTUALLY
INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER
THAT TIMEFRAME.
IT IS A SMALL PORTION OF OUR
BUDGET.
I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EXPLANATIONS,
BUT THE MAIN ANSWER, THE MAIN
REASON WILL BE THE SIGNIFICANT
INCREASE IN THE COST OF A
POLICE OFFICER.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MARIAH ELLIS
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> Reporter: I UNDERSTAND YOU
ABOUT CLARIFYING POINT TO MAKE
CHRIS AND I DO ACCOUNT WITH
REGARDS TO THE PROCESSOR ON THE
14 MILLION, I WAS REMINDED BY
MY STAFF, ADAM SHAVER THANK
YOU.
THERE IS A PROVISO, ON THAT $10
MILLION.
ONCE YOU MOVE THROUGH THE RFP
PROCESS, WE NEED TO DISCUSS
WITH YOU AT WHAT POINT IN THE
WORD PROCESS YOU WANT TO PROVIDE
THE ADDITIONAL LEGAL AUTHORITY
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
SPENDING OF THE MONEY.
AS WRITTEN IT REQUIRES AN
ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE
NEED TO CHORDATE ON THAT.
I WOULD UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT
LEVEL IF INFORMATION, WE CAN
RUN WITH RFP PROCESS AND BRING
A POTENTIAL LIST OF AWARDEES OR
SOMETHING.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SLOW US
DOWN, I JUST NEED, I WANT TO
REMIND YOU ABOUT THAT KEY STEP.
>> THANK YOU DR. NOBLE.
ICR BUDGET LEAD ALLEY CUT WOULD
YOU LIKE TO OFFER CLARIFYING
POINTS ON THE 14 MILLION
DISCUSSED?
>> Reporter: SURE.
THANK YOU.
I AM ALLEY WITH THE TENANT
CENTRAL STAFF FOR THE RECORD TO
CLARIFY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
COUNCIL AUTHORIZED INCOMES
ABOUT 11963, THE INTERFUND LOAN
TO SUPPORT THE $10 MILLION
INVESTMENT, PLUS A LARGE
PORTION OF THE $4 MILLION
INVESTMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED
IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE.
THE INTERFUND LOAN BILL,
PROVIDED TWO OPTIONS FOR HOW
THE LOAN COULD BE REPAID.
IT WAS INTENDED WITH SAVINGS
FROM SPD, AS DESCRIBED IN
RESOLUTION 31962.
AT THE ANTICIPATED SAVINGS THAT
WOULD'VE BEEN STEM NEED FROM
THOSE ASSUMES SAVINGS WERE NOT
SUFFICIENT, AND THE COUNCIL
PROVIDED LANGUAGE TO SAY THE
REVENUE GENERATED FOR THEM
JUMPSTART TAX COULD BE USED TO
PAY BACK THE LOAN.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THE
COUNCIL DID PROVIDE TO MAX
APPROACHES FOR PAYING BACK THE
LOAN.
THE JUMPSTART MONEY IN THE
MAYOR'S SURPLUS BUDGET WAS
PROGRAMMED FOR OTHER USES AND
SAVINGS REQUESTED IN THAT
RESOLUTION ARE NOT A NEED FOR
THE BUDGET.
>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
I HAVE ONE MORE NOTE ON THE
SLIDE.
THANK YOU FOR WALKING THROUGH
THE SLIDE.
TO THE TEAM, I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS.
I WANT TO NOTE, ON THE LAST A
BULLET HERE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT YES, THE POPULATION
GREW IN SEATTLE OVER THE LAST
DECADE. ACCORDING TO THE DATA
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT I POSTED
AS WELL, THE SPD PER CAPITA
SPENDING INCREASED 20% IN THAT
SAME TIMEFRAME.
IN 20 $20, THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS
PER CAPITA WENT FROM $443 IN
2012, TO $530 THIS BUDGET YEAR.
A 20% INCREASE IN EIGHT YEARS
FOR THE PER CAPITA SPENDING.
I JUST WANT TO JUXTAPOSE THAT
WITH THE GROWTH AND POPULATION
AND MAKE SURE, IT IS NOT CUT
THE TAKE AWAY ISN'T DOLLARS PER
INDIVIDUAL HAVE GONE DOWN, IN
FACT DOLLARS HAVE INCREASED,
EVEN AS THE POPULATION HAS
INCREASED.
I WANT TO OFFER THAT POINT OF
CLARIFICATION.
>>> FOLKS, WE HAVE 42 MINUTES.
WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR SLIDES LEFT
TO GO.
WE HAVE THINGS TO THE DIRECTOR
ON THE TEAM, WE WILL HOLD SLIDES
12 AND 13, WHICH ARE GOOD LEAVE
WAYS INTO THIS AFTERNOON'S
PRESENTATION ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE ARE GOING TO ENDEAVOR TO GET
THROUGH ITEMS TO MAX THROUGH
NINE, WHICH ARE COVERED IN
SLIDES SEVEN THROUGH 11.
I THINK WE CAN DO IT.
WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, I WILL
ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE HOLD YOUR
QUESTIONS.
WE WILL GET THROUGH ANY
QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN ON THESE
LAST CUT REALLY IMPORTANT HIGH-
LEVEL PIECES BEING PULLED OUT
BY SPD FOR OUR DISCUSSION THIS
MORNING AND THEN I WILL ASK IF
THERE ARE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE
ADJOURN SESSION 1. WITHOUT
FURTHER ADO AND INTERRUPTIONS,
ANGELA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
ANGELA SOCCI I WILL TURN IT
OVER TO YOU TO TAKE IT AWAY ON
ITEM NUMBER TWO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I AM GOING TO PROBABLY MOVE
THROUGH THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY
AND LESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
MANY OF THESE ITEMS WERE DRIVEN
BY THE EXECUTIVES.
I RELY ON JULIE TO SPEAK TO
POLICY DECISIONS INVOLVED.
WHILE SPD COOPERATED IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE REQUEST THEY
DIDN'T NECESSARILY ORIGINATE.
IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
I WOULD SAY IT MOSTLY DRIVEN BY
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
I WILL WALK THROUGH EACH OF
THESE BUT FEEL FREE TO RAISE
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO COVERS THE
TRANSFER OF THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT OPERATION TO
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
THIS WILL INCLUDE A TRANSFER OF
120 FTE, FOR A TOTAL OF $14.1
MILLION.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE
IDENTIFIED $800,000 IN OVERTIME,
THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING AS WELL
, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IT IS
ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT PARKING
ENFORCEMENT HAS EXPENDED ON
SPECIAL EVENTS, ON SPECIAL
EVENTS IN THE CITY.
I BELIEVE IT IS A TWO OR THREE-
YEAR AVERAGE THAT WAS USED TO
ESTABLISH THAT BUDGET TRANSFER
AMOUNT. THERE IS AN
UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN SPD, SDOT
AND THE SPECIAL EVENTS OFFICE
WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO COORDINATE THE
APPOINTMENT OF PARKING
ENFORCEMENT TO EVENTS THAT ARE
STAFFED BY SPD.
THIS TOPIC IS INCLUDED AS PART
OF THE, WE HAVE PLANNED A
FUTURE ANALYSIS ON HOW, AS A
CITY THAT WE CAN BETTER STAFF
SPECIAL EVENTS.
WE ARE LOOKING INTO ALTERNATIVE
STAFFING MODELS AND METHODS IN
MILLIONS OF MEETING THAT DEMAND.
THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING EFFORT
AS PART OF THE WORK THAT IS
BEING CONVENED.
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
ANGELA THIS IS JULIE.
TO ANSWER COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
IS QUESTION, THAT INVOLVES
IDENTIFYING PLACES, CITY CODE
AND POTENTIALLY STATE LOT MAY
NEED ANY CHANGES TO MAKE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
FULLY ABLE AND CAPABLE OF DOING
SPECIAL EVENTS, TRAFFIC
DIRECTION.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM FOR
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD , THAT IS
PART OF OUR WORK IN THE SPACE.
SORRY.
MOVING ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER
FOUR, THE TRANSFER THE OFFICES
OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO A
NEW INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT.
THIS GROUP HAS ALREADY BEEN
ACTING INDEPENDENTLY FOR THE
MOST PART, THEY HAVE EXISTED
WITHIN THE SPD BUDGET.
WE SUPPORTED THEM.
FROM A BUDGET, H.R.
PHYSICAL STANDPOINT.
AS FAR AS THE DAY-TO-DAY
OPERATION GOES, THIS GROUP IS
LARGELY INDEPENDENT.
THERE BUDGET TRANSFER, CREATES
A $2.5 MILLION BEING REDUCED,
OR TRANSFERRED OUT OF SPD'S
BUDGET, AND FTE CHANGE OF 14.0
CIVILIAN PERSONNEL.
I'M IN NUMBER FIVE IS THE
TRANSFER OF THE 911 CALL CENTER
TO A NEW, INDEPENDENT
DEPARTMENT.
THE TRANSFER AMOUNT IS $18.2
MILLION.
THERE'S A TOTAL FTE CHANGE OF
100 AND $40 MILLION, PER
CIVILIAN PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY
THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED OUT TO
CREATE THE NEW SEATTLE
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER.
WE FELT THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT
MOVE TO SET UP, OR TO PAVE THE
WAY FOR THE CONTEMPLATION OF
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE MODELS, TO
EMERGENCY AND PUBLIC CALLS FOR
SERVICE. POTENTIALLY IN THE
FUTURE, BRANCHING OUT FROM THE
STRICTLY EMERGENCY TO MORE OF A
ROLLING IN THE GENERAL
NONEMERGENCY TYPE CALLS AS WELL.
OR ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TYPE
CALLS, OR CALLS THAT WERE NOT
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE.
JULIE, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT
TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AS WELL?
WHAT YOU ACTUALLY COVERED THE
POLICY RATIONALE BEHIND THAT.
THE FIRST STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION OF BEING ABLE TO ADD
AND CIVILIAN RESPONSES TO 911
CALLS FOR HELP.
ONCE WE DETERMINE PUBLIC
CONSENSUS ON WHAT PEOPLE WOULD
LIKE THAT TO LOOK LIKE.
>>> THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER SIX.
WITH THE TRANSFER OF THESE
FUNCTIONS OUTSIDE SPD, THERE
WAS A RECOGNITION, THAT THEY
WERE ENJOYING BACK OF HOUSE
SUPPORT BY BELONGING TO A
LARGER DEPARTMENT.
WE WORKED WITH CBO TO DEVELOP
AND IDENTIFY FUNDING TO TRANSFER
TO EITHER THE RECEIVING
DEPARTMENTS OR EMBED IN THE NEW
DEPARTMENT'S POSITIONS TO
SUPPORT THE DAY-TO-DAY
ADMINISTRATIVE WORK. AGAIN,
UNITS LIKE THE SPD BUDGET
SECTION, FISCAL H.R., WE WERE
SUPPORTING PRIOR TO A TRANSFER.
THIS WAS BASED ON PERCENTAGES
AND PROPORTIONS OF OUR CURRENT
OVERHEAD FUNCTIONS AND HOW THAT
FIT IN TO THE TRANSFER,
PROPORTIONATELY TO WHAT WE WERE
CURRENTLY SUPPORTING.
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THIS ITEM BUILDS INTO THE
BUDGET, THE TRANSFER OF NINE
VICTIM ADVOCATES, VICTIM
SUPPORT TEAM, PROGRAM MANAGER
AND HER VICTIM SUPPORT TEAM
VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS COORDINATOR
FROM SPD TO THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT.
COUNCIL INCLUDED THIS ITEM IN
THE Q2 SUPPLEMENTAL.
WE WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THIS
INTO THE BUDGET IN 2021 AS AN
ONGOING ITEM.
WE ARE WORKING WITH HSD TO
TRANSFER THE EMPLOYEE SKY
BELIEVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS
SEPTEMBER FIRST.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK
THROUGH THE ISSUES AROUND DATA
ACCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT IS
A SEAMLESS TRANSITION.
THE BUDGET ASSOCIATED WITH THE
TRANSFER WAS $1.28 MILLION.
A TOTAL FTE CHANGE OF 11
PERSONNEL.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS THE
ADDITION OF A CIVILIAN
INVESTIGATION SUPERVISOR AND
THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
SORRY.
FOR TOTAL CHANGE TO THE
POSITIVE, $167,000.
ONE FTE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I HAVE YOU FIRST IN LINE FOR
QUESTIONS AS SOON AS WE GET
THROUGH THIS NEXT SLIDE, ITEM
NUMBER NINE IF THAT IS OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>> ALL RIGHT LASTLY, I'M
NUMBER NINE.
THIS INCREASES SP THESE BUDGET
BY SEVEN OR $50,000 IN SUPPORT
OF ESTOCHIN EXPANSION.
PHOTO ENFORCEMENT, PLAN FOR
2021.
I BELIEVE. GREG DOSS RECEIVED
A MEMO THAT GOES INTO GREAT
DETAIL IN THE EXPANSION
SPECIFICALLY. WE ENTERED THIS
ITEM AS IT AFFECTS OUR
PERSONNEL AS FAR AS MEETING TO
HAVE THE RESOURCES TO REVIEW,
THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO
REVIEW THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS
SDOT ANTICIPATED RECEIVING,
THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.
HAPPY TO FIELD QUESTIONS
ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY I PROBABLY
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER
THEM, BUT HAPPY TO GET YOU
ANSWERS THOUGH.
THAT DOES IT FOR THE BUDGET
CHANGE REQUESTS.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE
>> THANK YOU.
THAT WAS VERY EFFICIENT WALKING
THROUGH THAT, I'M SURE THERE
ARE SOME QUESTIONS I THANK YOU
FOR LEAVE AND A HALF HOUR FOR
US TO WALK THROUGH THE
QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE I'VE
SIGNED UP FOR QUESTIONS ON
THESE CHANGE ITEMS ARE
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND VICE
CHAIR HERBOLD .COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES THANK YOU FOR WAITING
FOR
>> YES, SURE, THANK YOU.
I'VE A QUESTION ON SLIDE 10.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, ON
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, I UNDERSTAND
THE LOGIC HERE.
IT SAYS THERE HAS BEEN AN
EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN
COMPLAINTS AGAINST SPD. AND
THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO HIRE
ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR AND SPEND
MORE MONEY TO INVESTIGATE SPD.
AND THAT SHOULD GO AND SPD'S
BUDGET.
IS THAT WHAT I AM TO UNDERSTAND
ABOUT THAT ITEM?
>> THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY IS EMBEDDED IN
SPD CURRENTLY.
THE OPERATING, I DESCRIBE IT I
BELIEVE THERE IS LEGISLATION
THAT DESCRIBES IN THE SAME
MANNER AS A BUDGET ISLAND.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY TRANSFER
MONEY FOR
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THE POINT I AM MAKING, THERE'S
BEEN AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN
COMPLAINTS AGAINST SPD, IN
2020, THIS SUMMER.
WHILE THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE
IN COMPLAINTS MADE, I AM SURE,
WE HEARD AT LEAST 12,000 CASES,
COMPLAINTS MADE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE AGENCIES
THAT WE HAVE AND I WANT TO
POINT OUT THE INEQUITY OF
ASKING FOR MORE MONEY TO
INVESTIGATE WHEN THEY ARE
12,000 CASES AGAINST THIS
AGENCY.
THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO
MAKE, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSFER
OF THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS TO S.D.O.T., I WOULD
LIKE TO FLY IN CASE THERE WAS
NOT A SIMILAR CORRESPONDENCE,
THE PEO'S HAVE COMMUNICATED
THROUGH THEIR UNION AND THEIR
INTERESTS, THEY ARE TOTALLY
SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT BUT
THEY ARE LESS INTERESTED IN
BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF IT TRANSPORTATION
AND MORE INTERESTED IN BEING
TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW
COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT.
THEY VERY HELPFULLY IDENTIFY
SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT THEY
ARE READY TO TAKE ON AND
FUNCTIONS THAT ARE FORMALLY
PROVIDED BY SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS IN ONE OF THOSE
FUNCTIONS RELATES TO THE ISSUE
THAT I RAISED EARLIER THAT
JULIE ADDRESSED AND THAT IS THE
STAFFING OF SPECIAL EVENTS
UNFLAGGING.
I DO WANT TO SAY AGAIN AND I'M
HAPPY TO SHARE THIS MEMO BUT I
HAVE A MEMO THAT SAYS THERE IS
NO NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE IN
STATE LAW AND TO ALLOW FOR
NONUNIFORMED OR NON-SWORN
EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS WORK.
IT HAS TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE
EMPOWERED TO OVERRIDE TRAFFIC
SIGNALS AND THERE IS A THAT
SAYS ONLY SWORN OFFICERS ARE
EMPOWERED TO OVERRIDE TRAFFIC
SYMBOL SO I REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT THE PEO'S ARE OPEN TO
TAKING ON SOME OF THIS WORK AND
ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT
WITH THE VERIFICATION THAT IS
REQUIRED FOR RED LIGHT CAMERA
ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL ZONE
ENFORCEMENT AND THIS IS A
PROCESSING FUNCTION WHICH MIGHT
NEED A CHANGE IN STATE LAW.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER WHEN
WE PASSED LEGISLATION ALLOWING
FOR CAMERA ENFORCEMENT FOR
TRANSIT LANES.
THEY ALSO EXPRESSED A
WILLINGNESS TO RESPOND TO
NONINJURY COLLISIONS AND TAKE
THE REPORT IN FOR THE REPORTS
FOR SPD AND ALSO OPEN TO DOING
WORK ASSOCIATE WITH REPORTS OF
ABANDONED VEHICLES OR RVS WITH
PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM.
THE IDENTIFY THE REASONS WHY
THEY ARE WELL POISED TO TAKE ON
SOME OF THESE FUNCTIONS.
IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THEIR
EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A
TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN ENVIRONMENTS.
THEIR DIVERSITY OF THIS UNIT
WITH MORE THAN 60% BEING
MULTILINGUAL AND THEY ARE
FOCUSED ON DE-ESCALATION AND
COMMUNICATING AND CUSTOMER
SERVICE.
I WANT TO REALLY FLY BOTH OF
THE ISSUES OF MY INTEREST IN
THEIR SUPPORT OF TAKING ON MORE
RESPONSIBILITY BUT ALSO THE
REQUEST THAT WE CONSIDER THE
TRANSFER NOT TO S.D.O.T.
BUT TO THE NEW COMMUNITY
SAFETY DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY COMMENTS ON THAT FROM THE
TEAM?
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT INTO
THE RECORD . I'M SORRY, JULIE,
DID I SEE YOUR HAND?
>> I WAS GOING TO INDICATE THAT
NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE IN THE
LONG-TERM.
THERE ARE BARGAINING ISSUES
WITH TAKING WORK WHICH CAN BE
ADDRESSED AND WE ARE POISED TO
DO THAT.
IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO START
DOING THAT.
BUT, S.D.O.T.
MADE SENSE FOR US ON A POLICY
LEVEL WITH THE IMMEDIATE SHORT-
TERM GIVEN THAT SPECIAL EVENT
FUNDING WILL GO THROUGH
S.D.O.T.
AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS THE
ONE THAT GIVES THE POWERS THAT
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AND THAT
MADE SENSE IN SHORT-TERM FOR A
QUICK 2021 BUDGET EFFECTUATION.
I THINK WE ARE ALL OPEN TO LONG-
TERM RESHUFFLING DEPENDING ON
HOW THE PROCESS PLAYS OUT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE IS
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALES AND
THEN COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND REALLY
QUICKLY, I WANT TO GO BACK --
I FORGOT THE SLIDE NUMBER.
SLIDE NUMBER 10 AND I HAVE A
DIFFERENT LINE OF QUESTIONING
THAT WHAT TRIP I WAS ASKING
WHICH IS ABOUT THE
ACCOUNTABILITY PROPOSAL.
THE MAYOR HAD STATED THE INTENT
TO MOVE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
OUT OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND IF I'M
UNDERSTANDING THIS PRESENTATION
ACCURATELY, THE 21 PROPOSED
BUDGET MAINTAINS OPA WITHIN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I AM SEEKING SOME CLARIFICATION
ON THAT ASSUMPTION AS I AM
SEEING IT ON THIS PARTICULAR
SLIDE WITH EXPLANATION OF THE
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS THAT
APPEARS TO HAVE LED TO THE 20
CHAIR MOSQUEDA BUDGET.
>> ACTUALLY, I CAN TAKE THAT
ONE.
THAT WAS ON OUR SHORT LIST
OPERATIONALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY
WITH THE INDEPENDENT UNITS
WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND WAS ON THE NATIONAL SHORT
LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE
MAY MOVE OUT FROM UNDER THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE
DIRECTOR AND SOME OF THE
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS AND ANY
CHANGES THAT WOULD HAVE THE
CONSENT DECREE AND CAUSE US TO
HAVE HIGHER LEVELS OF APPROVAL
FROM THE COURT OR DEALING WITH
THE DOJ NOTIFICATION AND
APPROVAL OF THAT COUPLED WITH
OUR CONCERNS OF MAINTAINING THE
FIDELITY OF ACCESS TO
INFORMATION THAT OPA CURRENTLY
ENJOYS IS BEING PART OF THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
WHILE WE ARE NOT RULING IT OUT
AS SOMETHING THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IN THE
FUTURE, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE
SOMETHING WE COULD FEASIBLY
ACCOMPLISH FOR THE 20 CHAIR
MOSQUEDA BUDGET.
WE ARE NOT RULING IT OUT AND WE
ARE OPEN TO THAT BUT IT ALSO
DID NOT APPEAR TO BE SOMETHING
WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH FOR
THE 2021.
>> OKAY.
SO, I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL
TEXTURE TO THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO SIGNAL MY
CONCERN THAT MOVING FORWARD,
STATEMENTS RELATED TO TO FIND
THE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE WORKED
THROUGH THE ORDINARY PROCESSES
INCLUDING ENGAGEMENT WITH OPA
AND OIG IN THE POLICE
COMMISSION AND I PERSONALLY, AS
SOMEONE WHO WAS THE SPONSOR OF
THE 2017 POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
ORDINANCE WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED
THAT THE STATEMENT WAS MADE
WITHOUT ANY CONSULTATION OF
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
INCLUDING MYSELF WHO WAS ONE OF
THE PRIME AUTHORS AND SPONSORS
OF THE EXISTS OF THE SYSTEM.
THIS COULD HAVE A LARGE
IMPLICATION AS YOU ALL
EVENTUALLY FOUND OUT AFTER
DIGGING THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE
INTO THE PRAGMATIC POLICY
ISSUES RELATED TO A SUGGESTION
LIKE THAT.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF MOVING
FORWARD THAT THERE WOULD BE A
MORE PROACTIVE EFFORT OR JUST
AN EFFORT TO INCLUDE THOSE WAS
ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE AND
HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS ISSUE
VERY CLOSELY AND HAVE
ENCHANTING THIS ISSUE CLOSELY.
AGAIN, I'M CONCERNED TO HEAR
THAT NOT EVEN THE DIRECTOR WAS
CONSULTED BEFORE HE WAS MADE BY
THE MAYOR AND I JUST WANT TO
FLAG THAT.
>> WELL SAID, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I BELIEVE MANY OF US ECHO THAT
POINT.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, YOU ARE UP
NEXT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MY QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY ASKED
SO I AM SATISFIED.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, JUST
WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU AND
FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
OKAY, I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE
RAISE THEIR HAND OR CHIME IN.
OKAY, I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW-UP
QUESTIONS AND THEN WE MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH
THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES IF WE
KEEP GOING FOR A SECOND.
I'M LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER FIVE
AND SLIDE NINE.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN AREA THAT
THE COUNCIL INCLUDED AND I KNOW
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS DID NOT
HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS BUT HE
AND OTHERS HAVE A VERY CLEAR
ABOUT THE INTEREST TO MOVE THE
CALL CENTER OUT OF THE CURRENT
OPERATIONS AND I APPRECIATE
THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
HAS BEEN A LONGTIME CHAMPION OF
THIS AS WELL.
I GUESS MY QUESTION HERE IS I
BELIEVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS THAT
YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT THE
TRANSFER DOES HAPPEN AND ALL OF
THE 911 CIVILIAN EFFORTS GET
MOVED INTO A NEW INDEPENDENT
DEPARTMENT AND THAT REFLECTS
100% CHANGE.
IS THAT CORRECT?
ALL THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED
TO THAT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> I'M TRYING TO TAKE THAT
INTO ACCOUNT IN LIGHT OF WHAT I
BELIEVE MS. KLEIN YOU SAID THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRANSFER
THAT IS EFFECTUATED AND I
BELIEVE ONCE A DETERMINATION IS
MADE THROUGH PUBLIC CONSENSUS
ON WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> NO, A SLIGHT TWEAK TO THAT,
WE ARE LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS
ON WHAT OTHER SERVICES SHOULD
BE DISPATCHED OUT OF THE
SEATTLE EMERGENCY
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
>> THE CHANGE -- IS ALREADY IN
EFFECT RIGHT NOW GIVEN THE
EFFECT THAT WE SENT OUT THROUGH
THE BUDGET AS WELL?
>> WE HAVE BEGUN THE PROCESS
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO
APPLY WITH THE OVERRIDE AND
CHANGE THE CODE BEFORE WE APPLY
IT BUT IT IS IN MOTION.
>> THE WHEELS ARE IN MOTION SO
YOU ARE ANTICIPATING JANUARY 1
OF 2021 THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE
TO SEE THIS TRANSFER REALIZED?
>> FINGERS CROSSED.
>> THAT IS OUR GOAL.
WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN DO IT.
>> IS THE SAME TRUE OF ITEM
NUMBER FOUR HERE ON SLIDE
EIGHT?
>> YES.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
I WANT TO TURN BACK TO
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
I UNDERSTAND WE MAY HAVE HAD
YOU ON MUTE SO APOLOGIES FOR
THAT IF YOU DID HAVE SOMETHING.
>> THANK YOU, YES.
I USUALLY GET IN TROUBLE FOR
NOT HAVING NUDE ON AND FOR
ONCE, I WAS TALKING AWAY AND NO
ONE HEARD ME.
JUST BRIEFLY, I KNOW WE WILL
WRAP UP HERE FROM WHAT WE HEARD
TODAY BUT WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN OR
EIGHT QUESTIONS TEED UP AND
MOST OF THEM WERE ANSWERED AND
SOME OF THEM I CAN TALK TO DR.
FISCHER OFF-LINE ABOUT IN THE
CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN
WAITING ON TO EXECUTE THAT SO I
WILL PUT IT OUT THERE NOW.
BASED ON WHAT I AM HER HEARING
TODAY AND WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED
FROM THE POWERPOINT, JUST
PRELIMINARY WITH WHAT WE HAVE
LEARNED WHAT I HAVE LEARNED
TODAY, I WANTED TO BEGIN WHERE
WE END OR I WANT TO BEGIN AND
END IN THE SAME PLACE THAT IT
HAS BECOME CLEAR WHICH WE
ALREADY KNOW THAT MORE POLICE
DOESN'T NECESSARILY EQUAL MORE
SAFETY.
WE WILL STRUGGLE WITH THE
QUESTION OF WHETHER 1400
OFFICERS ARE EITHER NOT ENOUGH
OR TOO MUCH AND IT IS CLEAR TO
ME BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT
WERE POSED BY COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ, YOURSELF AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD THAT WE
HAVE TO RECALIBRATE THE NUMBER
OF OFFICERS WHICH IN MY VIEW
WHERE I AM LOOKING AT IS THE
DECREASE BASED ON CURRENT
SERVICE LEVELS AND HOW WE DO
THAT IN REDEFINING AND CHANGING
THE BEAUTIES OF POLICE
OFFICERS.
I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT
WE POINTED OUT ABOUT THE
POPULATION AND INCREASE OF THE
23% AND AS COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ SAID, THAT CAN BE A
COMPLETE STAFFING DECISION OR
SWORN RESOURCE ALLOCATION
DECISION THAT THERE OTHER
TOOLS THAT YOU USE BUT IT IS
STILL RELEVANT.
BASICALLY, WHAT I THINK I HAVE
HEARD AND HAVE LEARNED AND I
WILL HAVE MORE FOLLOW-UP
QUESTIONS AND MAYBE I WILL RUN
SOME OF THEM BY COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AS WELL BUT THAT THE
HISTORY AND FACTS ARE RELEVANT
AND AGAIN, IN MANY COMMUNITIES
AND THIS HAS BEEN TRUE FOR
EVER, MORE POLICE OFFICERS TO
EQUAL MORE VIOLENCE AND THAT IS
THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T LOOK
AWAY FROM.
I GUESS GOING FORWARD FROM
LISTENING AND THANK YOU, ANGELA
FOR THE GREAT OVERVIEW ON THE
INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED IN
URINALYSIS BUT WHAT I'M WALKING
AWAY WITH IS THE QUESTION THAT
YOU KEEP COMING BACK TO AND
WHAT WE WILL STRUGGLE WITH IS
HOW WE MAINTAIN CURRENT
SERVICES WITH LESS POLICE
OFFICERS AND BASICALLY IT WILL
REQUIRE US AND YOU TO THINK AND
ACT DIFFERENTLY.
THAT IS IN A SWEEPING FASHION
ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT COMMUNITY
POLICING IN THAT IT IS A NEW
DAY.
I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE YOUR DATA
POINTS AND ANALYSIS AND TOOLS
THAT YOU LOOK AT AND THEN Q DR.
FISCHER FOR YOUR INFORMATION IN
DR. NOBLE BUT WHAT IS BEING
REQUIRED OF US AND SHOULD BE
AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE TO IS THAT WE ARE
MARCHING IN THE DIRECTION OF
DISMANTLING OR REALLOCATING
RESOURCES OUT OF SPD AND
EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN SAYING
AND NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
HOW TO GET THAT PLAN DONE.
SO, COUNCIL OR MATTER PRESENT
OR MADAM CHAIR, I'M SORRY.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO END
WITH.
WHAT I HAVE LEARNED TODAY IN
THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE
ANSWERED FOR US TODAY AND THAT
IS WHERE I WILL LEAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
>> VERY WELL SET AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH , COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
I AM NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
HANDS AT THIS POINT.
I WILL HAVE FINAL COMMENTS AT
THE VERY END . WE DO HAVE SOME
TIME TO GO INTO THESE NEXT
SLIDES IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR WE
CAN HOLD THEM FOR THIS
AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION BUT IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH
-- I'M SEEING A NOD SO WHAT YOU
LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR
PREFERENCE IS AND I'M HAPPY FOR
YOU TO TAKE THE NEXT 10 MINUTES
OR SO.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF ANGELA AND
JULIE AGREE WITH ME BUT I THINK
THIS IS A LOT OF THE MEAT OF
THIS AFTERNOON'S DISCUSSION.
SO, WE COULD BRIEFLY PREVIEW IT
OR JUST -- AND LOOK FOR JULIET
EXECUTIVE INFORMATION.
>> I'M HAPPY TO PREVIEW AND
THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
OPPORTUNITY FOR IN-DEPTH
DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS THIS
AFTERNOON.
I LOOK TO CHAIR MOSQUEDA ON
WHAT TO DO.
>> IN THAT CASE, IF IT IS A
LEAD-IN TO THIS AFTERNOON AND
DIRECTOR NOBLE IF IT IS OKAY
WITH YOU AS WELL, I MAY ASK US
TO HOLD THIS AS AN INTRODUCTORY
COMPONENT TO THIS AFTERNOON'S
CONVERSATION AND WE KNOW IT
WILL BE ROBUST AND LENGTHY AND
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING ALL OF
OUR QUESTIONS PUT TOGETHER.
I ASSUME ALL OF YOU WILL BE
BACK THIS AFTERNOON.
IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION?
OKAY, I AM SEEING A NOD FROM
DR. FISCHER.
ANGELA, IF WE DON'T SEE YOU
THIS AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR
WALKING US THROUGH THIS.
JULIE, YOU WILL BE HERE THIS
AFTERNOON?
OKAY.
CHIEF DIAZ, WILL YOU BE HERE
THIS AFTERNOON?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I KNOW YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS
WITH DR. FISCHER.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE
THIS MORNING AND FOR ANSWERING
THOSE QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, LET ME
KNOW AS A PERSON THAT HAS THIS
DEPARTMENT IN HER COMMITTEE,
SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS AND I'M SURE WE WILL
HAVE MORE TO SAY THIS
AFTERNOON.
DIRECTOR, DID YOU HAVE MORE TO
SAY?
>> YES, I WANTED TO POINT OUT
THAT WE DID TRANSMIT A NUMBER
OF ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT WERE ALLUDED TO
TODAY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IN IF
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD YET WITH GREG
DOS AND THEY WERE SOME
QUESTIONS WITH SOME OF THAT
INFORMATION WHICH IS INCLUDED
IN THAT PACKET ALONG WITH SOME
OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ ALLUDED
TO.
IF YOU ARE NOT SEEING SOMETHING
YOU NEED, PLEASE DO NOT
HESITATE TO THROW THOSE
QUESTIONS IN THE TRACKER AND WE
WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET BACK TO
YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN.
THIS WORK IS REALLY IMPORTANT
AND THIS IS ME PERSONALLY
SAYING THIS WORK IS REALLY
IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE
INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE
DECISIONS AND I REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO COLLABORATING ON
THIS AND NOT JUST THROUGH THE
BUDGET PROCESS BUT GOING INTO
NEXT YEAR AS WELL SO THANK YOU
FOR THE TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL
OF YOUR TIME . WE WILL HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON.
AT 2 PM WE WILL START WITH THE
PUBLIC SAFETY OVERVIEW AND I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
INITIATE OUR CONVERSATION WITH
THE SLIDES THAT LEAD INTO THE
MAYOR'S VISION OF REVISION
PUBLIC SAFETY SO WE CAN BEGIN
OUR CONVERSATION FRESH IN A
NEW.
A FEW CLOSING THOUGHTS AND I
WANT TO ADD TO WHAT MANY OF OUR
COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID INCLUDING
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ SENTIMENTS
AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WE
HAD EVOLVED AROUND THE STATUS
QUO AND I HEARD THAT TERM USED
THAT WE ARE ASSUMING STATUS QUO
AND THAT THE WORKLOAD ON THE
FUNCTIONS OF THE POLICE WILL
REMAIN THE SAME AND WE ARE
FUNDING THE STATUS QUO LEVELS
OF ENGAGEMENT THAT THE POLICE
ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT IS
THE QUESTION THAT IS IN FRONT
OF US.
DO WE CONTINUE THE STATUS QUO
OR DO WE MAKE THE CHANGES THAT
MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS
ACROSS OUR CITY AND COUNTRY ARE
DEMAND IN.
I THINK THE QUESTION WAS A
MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT WE
WILL CONTINUE WITH TRADITIONAL
POLICING OR INCARCERATION IN
PROSECUTION OR IF THERE IS NEW
AND RE-ENVISIONED STRATEGY THAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
ARTICULATED THAT REQUIRES US TO
ACT WITH URGENCY AND HOW THAT
REFLECTED IN THE 21 BUDGET.
I THINK WE ARE POISED TO ASK
MORE QUESTIONS THIS AFTERNOON
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE
TAKING THOSE STEPS AND WHETHER
OR NOT THEY ARE BIG ENOUGH AND
HOW QUICKLY THOSE CAN BE
REPORTED IN THE BUDGET.
WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ACTUALLY
EXAMINING WHETHER THE RIGHT
PLACE FOR SERVICES TO BE
DELIVERED TO THE COMMUNITY
SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT OR AS THE
CHIEF HAS MENTIONED EARLIER,
ARE WE CONTINUING TO ASK MORE
FROM POLICE OFFICERS YEAR AFTER
YEAR?
I AM NOT HAVING TO PUT WORDS
INTO YOUR MOUTH, CHIEF DIAZ BUT
I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE
QUESTIONS WE ARE TRYING TO
ANSWER IF WE ARE ASKING THE
OFFICERS TO DOING THE RIGHT
THING AND SHOWING UP WHERE THEY
HAVE GUNS.
I THINK SPECIFICALLY MEMBERS OF
OUR SOCIETY HAVE ASKED FOR US
NOT JUST REITERATE THAT BLACK
LIVES MATTER BUT TO ALSO
RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE
CHANTING IT BECAUSE PEOPLE IN
THEIR HOMES AND GOING GROCERY
SHOPPING OR DRIVING OR GOING
FOR WALKS ARE BEING ARRESTED AT
HIGHER RATES THAN WE ARE SEEING
IN DEATH AS WELL.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT JUST TO
THE CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON
NOT JUST ON POLICY QUESTIONS
AND DOLLAR FIGURES BUT THE
LIVES THAT ARE AT RISK AND THE
LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST AND
THAT IS WHERE WE WILL PICK UP
THE CONVERSATION THIS
AFTERNOON.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS
NOT ACTUALLY A STATUS QUO
CONVERSATION IN OUR STATUS QUO
BUDGET AND ALSO REQUIRES US TO
MAKE INVESTMENTS NECESSARY TO
INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE
SAME TIME SO THAT THE CALLS ARE
ANSWERED BY THE TRUSTED
COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND
PRIORITIES ARE SHIFTED FOR
OFFICERS BACK INTO AREAS WHERE
THEY ARE NOT BEING CALLED TO
RESPOND TO SITUATIONS WHERE A
GUN OR BADGE IS NOT REQUIRED.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT, ALSO BEING
IN THAT MOMENT WITH DREDGING
TRAFFIC AND I THINK IT TAKES
AWAY FROM THE OFFICERS WITH THE
STAFFING RULES THAT THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAVE ARTICULATE
QUESTIONS ABOUT.
WE WILL BEGIN THE CONVERSATION
THIS AFTERNOON BUT THAT IS THE
FRAME I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS
TO BRING INTO THE DISCUSSION
THIS AFTERNOON GIVEN THAT WE
HAVE HEARD THE TERM STATUS QUO
USED A FEW TIMES AND HOW WE
PUSH OURSELVES OUTSIDE OF THAT
CURRENT BOX OF THINKING WITH
FUNDING THE STATUS QUO AND
ACTING TO CREATE PUBLIC SAFETY
FOR EVERYBODY AND TO A TRULY
REIMAGINED SYSTEM.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DID I
SEE YOUR HAND?
NO, OKAY.
CHIEF DIAZ, I WILL GIVE YOU THE
PARTING WORD THIS MORNING IF WE
WILL NOT SEE YOU THIS
AFTERNOON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND I WILL LET YOU HAVE THE
LAST WORD.
>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH
THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AS WELL
AS WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH OUR
DEPARTMENT INTO A VERY MUCH
MORE TRANSFORMATIVE PROCESS OF
LOOKING AT WHAT ITEMS OR
RESPONSES WE ARE RESPONDING TO.
OVER THE LAST DECADE, I
MENTIONED THIS TO MANY OF YOU
THAT WE HAVE SAID FOR A LONG
PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE CAN'T
ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF SOME OF
THE SOCIAL ISSUES.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO MOVING SOME
OF THOSE ITEMS OUT THAT WE
SHOULD NOT BE RESPONDING TO.
THAT WE ALSO KNOW WHAT THE
WORKLOAD IS IN THE AREAS WE ARE
RESPONDING TO AND SOME OF THE
STAFFING THINGS.
THESE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT
WILL HELP US MOVE THE
DEPARTMENT FORWARD IN THE
FUTURE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND I APPRECIATE THIS
DISCUSSION TODAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THROUGH ANOTHER VENUE THAT IS
NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE
BUDGET, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO
TALKING MORE WITH YOU ABOUT THE
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE TROLLING
OR DRAGGING OF MEMBERS OF THE
MEDIA THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING
OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND
MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS THAT ARE
EITHER MEMBERS OF THE PRESS OR
LEGAL OBSERVERS AND THOSE WHO
ARE MEDICS IN OUR COMMUNITY
CONTINUE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
SERVE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS
WITHOUT BEING INTIMIDATED AND I
KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE
CHATTED ABOUT BEFORE BUT I WANT
TO NOTE MY CONTINUED INTEREST
IN THE AREA AND NOT SPECIFIC TO
THE BUDGET OR POLICY SO I
APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN
ENGAGING IN THAT AND LOOK
FORWARD TO YOUR LEADERSHIP TO
MAKE SURE THAT THAT BEHAVIOR
STOPS.
>> THANK YOU.
WE WILL SEE YOU ALL AT 2 PM.
THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
MEETING WILL ADJOURN UNTIL 2
PM.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.