ARE YOU INSIDE CHAMBERS TO
START?
>> YES COUNCILMEMBER, YOU'RE
READY TO GO WHENEVER YOU ARE
READY.
>> WONDERFUL.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
TODAY IS JUNE 10, 2020 AT THE
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE,
WELCOME TO ORDER.
I'M TERESA MOSQUEDA CHAIR OF
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
PRESENT.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS .
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
HERE.
AND CHAIR MOSQUEDA?
HERE.
>> THANK YOU, MDM.
CLERK.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
AT THIS TIME COLLEAGUES, I WANT
TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WE HAVE
HAD A TEMPORARY HALT IN OUR
CONVERSATIONS AT THE SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE.
OVER THE LAST 3 WEEKS WE HAVE
BEEN AWAITING ADDITIONAL
GUIDANCE OFFERED FROM THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE ATTY.
GEN., AS WELL.
WE LIKE MANY CITIES ACROSS THE
STATE ARE DEALING WITH THE
IMPACT OF COVID-19 WHICH HAS
MEANT WE'VE HAD TO RADICALLY
CHANGE HOW WE ADDRESS GENERAL
GOVERNING AND DEALING WITH THE
CRISIS THAT HAS COME UP BECAUSE
OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
THAT IS COATED.
WE INITIALLY HAD HAD
CONVERSATIONS DURING THE
PREVIOUS MONTH ABOUT WAYS IN
WHICH THE PREVIOUS BUDGET AND
REVENUE STREAMS COULD BE
ADDRESSED FOR GREATER SUPPORT.
THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM
SMALL BUSINESSES TO CHILDCARE
TO INDIVIDUAL WORKERS AND FOLKS
FROM COMMUNITIES LIKE IN
IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE
COMMUNITIES.
WAITING AS WE SOUGHT ADDITIONAL
GOVERNOR, I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU TO GOVERNOR INSLEE FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP FOR HIS RECOGNITION
THAT CITIES LIKE SEATTLE NEEDED
ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE UP
CRITICAL MEASURES.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIS
LEADERSHIP ON EVERYTHING HE HAS
BEEN DOING WITH OUR PUBLIC
HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO RESPOND TO THE
CRISIS.
THEIR DIRECTIVES EARLIER THIS
MONTH HAVE ALLOWED US TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WHICH
WE MUCH APPRECIATE.
THERE ARE 3 ITEMS ON THE
AGENDA.
WE WILL ADDRESS THE REVENUE
BILLS WE WERE PREVIOUSLY
DISCUSSING INTRODUCED BY
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT THAT WE
WILL TAKE UP . HELLO,
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, INC.
YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE WILL HAVE THOSE AS AGENDA
ITEMS 1-2-3. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
4 WE TALKED IN DETAIL ABOUT ON
MONDAY.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING PART OF
THE EVALUATION OF THE CURRENT
BUDGET AND SETTING US UP FOR
CONVERSATIONS ON THE FUTURE
BUDGET INCLUDING THE 2020
SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET TO HELP
DEAL WITH THE CRISIS THAT IS
COVID AND IMMEDIATE CONCERNS IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WILL ALSO USE THIS AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO AN INQUEST
INTO THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET SO WE HAVE A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE
CURRENT SPENDING IS OCCURRING,
WHERE THSE DOLLARS ARE GOING,
AND WHO THEY ARE SERVING AND
NOT SERVING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE
AN ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE WOULD
LIKE DOLLARS TO GO IN THE
FUTURE.
THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH MUCH
OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE
HAPPENING IN PLACES LIKE
MINNEAPOLIS, NEW YORK CITY, LOS
ANGELES, AND MANY CDS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY DOING SIMILAR
ANALYSES ON HOW TO DEFUND AND
REFUND COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.
THAT WILL BE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
4. AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA, I
WANT TO SAY TO FOLKS YOU ALL
RECEIVED NOTIFICATIONS THAT THE
CITY BUDGET OFFICE CEO AND
DIRECTOR ARE TAKING ADDITIONAL
TIME TO ADD TO THE BUDGET THAT
THEY ARE PLANNING TO SEND TO
US.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD SIGN.
I'M HOPEFUL THEY ARE NOT ONLY
USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
INCLUDE SPENDING ITEMS FROM THE
FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT TO
ADDRESS THE COVID CRISIS BUT TO
ALSO TAKE THE MOMENT TO ADDRESS
THE OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
THAT IS OUT THERE WHICH IS THE
INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM IN THE
CONCERNS THAT WE SEE ABOUT OVER
POLICING OR ESCALATING POLICE
TACTICS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I SEE THIS AS A GOOD SIGN THAT
THERE IS ADDITIONAL
CONVERSATION HAPPENING ABOUT
THE BUDGET.
WE EXPECT THE BUDGET WITHIN A
WEEK OR 2. I'M HOPING WE GET IT
VERY SOON SO WE CAN CONTINUE
OUR PROCESS BUT AS WE SAID, WE
ARE NOT WAITING.
THAT IS WHAT ITEM NUMBER 4 IS,
TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO CURRENT
ALLOCATIONS, SPECIFICALLY
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> MAKE SURE FOLKS GET THE
INFORMATION IN REAL TIME.
WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN
FRONT OF US WE HAVE SOME ROBUST
PRESENTATIONS FROM CENTRAL STUFF
AND WE APPRECIATE THEM BEING ON
THE LINE.
>>> ALSO FOR QUICK HOUSEKEEPING
WE HAVE ABOUT 85 PEOPLE SIGNED
UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
I HAVE COMMITTED TO HAVING A
FULL HOUR AT OUR HEARING TODAY
TO ALSO HEAR FROM FOLKS WHO HAD
BEEN WAITING TO MAKE COMMENTS
ABOUT REVENUE PROPOSALS PUT ON
HOLD.
LIKE PREVIOUS HEARINGS, WE ARE
GOING TO LIMIT THAT TO ONE
MINUTE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS
POSSIBLE.
THE 3 PARTS OF THE AGENDA IS
THE FIRST HOUR DEDICATED TO
PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE 2nd TO
THE REVENUE PACKAGE. AND THE
3rd HOUR TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK
AT SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET AND DO THE INQUEST INTO
WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING.
WE WILL THEN, NEXT WEEK,
HOPEFULLY SEE THE FULL PROPOSED
BUDGET AND IF NOT, WE WILL KEEP
YOU UPDATED ON THE DOCUMENTS WE
RECEIVED FROM THE CITY BUDGETS
OFFICE.
I WANT TO GET INTO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE ANXIOUS
TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
ITEM C IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THIS PART WE WILL OPEN
PROMOTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
AND I ASK EVERYONE BE PATIENT
AS WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE THIS
SYSTEM AND NAVIGATE THROUGH THE
INEVITABLE GROWING PAINS WE
HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED.
WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING FOR
WAYS TO FINE-TUNE THIS PROCESS
AND ADD FEATURES TO ALLOW FOR
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AS
WELL, CANCEL MEMBER JUAREZ IS
WITH US AS WELL SO THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US.
COLLEAGUES, IT REMAINS THE
STRONG INTENT OF THE COUNCILS
TO HAVE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT
INCLUDED IN MEETINGS.
IN FACT, I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS
THAT AS WE BEGIN COMMITTEE
MEETINGS, A REMINDER WE WILL
HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PROBABLY
NOT AS LONG AS TODAY BUT EVERY
MEETING, SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE
THE CHANCE TO SHARE THE INPUT.
WE ALSO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
MAKE SURE THE COMMENTS ARE
WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE
ALLOW TO GET TO AS MANY PEOPLE
AS POSSIBLE.
I'M GOING TO MODERATE THE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNER.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
GOING TO BE UNTIL 3:00 P.M.
I ASK EACH SPEAKER TO BE GIVEN
ONE MINUTE.
I WILL CALL 3 SPEAKERS AT A
TIME IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY
HAVE REGISTERED.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS
WHO HAVE TESTIFIED BEFORE AND
I'M SORRY, BUT AT THIS TIME WE
CANNOT GO TO FOLKS WHO HAVE
TESTIFIED.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PATIENT
WITH US AND FOR FOLKS
INTERESTED IN STILL TESTIFYING,
YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO
SEATTLE.GOV AND GET SIGNED UP.
ONCE I CALL THE NAME OF THE
SPEAKERS WE WILL UNMUTE YOU AND
YOU WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO
SPEAK.
THIS WILL BE YOUR CUE TO SPEAK.
START BY SAYING YOUR NAME AND
YOU WILL ALSO HEAR A CHIME AT
10 SECONDS AND WE ASK YOU TO
WRAP UP COMMENTS SO YOU DO NOT
GET CUT OFF.
I'M GOING TO ASK SUPPORT FROM
IT.
I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE SCRIPT.
ONCE YOU COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT
YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO LISTEN IN ON THE LINE OR
WATCH US ON SEATTLE CHANNEL OR
ONLINE STREAMING.
I THINK YOU FOR YOUR
PARTICIPATION AND FOR THOSE
FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN EAGERLY
WAITING TO TESTIFY ON THESE
TOPICS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US.
AGAIN, REVENUE.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO TALK ABOUT
THE PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE WE
DID TALK ABOUT HAVING THAT ON
THE AGENDA. YOU ARE ALSO
WELCOME TO SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK
ON THE CONCEPT OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT INQUEST ON
THE BUDGET.
WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD IS NOW OPEN.
WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE
FIRST 3 SPEAKERS.
THE FIRST IS JOHN MANELLA
FOLLOWED BY AVA AND BRYCE MOORE.
YOU SHOULD BE LIVE.
>> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JOHN AND I'M THE
BOARD TREASURER OF THE TENETS
YOU NEED A WASHINGTON STATE.
I SUPPORT THE CAUSE TO DEFUND
SPD.
AT THE HEART THIS IS ABOUT
FREEDOM BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT
WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
RIGHT NOW WE PAY HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR
TO RESPOND TO CALLS ABOUT
HOMELESSNESS, DRUGS, PROPERTY
CRIME, AND VIOLENCE AND IT HAS
BEEN A FAILURE.
ASK OUR COMMUNITIES IF THEY
FEEL SAFE OR SMALL BUSINESSES
OR HOMEOWNERS OR CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS WHO FINISH 12 HOUR DAYS
ONLY TO SEE SOMEONE BROKE INTO
THEIR CAR.
WE NEED SOLUTIONS, NOT POLICE.
THERE ARE MORE EFFECTIVE, LESS
EXPENSIVE ALTERNATIVES.
WHAT IF I TOLD YOU 3 MONTHS OF
JAIL COST THE SAME AS A FULL
YEAR OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING?
THE PERSON GETS THE CARE THEY
NEED AND IS OFF THE STREETS
FOREVER AND WE SAVE A LOT OF
MONEY THAT WE CAN THEN USE TO
HELP MORE PEOPLE.
THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
THERE ARE MORE BETTER, COST
EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVES TO
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY THEM
POLICE.
WE CAN BE SAFETY AND SAVE A LOT
OF MONEY IF WE DEFEND POLICE.
THANK YOU.-- DEFUND POLICE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 2
AND HIM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF
DEFUNDING THE POLICE BY CUTTING
THE BUDGET IN HALF AND
REINVESTING IT INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
ALSO TO SUPPORT BANNING THE USE
OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS, AND
FINALLY I THINK CITY COUNCIL
NEEDS TO SCHEDULE A VOTE ON ANY
AND PASS COUNSEL NEVER SAWANT 'S
TAX LEGISLATION.
I THINK WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF
RADICAL SOUNDING PROMISES AND
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE DON'T
JUST RELY ON THE SAME POLITICAL
ESTABLISHMENT THAT GOT US HERE.
PROTESTERS FOR SEATTLE POLICE
TO EAT LEAVE THE PRECINCT, A
NUMBER OF DEMOCRATIC
ESTABLISHMENT POLITICIANS HAVE
CONSISTENTLY VOTED IN SUPPORT
OF MORE POLICE FUNDING, VOTED
AGAINST LEGISLATION, EXCEPT FOR
KSHAMA SAWANT WHO VOTED
AGAINST IT IN THE PAST.
WE NEED TO KEEP ORGANIZING AND
FIGHTING TO WIN SUBSTANTIAL
PLICE REFORM.
>> RICE MORE.
THE NEXT WILL BE JAMES COOPER,
JOSH CASTLE, AND NAOMI SEE.
>> MY NAME IS BRYCE MOORE AND I
WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE
SEATTLE AREA.
THIS IS WHAT THE SPD HAS DONE.
YOUR OFFICERS WENT ON TO THE
RADIO AS WELL AWARE THE
PROTESTERS WERE LISTENING, AND
LIED ABOUT WITNESSING THE
PRESENCE OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS
IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE TO TRY TO
WORRY PROTESTERS.
NO PHOTOS HAVE ARISEN WHICH
SEEMS ODD WHEN YOU CONSIDER
REPORTS OF 25-30 ARMED MEN
WALKING THROUGH BUSY STREETS.
THEY WEAPON ICE BLACK PEERS
AGAINST THEM.
IMAGINE THE AMUSEMENT WHEN THIS
HAPPENED.
MY TOE WAS BROKEN AND MY LEG
WAS SHREDDED WHEN A FLASH BEING
EXPLODED ON IT.
I'VE SEEN OTHER PROTESTERS
RIDDLED WTH BRUISES, CUTS,
ASTHMA ATTACKS, AND JENNY
DURKAN AND CARMEN BETH MUST BE
RESIGNED.
DEFUND THE SEATTLE STORM
TROOPER DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
HAVE MADE IT TO THE FRONT LINE
AND WE THINK THE CONTINUED
SUPPORT.
WE KNOW THIS HASN'T BEEN EASY
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SACRIFICE.
>> JAMES COOPER.
>> LAST WEEK WHEN MINNEAPOLIS--
THIS IS JAMES COOPER FROM
DISTRICT TO. LAST WEEK WHEN
MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL
ANNOUNCED A COMMITMENT TO
REPLACING WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY
AGENCY, I WAS INSPIRED TO START
A CAMPAIGN TO FOLLOW THEIR
LEAD.
OUR GROUP IS BANSPD.ORG.
SINCE THEN WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS
OF CONVESATIONS WITH PEOPLE
FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND THE
FEEDBACK HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.
SEATTLE CITIZENS NO LONGER FEEL
SPD SERVES THE CITY AND ARE
READY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS PUBLIC
SAFETY IN A WAY THAT HARMONIZES
LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND PROPOSE A
REPLACEMENT AGENCY BE DESIGNED
VIA A CITIZENS ASSEMBLY IN EACH
DISTRICT.
EACH DISTRICT WOULD CONVENE IN
AN ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD CONDUCT
HEARING AND DELIBERATE TO
PRODUCE A PROPOSAL.
PROPOSALS WILL BE VOTED ON BY
SEATTLE VOTERS IN A CITYWIDE
ELECTION AND THE MOST APPROVED
AUCTION WOULD BE ADOPTED AND
SPD WOULD BE DISBANDED.
WE ASK THEM TO REJECT REFORM
INSTEAD COMMITTING TO A BINDING
PROCESS WITH WHICH THEY
DESIGNED THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC
SAFETY.
BRITISH COLUMBIA USED A SIMILAR
CITIZENS ASSEMBLY MODEL IN 2004
TO SELECT A NEW VOTING SYSTEM.
>> THANK YOU, JOSH CASTLE.
>> WE SUPPORT THE 3 ORDINANCES
BEING CONSIDERED AN URGE YOU TO
VOTE YES.
THANK YOU COUNSEL NUMBER
MORALES AND COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT FOR SPONSORING.
WE ASK YOU TO IMPLEMENT THE
INITIATIVES THAT OUTLINES
CONCRETE STEPS THE CITY CAN
TAKE TO IMPACT RACIAL INJUSTICE
AND RACIAL POLICIES IN SEATTLE
AND IN PARTICULAR, HOMELESSNESS
TO PLACEMENT ECONOMIC SECURITY
AND MORE.
SPD SHOULD BE DEMILITARIZED
IMMEDIATELY AND SHOULD BE
REALLOCATED TO COMMUNITY-BASED
ALTERNATIVES AND INTERVENTIONS.
THE SWEEPS OF HOMELESSNESS NEED
TO END NOW.
THESE ARE INHUMANE AND
CONTINUES TO BE A HUGE LACK OF
SHELTER.
MORE TINY HOUSE VILLAGES WOULD
HELP CHANGE THIS.
WE CAN SEND A VILLAGES QUICKLY
AND COST-EFFECTIVELY AS WE DID
RECENTLY WITH AMAZING
VOLUNTEERS.
WITH FEDERAL COVID FUNDING WE
COULD SET UP 15 VILLAGES WITH
$15 MILLION IN FUNDING AND
QUICKLY GET 1000 PEOPLE INSIDE.
THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT PERSON IS
NEGATIVELY FOLLOWED BY ERIN,
RACHEL, AND ANNETTE. NAOMI?
>> MY NAME IS NAOMI AND I'M A
STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON.
TODAY I'M URGING YOU TO
INVESTING COMMUNITY-BASED
INITIATIVES THAT COMBAT
DISPLACEMENT, CENTER COMMUNITY-
LED ORGANIZATIONS AND SUPPORT
COMMUNITY-SPONSORED PROGRAMS.
SPECIFICALLY I ASK YOU TO SET
ASIDE FUNDING TO SET ASIDE
FAITH-BASED AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS DEVELOPING LOW-
INCOME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
UNDER CENTRAL AREA HOUSING PLAY.
THESE WOULD ALLOW COMMUNITY
INSTITUTIONS TO REALIZE THAT
EQUITY FROM THEIR LAND IN ORDER
TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING
TO COMBAT DISPLACEMENT.
WE ALSO ASK YOU REDIRECT FROM A
JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT
CRIMINALIZES LACK OF
OPPORTUNITY AND TARGETS CASH-
POOR INDIVIDUALS, AND INSTEAD
PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR PROGRAMS
HAT FOCUS ON STUDENTS O
COLOR, SUSTAINABLE SHELTER
SOLUTIONS LIKE TINY HOUSE
VILLAGES AND COMMUNITY-LET
APPROACHES TO PEACE.
>> THE NEXT PERSON IS AIR.
AARON, CAN YOU HEAR US?
YOU MAY BE MUTED.
>> MY NAME IS AARON AND I LIVE
IN DISTRICT 6, AND I'M CALLING
IN SUPPORT OF DEFUNDING THE
POLICE.
I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYONE
ON CITY COUNCIL AND NOW I WILL
QUICKLY REITERATE.
I'M ASKING EACH COUNCILMEMBER
HOST WEEKLY TOWN HALLS OR
SOMETHING OF THE LIKE WITH
CONSTITUENTS TO SPECIFICALLY
UPDATE US ON THE STATUS OF THE
PROCESS OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE
AND REALLOCATING FUNDING TOWARD
COMMUNITY WELL-BEING.
I KNOW THAT ON MONDAY THERE WAS
SOME HESITANCY FROM A NUMBER OF
COUNCILMEMBERS AND I UNDERSTAND
THAT WHILE THE DISCUSSIONS ARE
MOVING EXTREMELY RAPIDLY AND
YOU ARE TASKED WITH RUNNING A
CITY DURING A PANDEMIC, IT'S
DIFFICULT BUT THIS IS EVEN MORE
OF A REASON TO KEEP THIS
PROCESS AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE
WITH CONSTITUENTS.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLATFORM TO
PROVIDE AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL
EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES AND
REALLY JUST DEMONSTRATES
TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AARON SETSER.
RACHEL, CAN YOU HEAR US?
>> HI, I LIVE IN DISTRICT 5 AND
I'M CALLING IN TODAY TO SUPPORT
THE PROPOSED 50% CUT TO SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FUNDING.
SPEAKING AS A PRIVATECITIZEN
AND A MATTER MEMBER OF THE
PRIVATE ARTS COMMUNITY I SUPPOSE
SUPPORT THE DEMANDS ENUMERATED
BY MUTUAL AID SEATTLE AND
FUNDING CUT FROM SPD MUST BE
ALLOCATED TO BLACK AND BROWN
AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES IN
SEATTLE TO PROVIDE FOR THE
HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR
PEOPLE.
FURTHER, THOSE ARRESTED WHILE
PROTESTING THE ACTIONS MUST BE
RELEASED IN THE CITY MUST
DECLINE TO CHARGE OR PROSECUTE
THEM OR RETALIATE AGAINST THEM
IN ANY WAY.
THE MOMENTUM OF THE BLACK LIVES
MATTER MOVEMENT WAS BUILT BY
BLACK BROWN AND INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES AND THE MATERIAL
NEEDS MUST REMAIN CENTERED
UNTIL THOSE NEEDS ARE MET AND
CHANGES TO SOCIETY HAVE BEEN
SUBSTANTIALLY REALIZED.
VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK AND
BROWN PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER BE
TOLERATED.
PERMITTED OR IGNORED IN SEATTLE
WILL CONTINUE TO PRESSURE
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO
EITHER DO THE WORK--
>> THANK YOU.
BENNETT, CHRIS, AND SIDNEY
PORTER.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M A RENTER IN DISTRICT FOR
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
PARTICULAR TO DISMANTLING THE
SPD.
I STAND IN SOLID AREA
SOLIDARITY OF THE PROTEST AND
ECHO THE DEMANDS OF
REALLOCATING ALL OF THE $400
MILLION OF FUNDING TO THE SPD
INTO OTHER AREAS OF PUBLIC GOOD
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
PUBLIC MENTAL HEALTH
INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC HOUSING
INITIATIVES, SPECIFICALLY
TRAINED DOMESTIC ABUSE
RESPONDERS, DE-ESCALATION,
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS AND
OTHER INITIATIVES TO HELP
SUPPORT THOSE IN NEED,
PARTICULARLY THOSE OF BLACK AND
BROWN BODY.
I BELIEVE DEFENDING WILL ALLOW
FOR A MORE JUST AND PEACEFUL
SEATTLE.
THANK YOU.
>> CHRIS McDANIEL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU.
IT GLADDENS ME TO SEE THAT YOU
ARE GETTING AN EARLY START ON
THE BUDGET THAT YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH.
THE SHORTFALLS IN EVERY
DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T ENVY YOU OR YOUR TASK.
ALLOW ME TO MAKE A FEW
SUGGESTIONS.
FUND TINY HOUSE VILLAGES TO THE
LIMITS OF YOUR ABILITIES.
THEY SAVE LIVES.
THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS WHO LIVE
THERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE
CONTAMINATED BECAUSE THEY HAVE
SOMEPLACE TO GO.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS.
>> SIDNEY PORTER, JOSLIN, AND
EMILY MacARTHUR.
>> MY NAME IS SIDNEY PORTER.
I'M A WHITE STUDENT AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON WHO IS
TYING OF SEEING BLACK AND BROWN
PEERS FIGHT AGAINST DEPRESSION.
THESE DEMANDS INCLUDE THE
DEFENDING OF THE SPD BY AT
LEAST 50%, INCREASED IMMEDIATE
AND LONG-TERM INVESTMENT, AND
TO END THE PROSECUTION OF
PROTESTERS.
THE SEATTLE TO PLEASE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET HAS CONTINUED
TO GROW IN THE BUDGET WAS
SUPPOSED TO FUND PRACTICES THAT
WOULD MAKE THE COMMUNITY SAFER
AND REDUCE POLICED NATALITY YET
OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT BECOME
ANY SAFER AND THINGS HAVE ONLY
CONTINUED TO BE A THREATENING
FORCE MEETING SHOOTING TO KILL.
IF YOU WANT SAFER COMMUNITIES
WE NEED TO DECREASE THIS
PRESENCE.
I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY
COUNCIL TO PROPOSE AND VOTE FOR
A 50% CUT, $363 MILLION BUDGET
TO GO TO EDUCATION, MENTAL
HEALTH CARE, AND OTHER
COMMUNITY SERVICE.
>> JOSLIN?
>> MY NAME IS JUST ONE.
I'M A MEXICAN WOMEN LIVING ON
CAPITOL HILL.
I'M CALLING TO DEMAND CITY
COUNCIL COMPLETELY DEFUND THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE A ROT IN OUR CITY
ROOTED IN RACISM AND WE NEED TO
REMOVE IT COMPLETELY.
I REQUEST $407 MILLION BE
REALLOCATED INTO COMMUNITY
PROGRAMS FOCUSING ON THE BLACK
COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE MARCHED TO DEMAND THEY
STOP BEATING AND MURDERING
BLACK CITIZENS THEY RESPOND
WITH MORE VIOLENCE WREAKIN
HAVOC ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 2
WEEKS.
THEY DO NOT PROTECT AND SERVICE
AND WE NEED TO FUND THE
PROGRAMS THAT DO.
THANK YOU, I YIELD MY TIME.
>> EMILY MacARTHUR.
>> MY NAME IS EMILY MacARTHUR.
I AM A RENTER AND I LIVE IN
DISTRICT 2 AND HIM CALLING IN
TO SUPPORT DEFUNDING THE POLICE
BY AT LEAST 50%.
I THINK THIS QUEST IS A DAY AND
A DOLLAR SHORT.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THE
BUDGET HAS BEEN A BLACK BOX IS
COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
BROUGHT FORWARD AT ANY--
KNOWING WHAT IS INSIDE OF THE
BUDGET, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT
THAT MONEY IS SPENT ON.
IT IS SPENT ON WEAPONS OF WAR
THAT ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO BE
USED UNDER THE GENEVA
CONVENTION TO GAS AND FLASH
BANG OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK
THIS IS HOPING THE MOVEMENT
WILL GO HOME AND CAN BE DONE
UNDER THE COVER OF NIGHT.
THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT IS
BECAUSE OF COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
VOTING AGAINST THAT INCLUDING--
SO OUR MOVEMENT WILL NEED TO
KEEP--
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I ASSURE YOU IT IS NOT A STALL
TACTIC.
WE ARE MOVING QUICKLY AND IS
EXACTLY WHY WE MADE IT THE
FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S
VERY CLEAR TO FOLKS.
THE NEXT 3 PEOPLE ARE JENNIFER
COOPER.
>> HELLO FEDERAL-- FELLOW
SEATTLEITES.
I'M HERE TO ASK MY CITY TO MAKE
SURE OUR BUDGET REFLECTS
SYSTEMS OF CARE, SUPPORT, AND
TRUST THAT ALLOW US TO THRIVE.
THAT MEANS DRASTICALLY REDUCING
BUDGETS FOR POLICING AND
PUNISHMENT SYSTEMS THAT
PERPETUATE HARM.
UNTIL RECENTLY I DIDN'T THINK
MUCH ABOUT THE BUDGET OR ABOUT
THE POLICE AND THAT REFLECTS A
BLINDNESS OF WHITE PRIVILEGE
AND WHITE SUPREMACY.
IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE OF COLOR
HAVE NOT BEEN TELLING US, BUT I
AM NOT BLIND ABOUT THIS ANY
MORE.
I STOOD IN THE STREETS AND
PEACEFUL PROTEST AND SAW POLICE
WHO LOOKED LIKE SOLDIERS.
I WATCHED THE STREAMS, SOME
VIDEOS OF POLICE GASSING AND
BEATING PEOPLE THERE SUPPOSED
TO PROTECT.
THEY WERE ARMED IN BATTLE
AGAINST US, NOT GOING TO BATTLE
FOR US.
SO, IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
PROTECT US, WHO ARE THEY TRYING
TO PROTECT?
PROPERTY, POWER STRUCTURES, AND
PRIVILEGE.
>> SUJATA ROMNEY?
>> HELLO. I'M REPRESENTING THE
COALITION OF THE AFRICAN--
SEATTLE-- AMERICANS.
THE COMMUNITY STRONGLY SUPPORTS
AND FOLLOWS THE LEAD OF THE
MOVEMENT AND AS OPPOSED TO
MILITARIZATION AND VIOLENT
TECHNIQUES USED BY SEATTLE
PIECE.
WE WANT COUNCILMEMBERS TO
ENTIRELY DEFUND POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND USE THE FUNDS
FOR CORRECTIVE JUSTICE LED BY
THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN SEATTLE.
REJECT ANY PROPOSED EXPANSION
OF THE POLICE BUDGET, ONE OF
THE HIGHEST CUTS EACH YEAR
UNTIL HE GETS TO 0. SALARIES
ACROSS THE BOARD AND
IMMEDIATELY FIRE POLICE
OFFICERS WHO HAVE EXCESSIVE
FORCE COMPLAINTS.
DO NOT HIRE NEW OFFICERS OR
RESIGNED OFFICERS.
CUT FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
RELATIONS FOR THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE FOR COPS
UNDER INVESTIGATION, USE A
POWER ON POLICE UNIONS UNTIL
THEY ARE FULLY DEFUNDED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHARLIE?
>> I REPRESENT SOLIDARITY
COMMUNITY AND PEACE SEATTLE.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
MERCER MEGA BLOCK.
WITH AN ESTIMATED $42 MILLION
SET ASIDE AND FINANCE GENERAL
WE NEED TO BE ALLOCATED WE MUST
USE ALL OF THIS MONEY FOR LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES.
HOW HAS THE $50 MILLION ALREADY
SET ASIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION
BEING USED TO BENEFIT LOW-
INCOME COMMUNITIES?
THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL BE MAKE SURE TO MARK
THOSE.
JEN FOLLOWED BY VALENTINO, AND
VICTOR.
JEN, YOU SHOULD BE LIVE.
>> TODAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE HUMAN SERVICES COLLISION.
THIS YEAR, A LIST OF NEW
ACTIVITIES TO FUND.
HUMAN SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL TO
BUILD AND SUPPORT WELL-BEING.
THE PANDEMIC HIT ALL OF US BUT
WE WERE NOT ALL IN THE SAME
BOAT.
WE MUST ASK WHAT KIND OF SYSTEMS
DO WE WANT TO BUILD FOR OUR
FUTURE?
FIRST, MAKE NO CUTS TO
COMMUNITY HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES.
2nd, RE-ENVISION THE USE OF
CITY RESOURCES, REBUILDING TO
REMEDY INEQUITIES THAT HAVE
BEEN BUILT INTO THE SYSTEMS
INCLUDING NEW PROGRESSIVE
REVENUE AND EXAMINING THE SPD
AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE BUDGET,
REDUCING FUNDING AND
REALLOCATING RESOURCES TO
COMMUNITY-LED HOUSING, HEALTH,
AND HUMAN SERVICES.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I AM A FAMILY PRACTICE DOCTOR
IN THE RAIN OR BEACH
NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE WORKED AT
THE SAME CLINIC FOR 21 YEARS.
I AM IN DISTRICT TO. I'M ASKING
YOU TO DEFUND THE POLICE
PUTTING THAT INTO DESPERATELY
NEEDED THINGS FOR PATIENTS.
WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO OUR JOB AS
PHYSICIANS TO TAKE CARE OF
PATIENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE
HOMELESS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
HEALTHY FOOD.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
MEDICATION.
THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TO
MEANINGFUL MENTAL HEALTH CARE.
THE SYSTEM IS A DISASTER AND
THAT DISASTROUS MENTAL HEALTH
SYSTEM IS WHAT THESE CALLS ARE
BEING DONE TO. IT'S THE ONLY
LOGICAL CONCLUSION TO REDUCE
FUNDING TO THE POLICE AND
INCREASE FUNDING FOR SOCIAL
SERVICES. ADDITIONALLY, I WAS
IN THE MARCH AND THERE WERE NO
POLICE TO BE SEEN.
IT WAS ENTIRELY PEACEFUL AND
ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN.
WE WILL NOT SUFFER WITH REDUCED
POLICE PRESENCE.
THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT 3 PEOPLE ARE
VICTOR, DAVID, AND ADRIAN.
VICTOR, YOU ARE UP.
>> HELLO, THANK YOU COUNCIL
PEOPLE FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE
A VOICE. I'M FROM GEORGETOWN
TINY HOUSES VILLAGES AND A
SAFETY ADVISOR.
I DO HAVE AN IDEA, IF WE COULD
BUILD MORE TINY HOUSES THAT CAN
HELP THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM.
IT'S A SMALL STEP BUT A GIANT
STEP IN THE LONG RUN.
IF WE COULD ALL JUST GET ALONG
AND HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE THE
PEOPLE COULD LEAD UP WITH POLICE
OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIND A
WAY WHERE WE CAN STOP THESE
TYPES OF SITUATIONS, NOT ONLY
TO BLACK LIVES MATTER, ALL
LIVES MATTER AND IN THE NEW
SITUATION, DURING THE COVID
SITUATION, IT HAS BEEN A
REALLY, REALLY STRESSFUL THING
FOR EVERYONE BUT I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO
HAVE A VOICE IN THIS MEETING.
THANK YOU, ONCE AGAIN, FOLKS.
>> THE NEXT PERSON IS DAVID.
>> I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED
THE BRUTALITY THE POLICE HAVE
INFLICTED UPON US WHILE
STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE
BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT.
I WATCH MY FRIENDS GET SHOT AT
DIRECTLY.
THESE WERE CRIMINALS THAT ARE
FILLING STREETS THAT WE ARE
GIVING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO WE NEED TO DEFUND
THEM AND INVEST THE MONEY IN
OUR COMMUNITIES.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE SEATTLE
BUDGET I SEE HOW IT REFLECTS
THE CORPORATE INTERESTS IN OUR
CITY. WE START INVESTING IN
EDUCATION, HOUSING, THINGS FOR
THE COMMUNITIES.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO PLAY THEIR
PAY THEIR SHARE.
OTHER CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN,
WE HAVE SEEN HOW THEY ARE
DISPROPORTIONALLY AFFECTING
COMMUNITIES AND THEY NEED TO BE
FAIR SO WE CAN HAVE EQUITABLE
HOUSING FOR COMMUNITIES, THANK
YOU.
>> I'M A PROPERTY MANAGER IN
SEATTLE AND I'M REFERENCING THE
LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO CITY
COUNCIL. PLEASE BUT FUNDING FOR
THE TINY HOUSE VILLAGES HAS A
COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO HANDLE
HOMELESSNESS.
AND ALSO TO PUT FUNDING TOWARD
THE CENTRAL AREA HOUSING PLAN
SO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
CAN STAY IN THE COMMUNITY AND
NOT GET DISPLACED.
PEOPLE CAN HAVE TRAINING FOR
LIVELIHOOD AND ABLE TO STAY IN
THEIR HOUSES. IN THE LAST 5
YEARS I'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN
THEFT SO I HOPE THAT WITH
FUNDING-- DEFUNDING OF POLICE
THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION
, THE THEFT HAS GONE UP BY A
LARGE PERCENTAGE IN THE LAST 5
YEARS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LOGAN SMALL SWAN,, LOGAN ARE
YOU WITH US?
>> I AM A RANK-AND-FILE UNION
WORKER IN SEATTLE AND I DON'T
THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT
OF RESEARCH DONE.
THERE SHOULD BE RESEARCH DONE
IN THE SPD BUDGET BUT I DON'T
THINK THAT SHOULD HOLD UP
CUTTING THE BUDGET ESPECIALLY
WITH THE SHORTFALLS BECAUSE OF
ITS AGGRESSIVE TAXATION.
WORKING PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME
FOR THAT.
YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE
BETWEEN CUTTING THE BUDGET OF
THE SPD OR SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT
WORKING FAMILIES RELY ON. IT
COSTS 46 MILLION LOTS WHILE
STALLING OVER THE AMAZON TAX.
I THINK YOU NEED TO SCHEDULE A
VOTE FOR THAT IMMEDIATELY AND
DON'T WATER IT DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE
WATCHING THE NEWS LAST NIGHT
BUT A BUNCH OF US OCCUPIED CITY
HALL AND WILL BE BACK.
JENNY DURKAN HAS TO GO.
>> ANDREW CONSTANTINO, AND
BRENDAN WALSH.
HI, ANDREW.
>> I AM ANDREW CONSTANTINO SITE
COORDINATOR AT GEORGETOWN TINY
VILLAGE.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW THE
MODEL HAS OFFERED SAFETY,
COMMUNITY SERVICES TO HUNDREDS
OF HOMELESS MEN, WOMEN, AND
PETS.
THE CREATION OF NEW TINY HOUSE
VILLAGES MAY PRECLUDE THE NEED
FOR SUITES AS THEY ARE BY FAR
THE PREFERRED SHELTER OPTION
FOR MANY WHO ARE STILL CAMPING
ON THE STREETS.
WE RECEIVED COUNTLESS INQUIRIES
LOOKING AT TINY HOUSES AS A
HUMANE, EFFECTIVE WAY OF
ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. THEY
REGAIN A SENSE OF PRIVACY,
STABILITY, AND ARE ABLE TO
REBUILD THEIR LIVES.
WE ALL DESERVE TO LIVE IN
DIGNITY.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I HAVE BEEN PART OF A
LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT HAS BEEN
BUILT IN TINY HOUSES AT CAMP
2nd CHANCE.
A MEMBER OF WESTSIDE INTERFAITH
NETWORK IN DISTRICT 1. THANK
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO YOU TODAY AND THANK
YOU FOR LEADERSHIP IN THESE
TROUBLING AND CHALLENGING
TIMES.
IT IS TIME TO REEVALUATE
PRIORITIES OF HOW WE USE
TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND THE
CITY.
I ASK YOU ADOPT THE PEOPLE'S
BUDGET, ONE'S THAT PUTS PEOPLE
IN COMMUNITY ABOVE ALL ELSE.
SHIFTING FUNDING AWAY FROM THE
POLICE AS THEY ARE WOEFULLY
DISAPPOINTING US IN THEIR
PRIORITIES.
YOU THINK WE HAVE A HOMELESS
PROBLEM NOW, JUST WAIT UNTIL
THE TRUE ECONOMIC CALAMITY HITS
US.
WE WILL BE READY TO HOUSE THE
THOUSANDS THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED
AND HOMELESS AND NEED TO FIND
15 MORE VILLAGES, A MODEL THAT
HAS PROVEN TO WORK THAT I HAVE
SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES.
AND IT IS A COST-EFFECTIVE
INVESTMENT FOR THE LONG TERM,
MUCH BETTER THAN SHORT-TERM.
THIS IS A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY TO
USE CARES FUNDING--
>> THANK YOU.
BRENDAN WALSH, WALK.
>> I AM A DISTRICT 3 RENTER AND
MICROSOFT EMPLOYEE AND I WANT
TO SAY I STAND IN SOLIDARITY
WITH THE DEMANDS FROM KING
COUNTY EQUITY NOW COALITION. I
BELIEVE WE SHOULD DISTRIBUTE
FROM THE BUDGET AND PUT IT INTO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY HEALTH PROGRAMS.
I MOVED HERE FROM NEW YORK
WHERE YOU AFTER YEAR WE KEPT
CUTTING AND CUTTING EDUCATION
AND HOUSING AND EVERYTHING,
JUST POURING MONEY INTO NYPD
AND ALL WE ENDED UP WITH WAS
THIS PARAMILITARY THAT BEATS
EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE CITY
AND GOES BACK HOME SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER AND
TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND I
THINK WE CAN USE OUR BUDGET
RESPONSIBLY FOR THAT.
>> SAMANTHA FOLLOWED BY REV.
ANGELA KING.
SAMANTHA, WALK HIM.
>> I'M CALLING SPECIFICALLY
WITH THE ASK THAT YOU DEFUND
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BY AT LEAST 50% IN LINE WITH
REQUESTS I KING COUNTY EQUITY
NOW.
AND ALSO, I WANT TO STATE THAT
I SEE THE NEED FOR FAMILY
SUPPORT BROKERS AND ALL OF OUR
SCHOOLS ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE
HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS THAT HAVE
BEEN TRAUMATIZED NOT ONLY BY
COVID-19 PANDEMIC SITUATION BUT
MORE SPECIFICALLY, BY THE
INTERACTIONS WITH SEATTLE POLICE
. I KNOW TOO MANY CHILDREN WHO
HAVE NOW EXPERIENCED TEARGAS
JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE
VICINITY OF A PEACEFUL PROTEST
OR WERE AT A PROTEST THAT THEY
EXPECTED TO BE PEACEFUL.
IS NOT OKAY AND WE NEED TO
DEFUND THE POLICE NOW.
>> DISTRICT 2 WITH MEMBERS IN
ALL DISTRICTS, BLACK LIES
LETTER MATTER.
8:46 CAN CHANGE THE LIFE OF A
HUMAN BEING IN THE WORLD
FOREVER.
WE URGE YOU TO SEEK COUNSEL TO
PASS THE SAWANT-TRAN06
LEGISLATION AND TAX AMAZON.
NUMBER 2, PASS PROGRESSIVE
REVENUE, NOT AN OFF-DUTY
BUDGET.
3, DEFUND THE POLICE BUDGET AS
OTHERS HAVE SAID, BY 50% OR
MORE SO THEY CANNOT USE
EXCESSIVE FORCE OR ANYTHING TO
HURT PEACEFUL PROTESTERS AND
PEOPLE STANDING FOR AN ANTI-
RACIST WORLD.
4, REVERSE THE TREND OF
DISPLACEMENT AND DISINVESTMENT
AND SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
JOBS, AND THE NEW DEALS BEHIND
OUR CITY.
5, MORE TINY HOUSE VILLAGES,
KEEPING HOMELESS OFF THE
STREETS, PROVIDE PUBLIC HEALTH
AND HOUSING FOR THE MOST HON.
IT IS TIME CITY COUNCIL TAKE
ACTION FOR RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
FOR ALL.
PLEASE STAND WITH THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
>> CHRIS, WELCOME.
>> I'M CALLING TO ECHO THE
CALLS FROM FELLOW CITIZENS TO
DEFUND THE SEATTLE POLICE AND
TAKE THE MONEY AND INVESTED IN
RESOURCES LIKE BUILDING TINY
HOUSE VILLAGES IMMEDIATELY
ESPECIALLY AS A REACTION TO THE
DEVASTATION OF COVID-19 ALONG
WITH OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE TAXING
AMAZON TO CREATE BETTER HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES IN SEATTLE
WASHINGTON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> HELEN LEE, AND KALEB McGARY.
HELEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH
US.
>> MY NAME IS HELEN FROM
DISTRICT 3 AND I'M JOINING IN
WITH EVERYONE CALLING FOR THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE
DEFUNDED BY AT LEAST 50%.
IN THE NEXT BUDGET I WORKED
WITH TEENAGERS AND ONE DAY I
CAME TO WORK AND THE TEENAGERS
CAME IN AND WERE LIKE SORRY, MY
VOICE IS GONE BECAUSE I WENT TO
A PROTEST AND I GOT TEAR GASSED
AND I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
HEINOUS.
I WANT TO JOIN THE OTHER DEMANDS
THAT FUNDING FROM THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BE
REALLOCATED TOWARD COMMUNITY
FUNDING AND ALSO FOR ALL
CHARGES FOR PROTESTERS TO BE
DROPPED AND THAT IS ALL CHARGES
FOR ALL PROTESTERS.
THERE ARE SOME STILL IN JAIL
AND NEED TO BE LET OUT RIGHT
NOW, AS WELL.
>> I AM A RENTER FROM DISTRICT 7
I FULLY SUPPORT THE CAUSE TO
FUND SEATTLE POLICE BY AT LEAST
50%.
THE BEHAVIOR VIOLENTLY
RESPONDING TO PEACEFUL PROTESTS
AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY WAS
HORRIFYING BUT PREDICTABLE.
SEATTLE POLICE HAVE BEEN
TERRORIZING OUR COMMUNITY FOR
AS LONG AS WE CAN REMEMBER.
THERE ARE AGENTS OF
INCARCERATION, THEY DESTABILIZE
COMMUNITIES, AND AS A BLACK MAN
THEIR PRESENCE PUTS MY LIFE AT
RISK.
AS POLICE ARE THE LEADING CAUSE
OF DEATH AMONG YOUNG BLACK MEN
IN AMERICA TODAY, THAT IS
UNACCEPTABLE.
IT IS TIME TO DEFUND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BY AT LEAST 50% AND
REALLOCATE THOSE 2 COMMUNITY-
BASED HEALTH AND SAFETY.
STOPPING SWEEPS AND INCREASE
PUBLIC HOUSING, THANK YOU.
ARE YOU WITH US?
WAITING FOR IT--
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, GO AHEAD.
>> THAT WAS NOT MY NAME, THAT'S
WHY I WAS CONFUSED.
MY NAME IS KAYLA.
>> LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.
CALEB FRASER IF YOU COULD HOLD
FOR ONE 2nd.
KAYLA McGEE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY, I
WANT TO HOLD CITY COUNCIL
ACCOUNTABLE FOR HEARING THE
VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SAYING
WE WANT TO DEFUND THE SEATTLE
PD AND I WANT TO ECHO THAT
SENTIMENT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY
COUNCIL IS NO LONGER DOING
HOMELESS SWEEPS AND TAKING MORE
MONEY FROM THE SEATTLE PD AND
INTRODUCING THOSE INTO MORE
SOCIAL PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY
AROUND HOUSING, EDUCATION, AND
SUPPORTING UNDERREPRESENTED
MINORITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE.
>> KAYLA SINCE WE CALLED YOU,
I'M GOING TO GO TO YOU. GO
AHEAD IF YOU ARE STILL WITH US.
>> MY NAME IS KAYLA FRASER.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
>> YES, WE CAN.
>> KAYLA FRASER, CONCERNED
CITIZEN.
I AM PRO-DEFUNDING THE POLICE
BY 50% WHOSE BUDGET IS GROSSLY
LARGER OF THOSE OF OTHER MORE
HELPFUL PROGRAMS.
MAYOR DURKAN AND OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS EXCEPT ONE
APPROVED A $15,000 SIGNING
BONUS FOR TRAINED OFFICERS TO
JOIN THE FORCE AND $75,000
INCENTIVE FOR NEW RECRUITS IN
AN EFFORT TO FILL 1467 FULL-
TIME JOBS WHICH WOULD MORE THAN
DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF POLICE WE
CURRENTLY HAVE.
WE ARE CONSISTENTLY HEARING THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS VOCALLY
ACKNOWLEDGE POLICE BRUTALITY
ISSUES AND HAVE KNOWN FOR A
WHILE.
IF YOU ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THE
POLICE BRUTALITY HAS BEEN AN
ISSUE OVER THE PAST YEAR WHY
WOULD YOU ELECT FUNDING FOR AN
INEFFECTIVE INCENTIVE PROGRAM
INSTEAD OF USING TAXPAYER
DOLLARS TO PROVIDE PROPER
TRAINING AND DE-ESCALATION
TACTICS?
I SAID MENTION VERSIONS OF THIS
ARE ADOPTED IN EVERETT AND
BELLEVUE.
WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM CAN
JUSTIFIED TO CONTINUE TO GET
MORE AND MORE MONEY TO A POLICE
FORCE THAT HAS BEEN UNDER
FEDERAL OVERSIGHT SINCE 2011?
THE FOLLOWING 3 PEOPLE ARE
STEFAN, STACY, AND PASTOR
REALLY SEALS.
ARE YOU WITH US?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM NOT LACK
NOR IS ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL
AND WE SHOULD LOOKING FOR BLACK
VOICES FOR LEADERSHIP AND
DIRECTION.
THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMEMBERS
GOING FORWARD TO ELIMINATE
POLICE BRUTALITY FROM THE SPD.
THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER
INVESTIGATION BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE FOR 4 YEARS.
MAYOR DURKAN NEEDS TO HOLD HER
POLICE ACCOUNTABLE.
JENNY KEEPS SAYING THERE ARE
SOME GOOD PROTESTERS AND BAD
PROTESTERS.
THE ONLY BAD GUYS IN THE
SITUATION ARE THE SEATTLE
POLICE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
HER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
SHE MUST IMMEDIATELY
IMMEDIATELY COMMIT TO DEFUNDING
POLICE AND INVESTING INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
I WANT TO END BY SAYING EVERY
TIME I HEAR HER SPEECH I LOSE
MORE FAITH AND VOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
OVER THE PAST WEEK MY FRIENDS
AND FAMILY HAVE BEEN CONTACTING
ME, SHOWING VIDEOS SAYING IS
THIS YOUR CITY?
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE KNOWN FOR.
I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WHEN
WE THINK OF MAYOR DURKAN,
HORRIBLE POLICE VIOLENCE. YOU
WORK FOR US.
I PUSH FOR THE COUNCIL TO
DEFUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND IMPEACH JENNY DURKAN.
>> MY NAME IS STEPHEN GREGO AND
I'M A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER SO
I'M COMING AT THIS FROM AN
EMOTIONAL PLACE.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE EFFECT
OF BRUTALITY ON THE BLACK
COMMUNITY AND I'M CALLING TO
DEMAND IMMEDIATE TO FUNDING AND
DISMANTLING OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY SPD WHICH
HAS A LONG HISTORY OF RACISM
AND VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PEOPLE
IN THIS CITY AND COUNTRY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US.
YOU STILL HAVE SOME TIME IF YOU
HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> JUST THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN
TO THE VOICES OF BLACK PEOPLE.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS TO
EXPERIENCE THIS EVERY DAY. AS
WHITE PEOPLE IT'S IMPORTANT TO
LISTEN TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY
AT THIS TIME.
>> THE NEXT PERSON IS STACY
JOHNSON.
>> I'M BOOKKEEPER AT GEORGETOWN
TINY HOUSE VILLAGE. THE SAFETY,
DIGNITY, AND COMMUNITY ARE
NECESSARY THINGS TO FEEL HUMAN
AGAIN AND BE ABLE TO CONTINUE
TO PROGRESS IN SOCIETY.
TINY HOUSE VILLAGES ARE THAT
PROGRESS.
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON HAS HAD
COVID IN ANY OF THESE VILLAGES.
PEOPLE COME HERE WILLINGLY.
EVERY DAY WE HAVE TO TURN
PEOPLE AWAY THAT WANT TO GET IN
HERE.
MAYBE IF YOU TAKE FUNDING AWAY
FROM THE COPS AND BUILD MORE
TINY HOUSE VILLAGES, PEOPLE
WILL COME HERE.
THEY WILL COME.
GIVE THE MONEY TO THE LIBRARY
TO BE OPEN 24-7.
>> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
PASTOR?
>> THANK YOU CITY
COUNCILMEMBERS.
I'M THE PASTOR OF CHRIST SPIRIT
CHURCH AND WE ARE ONE OF THE
SPONSORS OF THE TINY HOUSE
VILLAGE. I WOULD SAY THAT IT
PUT UP AND RECORD TALK TIME AND
HAS SERVED A PURPOSE AND HAS
BEEN A HIGHLIGHT FOR THE
PARTNERSHIP AND COLOR--
COLLABORATION OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. I
ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MANY WHO
HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ME.
I AM ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THE
LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO THE
MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT
TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE ARE
LIVING IN A TIME OF 2020 WERE
PERFECT VISION AND CITY
COUNCIL, I APPEAL TO YOU. WHAT
YOU ARE SEEING IS ACTUALLY WHAT
YOU ARE SEEING, AND PLEASE DO
NOT ALLOW THAT TO GO UNNOTICED
THE EFFECT THAT IT IS HAVING
AMONG THE BLACK IMPUNITY--
COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY IN THE
CENTRAL AREA.
>> I'M SORRY, THE TIME EXPIRED.
I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU
AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT OF THE TINY HOUSE
VILLAGE IN YOUR WORDS TODAY.
>> APOLOGIES FOR THE SHORT
TIME, FOLKS.
>> HIGH CITY COUNCIL. AND
CALLING TO SUPPORT COVID-19
MUTUAL AIDS OF DEFUNDING THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY
BLACK RESIDENTS BEING KEPT SAFE
AND ALSO CONDEMNING THE
PROSECUTION OF PROTESTERS.
THEY SHOULD BE INVESTING AGAIN
AND PROGRAMS AND SHOULD FUND
PROGRAMS THAT ELEVATE BLACK
INDIGENOUS VOICES, PROGRAMS
THAT SUPPORT BLACK INDIGENOUS
CHILDREN'S EDUCATION AND
PROGRAMS THAT FEED FAMILIES
SUFFICIENTLY.
IT SHOULD ESPECIALLY BE
BUILDING HOUSING THAT KEEPS
THEM HOUSED PERMANENTLY.
THIS IS WHAT THE BEGINNING OF
EQUITY IN OPERATIONS COULD LOOK
LIKE.
I'M A CHILDREN'S ADVOCATE AT A
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER AND I
SEE THE NEED FOR INVESTMENT AND
COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
>> I HOPE YOU DO SEND IN YOUR
LAST COMMENTS THERE.
ANDREW, WELCOME.
>> I'M A WALLINGFORD RESIDENT
AND SUPPORT THE BUDGET REQUEST
YOU ARE DOING TODAY AND SEATTLE
CITY COUNCILMEMBERS SEEKING TO
DEFUND THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS MUCH
MORE THAN JUST DEMILITARIZED IN
THE POLICE BECAUSE ELIMINATING
THE BUDGET FOR THE WEAPONS USED
IS PENNIES.
THE NEED TO REDUCE POLICE
PERSONNEL ESPECIALLY SWORN
OFFICERS AND REDIRECT FUNDING
TO ALTERNATIVE COMMUNITY
APPROACHES, AND EVIDENCE-BASED
WAY TO DO THAT IS INQUIRIES
INTO HOW RESIDENTS ARE USING
911.
THEY HAVE BEEN USING IT AGAINST
OTHER MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY
AND 34% OF SWORN OFFICERS ARE
911 OFFICER RESPONDERS.
ONE NEWSPAPER FOUND OVER 50%
WERE NOT CRIME CALLS BUT COLORS
IN WHERE WHICH THE CALLER WAS
REALLY INCONVENIENCED.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY 911 CALLS
IN SEATTLE ARE DISORDER CALLS
OR DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ARE
UNWANTED PERSONS?
WE COULD REDIRECT THOSE TO
OTHER SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE
POLICE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT SPECIFIC
QUESTION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
>> MY NAME IS JOE TURNER AND
I'M A MEMBER OF LOCAL 242 AND I
SUPPORT DEFUNDING THE POLICE
BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONALLY MYSELF
HAVE BEEN A TARGET OF THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
HARASSMENT AND I HAVE HAD
FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT
HAVE BEEN BRUTALIZED AND
MURDERED BY THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
SO DEFUNDING THEM BY 50%, WE
DESERVE TO TAKE ALL OF IT.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BRUTALIZED
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES FOR
AS LONG AS TIME AND IT'S NOT
RIGHT.
AND IT NEEDS TO STOP.
BY DEFUNDING, WE REALLOCATE
THOSE FUNDS BACK INTO THE BLACK
AND BROWN COMMUNITIES INTO
THEIR EDUCATION SYSTEMS AND
SOCIAL SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY
NEED THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS
THE KID THAT GROWS UP IN
BELLEVUE.
THAT'S HOW WE GET IT IS BY
TAKING MONEY AND REALLOCATING
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.
SORRY FRANCESCA, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
>> I'M CALLING TODAY IN SUPPORT
OF FULLY DEFUNDING AND
DISMANTLING THE POLICE AND
WOULD LIKE TO AMPLIFY THE
VOICES OF THOSE ON THE GROUND
WHO HAVE CREATED A SET OF
DEMANDS.
WHILE THERE ARE MANY AND ALL
ARE WORTHY BECAUSE THIS IS THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING,
DECENTRALIZATION-- ARTS AND
CULTURE TO REESTABLISH THE ONCE-
RICH CULTURAL IDENTITY OF
SEATTLE.
WE DEMAND FREE COLLEGE FOR THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON DUE TO THE
OVERWHELMING EFFECT THAT
EDUCATION HAS ON ECONOMIC
SUCCESS AND A CORRELATED
OVERWHELMING IMPACT OF POVERTY
OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
WE DEMAND A DECENTRALIZED
ELECTION PROCESS.
>> PLEASE DO SEND IN THE REST
OF YOUR COMMENTS, AS WELL.
SAMANTHA, ARE YOU WISH US WITH
US?
>> I'M SURE YOU THINK THE
GENEVA CONVENTIONS VIOLATIONS
DO NOT APPLY TO ACTIVE COMBAT,
SO EXPLAIN WHY YOUTH OUTFITTED
POLICE OFFICERS LIKE COMBAT
SOLDIERS AND GIVING THEM
WEAPONS THEY DON'T EVEN USE AT
WAR.
IF YOU ARE NOT AT WAR THEN THE
DEFINITION OF A TIER OF THIS
BECOMES RELEVANT WHICH IS A
PERSON WHO USES INTIMIDATION
AND ON LAUFER-- UNLAWFUL
IOLENCE.
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED BY
TERRORIST TACTICS AND AS
ELECTED OFFICIALS YOU SHOULD
KNOW IF YOU CONTINUE TO
ABANDONED THEM YOU WILL NOT
FORGET.
THEREFORE I-- CALL FOR
RESIGNATION AND DROP CHARGES
AGAINST PROTESTERS BECAUSE MAKE
NO MISTAKE, PROTESTS ARE
PATRIOTISM AND SHOULD COMMAND
YOUR RESPECT.
IT IS TIME TO ACT LIKE BLACK
RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION RIGHTS
MATTER.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I AM A FACILITATOR OF
WASHINGTON SOLIDARITY UNITY AND
PEACE.
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PLANS
ARE TO REDUCE THE BUDGET AND
KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTED TIME
LINE OF THOSE FUNDS BEING
REDUCED IS AND CAN WE EXPECT TO
SEE THOSE BEING REDISTRIBUTED
IN COMMUNITIES?
AND, IF IT IS BEING REALLOCATED
INTO COMMUNITIES WHERE
SPECIFICALLY IS IT GOING AND
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE
OUTCOME OF THE REALLOCATION.
THE COMMUNITY IS ACTING BASED
ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND
IMMEDIATELY RECIRCULATE THEM
BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO
PREVENT GENTRIFICATION AND
INCREASE FUNDING TO LOW INCOME
SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
DISTURBING CITYWIDE TAXES TO
LOWER INCOME AREAS. I YIELD THE
REST OF MY TIME.
>> I LIVE IN DISTRICT 4 AND
FULLY SUPPORT THE CALL TO
DEFUND SPD.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE
INDICATED THEY HAVE ONLY ONE
REAL CONFLICT RESOLUTION TOOL,
THE APPLICATION OF VIOLENCE.
IT IS DISPENSED IN A WAY THAT
PERPETUATES SYSTEMIC RACISM.
WE NEED TO RETHINK WHAT IT
MEANS TO KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE
AND RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
OFFICIALS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO
NON--- LONG OVERSIGHT AND
INVESTIGATED FOR RACIAL BIAS.
CAN INNOVATE A NEW SYSTEM OF
PUBLIC SAFETY INSTEAD OF BEING
AN OPPRESSIVE FORCE IN THE
LIVES OF MANY.
WE WILL TAKE 3 MORE PEOPLE AND
WILL HAVE TO CLOSE OUT, I
APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE FOLKS WHO
CALLED.
WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY
EVERY DAY OF BUDGET MEETINGS
GOING FORWARD SO THERE WILL BE
MORE OPPORTUNITIES.
THE LAST 3 SPEAKERS AND SASHA
ANDERSON.
>> MY NAME IS CHRIS FROM
DISTRICT 7. I REQUEST THE
COMMITTEE DRASTICALLY REDUCE
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET AND REALLOCATE THE
COMMUNITY TO FIND COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR AND ADDRESS
HOMELESSNESS.
I HAVE WITNESSED THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT USE VIOLENCE
AND TERROR AGAINST LEGAL
DEMONSTRATIONS AGAINST CITIZENS
INCLUDING MYSELF IN YOUR FELLOW
COUNCILMEMBERS THUS
PERPETUATING THE BRUTALITY THAT
WE WERE THERE TO PROTEST.
I SAW SOME OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS
ON THE FRONT LINE OF THE PROTEST
AND TAKE ACTIONS TO DEFUND THE
POLICE FOR THE SAKE OF BLACK
LIVES AND PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS.
THANK YOU.
>> HELLO COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY IS A
CONSTITUENT FROM CAPITOL HILL
DISTRICT 3 AND-- DEDICATED TO
ENDING YOUTH HOMELESSNESS.
THOSE ARE ALSO DOES
THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE SEE TO
INFLUENCE VIOLENCE SHOULD ALSO
HELP THE POPULATION
SPECIFICALLY INVESTING IN
COMMUNITY RESOURCES RATHER THAN
POLICING.
WE STAND WITH THE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZERS REQUEST TO REDUCE
THE BUDGET BY 50% AND
REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDING TO
RESOURCES THAT HELP COMMUNITIES
FLOURISH.
WE NEED TO INVEST IN
DIVERSIONARY AND THERAPEUTIC
RESOURCES AS OPPOSED TO
POLICING AND PUNITIVE MEASURES.
INCREASE POLICING IS FOUND THAT
IT DOES NOT LEAD TO A DECREASE
IN HOMELESSNESS AND IN FACT ON
SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS HAS
INCREASED. EVEN WHEN THE CITY
IS INCREASING MEASURES AGAINST
PEOPLE SLEEPING IN PUBLIC, THE
GREATEST ASSET IS THE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE RISEN UP AND WE NEED
LEADERS TO PAVE THE WAY FOR
CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SASHA
ANDERSON.
>> MY NAME IS SASHA ANDERSON
AND I'M THE OWNER AND DISTRICT
3 SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF
REDUCING THE BUDGET BY 50%.
FOR ME THIS IS JUST A START.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A DRASTIC
REDUCTION OF REALLOCATING
INTERVENTION.
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY POLICE
ARE NOT THE RIGHT RESPONSE FOR
MOST SITUATIONS, WE NEED TO
RECOGNIZE WHAT ACTUALLY KEEPS
US SAFE AND POLICE ARE NOT IT.
I WORK IN TECH AND WENT TO
WASHINGTON INFORMATION SCHOOL
AND WANT TO RAISE A QUESTION I
HAVE NOT HEARD ARTICULATED.
THIS IS NOT A CALL FOR
EFFICIENCY OR TO REPLAY
HEADCOUNT.
IT'S MAINTAINING THE CURRENT
SYSTEM WITH RESOURCES, I DO NOT
WANT TO SEE A BUDGET REDUCTION
THAT EXACERBATES EXISTING
VIOLENCE THROUGH SURVEILLANCE
AND ABUSIVE TECHNOLOGIES.
WE NEED A NEW SYSTEM FOR
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
POLICE SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS
TO MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS AND
SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE
TEAR GAS.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE SHIELDED
FROM LEGAL ACTION AND CERTAINLY
NO ONE SHOULD BE HIRED WITH A
RECORD OF SEXUAL OR DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE REST
OF YOUR TESTIMONY IF YOU COULD
EMAIL THAT TO US.
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE
DONE A FULL HOUR ON PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO
HAS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT
THAT WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE MEETING ESPECIALLY BECAUSE
WE KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE
ALREADY HAD TO LOG IN AND WAIT
GIVEN REMOTE ACCESS CHALLENGES.
SO, WE WILL HAVE THAT AT THE
BEGINNING OF EVERY PUBLIC
COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF
EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING.
TODAY IS A CONTINUATION OF THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE BEGAN 3
1/2 WEEKS AGO AND WE KNOW THERE
IS A LOT OF ANTICIPATION IN FOR
THE BILLS IN FRONT OF US WHICH
ARE ITEMS 1, 2-AND 3. BEFORE I
TURN IT OVER TO SPONSORS I
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CLERK
PLEASE READ ITEMS 1, 2, AND 3
INTO THE RECORD FOR US AND WE
CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ALL 3.
THANK YOU, BOTTOM CLERK.
>> COUNSEL BILL 119772.
RELATED TO TAXATION.
IMPOSING A PAYROLL EXPENSE
TACKLE PERSONS ENGAGING A
BUSINESS IN SEATTLE.
AUTHORIZING THE LOAN OF FUNDS
FROM THE HOUSING INITIATIVE--
HAS AN INCENTIVE FUND TO THE
GENERAL FUND.
119774, ESTABLISHING A SPENDING
PLAN FOR THE PROCEEDS GENERATED
FROM THE PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX
AUTHORIZED BY THE ORDINANCE
INTRODUCED AS COUNSEL BILL
119772 TO FUND IMMEDIATE CASH
AND ASSISTANCE FOR LOW-INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS IMPACTED BY THE
COVID-19 CRISIS IN 2020, AND
THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOCIAL
HOUSING THAT IS PERMANENTLY
AFFORDABLE, HIGH-QUALITY, AND
úENERGY-EFFICIENT TO FUND
HOUSING RELATED COMPONENTS OF
SEATTLE'S GREEN NEW DEAL AS
ARTICULATED IN RESOLUTION
31895, AND TO FUND OTHER
INVESTMENTS.
ALL 3 ITEMS ARE FOR BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION ONLY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COLLEAGUES, AGAIN AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, HE
EXPRESSED APPRECIATION TO
GOVERNOR INSLEE FOR AMENDING
THE GUIDANCE OFFERED TO SKIP
CITIES AND LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES
SO WE COULD CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATION.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
RESPONDING NOT ONLY TO THE
CRISIS THAT IS COVID-19 BUT
PLANNING FOR THE CRISIS THAT
WILL COME IN TERMS OF PUBLIC
HEALTH, AND ECONOMIC CRISIS
THAT WILL BE IMPOSED ON OUR
CITY.
AS WE DO SO WE KNOW THAT THERE
IS GOING TO BE A SHORTAGE OF
REVENUE AND A NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN
HOUSING, SOCIAL SERVICES, HUMAN
SERVICES, SMALL BUSINESS
SUPPORT, SUPPORT FOR IMMIGRANTS
AND REFUGEES AND MANY WHO NEED
RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
THESE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WE
BEGAN OVER A MONTH AGO AND
WHILE WE WERE ON HIATUS THERE
WERE A FEW CALLS THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS HELP.
I HELD AN ECONOMIC FORUM TO
HEAR FROM NATIONAL AND LOCAL
EXPERTS INCLUDING COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT HERE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT IMPACT COVID
WILL HAVE ON THEM.
NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL HEALTH
BUT THE ECONOMIC HEALTH AND I
WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A
LISTEN TO THE TO THAT.
WE TRIED TO DO THAT AS A WAY TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND
KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING AS WE
WAITED FOR NEW GUIDANCE TO COME
DOWN.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF
INTEREST IN CONTINUING THIS
DISCUSSION IN FIRST I WILL TURN
IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES TO REMIND US OF THE
LEGISLATION IN TODAY'S
CONVERSATION.
>>
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT SO
I WILL BE BRIEF.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REMIND FOLKS ABOUT WHAT WE ARE
DOING.
I WANTED TO TAKE US WAY BACK TO
2019. IF MY COLLEAGUES WILL
REMEMBER, WE HAD HUNDREDS OF
COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AND
FORUMS WHERE MANY OF US WERE
ASKED ONE QUESTION OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT
HOMELESSNESS?
WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AND
MANY QUESTIONS FROM
CONSTITUENTS, FROM OUR
COMMUNITIES ASKING OVER AND
OVER AGAIN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO DO ABOUT THE LACK OF HOUSING
FOR AVERAGE WORKERS?
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO
STOP THE DISPLACEMENT OF OUR
NEIGHBORS?
SO WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
HOUSING FIRST OR BUILDING
COMMUNITY WEALTH OR ANTI-
DISPLACEMENT STRATEGIES, A KEY
ELEMENT ANSWERING THESE
QUESTIONS IS HOUSING.
WE NEED MORE OF IT AND WE NEED
IT NOW.
SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE,
BEFORE WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS
AGAIN, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD
TO DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE
TODAY AND IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS,
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS
PROPOSAL IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE
ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE
IN THIS CITY.
SINCE WE EVEN ORIGINALLY
OFFERED THIS BILL THE WORLD HAS
SHIFTED IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE
SO WE ACKNOWLEDGE THERE ARE A
LOT OF ISSUES WE NEED TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT AND ARE
LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE
CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON
ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP
TOWARD FUNDING THE SOLUTIONS TO
LONG-STANDING PROBLEMS WE HAVE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THOUSANDS OF HOMES FOR PEOPLE
WHO NEED THEM, SERVICES FOR
NEIGHBORS TRANSITIONING OUT OF
HOMELESSNESS, AND ESPECIALLY
RIGHT NOW, COMMUNITY-LED
DEVELOPMENT ROOTED IN RACIAL
EQUITY.
THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND I
HAVE BROUGHT.
THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS WE ARE
TRYING TO SOLVE AND THE REASON
WHY WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MORE
EQUITABLE WAY TO FUND THE
SERVICES THAT WE NEED. I JUST
WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND THE
REASON WE ARE DOING THIS.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS
THAT CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN
ASKING FOR AND IN ORDER TO
SOLVE SOME OF THESE LONG-
STANDING CHALLENGES, WE HAVE TO
HAVE NEW SOURCES OF REVENUE TO
DO IT AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE
ABOUT TO EMBARK ON AS WE
DISCUSS HOW BEST TO DO THAT AND
HOW BEST TO PROVIDE SOME
SECURITY AND STABILITY FOR
NEIGHBORS.
>> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW
WORDS?
IN
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, I AM
REALLY GLAD THAT OUR OFFICES
HAVE BROUGHT THIS VERY
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION FORWARD
AND IT HAS BEEN MANY WEEKS.
THE COVID CRISIS HAS ALREADY
TAKEN ITS TOLL AND WILL
CONTINUE TO TAKE ITS TOLL.
AND, THE PANDEMIC AND THE LONG-
STANDING CRISIS BOTH TOGETHER
HAVE RESULTED WITH AN
APPROXIMATE CAUSE BUT NOT THE
FUNDAMENTAL CAUSE, AND HAS
RESULTED IN A RECESSION THAT IS
VERY QUICKLY TURNING INTO, IN
MANY ASPECTS, WORSE THAN THE
GREAT DEPRESSION.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A MASSIVE
ECONOMIC DEVASTATION FOR MANY
WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE. BUT, AS
ALWAYS, WE SEE THE
DISPROPORTIONATE COST OF THE
CRISIS AND DEATHS, THE LACK OF
HEALTHCARE AND ACCESS TO FOOD,
INCIDENTS OF JOBLESSNESS, AND
IRONICALLY, ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE COMPOSED OF ESSENTIAL
WORKFORCE WITHOUT HAZARD PAY AND
ADEQUATE PROTECTION AGAINST THE
PANDEMIC.
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON ALL OF
THESE FRONTS WE SEE BLACK AND
BROWN WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE AND
CHILDREN AND ELDERLY BEING
AFFECTED.
IT IS SO CRUCIAL THAT AFTER ALL
THIS DELAY THAT CITY COUNCIL
ACTUALLY TAKE SOME ACTION ON
THIS.
WE ARE IN A CITY WITH THE MOST
REGRESSIVE TAX SYSTEM.
THIS IS NOT ONLY AN OVERALL
CRISIS FOR WORKING-CLASS
FAMILIES.
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE
INCLUDING THE MIDDLE-CLASS.
THOSE OF US IN THE WORKING-
CLASS AND MIDDLE-CLASS WE
SHOULDER THE BRUNT OF THE TAX
BURDEN WHILE THE WEALTHIEST
PEOPLE MAKE 2.5% IN TAXES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVES
OF TOP CORPORATIONS LIKE AMAZON
AND MICROSOFT, THEY PAY LITTLE
TO NOTHING AND SOMETIMES WHEN
YOU ADD UP THE SUBSIDIES THEY
ARE PAYING NEGATIVE TAXATION.
THAT IS A STUNNING INJUSTICE
AND THE STATUS QUO WE HAVE HAD
FOR DECADES.
IT IS NOT ONLY THAT WE HAVE HAD
A MOMENTUM FOR THE AMAZON
LEGISLATION FOR A LONG WHILE
ESPECIALLY FOLLOWING THE
RESULTS OF LAST YEAR'S ELECTION,
IT IS ABSOLUTELY AT THIS MOMENT
WHEN WE HAVE A REBELLION BY
YOUNG PEOPLE AS WE HAVE SEEN IN
OUR MOVEMENT IN SEATTLE BUT
ALSO MINNEAPOLIS AND ATLANTA
AND MINNEAPOLIS.
MULTI-RACIAL WORKING-CLASS
YOUNG PEOPLE FIGHTING BACK
DEMANDING AN ANSWER AGAINST
RACISM AND POLICE VIOLENCE.
THOSE ACTIVISTS AND THAT
MOVEMENT HAVE ALSO POINTED OUT
THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE
ENOUGH FOR POLITICIANS TO SAY
BLACK LIVES MATTER.
WE HAVE TO PUT DOLLARS ON THE
LINE AS OTHERS HAVE SAID.
THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT AND
THE BIG BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT,
WE NEED TO SEE DOLLARS ON THE
TABLE TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE
ISSUES THAT BLACK COMMUNITIES
AND NEIGHBORS ARE FACING.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS PARAMOUNT IN
THE DEFUNDING OF SPD BY AT
LEAST 50%.
I AGREE WITH PEOPLE WHO SPOKE
IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY STARTING WITH
DEMILITARIZATION TAKING AWAY
THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE WEAPONS.
OUR LEGISLATION TO BAN CHEMICAL
WEAPONS IS GOING TO BE COMING
FOR A VOTE ON MONDAY.
WE ABSOLUTELY WANT A YES VOTE
BUT IT GOES BEYOND THE PURCHASE
OF THESE DEVASTATING WEAPONS.
WE ALSO NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT
AND ACTUALLY CUT THE BUDGET BY
AT LEAST HALF. AND, USE THOSE
FUNDS FOR GRASSROOTS
INITIATIVES.
NOT BIG ORGANIZATIONS.
PEOPLE ALREADY DOING THE WORK
FOR RESTAURANT OF JUSTICE.
ALONG THOSE LINES I JUST WANT
TO MAKE A FEW POINTS BECAUSE WE
ARE IN SUCH A UNIQUE MOMENT
THAT THIS IS ABOUT CITY COUNCIL
ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT WE ARE NOT
TONE DEAF TO THE MOVEMENT GOING
ON.
IT IS NOT JUST ANY MOVEMENT.
IT IS A HISTORIC MOMENT WE ARE
EXPERIENCING AND I WANTED TO
TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK-
- I DID THIS LAST NIGHT, BUT
THINK ALL OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
HUNDREDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES
FACING POLICE FIRE ANTS--
VIOLENCE AND BRUTALITY.
IT WAS MY HONOR AND DUTY TO BE
ABLE TO STAND WITH YOU AND GET
MACED AND TEAR GASSED. IT IS
UNACCEPTABLE THE MAYOR HAS
ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.
SHE IS GUESSING HER OWN PEOPLE
AND THE KIND OF COURAGE THAT IT
TAKES TO FACE THAT CANNOT BE
DESCRIBED IN WORDS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE
THE VICTORY THIS MOVEMENT HAS
WON BY DRIVING THE POLICE OUT
AND IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO STAY THERE PERMANENTLY.
WE NEED TO PERMANENTLY TAKE EACH
PRECINCT AWAY FROM THE POLICE
BUT ALSO DO NOT ACCEPT THAT IT
SHOULD BE VOTED OUT
PERMANENTLY, EITHER.
WE NEED CITY COUNCIL AND THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE TO CONVERT THIS
INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE ARE SPOILED FOR CHOICE IS
BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR NEEDS
ARE UNDERFUNDED.
I ALSO WANTED TO SAY IN
RELATION TO THE BUDGET, IN
ADDITION TO DEFUNDING, IN
ADDITION TO AMAZON TAX
LEGISLATION, WE ALSO WANT TO
ECHO THE DEMANDS OF THE KING
COUNTY EQUITY NOW COALITION
WHICH IS DEMANDING THE
DECOMMISSIONED FIRE STATION 6
BECOME THE WILLIAM GRILL SECTOR
FOR ENTERPRISE AND WE NEED TO
BRING THAT FORWARD, AS WELL.
THESE ARE CONCRETE INITIATIVES
THAT WILL BEGIN TO MAKE A DENT
IN THE GENTRIFICATION
DISPLACEMENT AND RACISM THAT
BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES HAVE
FACED.
I ALSO NEED TO MENTION THAT THE
TAX AMAZON LEGISLATION IS GOING
-- IS VERY MUCH RELATED TO THE
QUESTION OF INEQUITIES AND
RACISM TOWARDS COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN MOST
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY
THE SKYROCKETING RENT, BUY THE
COMPLETE DOMINATION OF THE
PRIVATE HOUSING MARKET, THE
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT
CORPORATIONS, THE BIG DEVELOPERS
, THE LAND PRICES THAT HAVE
SHOT UP, ALL OF THIS HAS
DISPROPORTIONATELY BADLY
AFFECTED COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
WHICH ON THE FLIPSIDE MEANS IF
WE ARE ABLE TO WIN TAXES ON BIG
BUSINESS TO CREATE REVENUE TO
BUILD SOCIAL HOUSING WHICH IS
PUBLICLY OWNED AND RENT-
CONTROLLED HOUSING, IT WILL
DISPROPORTIONATELY ALSO HELP
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO COME
BACK TO SEATTLE AND LIVE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEIR
ANCESTORS LIVED IN, AND LIVE IN
NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY
CREATED COMMUNITY AND WHERE
THEY HAVE HELPED BUILD THIS
CITY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT WE PUSH FOR THIS TO HAPPEN
AND I'M HAPPY WE WILL BE
CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS NOW.
I ALSO WANT TO ECHO COMMUNITY
MEMBERS WHO ARE SAYING-- AND
I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, THAT
ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE
ACTIVISTS ARE PROTESTERS SHOULD
BE PROSECUTED.
IT WOULD BE SHAMEFUL IF THE
CITY BROUGHT CHARGES AGAINST
THEM AND THEY SHOULD BE DROPPED
IMMEDIATELY.
IN FACT AS OTHERS HAVE SAID WE
SHOULD BE THANKING THEM FOR THE
HONORABLE THING THEY ARE
ENGAGED IN.
AND, WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITY
MEETINGS AS WELL AS OTHER
THINGS.
I WILL BE HOSTING THE BUDGET
TOWN HALL AS I DO EVERY YEAR ON
THE AS I DO EVERY YEAR ON 16
JUNE SO WE CAN DISCUSS, THE
MOVEMENT CAN DISCUSS THE
DEMANDS FROM THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT AND FROM CAPITOL HILL
OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND FOR THE TAX AMAZON
LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU.
>> WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK
THE FOLKS FROM CENTRAL STAFF ON
THE LINE WITH US.
I SEE DAN 25, TOM MIKESELL,
ANYBODY ELSE HERE WITH US?
CENTRAL STAFF HAS BEEN BUSY
PREPARING ISSUE IDENTIFICATION
MEMOS AND A POWERPOINT
PRESENTATION.
COLLEAGUES YOU SHOULD ALSO HAVE
RECEIVED THOSE IN YOUR EMAIL.
THANK YOU FOR WAITING WITH US.
WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO
WALK US THROUGH THE
PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE IN
THE ISSUE IDENTIFICATION MEMOS.
>> THANK YOU, MDM.
CHAIR.
AS THE FIRST BILL ON THE AGENDA,
119772 I WILL T THIS OFF FROM
MY COLLEAGUES. IT WILL BE ME
DISCUSSING THE TAX BILL FIRST
AND THEN DAN EDER COVERING THE
LOAN LEGISLATION AND ALY
PENNUCCI AND TRACI RATZLIF
WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE
SPENDING PLAN LEGISLATION.
WITH REGARDS TO COUNSEL BILL
119772-- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE--
THANK YOU.
AS WE HAVE HAD A SERIES OF
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE
DELAYED, WE DID HAVE A FAIRLY
ROBUST OVERVIEW PROVIDED IN
THOSE PRIOR MEETINGS.
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE A LIGHT
TOUCH TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND
DIVE INTO THE ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION AND THOSE
AMENDMENTS OF WHICH WE ARE
AWARE.
WITH REGARDS TO THE CORPORATE
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX, THIS IS
DESIGNED TO GENERATE ANNUAL
REVENUE OF $500 MILLION FROM
CORPORATE PAYROLLS.
THE STRUCTURE IS A RATE OF 1.3%
ON GENERAL BUSINESS PAYROLLS
ABOVE $7 MILLION PER YEAR.
THOUGH, THERE ARE SOME
SPECIFICALLY-EXEMPTED
BUSINESSES THAT ARE INCLUDED.
THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE
NONPROFIT, EDUCATIONAL,
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYERS, GROCERY
STORES, AND BUSINESSES THAT THE
CITY IS OTHERWISE NOT LEGALLY
ELIGIBLE TO TAX.
>> THE LEGISLATION WAS TO HAVE
AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 1,
2020.
I WILL TOUCH ON THE
IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.
>> THERE ARE GENERALLY 3 AREAS
TO COVER WITH ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
THE FIRST IS WITH REGARDS TO
TECHNICAL AND CLARIFYING
CORRECTIONS.
AS I MENTIONED PRIOR, THE
EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS BILL WAS
INTRODUCED IN APRIL AND
EFFECTIVE JUNE 1. WAS GIVEN THE
DELAY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
ORDER.
WE FIND OURSELVES IN JUNE AFTER
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE
LEGISLATION, SO STAFF HAS
PREPARED AN AMENDMENT WHICH
WOULD REVISE THE EFFECTIVE DATE
OF THIS BILL TO JULY 1 OF 2020.
FROM A MEANINGFUL STANDPOINT,
WHAT THAT MEANS IS LESS
COLLECTION THAT WILL EVENTUALLY
BE RECEIVED FROM THE TAX.
THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY REVISE
THE FIRST YEAR OF THE TAX
LIABILITY FROM $286.1 MILLION
TO $245.5 MILLION.
AGAIN, THE OPTIONS WOULD BE TO
TAKE NO ACTION AND HAVE
LEGISLATION PROCEED AS
INTRODUCED, OR ADOPT THE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENT WHICH IS
ATTACHED TO THE STAFF MEMO.
THE NEXT LARGER CATEGORY ISSUE
IS WITH REGARDS TO EXEMPTIONS.
I WENT THROUGH THIS LIST PRIOR.
THAT LIST CAN BE EXPANDED,
REDUCED, OR OTHERWISE MODIFIED
AND THERE ARE, IN FACT, 2
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
PROPOSED THAT DO JUST THAT.
FIRST IS AMENDMENT TO 2 WHICH
IS INTRODUCED BY A CLOSE
SPONSOR, COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INCREASE
THE LIST OF EXEMPTIONS TO
INCLUDE CONSUMER-DIRECTED
EMPLOYERS AND HOME CARE
AGENCIES AS DEFINED IN
WASHINGTON STATE LAW.
CONSUMER-DIRECTED EMPLOYER
WOULD INCLUDE A PRIVATE ENTITY
THAT CONTRACTS WITH THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL AND MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES, AND EMPLOYER
OF INDIVIDUAL PROVIDERS FOR
PERFORMING ADMINISTRATIVE
FUNCTIONS, AND A HOME CARE
AGENCY WHICH INCLUDES A PERSON
ADMINISTERING OR PROVIDING HOME
CARE SERVICES DIRECTLY OR
THROUGH A CONTRACT ARRANGEMENT
AND PLACES OF TEMPORARY OR
PERMANENT RESIDENTS.
>> SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD MAKE
A REVISION TO ONE OF THE
CURRENT EXEMPTIONS IN THE BILL.
THIS IS IN REGARDS TO GROCERY
STORE, THE DEFINITION OF
GROCERY STORY.
AS INTRODUCED, THE BILL SETS
THE THRESHOLD FOR WHAT
DETERMINES WHETHER BUSINESSES
ARE A GROCERY STORE OR NOT, AT
75%.
SO THE ANNUAL SALES OF THE
BUSINESS WOULD BE 75% FROM THE
SALE OF TAX-EXEMPT FOOD
PRODUCTS AS DEFINED IN STATE
LAW.
BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM
STAKEHOLDERS THERE WAS CONCERN
ABOUT THE SCOPE AND WHETHER THE
THRESHOLD WAS CAPTURING WHAT
THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION
AS INTRODUCED WAS.
SO THERE IS, UNDER
CONSIDERATION, A REDUCTION OF
THAT THRESHOLD AMOUNT WHICH
WOULD INCLUDE A LARGER SET OF
BUSINESSES IN THAT CATEGORY.
HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME, THE
EXACT PERCENT IS STILL BEING
DEVELOPED AS A PLACEHOLDER
AMENDMENT IS BEING PROPOSED.
IT WILL BE UPDATED IN TIME FOR
AN ACTUAL INTRODUCTION WITH
MORE DATA AS WE RECEIVE THAT.
AND THEN A FINAL ISSUE WITH
REGARDS TO BUSINESS STRUCTURES
AND HOW THE DEFINITION OF
SEATTLE PAYROLL EXPENSE IN THE
BILL IS DEFINED. THERE WERE A
FEW DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE
BUSINESS ARRANGEMENTS TO WHICH
THE BILL WAS SILENT BUT WAS
EXPANDED UPON BY STAFF IN
PRESENTATION.
THOSE INCLUDED FRANCHISE
BUSINESSES WHICH ARE BUSINESSES
THAT CAN OPERATE THROUGH
LICENSING ARRANGEMENTS WITH
LARGER NATIONAL OR REGIONAL
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THERE ARE,
IN FACT, DISCRETE INDIVIDUAL
BUSINESSES FOR THE PURPOSES OF
DETERMINING TAX LIABILITY.
NEXT WOULD BE INTEGRATED
BUSINESS-- SORRY.
INTEGRATED ENTERPRISES WHICH
ARE SEPARATE, DISCRETE
BUSINESSES THAT IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES OR ARE OTHERWISE
CONTROLLED BY LARGER
ORGANIZATIONS OR INTERESTS AND
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS TAX,
EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL
BUSINESSES WOULD BE TREATED
SEPARATELY FOR DETERMINING
WHETHER THEY MEET THE THRESHOLD.
IN BOTH THE CASE, AS
INTRODUCED, FRANCHISED
BUSINESSES AND INTEGRATED
BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, THERE IS
NO EDUCATION-- AGGREGATION.
AN AMENDMENT WHICH IS INCLUDED
AS ATTACHMENT D WOULD, IN FACT,
REVISE LEGISLATION SUCH THAT
INTEGRATED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES
WOULD BE AGGREGATED AND TESTED
AGAINST THE $7 MILLION
THRESHOLD WHICH WOULD HAVE THE
EFFECT OF INCREASING THE
COVERAGE OF THE TAX TO A LARGER
SET OF HIS MISSES.
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES AND
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED AND THAT STAFF IS AWARE
OF AT THIS TIME.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STATEMENTS
AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS FROM
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CALLINGS YOU ALSO HAVE A
CENTRAL STAFF MEMO THAT
PROVIDES MORE INFORMATION AND
DETAIL ABOUT THESE OPTIONS.
I WANT TO THANK CENTRAL STAFF
AGAIN.
WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN
TREMENDOUSLY BUSY WITH
EVERYTHING THAT'S OCCURRING SO
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND
THEN SOME.
COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INFORMATION
SHARED ON THIS PORTION OF THE
PRESENTATION?
JUST GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH
HERE. I NEED TO SEE IF FOLKS
HAVE THEIR HANDS UP.
FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR SEND ME A
MESSAGE.
I SEE NO HANDS UP. LET'S
CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SO SORRY.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WAS TRYING TO WAVE AND
NOTHING.
>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING MY
ATTENTION TO IT, THANK YOU.
>> JUST A CLARIFICATION, THE
PAYROLL TAX IS BASED ON PAYROLL
IN 2019, CORRECT?
>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT FOR
2020 PURPOSES.
IT WOULD BE BASED ON 2019, SO
WHEN WE MOVE INTO 2021, IT
WOULD BE BASED OFF OF 2020
PAYROLL AND MOVED DOWN THE LINE
SO ANY YEAR IT'S CASTING
BACKWARDS TO THE PRIOR YEAR TO
SEE WHAT THAT PAYROLL WAS.
>> GIVEN THAT THE REALITY OF
BUSINESSES THAT WERE ELIGIBLE
IN 2019 BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE
THAN $7 MILLION IN PAYROLL,
MIGHT BE VERY DIFFERENT IN 2020
. SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES,
IT'S FEASIBLE, NOT LIKELY BUT
SOME MAY BE FILING FOR
BANKRUPTCY THIS YEAR.
OR, HAVING SOME OTHER SORT OF
EXTREME ECONOMIC RESET THAT
WOULD MEAN THAT PAYROLL MAY BE
DRASTICALLY REDUCED IN 2020
FROM WHERE IT WAS IN 2019.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION
ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE
POTENTIAL OUTCOME OF THE COVID-
19 CRISIS ON THE ECONOMY AND
INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES THAT MAY
HAVE BEEN DOING VERY WELL IN
2019 AND MAY NOT BE DOING WELL
IN 2020?
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER.
THERE ARE 2 QUESTIONS AND, I
GUESS, 2 WAYS TO ANSWER THAT.
ONE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE TAX
LIABILITY.
SO FIRST, IF A BUSINESS HAS A
LOWER PAYROLL THIS YEAR DUE TO
COVID-19, THEY WOULD BE PAYING
-- THEY WOULD, INDEED, BE
PAYING TAX BASED ON THE LOWER
PAYROLL SO IN 2019 IF THEY WERE
ABOVE THE THRESHOLD BUT THEN IN
2020, BELOW, THEY WOULD STILL
BE ELIGIBLE BUT HOWEVER WOULD
BE PAYING TAXES OFF OF THE
LOWER AMOUNT IN 2020.
SO THAT IS FROM A TECHNICAL
PERSPECTIVE HOW IT WOULD WORK.
WITH REGARDS TO THE LARGER
ECONOMIC QUESTION OF HOW DOES
THE REVENUE LOOK AFTER TAKING
THE LARGE SET OF THE BUSINESS
RESPONSE INTO CONSIDERATION,
THEIR STAFF, DOING THE SETTING
OF THE RATE WASTE ON THE
REVENUE TARGET, DID A PLAY A
REDUCTION TO THE TOTAL PAYROLL
ESTIMATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE
OTHERWISE EXPECTED THIS YEAR TO
ACCOUNT FOR INDIVIDUAL ECONOMIC
CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> A BUSINESS THAT HAD $7
MILLION IN PAYROLL IN 2017 BUT
MAY ONLY HAVE $5 MILLION OF
PAYROLL IN 2020 WILL STILL HAVE
TO PAY THE TAX BUT THEY WILL BE
PAYING IT BASED ON $5 MILLION
PAYROLL THEY WILL HAVE IN 2020.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO
ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF A
HARDSHIP CLAUSE?
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT IS IN
THE SPIRIT OF, MY
UNDERSTANDING, THE PURPOSE OF
THE THRESHOLD, TO MAKE A
BUSINESS THAT IS SEEING A
REDUCTION IN STAFF AND LIKELY A
REDUCTION IN PROFITS, IN THOSE
INSTANCES, TO STILL HAVE TO PAY
THE PAYROLL TAX WHEN THEY ARE
HAVING TO POTENTIALLY LAY
PEOPLE OFF.
I'M WONDERING, WOULD THERE BE A
WAY TO STRUCTURE A HARDSHIP
CLAUSE THAT IF YOUR PAYROLL IS
REDUCED BY X PERCENT OVER WHAT
YOU REPORTED IN 2019, THAT IT
WOULD BE A DIFFERENT TAX RATE
THAT YOU WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM
HAVING TO PAY.
>> WE-- AT FIRST IT SEEMS LIKE
IT COULD BE STRUCTURED IN SUCH
A WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE
TYPES OF PROVISIONS.
REFRESHING BACK TO EARLIER
DISCUSSIONS, EVEN THOUGH THE
LIABILITY DOES GO INTO EFFECT
THIS YEAR THERE ARE NO
EFFECTIVE PAYMENTS UNTIL, YOU
MAY RECALL, FEBRUARY 2022. SO
THE IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE OVER
A NUMBER OF MONTHS EXTENDING TO
2021 SO FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION
STANDPOINT THERE COULD BE A WAY
TO STRUCTURE THAT AND STAFF
WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE LAW
DEPARTMENT TO FIND THE CORRECT
LANGUAGE TO AFFECT THAT CHANGE.
AND, WE CAN WORK WITH YOU AND
OTHERS TO PUT TOGETHER AN
AMENDMENT THAT WOULD DO THAT,
IF DESIRED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> REAL QUICK, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT, I WANTED TO ASK ONE
MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION.
CAN YOU TELL US ONE MORE TIME
HOW NONPROFITS AS A WHOLE ARE
CATEGORIZED IN THIS BILL?
>> YES, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THE CATEGORIZATION OF NONPROFITS
IS FAIRLY BROAD TO INCLUDE A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES
WITHIN FEDERAL TAX LAW.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE AT MY
FINGERTIPS, THOUGH THE NET WAS
CAST WIDE AND THAT
CATEGORIZATION AND IS LARGER
THAN THE TRADITIONAL 5013C.
BUT, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE
SPECIFICITY THAN THAT.
>> COLLEAGUES, CAN I SINCE I
CANNOT SEE EVERYONE AT THE
SHARED SAME TIME, PLEASE
MESSAGE ME OR GO AHEAD AND
CHIME IN IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION
YOU'D LIKE TO ASK AND I WILL
GET YOU IN THE QUEUE.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> I HAVE CLARIFICATIONS TO ADD.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING THESE
QUESTIONS, AND TOM GAVE A LOT
OF CLARIFICATION.
I JUST WANT TO ADD A FEW POINTS
TO THAT BUT ALSO TO GIVE A
LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO
WHETHER THIS IS A HARDSHIP WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT-- BEFORE THAT,
YOU ASKED AN IMPORTANT QUESTION
ABOUT NONPROFITS.
I THINK WE CAN SAY VERY SIMPLY
THAT WE ARE CASTING A WIDE NET,
BUT TO PUT IT IN A SIMPLER WAY,
IS THAT ALL NONPROFITS ARE
EXEMPT.
WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY IN
THE DRAFT BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK
THAT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
SHOULD BE PAYING THE TAX IN ANY
WAY.
IS MEANT TO BE A 4-PROFIT
BUSINESS TAX SO REST ASSURED
KNOW NONPROFITS ARE GOING TO BE
BACKED IF THIS LEGISLATION GOES
INTO EFFECT.
AND ALSO, TO GO BACK TO THE
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
THE WORD HARDSHIP WAS USED.
I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS IN
PERSPECTIVE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMPANIES
THAT HAVE AT LEAST A $7 MILLION
THRESHOLD OF CORPORATE PAYROLL.
AND, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 1%
TAX ON THE LARGEST BUSINESSES.
IT IS ONLY A 1% TAX ON THE
CORPORATE PAYROLL SO IF YOU
LOOK AT THE OVERALL EARNINGS OF
THAT CORPORATION, IT WILL OFTEN
COME OUT LESS THAN 1% OF
OVERALL EARNINGS SO WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT A VERY, VERY
MINOR COMPONENT THAT WOULD BE
TAXED. I WOULD SAY THE TAX
BURDEN IS QUITE LIGHT TO BEGIN
WITH AND THE HARDSHIP WE WILL
BE SEEING AND THAT WE ARE
ALREADY SEEING, IS ALMOST
ENTIRELY BY WORKING FAMILIES
AND SMALL BUSINESSES, NEITHER
OF WHICH WOULD BE TAXED EVEN
REMOTELY IN THIS LEGISLATION.
THE WHOLE POINT IS TO ADDRESS
THE-- OF TAXES THAT WE HAVE.
THE COMPANY WHO HAD $7 MILLION
OF PAYROLL IN 2019 BUT SAW A
REDUCTION IN 2020 WILL HAVE A
TAX BILL OF $91,000.
EVEN IF THEY HAD A REDUCTION IN
THE NEXT YEAR THEY STILL HAVE
TO PAY THE TAX ON THE LAST
YEARS PAYROLL.
AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY BUT
WILL HAVE A TAX BILL OF 91,000.
PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT
IS NOTHING.
AS WAS JUST NOTED THEY WILL
HAVE A FULL 18 MONTHS TO PAY.
COMPARE THAT TO THE KIND OF
CONDITIONS THAT THE MAJORITY
ARE FACING.
ONCE THE MORATORIUM IS LISTED
HE WILL NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES
TO START PULLING UP RENT AND
BACK RENT AND SO ON.
ANOTHER THING TO PUT THIS IN
PERSPECTIVE, AMAZON IS ONE OF
THOSE, IT IS A PANDEMIC
PROFITEER, BUT WE ARE ALSO
TALKING ABOUT MAJOR LAW FORMS.
LAW FIRMS.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
BIGGEST STEEL FARM IN THE
COMPANY LOCATED IN DISTRICT 1.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WELLS FARGO
WHICH HAS EXPLOITED COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR FOR YEARS AND WAS ALSO
PROSECUTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, AND WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE ARE
SOME EXAMPLES OF CORPORATIONS
THAT WOULD BE TAX-FREE AND WE
ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SMALL OR
MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES BY ANY
MEANS.
WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT TALKING
ABOUT WOKING FAMILIES.
SO WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS
LEGISLATION FORWARD BECAUSE
THIS WAS TECHNICALLY A LEGALLY-
FEASIBLE WAY TO MEASURE THE
BEST AND MOST ACCURATE THING.
IF COUNCILMEMBER HER BOLD OR
HAVE OTHER IDEAS OF IDENTIFYING
THESE BUSINESSES, I WOULD
WELCOME THOSE SUGGESTIONS SO
THAT WE CAN PASS PROGRESSIVE
LEGISLATION.
>> I SEE COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
NODDING AS WELL.
IT'S HARD TO SEE ALL OF THE
COUNCILMEMBERS WHEN WE ARE
DOING ONE VIDEO AT A TIME BUT
I'M GOING TO ASK, IF THERE ARE
OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS
LEGISLATION, WE HAVE 2 WERE
PIECES TO GET THROUGH.
PAUSING IN CASE ANYBODY IS MUTED
. OKAY, GREAT.
LET'S CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH
THE POWERPOINT HESITATION AND
BACK OVER TO CENTRAL STUFF.
>> THIS IS DAN EDER DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL STAFF
TEAM . MY PORTION OF THE
PRESENTATION ADDRESSES THE
INTER-FUND LOAN BILL.
AT THE APRIL 29 BUDGET
COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE WALKED
THROUGH A DETAILED DISCUSSION
AND TODAY I WILL PROVIDE A
BRIEF OVERVIEW AND SUMMARY OF
THE BILL AND WILL TEE UP 3
POTENTIAL ISSUES FOR
CONSIDERATION AND ADDRESS ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AS YOU JUST FINISHED
DISCUSSING, REVENUE FROM A
PROPOSED BILL WILL NOT BE
AVAILABLE TO SPEND UNTIL THE
2021 BUDGET.
THE INTERFUND LOAN BILL IS
THEREFORE PROPOSED TO SERVE AS
A BRIDGE BETWEEN REVENUES FROM
THE TAX BILL THAT I JUST SPOKE
ABOUT, AND THE PLANNED 2020
SPENDING THAT WOULD BE
AUTHORIZED THROUGH A SEPARATE
BILL THAT WE WILL DISCUSS NEXT.
THE INTER-FUND LOAN BILL WOULD
AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO BORROW
FROM THE CONSOLIDATED CASH POOL
AND NAME SPECIFIC SOURCE FUNDS
WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO
PAY FOR 2020 SPENDING.
IN PARTICULAR THE BILL WOULD
AUTHORIZE UP TO $50 MILLION
FROM EACH OF 6 SOURCE FUNDS UP
TO A CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF $200
MILLION IN BORROWED AMOUNTS
PLUS INTEREST AND WOULD THEN BE
REPAID-- I'M SORRY, WITH A
FUTURE FLOW OF TAX REVENUES.
THE SOURCE FUNDS WERE SELECTED
TO PROVIDE A RANGE OF OPTIONS
THAT MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE THE
IMPACT ON PLANNED SPENDING FOR
PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS.
AND, LIKE THE TAX BILL AND
SPENDING BILL, THE INTERFUND
LOAN BILL INCLUDES AN EMERGENCY
CLAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A
THREE QUARTERS SUPER MAJORITY
OF COUNCILMEMBERS, AND FOR THE
MAYOR TO SIGN IT.
>> THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS
INFORMATION WHICH IS INCLUDED
ON YOUR AGENDA IN A STAFF MEMO.
THERE ARE 3 ISSUES WHICH I HAVE
TEED UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE FIRST IS SOURCE FUNDING.
AS I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO,
THE BILL IDENTIFIES 6 SEPARATE
FUNDS THAT WOULD SERVE AS
POTENTIAL SOURCES FOR UP TO
$200 MILLION IN THE COMMUNITY
ALONE.
THOSE ARE FOR LOW INCOME
HOUSING, THE MOVE SEATTLE FUND,
THE FAMILY'S EDUCATION
PRESCHOOL AND PROMISE FUND, THE
2019 LIBRARY LEVY FUND, THE
PARKS DISTRICT FUND, AND
SOMETHING CALLED A HOUSING
INCENTIVE FUND. WE HAVE
DISCOVERED IN THE WEEKS SINCE
OUR LAST DISCUSSION THAT THE
HOUSING INCENTIVE FUND IS
ACTUALLY A SUB- FUND THAT
SUPPORTS THE LOW INCOME HOUSING
FUND AND AS A TECHNICAL
CORRECTION, THE COUNCIL SHOULD
CONSIDER REMOVING THAT FIXED
FUND FROM THE LIST OF
AUTHORIZED SOURCE FUNDING.
THAT IS THE FIRST ISSUE I BRING
TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE OPTIONS
ARE DO NOTHING, ESSENTIALLY NO
ACTION, OR REMOVE THE HOUSING
INCENTIVE FUND FROM THE LIST OF
SOURCE FUNDING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE FIRST ISSUE?
I WILL WALK THROUGH ALL OF THE
ISSUES AND THEN ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS AT THE END.
>> THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
>> THE 2nd ISSUE IS THE
AUTHORIZED SOURCE FUND AMOUNTS.
AGAIN, HARKENING BACK TO OUR
DISCUSSION ON APRIL 29 THE LAST
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING, CBO
UPDATED THE LOW INCOME HOUSING
FUND ENDING FUND BALANCE THAT
HAD BEEN IN THE RANGE OF $146
MILLION BUT THE UPDATED
ESTIMATE IS THAT THAT FUND
ALONE WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY
$257 MILLION AT THE END OF 2020
AVAILABLE FOR AN INTER-FUND LOW.
THE ACTION IN THIS ISSUE WOULD
BE TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE
AUTHORIZED LOAN AMOUNT FROM THIS
FUNDING SOURCE TO BE FOR THE
ENTIRE $200 MILLION CUMULATIVE
LOAN.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS
POTENTIAL CHANGE,
COUNCILMEMBERS COULD EITHER
LEAVE INTACT THE OTHER
REMAINING SOURCE FUNDS OR DROP
THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE
OTHERS AND LEAN ENTIRELY ON LOW
INCOME HOUSING.
>> THE 3rd ISSUE IS THE
CUMULATIVE LOAN AMOUNT.
AS I MENTIONED, THE CUMULATIVE
INTERFUND LOAN AMOUNT FROM ANY
SUBSIDIARY SOURCES IS $200
MILLION.
COUNCILMEMBERS COULD LEAVE THE
AMOUNT AS IS AS A MATTER OF
POLICY CHOICE. YOU COULD
INCREASE THE AMOUNT, OR YOU
COULD AUTHORIZE A LOWER
CUMULATIVE INTERFUND.
IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE THE LOAN
AMOUNT TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN
$200 MILLION, THAT WOULD, OF
úCOURSE, AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO
SPEND.
YOU WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY IF
YOU INCREASED THE CUMULATIVE
AMOUNT, OR LESS MONEY IN 2020
IF YOU HAVE A LOWER CUMULATIVE
INTERFUND LOAN AMOUNT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE ISSUES THAT
STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED AND WE
ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DAN?
OKAY.
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, ANY
QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE.
YOU ARE ON MUTE STILL AND I SAW
YOUR NOTE REQUESTING THE
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
ONE QUESTION AS IT RELATES
SPECIFICALLY TO THE INTERFUND
LOAN, I SHOULD PROBABLY QUALIFY
THIS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT
LIMITED TO THE LOAN.
IT IS TANGENTIALLY CONNECTED TO
IT BUT IS MORE OF A HOW ARE WE
IN THE FUTURE GOING TO PAY--
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER
INTERFUND LOAN IN THE FUTURE?
THE WAY THAT I SEE IT IS WE ARE
CONTEMPLATING TAKING A LOAN OF
$200 MILLION SO THAT WE CAN
SPEND SOME OF THESE FUNDS IN
2020 WHERE THERE IS GREAT NEED.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE
COLLECTING FUNDS UNTIL 2022 SO
WE ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING
$500 MILLION IN 2021 THAT WE
WILL NOT HAVE COLLECT IT AGAIN.
SO THAT CREATES A NEED, IT
SEEMS, TO PAY BACK $400 MILLION.
THAT 200 THAT WE SPENT THIS YEAR
AND THE 500 WE WILL SPEND NEXT
YEAR, BEFORE THE COLLECTION OF
FUNDS IN 2022.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE ASKED THIS
BEFORE A CENTRAL STAFF AND
THERE HAS BEEN SORT OF
REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT IT
IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR THE CITY TO
SPEND BUDGETED FUNDS AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BEFORE
THEY HAVE COLLECTED THEM AND
THERE IS SOME ACCOUNTING MAGIC
THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IT.
I HAVE ASKED FOR AND NOT
RECEIVED AN EXPLANATION OF
EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS, AND
WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE, AS A
PRACTICE, HAVE DONE IT TO THIS
SCALE OF $700 MILLION THAT WE
ARE BASICALLY LOOKING AT SORT OF
FRONTING, AS I UNDERSTAND, AT
THE BEGINNING OF 2021.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, MY READ OF
THAT IS SIMILAR TO YOURS BUT A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE $200 MILLION LOAN WOULD, IN
2020, NOT BE REPAID UNTIL THE
VERY END OF THE BUDGET YEAR FOR
2021 WHICH INCLUDES SOME MONTH
OR SO OF 2022.
THE WAY THAT OUR BOOKS WORK IS
SOME REVENUES COME IN AFTER
DECEMBER 31 OF THE CALENDAR YEAR
AND ARE STILL COUNTED TOWARD
THAT SAME CALENDAR YEAR.
SO, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE
FLOW OF TAX REVENUES FROM THE
NEW PAYROLL TAX WOULD BEGIN
EFFECTIVELY FEBRUARY 1 OF 2022.
THE ENTIRETY OF THE FUNDING
RECEIVED BY THAT DATE WOULD
ACCRUE BACK TO THE 2021 BUDGET
AND BE AVAILABLE FOR SPENDING
IN 2021.
IT WOULD BE AT THAT TIME WE
WOULD REPAY THE $200 MILLION
INTERFUND LOAN FROM 2020 AND
WOULD ALSO HAVE, FOR THE FIRST
TIME, CASH EXPECTED TO COVER
THE EXPENSES THAT ARE INCURRED
IN 2021.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THAT IS
SIMILAR TO HOW SEVERAL PROPERTY
TAX MEASURES WORK WHERE THERE
IS TYPICALLY A CHUNK OF MONEY
RECEIVED IN APRIL AND OCTOBER
OF THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING THE
MONEY.
BUT THERE IS AN UNEVEN FLOW OF
FUNDS AND MANY TIMES IT IS
HIGHER THAN THE $200 MILLION
BEING TALKED ABOUT ON PAR WITH
THE $500 MILLION THAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING
SPENDING IN 2021.
SO I CANNOT SPEAK WITH
AUTHORITY BECAUSE I DON'T
PERSONALLY DO THE BALANCING OF
THE BOOKS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL KIND
OF BALANCING ACT AND, THE
CONSOLIDATED CASH POOL EVEN IN
THE POST-COVERT ECONOMIC
CLIMATE, EXPECTED TO BE
SUFFICIENTLY HEALTHY TO ALLOW
FOR THIS KIND OF QUOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT A LARGE
PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING AND
SPENDING IN 2021 IS FOR
INVESTMENTS IN SOCIAL HOUSING
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THOSE
FINANCING COMMITMENTS WOULD BE
MADE, LIKELY TOWARD THE END OF
THE YEAR AND TYPICALLY DO NOT
GO OUT THE DOOR IMMEDIATELY SO
IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A
LOT OF WRITING CHECKS IN 2021
WITH 75% OF THE FUNDING GOING
TO INVESTMENTS IN NEW HOUSING.
>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS A
GREAT SEGUE TO LOOK AT THE
SPEND PLAN IF WE COULD GET
THROUGH THOSE, AND SEE IF THERE
ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
>> ALY PENNUCCI, COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON,
COUNCILMEMBERS.
TODAY I WILL WALK THROUGH A
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED
SPENDING PLAN AND WALK-THROUGH 5
ISSUE AREAS AND ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
AND THEN, TRACY WILL PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
PARTICULARLY IN RESPONSE TO ANY
DETAILED QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
HAVE.
GENERALLY SPEAKING AS PROPOSED,
119774 WOULD ESTABLISH A
SPENDING PLAN FROM REVENUE
GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED
PAYROLL TAX.
WERE SPECIFICALLY THE BILL
WOULD AUTHORIZE $200 MILLION OF
SPENDING IN 2020 MADE AVAILABLE
THROUGH THE INTERFUND LOAN JUST
DESCRIBED TO BE USED FOR
EMERGENCY CASH ASSISTANCE FOR
UP TO 100,000 LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS AFFECTED BY THE COVID
EMERGENCY.
IT ALSO OUTLINES THE INTENDED
TAXIS OF 2020 AND BEYOND.
$205 MILLION IN 2021 WOULD BE
USED TO REPLAY THE PRINCIPAL
AND INTEREST ON THE INTERFUND
LOAN.
AND THEN ALL REMAINING FUNDS IN
FUTURE YEARS WOULD BE ALLOCATED
AS FOLLOWS.
75% OF REMAINING REVENUE WOULD
BE USED FOR INVESTMENTS TO
BUILD OR REQUIRE SOCIAL HOUSING
AND TO SUPPORT THE ONGOING
OPERATION AND SERVICES NEEDED
FOR PERMANENT SUPPORT OF
HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
25% OF REMAINING REVENUE WOULD
BE INVESTED IN HOUSING -RELATED
STRATEGIES CALLED FOR IN THE
GREEN NEW DEAL RESOLUTION.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL
DIRECTS THE EXECUTIVE TO SUBMIT
IMPLEMENTATION PLANS TO THE
COUNCIL FOR THE NEW TAX.
IT ALSO ESTABLISHES A NEW
SOCIAL HOUSING BOARD THAT WOULD
PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
AYOR AND THE COUNCIL ON
INVITATION IN THE MENTATION OF
SOCIAL HOUSING INVESTMENTS AND
IT INCLUDES ADDING A
RESPONSIBILITY TO COORDINATE
WITH THE SOCIAL HOUSING BOARD
AND SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT
OVERSIGHT OF THE PROPOSED DEAL
INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD FLOW
FROM THIS. BECAUSE SPENDING IS
PROPOSED TO RESPOND FROM PUBLIC
NEEDS RESULTING FROM THE
HOMELESSNESS EMERGENCIES AND TO
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE INCLUDES
AN EMERGENCY PROVISION AND
WOULD HAVE AN IMMEDIATE EFFECT
IF PASSED AND SIGNED BY THE
MAYOR.
WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ON TO
THE DISCUSSION OF ISSUES AND
BEAR WITH ME WHEN I LEARN HOW
TO FLIP BETWEEN SCREENS.
SO.
THE ISSUES AND OPTIONS THAT I'M
GOING TO WALK THROUGH ARE NOT
NECESSARILY EXHAUSTIVE AND
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS MAY BE
IDENTIFIED OVER THE COURSE OF
THE REVIEWED DISCUSSION OF
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I WILL ALSO NOTE SPECIFIC
AMENDMENTS ATTACHED TO THE MEMO
ARE STILL DRAFTS AND MAY BE
MODIFIED PRIOR TO FINAL COUNCIL
ACTION.
AMENDMENT ONE WILL BE REVISED
TO A DATE ATTACHMENT ONE
ATTACHMENT 1 TO REFLECT A LATER
EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE TAX WHICH
WOULD RESULT IN SLIGHTLY LOWER
TAX REVENUE ESTIMATES WHICH
WILL IMPACT THE PROPOSED NUMBER
OF HOUSING UNITS. THOSE CHANGES
WILL BE DESCRIBED IN FUTURE
DISCUSSIONS.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN TO THE
FIRST ISSUE IDENTIFIED BY STAFF
THAT IS REALLY JUST DESCRIBING
SOME CLARIFYING CORRECTIONS
THAT ARE NEEDED.
THE BILL INCLUDES REFERENCES TO
CERTAIN FIGURES THAT ARE NOW
OUTDATED AND IN ADDITION WE'VE
IDENTIFIED TECHNICAL ERRORS
THAT SHOULD BE CORRECTED AND IF
YOU PLACES WHERE THE SPONSORS
NEEDED CLARIFICATION.
NUMBER ONE IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND WOULD
ADDRESS TECHNICAL ERRORS AND
MAKE A FEW ADDITIONAL CHANGES
TO BETTER ALIGN DRAFT
LEGISLATION WITH HER INTENT
INCLUDING REORGANIZING AND
ADDING TO PROPOSED FINDINGS IN
SECTION 1 AND UPDATING THE CPI
INDEX THAT WOULD BE USED TO
REGULATE THE MAXIMUM ANNUAL
RENT INCREASES THAT COULD BE
IMPOSED AMONG HOUSING UNITS
SUPPORTING BY THE INVESTMENTS,
AND SETS AN ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM
FOR ANNUAL RENT INCREASES TO
NOT MORE THAN 3%.
AND THEN THERE IS A SERIES,
LIKE I SAID, OF TECHNICAL
CORRECTIONS.
THE 2nd ISSUE IS PROPOSED
ASSISTANCE IN 2020.
THE BILL AUTHORIZED SPENDING
EMERGENCY CASH ASSISTANCE TO
LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AFFECTED
BY THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY.
AS PROPOSED, 50% OR $100
MILLION OF THE FUNDS WOULD BE
DISTRIBUTED TO LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS OR STATE PROGRAMS
ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY.
THE 2nd HALF, ABOUT $100
MILLION WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO
THOSE IMPACTED BY COVID WHEN
NOT ALREADY ENROLLED IN
EXISTING CITY PROGRAMS.
THE PROCESS WOULD BE DEVELOPED
BY THE EXECUTIVE'S.
IT PRIORITIZES PROVIDING
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE.
THE TRADE-OFF IS DESIGNED TO
MOVE QUICKLY AND COULD REACH
SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS IN NEED
AND NOT REACH THE PRIORITY
POPULATIONS OR HOUSEHOLDS MOST
IN NEED. PAGE 5 POSTED TO THE
APRIL 29 COMMITTEE AGENDA
OUTLINES OTHER MODELS THAT
COULD BE USED TO DISTRIBUTE THE
EMERGENCY CASH ASSISTANCE.
THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE THAT WE
FOUND IS THAT THOSE PROGRAMS
RELIED MORE ON PARTNERSHIPS
WITH COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS TO IDENTIFY
RECIPIENTS AND IN SOME CASES TO
DETERMINE THE MIX OF SERVICES
THAT WOULD BEST SERVE THE
COMMUNITY.
WHILE THE BILL IS INTRODUCED IT
WOULD NOT PROHIBIT PARTNERING
FROM COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS TO DISTRIBUTE,
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT HAS
PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE
IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS AN
OPTION AND REFLECTED IN AN
AMENDMENT INCLUDING AN
ATTACHMENT TO THE MEMO.
THAT CLARIFIES THAT THE 2nd
HALF OF THE EMERGENCY CASH
ASSISTANCE COULD BE DISTRIBUTED
THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, WHILE PARTNERING WITH
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS
MAY TAKE MORE TIME TO GET
ASSISTANCE OUT THE DOOR AND
SENDING CHECKS TO HOUSEHOLDS
WHO WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED,
THEY ARE LIKELY BETTER
POSITIONED TO ENSURE
ASSISTANCES REACHING PRIORITY
POPULATIONS AND MAY BETTER BE
CONNECTED WITH THE TYPES OF
ASSISTANCE THAT THOSE
COMMUNITIES NEED.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS
PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO THE
CENTRAL STAFF MEMO THAT WOULD
REQUIRE THAT ASSISTANCE IS
DISTRIBUTED THROUGH
PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY-
BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT IT
COULD BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF
RELIEF SERVICES SUCH AS RENTAL
ASSISTANCE, HELP WITH MEDICAL
CARE OR DIRECT FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE.
NO ACTION, ADOPTING AMENDMENT 2
AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT, OR ADOPTING AMENDMENT 3
AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
THE 3rd ISSUE AREA IS RELATED
TO THE PROPOSED SPENDING
CATEGORIES.
AS NOTED, AFTER REPAYMENT OF
THE INTERFUND LOAN 75% WOULD BE
ALLOCATED TO ACQUIRE AFFORDABLE
SOCIAL HOUSING AND PROVIDE
SERVICES FOR PERMANENT SUPPORT
OF HOUSING UNITS.
AND, 25% TO SUPPORT GREEN NEW
DEAL STRATEGIES.
THERE ARE WAYS THIS NEW REVENUE
COULD BE ALLOCATED AND
COUNCILMEMBERS MAY WANT TO
CONSIDER OTHER SPENDING
PRIORITIES.
AMENDMENT 4 INCLUDED IN
ATTACHMENT D SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES WOULD
MODIFY CATEGORIES TO INCLUDE
SUPPORT FOR THE EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE BY
ALLOCATING 10% TO EDI PROJECTS
AND REDUCING ALLOCATION TO
GREEN NEW DEAL INVESTMENTS BY
5%.
70% WOULD BE INFESTED IN--
INVESTED IN SOCIAL HOUSING AND
10% TO SUPPORT PROJECTS FUNDED
THROUGH THE EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE.
I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT
THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT
INITIATIVE PROJECTS OFTEN
INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT
THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT YET
IDENTIFIED TODAY.
THE OPTIONS PROVIDED FOR THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMITTEE
ARE TAKING NO ACTION, ADOPTING
THE AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED, OR
TO PROPOSE OTHER SPENDING
CATEGORIES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH TRACI AND
ALY.
I'M SORRY, PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> THERE ARE 2 MORE.
THE 4th ISSUE IS RELATED TO
INCOME LEVELS SERVED BY THE
PROPOSED INVESTMENTS. THE
PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO PROVIDE
HOUSINGS UP TO 100% OF AREA-
MEDIAN INCOME.
FUNDING POLICIES HAVE
HISTORICALLY PRIORITIZED
INVESTMENTS IN RENTAL HOUSING
THAT ASSIST HOUSEHOLDS AT OR
BELOW 80% OF THE MEDIAN AREA
INCOME WITH THE MAJORITY'S
ASSISTING BELOW.
COUNCILMEMBERS COULD CONSIDER
PRIORITIZING INVESTMENTS TO
SUPPORT HOUSEHOLDS WITH LOWER
INCOMES.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALE US HAS
PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT
WOULD MODIFY THE PROPOSED
INCOME LEVELS SERVED BY THE NEW
HOUSING INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD
REDUCE THE MAXIMUM INCOME FROM
100% OF MEDIAN INCOME TO 80%.
IT WOULD PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR
HOUSING FOR HOUSEHOLDS BELOW
THAT.
SO OPTIONS PROVIDED FOR THE
CONSIDERATION IS TAKING NO
ACTION OR ADOPTING AMENDMENT 5
AS SHOWN IN ATTACHMENT IT.
AND NOT LISTED HERE, ANYTHING I
WOULD SAY 80% OR BELOW IS AN
OPTION AVAILABLE TO THE
COMMITTEE.
FINALLY THE FIFTH AMENDMENT,
THE 5th ISSUE IDENTIFIED FOR
DISCUSSION IS RELATED TO THE
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN SUBMITTAL
DATE AND THE PROCESS THAT WOULD
INFORM DEVELOPMENT OF THAT
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AS INTRODUCED, THE BILL WOULD
REQUIRE THE PLAN CONSISTENT
WITH THE LEGISLATION
AUTHORIZING SPENDING DOES NOT
ESTABLISH A FIRM TIMELINE. BOTH
IN THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENT
DESCRIBED AS AMENDMENT 1, AND
THIS AMENDMENT POSED BY
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, THE
SUBMITTAL DATE WOULD BE
FEBRUARY 1 OF 2021.
IN THIS AMENDMENT, THE
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WOULD
INFORM INVESTMENTS FOR 2022
THROUGH 2025.
BECAUSETHE COUNCIL WILL HAVE
TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT 2021 IN
JUST A FEW MONTHS, IT WOULD
REQUEST THE EXECUTIVE SEEKS
INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS
DEVELOPING THAT PROPOSAL.
SO THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE
COUNCIL LAID OUT IN THE MEMO IS
NO OPTION, ADOPTING AMENDMENT 6
AND INCLUDED IN ATTACHMENT F OR
PROPOSING AN ALTERNATE SCHEDULE
OR PLAN FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH DEVELOPING AND
IMPLEMENTATION AND PROPOSING
INVESTMENTS IN 2021.
>> JUST NOTING FOR THE SLIDES I
THINK IT SAYS AMENDMENT 5 BUT
WE WANT TO KNOW THAT AS
AMENDMENT 6. CORRECT?
>> IT IS, YES.
>> WE BEEN WORKING NIGHT AND
DAY SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY
IN CASE THERE WAS A QUESTION
WHEN WE GO BACK TO THAT FOR ANY
REASON.
>> THAT CONCLUDES MY STATEMENTS.
HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU
GUYS OFF.
ANY OTHER STATEMENTS ON THIS?
>> NO, HERE TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS.
>> WILL BE LOOKING TO
COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE THEIR HANDS
RAISED.
JUST GO AHEAD AND LET ME KNOW.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> SO SORRY, YOU ARE ON MUTE.
>> YOU'D THINK I HAVE THIS DOWN
BY NOW.
SO AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY
TO THE DIRECT PAYMENTS TO
HOUSEHOLDS IN THE FIRST YEAR,
JUST A CONCERN ABOUT HOW THE
INTERPLAY IS ANTICIPATED WITH
OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS
THAT HAVE INCOME ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THESE DIRECT
PAYMENTS HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF
MAKING HOUSEHOLDS INELIGIBLE
FOR OTHER SERVICES OR PROGRAMS
THEY DEPEND ON. THAT IS A
QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP THAT
WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM ANSWER FOR
YET.
IT IS JUDGED BY PROGRAMS AND WE
ARE TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT IN
REAL TIME WITH SOME OF THE
OTHER ASSISTANCE GOING OUT THE
DOOR FOR RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE
CITY.
WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH MORE
INFORMATION WHEN WE CAN.
I WILL SAY IN SOME CASES,
PROVIDING NOT DIRECT CASH
ASSISTANCE MAY MITIGATE SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS SO THE PROPOSAL
INCLUDED IN THIS AMENDMENT MAY
ADDRESS SOME OF THAT WHICH IS
MODELED, I SHOULD SAY, OFF OF
THE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY OF
AUSTIN SET UP EARLY ON IN THE
CRISIS WHICH I THINK WAS MAYBE
JUST 2 MONTHS AGO BUT FEELS
MUCH LONGER.
SO WE WILL FOLLOW UP.
>> THANK YOU.
AS IT RELATES TO THE IMMEDIATE
DIRECT PAYMENTS, DOES THE
SPENDING PLAN PROVIDE HELP TO
FOLKS EXPERIENCING FINDING
HOMES OR SHELTER DURING THE
PANDEMIC?
IS THAT CONTEMPLATED IN THE
DIRECT PAYMENTS OR ANOTHER PART
OF THE SPENDING PLAN?
>> IS NOT CONTEMPLATED DIRECTLY.
SO, IF THE LEGISLATION MOVED
FORWARD AS PROPOSED, I BELIEVE
IT WAS THE INTENT TO BE ABLE TO
ALLOW PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS TO RECEIVE THOSE
PAYMENTS AND THEN THEY COULD
USE THE MONEY FOR WHATEVER THEY
NEED INCLUDING HOTEL ROOMS OR
OTHER HOUSING OPTIONS IF THEY
COULD FIND ANY FOR $500.
THAT WOULD BE ONE STRATEGY.
IF THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED,
CERTAINLY SERVICE PROVIDERS,
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS
THAT PROVIDE AND WORK WITH
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS COULD PROVIDE
ASSISTANCE FOR A VARIETY OF
ASSISTANCE BUT WOULD NOT BE
PROHIBITED BASED ON THE PLAY.
FUTURE SPENDING IS REALLY
FOCUSED ON LONG-TERM HOUSING.
AND WITH PRIORITIZING
INVESTMENTS OR INVESTING A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DESIGNED TO
SERVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF
HOMELESSNESS.
THERE IS NOT DIRECT SPENDING ON
HOMELESS, SORT OF THE
INTERMEDIATE STEPS IT IS
FOCUSED ON THE LONGER-TERM.
>> THAT SEGUES INTO MY LAST
QUESTION AS IT RELATES
SPECIFICALLY TO PERMANENT
SUPPORT OF HOUSING. THEY HAVE
SIGNED ON TO THE PROPOSAL TO
SCALE HOUSING OVER THE NEXT 5
YEARS.
JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THIS
PLAN NOT ONLY INCLUDES
ALLOCATION FOR CAPITAL COSTS
BUT TO SUPPORT THE OPERATING
COSTS AS WELL.
>> THE PLAN ASSUMES THAT THE
CITY IS PAYING THE FULL COST OF
ALL NEW PERMANENT SUPPORT OF
HOUSING UNITS.
INSTEAD, THAT MONEY WAS
INVESTED IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH
OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS AND
THOSE DOLLARS WERE LEVERAGED.
IT WOULD LIKELY PRODUCE
ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND SOME OF
THAT MAY BE DIRECTED TOWARD
HOUSING AS WELL AS OTHER INCOME
BRACKETS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALE US HAS A
COMMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
I DO WANT TO COME BACK TO THE
QUESTION ABOUT EMERGENCY
ASSISTANCE THAT WE INTENDED.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE
CRISIS, FIRST OF ALL, IS FAR
FROM OVER.
FOR MANY PEOPLE THE FINANCIAL
BURDEN THAT COVID HAS PLACED
THEM IN STILL EXIST.
SAVINGS ARE RUNNING OUT, STATE
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IS NOT
WORKING FOR PEOPLE AND IT'S
JUST AS IMPORTANT NOW AS IT WAS
WHEN THE CRISIS FIRST HIT.
THAT SAID, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY
CONTEMPLATED INCLUDING THE
PROVISION IN THIS BILL, THE
CIRCUMSTANCES WERE FELT MORE
URGENTLY IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
GET CASH ASSISTANCE OUT.
SINCE THAT TIME, AS ALY
MENTIONED, I KNOW BEFORE WE
HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME CITIES
HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH TRYING
TO GET EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE OUT
QUICKLY. I WILL SAY IF THERE IS
A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT IF
THERE IS FEDERAL ASSISTANCE
COMING THROUGH THAT WE COULD USE
THROUGH COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS AND I THINK THAT
IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE
SHOULD TALK ABOUT AND CONSIDER.
THE REASON THAT WE, MY
AMENDMENT IS SAYING WE FOCUS ON
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION.
THE REASON IS, THEY HAVE THAT
KIND OF TRUST IN DEEP
RELATIONSHIP WITH FOLKS WHO ARE
IN COMMUNITIES WHO ARE CLIENTS
AND PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE.
TEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF
ASSISTANCE IS NEEDED.
AND PARTICULARLY AS WE TALK
ABOUT THE NEED TO INCLUDE FOLKS
WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED OR PERHAPS
ON BANKED, THE IDEA OF JUST
SENDING A CHECK IS NOT
NECESSARILY GOING TO ACHIEVE
THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE.
SO, WHAT MY AMENDMENT IS TRYING
TO ADDRESSES THIS QUESTION OF
HOW WE PROVIDE FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE THAT ISN'T
NECESSARILY CASH.
MAYBE IT'S A PREPAID DEBIT CARD
, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, RENTAL
ASSISTANCE, FOOD SECURITY
ASSISTANCE.
SOME PEOPLE MAY NEED LESS THAN
$500.
THAT SEEMS UNLIKELY, BUT I
THINK THE POINT IS IF WE GIVE
THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY
HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND KNOW HOW
TO REACH PEOPLE THE FLEXIBILITY
TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED, IT MAY
TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO SET UP
BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN IT
WOULD SERVE PEOPLE BETTER.
THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO
SAY IS WHEN I DID HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH AN AUSTIN
CITY COUNCILMEMBER ABOUT HOW
THEY SET UP THEIR PROGRAM, ONE
OF THE REASONS THAT HE GAVE FOR
WORKING DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY-
BASED ORGANIZATIONS INSTEAD OF,
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH THE
UTILITY DISCOUNT GRAHAM, IS
THAT IN SOME PLACES IF A
RESIDENT IS IN-- WITH A CITY
DEPARTMENT IN THIS KIND OF
EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE COMES
THROUGH, SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE
KEEPING THE ASSISTANCE FROM
CLIENTS WHO ARE-- RATHER THAN
JUST BEING A PASS-THROUGH FOR
SUPPORT.
WE REALLY DO NOT WANT THAT TO
BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
I WILL STOP THERE BUT I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE THOSE FEW POINTS
ABOUT THE RATIONALE FOR THE
AMENDMENT THAT I'M OFFERING.
>> VERY HELPFUL, THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER RIGHT
NOW BUT I ALSO WANTED TO DOUBLE
CHECK THAT GIVEN THE CASH
ASSISTANCE THAT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL HAS-- I'M SORRY, GIVEN
THE CASH ASSISTANCE AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL, PERHAPS THERE IS
SOME WAY WE CAN REPLICATE
LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THOSE
DOLLARS DIDN'T KICK PEOPLE OFF
OF OTHER PROGRAMS.
I SEE ALY NODDING HER HEAD SO I
ASSUME YOU ARE ALREADY ON THAT .
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBERS WITH THEIR HANDS UP.
COLLEAGUES, THIS HAS BEEN A
CONVERSATION WE HAVE ALL BEEN
ANTICIPATING AND REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK FOR
CENTRAL STAFF.
THERE IS A FEW IDEAS THAT
PEOPLE MAY STILL BE PERCOLATING
ON.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE A STRONG
INTEREST IN WORKING WITH EVERY
ONE OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE PASSED PROGRESSIVE,
COMPREHENSIVE REVENUE AS THE
SPONSORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
REALLY ASSESS THOSE WHO ARE
CONTINUING TO ESSENTIALLY DO
WELL IN A POST-COVID WORLD, AND
RECOGNIZE THE NEED IS URGENT
AND WAS URGENT WHEN THE BILL
WAS INTRODUCED.
WE HAVE A REAL CALL TO ACTION
HERE.
THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE
AS YOU SEE, WE ARE GOING TO
DEVOTE THE FULL FIRST PART OF
THE DAY NEXT WEDNESDAY TO
TALKING ABOUT REVENUE PROPOSALS.
REALLY URGE YOU TO SEND ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO
CENTRAL STAFF AND FOR
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE THE
SPONSORS I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE
FOLKS TO SEND QUESTIONS, IDEAS,
AMENDMENTS, BY NOON ON FRIDAY.
SEEING A NOD THAT WOULD BE
IDEAL.
IS GO AHEAD.
>> JUST WANTED TO 2nd YOUR
COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE A SHARED
INTEREST IN RECOGNIZING THE
URGENCY.
IT WAS URGENT AND CONTINUES TO
BE URGENT.
IF ANYTHING, IT'S MORE URGENT.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO USE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO SAY I
WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS OR
AMENDMENTS FOR US TO LOOK AT.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALSO
UNDERLINING THE NEED FOR THAT
TO BE DONE SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER.
AND, JUST TO THINK CENTRAL STAFF
FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK.
THEY HAVE BASICALLY GIVEN UP
EVERY WEEKEND, AS FAR AS I
KNOW, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALE IS?
-- MORALES?
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIR FOR REBOOTING THIS
CONVERSATION.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THIS IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND IS A
MOMENT IN TIME WHERE I DO THINK
OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CONSTITUENTS
ARE CALLING ON US TO FIND SOME
ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS TO THESE
LONG-STANDING PROBLEMS.
SO, I AM HOPEFUL WE CAN MOVE
THROUGH THIS AND AM HAPPY TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS OR FIELD
QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS.
I ALSO WANT TO ECHO COUNSEL
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND STAFF
WHO HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY
HELPFUL AND DILIGENT HELPING US
THINK THROUGH ALTERNATIVES AND
REALLY PRIORITIZE OUR GOAL
AROUND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY
AND MAKING SURE WE ARE
ADDRESSING THE MANY CRISES THAT
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AS BEST WE
CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> WE APPRECIATE THE JOINT
PRESENTATION ON THESE FIRST 3
ITEMS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION,
ITEM NUMBER 4 CODE.
I WILL ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO
READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND
HAVE SOME COMMENTS AS WELL AND
WE WILL INTRODUCE CENTRAL STAFF
FOLKS.
COULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM
NUMBER 4 INTO THE RECORD?
MDM.
CLERK, WE DO NOT HEAR YOU.
>> EXCUSE ME.
AGENDA ITEM 4. FOR BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION ONLY.
>> COLLEAGUES, TO FRAME THIS
CONVERSATION, AS YOU HEARD ON
MONDAY WE ARE USING TODAY IS
OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO
INITIATE AN INQUEST INTO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET.
WE STATED ON MONDAY THAT OUR
INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A FULL,
THOROUGH, TRANSPARENT DEEP DIVE
INTO THE BUDGET SIMULTANEOUS TO
ONGOING REVISION AND REVIEW AND
AMENDMENTS TO THE 2020 REVISED
úBUDGET OF THE MAYOR.
WE WERE TOLD THE BUDGET IS
STILL BEING WORKED ON.
THEY HAVE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL
TIME, AT LEAST A WEEK BUT
POTENTIALLY MORE, FOR THEM TO
RESPOND TO THE CRISIS THAT I
THINK EVERYONE IS SEEING IN THE
STREET.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
RECEIVING THAT BUDGET AND I
THINK THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOOD
NEWS THAT THE WORDS AND CALL
FOR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN HEARD
AND THEY HAVE HELD ONTO THAT
BUDGET TO DO ADDITIONAL
AMENDMENTS BEFORE SETTING IT
DOWN.
THAT DOES NOT RELIEVE US OF OUR
RESPONSIBILITY AND OUR DUTY TO
PROVIDE NOT JUST AMENDMENTS
AROUND THE EDGES BUT TO REALLY
ASSESS WHETHER THEY ARE MEETING
VALUES AS A WHOLE AND
SPECIFICALLY TO THE ALLOCATION
OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
DEMANDING OF OFFICIALS THAT WE
LOOK AT HOW WE SPEND INTO THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. THE
PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM WE ARE
TRYING TO CREATE IS NEW SO I
WANT TO LIFT UP THE WORDS FROM
COUNCILMEMBER WAREZ AND OTHERS
ON MONDAY WHO SAID WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THIS IS A THOROUGH
PROCESS AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT WE ALSO LIFT UP THE
WORDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
SAYS AS WE TRIED TO CREATE A
NEW SYSTEM WE ALSO NEED TO BE
GRACIOUS WITH EACH OTHER TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT
CHAPTER LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IF
WE DO NOT DO THIS IN A
THOUGHTFUL WAY AND END UP RE-
CREATING THE SYSTEMS WE ARE
TRYING TO DISMANTLE, WE HAVE
NOT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED
CHANGE.
OUR INTENT IS TO ACCOMPLISH
CHANGE AND USE THIS TOOL THAT
IS THE BUDGET PROCESS TO
INITIATE THAT CHANGE, AND WE
ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT
WITH URGENCY.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DRAG OUR
FEET NEED TO BE INTENTIONAL TO
ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY AND WILL DO THIS
TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY BLACK-
LINE.
THIS CHAPTER INCLUDES A CITY
WHERE WE CAN IMAGINE COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND STRENGTH THAT COMES
FROM THESE RELATIONSHIPS.
FIRE ANT NEIGHBORHOODS, HEALTHY
AND EQUITABLE ECONOMIES, AND
HOUSING AS A HUMAN RIGHT, AND
INVESTING IN OUR ENVIRONMENT SO
WE ARE NOT CREATING TOXIC
COMMUNITIES WHERE DEPENDING ON
YOUR ZIP CODE, YOUR LIFE
EXPECTANCY OR HEALTH OUTCOMES
ARE DETERMINED.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE HAVE
HEARD COMING FROM COMMUNITY AS
WE THINK ABOUT DEFUNDING AND
REALLOCATING IT.
WE NEED TO ASSESS WHERE DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO GO IN THE MESSAGE
TRULY WILL COME FROM COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE SEEN OTHER EXAMPLES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY
HAVE DONE SIMILAR EFFORTS.
IN CAMDEN, NEW JERSEY IS OFTEN
LIFTED UP.
AS WE LOOK AT OTHER MODELS IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
SINCE 2010 THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAS SEEN A 43%
INCREASE IN FUNDING WHILE WE
HAVE SEEN OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES
DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
MEET.
WE ARE NOT ISOLATED IN THIS
PROBLEM.
THE CENTER FOR POPULAR
DEMOCRACY BLACK YOUTH PROJECT
100 AND LAUFER BLACK LIVES
RELEASED A GROUNDBREAKING
REPORT IN 2017 ENTITLED FREEDOM
TO THRIVE, REMAINING SAFE AND
SECURE IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHICH
REVEALS HOW CITIES AND COUNTIES
CONTINUE TO SPEND OVERWHELMINGLY
ON PUNITIVE POLICING AND
INCARCERATION WHILE NEGLECTING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOCIAL
PROGRAMS.
THEY PROVIDE EXAMPLES IN
MINNEAPOLIS FOR EACH DOLLAR
SPENT ON POLICE LESS THAN ONE
CENT GOES TO TRANSPORTATION AND
YOUTH VIOLENCE IN NEW YORK
WHICH SPENDS $5 MILLION ON ITS
POLICE FORCE EVEN AS
HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING CRISES CONTINUE TO
INCREASE.
IN BALTIMORE 28% OF THE
POPULATION LIVES BELOW THE
POVERTY LINE.
BALTIMORE SPENDS $772 PER
PERSON ON POLICING AND FOR
EVERY DOLLAR THE CITY SPENDS ON
THE POLICE IT CONTRIBUTES JUST
$.55 TO BALTIMORE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
IN OAKLAND WHICH SPENDS THE
ENTIRE PERCENTAGE OF GENERAL
FUND EXPENDITURES ON POLICING
OF JURISDICTIONS, 41% OVERALL
FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENDING ON
POLICING FROM TOTAL BUDGET, THE
CITY SPENDS $.08 ON HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES TO SAY
THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE IN OVER
INVESTMENTS IN POLICING AS WE
KNOW IT, CURRENTLY, AND ARE
ALSO NOT ALONE ASKING FOR A
REAL, FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN HOW
WE DO POLICING.
MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL
JOINTLY ANNOUNCED THEY ARE
DISMANTLING AND REINVESTING
DOLLARS AND DOING IT THROUGH A
COMMUNITY PROCESS THAT WILL
TAKE A YEAR, THEY ANNOUNCED.
WE ALSO KNOW FROM THE NEW YORK
AND LOS ANGELES MAYOR THAT THEY
ARE DECREASING FUNDING, AS
WELL.
SO WE ARE NOT ALONE IN THE NEED
TO DO THIS.
THIS IS AN INSTITUTIONAL ISSUE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SOMEONE ASKED ME IN AN INTERVIEW
WHAT ARE THEY DOING WRONG
SPECIFICALLY?
I THINK AS WE SAW THE RESPONSE
IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS, IT IS NOT
JUST OUR DEPARTMENT.
IT IS THE INSTITUTION POLICING
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I WANTED TO LIFT UP THOSE OTHER
CITIES AS EXAMPLES THAT WE WILL
CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM AS WE
ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS, AND
REALLY TAKE DIRECTION FROM
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
ARE BLACK-LED AND COMMUNITIES
WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THIS
FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAD SOME
COMMENTS AS WELL AS SHE HAS
BEEN COLLECTING FEEDBACK AND
QUESTIONS FOR A LONG TIME BUT
ESPECIALLY AFTER LAST
WEDNESDAY'S MEETING THAT SHE
LEAD.
WHILE COUNCILMEMBER PRES.
GONZALEZ COULD NOT BE HERE SHE
ALSO SENT POWERFUL REMARKS IN
SUPPORT OF THIS EFFORT AND WE
APPRECIATE HER COMMENTS AND
ONGOING PAST EFFORTS TO REALLY
CALL OUT POLICE VIOLENCE AND
THE NEED FOR CHANGE.
WE KNOW WE ARE HERE TO DO MUCH,
MUCH MORE THAN WE HAVE DONE IN
THE PAST AND WE THINK
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR
CHIMING IN AT THIS MOMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST WANT TO REALLY SHOW MY
APPRECIATION TO YOU FOR YOUR
FRAMEWORK FOR THIS DISCUSSION
CALLING IT AN INQUEST FOR THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND A
FORENSIC LOOK AT THE BLACK BOX
THAT IS THE $409 MILLION BUDGET
OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THAT REALLY SHOWS THE
APPROACH THAT WE INTEND TO TAKE
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
RECOGNITION THAT WHAT WE ARE
DOING HERE IN SEATTLE IS
HAPPENING ALSO WITHIN THE
CONTEXT OF CITIES ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY.
ACCORDING TO OUR RECENT
ANALYSIS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THE UNITED STATES SPENDS ON
POLICING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS
$115 BILLION WHICH IS THE
NEARLY EVERY OTHER COUNTRY'S
MILITARY BUDGET.
POLICE DEPARTMENTS CONSISTENTLY
HAVE LOWER RATES OF SOLVING
CRIMES EVEN AS BUDGETS ARE
INCREASING THREEFOLD OVER THE
LAST 40 YEARS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN POLICE
INVESTIGATE A CRIME INVOLVING A
BLACK VICTIM EVIDENCE SHOWS THE
RATE IS STILL LOWER.
WE'VE HEARD SOME FOLKS ARE
DEMANDING THE COUNCIL DEFUND
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH
COULD MEAN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS, ONE SPECIFIC TARGET
WE'VE HEARD IS 50% AND OTHERS
ARE DEMANDING WE DISMANTLE THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT ALTOGETHER.
THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD HAS
SPURRED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT
THE HISTORY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
AS A SLAVE-CATCHING INSTITUTION
AND WHAT THE HISTORY OF THE
INSTITUTION SHOULD BE TODAY.
IN LIGHT OF THESE NATIONAL
CONVERSATIONS THE POLICE
RESPONSE TO DEMONSTRATIONS OF
THE LAST NEARLY 2 WEEKS AND THE
DISPARITY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
THAT WE SEE HERE IN SEATTLE AS
WELL BRINGS US TO THE TABLE
THAT CHAIR MOSQUEDA IS SETTING
FOR THESE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE
DISPARITY THAT WE SEE HERE,
2019 STUDIES FOUND BLACK
SUSPECTS WERE SEARCHED MOST,
26% OF THE TIME, AND ONLY 16%
OF THE TIME WERE THEY FOUND
WITH WEAPONS.
WHITES WERE SEARCHED THE LEAST,
18% OF THE TIME AND WERE FOUND
WITH WEAPONS 25% OF THE TIME SO
BLACKS WERE SEARCHED THE MOST,
WERE NOT FOUND WITH WEAPONS AT
THE RATE AT WHICH THEY WERE
SEARCHED, AND WHITES WERE
SEARCHED THE LEAST AND WERE
MORE OFTEN FOUND WITH WEAPONS.
A 2019 STUDY FOUND THAT BLACK
PEOPLE ACCOUNT FOR 32% OF ALL
USES OF FORCE WITH FIREARM
POINTING RATE OF 26.6%.
WHITE SUBJECTS HAD A FIREARM
POINTING RATE OF 16.6%.
THE 4th REPORT ISSUED IN JANUARY
FINDS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE
NUMBER OF FORCE INCIDENTS HAS
DECREASED, THE USE OF FORCE IS
STILL 28%, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER
THAN SEATTLE'S BLACK POPULATION.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL GO
INTO GREATER DETAIL THAN WE
HAVE EVER SEEN BEFORE AND IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE APART THE
BUDGET AND REIMAGINE WHAT A
PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT MAY
LOOK LIKE.
AS COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA
MENTIONED IN CAMDEN NEW
JERSEY, THEY LET GO OF ALL OF
THEIR OFFICERS INCLUDING THE
POLICE CHIEF AND MADE THEM
REAPPLY WITH A NEW REIMAGINED
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE COUNCIL WILL BE LOOKING FOR
CUTS TO MAKE IN THE BUDGET TO
REALLOCATE TO COMMUNITY-BASED
ALTERNATIVES, I THINK WE HAVE
TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
2 DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
NOW ABOUT REDUCTIONS IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND
INVESTMNT IN COMMUNITY-BASED
ALTERNATIVES AND HAVE TO CREATE
A ROADMAP FOR HOW TO REIMAGINE
AND TAKE WHAT IS NOW THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AND REIMAGINE IT TO
BE A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY
APPARATUS FOR THE CITY.
IN MINNEAPOLIS THEY HAVE
COMMITTED TO A ONE-YOUR
PROCESS.
THEY ARE NOT ABOLISHING THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY.
CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE SAYING
THEY WILL GRADUALLY DISMANTLE IT
AND REPLACE IT WITH ONE THAT
USES HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND
SOCIAL WORKERS INSTEAD OF
POLICE OFFICERS TO RESPOND TO
SUBSTANCE ABUSE, HOMELESSNESS,
OR MENTAL HEALTH CALLS.
VIOLENCE PREVENTION WOULD BE
THE WORK OF COMMUNITY-BASED
COUNSELORS.
WHAT I HOPE WE CAN HAVE IS A
SYSTEMATIC QUESTIONING OF THE
ROLES THAT POLICE UNDERTAKE AND
DEVELOP EVIDENCE-BASED
ALTERNATIVES SO THAT WE CAN
DIALBACK RELIANCE ON POLICE
OFFICERS AND IDENTIFY THE MOST
EFFECTIVE APPROACHES.
FOR INSTANCE, WE SHOULD DO AN
ANALYSIS OF 911 CALLS TO SEE
HOW MANY ARE FOR MENTAL HEALTH
DISTRESS OR OVERDOSE OR
DISORDER SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN
TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE
NEED SPD RESPONSE IN ALL CASES,
OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER
PROFESSIONALS, CONFLICT DISPUTE
RESOLUTION.
ONE EXAMPLE THAT HAS ALREADY
TAKEN PLACE IN RESPONSE TO
YOUTH PROTEST AND THE POSITION
OF THE SEATTLE TEACHERS UNION,
THE SEATTLE EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION AND SCHOOL BOARD
HAVE EXPRESSED THE INTENTION OF
ENDING THE PRACTICE OF HAVING
ARMED SCHOOL OFFICERS STATIONED
ACROSS SEATTLE SCHOOLS.
SOUTH SHORE, DENNY MIDDLE SCHOOL
IN WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL,
ALL SCHOOLS THAT ARE
PREDOMINANTLY CHILDREN OF
COLOR.
IN THE NEXT 6 WEEKS FOR THE
2020 BUDGET TO ADDRESS A $300
MILLION REVENUE SHORTFALL, WE
WILL BE FOCUSED ON REDUCING THE
BUDGET, USE FOR MILITARIZED
POLICE RESPONSE AND LOOKING AT
THE FUNDING ALLOCATED BY THE
BUDGET FOR NEW HIRES, BUT NOT
SPENT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULT
TEAM MEETING HIRING GOALS. AND,
OTHER FUNDING THAT DOES NOT BEST
SERVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS
OF THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ALSO AS WE'VE SAID WE
WILL BEGIN A CONVERSATION ABOUT
THE HIRING GOALS MOVING FORWARD
AND WHETHER OR NOT RELIANCE ON
GROWING THE SIZE OF THE
DEPARTMENT IS REALLY THE BEST
WAY TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFER.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WILL
COMMIT TO INVESTING FUNDING AND
COMMUNITIES MOST HARMED BY
INVOLVEMENT WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT, BLACK AND BROWN
PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES.
ONE STEP THAT THE COUNCIL HAS
TAKEN IS TO CREATE A COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICER PROGRAM THAT
WENT INTO EFFECT LATER THIS
YEAR.
THE ASSIST WITH MEDIATING
DISPUTES FALLING OFF ON CALLS
FOR NONEMERGENCY SERVICES,
HELPING RESIDENTS NAVIGATE
SERVICES, SUPPORT PROGRAMMING
FOR AT RISK YOUTH, AND ATTENDING
SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY-HOSTED
EVENT. SOME-- TO ACCESS
PROGRAMS LIKE OPPORTUNITY
HOUSING AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
SERVICES.
ONE STUDY SHOWS THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT SPENDS 21% OF TIME
RESPONDING TO AND TRANSPORTING
PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
THAT CANNOT CONTINUE.
AS NOTED IN THE PAST RELEASE,
ANNOUNCING THE CSO JOBS IT SAYS
SPD SPEAKS 6 TO FILL POSITIONS
WITH INDIVIDUALS FROM
DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS CURRENTLY
UNDERREPRESENTED INCLUDING
ELDERS, IMMIGRANTS, INDIVIDUALS
WITH PAST INVOLVEMENT IN THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS
POSTED, THE RESPONSE WAS
OVERWHELMING.
THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
EAGLE EAGER TO PARTICIPATE IN A
DIFFERENT MODEL OF PUBLIC
SAFETY IN OUR CITY.
I READ AN ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT
I WILL CLOSE OUT WITH THIS
QUOTE FROM A DALLAS CHIEF DAVID
BROWN.
HE WRITES EVERY SOCIETAL
FAILURE WE PUT ON THE COPS TO
SOLVE. THIS WAS SEVERAL DAYS
AFTER A SNIPER KILLED 5
OFFICERS IN HIS CITY.
NOT ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH
FUNDING, LET THE COP HANDLE IT.
NOT ENOUGH DRUG ADDICTION?
LET'S GIVE IT TO THE COPS.
SCHOOLS FAIL?
GIVE IT TO THE COPS.
THAT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK.
POLICING WAS NEVER MEANT TO
SOLVE ALL OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
I JUST ASK THAT OTHER PARTS OF
THE DEMOCRACY-- TO HELP US.
>> CLOSING OUT, I WANT TO,
AGAIN, HIGHLIGHT THE QUESTIONS
WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING
RELATING SPECIFICALLY TO HOW
MUCH FUNDING IS AVAILABLE DUE
TO SPD NOT MEETING PRIOR HIRING
GOALS.
HOW MUCH OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET
NEEDS TO BE SPENT, A BREAK DOWN
OF 911 CALLS AND THE COST OF
SCHOOL EMPHASIS OFFICERS
RELATED TO THE MILITARIZATION
OF SPD.
THE YEARS THESE ARE THE
QUESTIONS SENT THIS WEEK. HOW
MUCH IS SPENT ANNUALLY ON RIOT
GEAR, TEAR GRAPH GAS AND PEPPER
SPRAY?
OTHER CHEMICAL AGENTS USE
AGAINST PROTESTERS, FLASH BANG
GRENADES AND ANY OTHER LESS
THAN LETHAL EXPENDABLE WEAPON
THAT HAS BEEN USED AGAINST
PROTESTERS.
WHAT IS THE PER-UNIT COST AND
WHERE ARE SUCH WEAPONS SOURCED
FROM?
APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH HAS BEEN
SPENT ON THESE ITEMS SO FAR?
THEY BREA OUT HOW MUCH
OVERTIME HAS BEEN USED.
ASKING SOCIETY TO RESTOCK NON-
LETHAL EXPENDABLE WEAPONS THAT
I MENTIONED GIVEN THE AMOUNTS
THAT HAVE BEEN USED, AND IF SO,
HOW MUCH?
HOW MUCH HAS THE CITY SPENT ON
SUPPORTING NATIONAL GUARD
MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING?
HOW MUCH HAVE THEY SPENT ON
SUPPORTING OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHO HAVE
BEEN WORKING AT THE PROTESTS?
AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE
ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT HAS
BEEN QUEUED UP BEFORE I THINK
IN THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON
HOMELESSNESS ON FUNDING BEING
USED IN POLICE DEPARTMENT
ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS.
THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS, THE
NUMBER OF HOURS ON OUTREACH?
THE NUMBER OF HOURS SPENT ON
OBSTRUCTION MITIGATION ON
ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS? THEN LASTLY
WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED A 0-BASED
BUDGET AND USING, AGAIN, THE
LENS OF RACIAL EQUITY TO BUILD
IT BACK UP, ZERO-BASED
BUDGETING MEANS THAT ALL
EXPENSES MUST BE JUSTIFIED FOR
EACH NEW PERIOD BASED ON NEED
AND THE PROCESS STARTS FROM A 0
BASE.
EVERY SINGLE FUNCTION WOULD BE
ANALYZED FOR THE NEED TO
ACHIEVE STATED GOALS THAT WE
ALL AGREE ON AND THE COST FOR
THOSE GOALS.
I'M HOPING IN THIS SHORT TIME
THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN USE
THAT SORT OF FRAMEWORK.
WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY GREG
DOSS , THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE,
AND ANGELA SOCHI OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
GREG WILL BE MAKING THE
PRESENTATION AND CARA AND ANGELA
ARE HERE TO ANSWER BUDGET
-RELATED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
SPD BUDGET AND GREG DOSS HAS
DONE AN EXEMPLARY JOB PREPARING
THIS ON SHORT NOTICE.
IF YOU HAVE POLICY RELATED
QUESTIONS, STAFF CAN COMPILE
THOSE AND GET BACK TO YOU.
OUR DISCUSSION FOR TODAY IS NOT
ABOUT POLICY-BASED QUESTIONS
BUT ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT WE
ARE GOING TO BE DELIBERATING,
AND THE USE OF THOSE. IT IS
VERY DENSE INCLUDING A LOT OF
INFORMATION SO I WOULD LIKE TO
ALLOW FOR COUNCILMEMBERS
QUESTIONS AFTER STAFF PRESENTS
EACH SLIDE.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I WOULD
REQUEST YOU KEEP GENERAL
COMMENTS FOR AFTER THE
PRESENTATION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I
WOULD WANT TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW
AND I THINK MY RECORD SPEAKS
FOR ITSELF SO I'M GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND MAKE MY COMMENTS.
>> YOU DID SAY SOME COMMENTS AT
THE VERY BEGINNING,--
>> 500 PEOPLE.
>> SPECIAL STAFF ASKED THAT WE
HOLD OUR POLICY-BASED COMMENTS
AND QUESTIONS--
>> BUT COUNCILMEMBERS, YOU BOTH
MAJOR GENERAL COMMENTS AND MY
OFFICE HAS THE STRONGEST RECORD
ON THESE ISSUES AND I INSIST ON
MAKING THESE AND I'M GOING TO
GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM.
YESTERDAY WE HAD AN INCREDIBLE
RALLY OF 2000 COMMUNITY MEMBERS,
MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN ON THE
FRONT LINES FOR THE LAST 10 DAYS
THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY SET OFF BY
THE GEORGE FLOYD MURDER BUT
REFLECTS LONG-STANDING ISSUES
OF RACE, ENDEMIC RACISM IN
POLICE VIOLENCE.
WE HAVE INCREDIBLY DYNAMIC
SPEAKERS FROM THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT, BLACK COMMUNITY
LEADERS WHO HAVE BEEN LOOKING
FOR DECADES.
WE HAD SPEAKERS FROM THE
SEATTLE EDUCATIONAL
ASSOCIATION, THE UNION THAT HAS
JUST VOTED TO REMOVE FROM THE
LABOR COUNCIL, AND IN FACT, THE
SPEAKER WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN
MEMBER OF THE EDUCATORS
ASSOCIATION.
AND HE IS A TEACHER. WE HAD
LOGAN SWAN PRESENTING A PETITION
TO REMOVE THE SEATTLE POLICE
OFFICERS FROM THE LABOR COUNCIL.
AS MY OFFICE HAS SAID, WE STAND
WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY AND
DEMANDING THE SEATTLE POLICE HE
DEFUNDED AT LEAST 50%.
I WILL NOT SAY MORE BECAUSE
I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE BUT ALSO
DEMANDING THAT IT BE TAKEN AWAY
PERMANENTLY FROM POLICE AND A
COMMUNITY CENTER BE ORGANIZED
THERE.
WE ALSO SUPPORT THE KING COUNTY
EQUITY NOW COALITION TO BECOME
THE WILLIAM GIRLS SECTOR FOR
ENTERPRISE.
BUT WE ALSO NEED AN ELECTED
COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT BOARD WITH
FULL POWERS OF THE POLICE.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE.
WE DON'T WANT COMMITTEES OR
COMMISSIONS APPOINTED BY CITY
COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND THE
SAME COALITIONS THAT HAVE FAILED
. WE NEED A COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT
BOARD DIRECTLY ELECTED BY
VOTERS.
WE HAVE SEEN THE STATISTICS.
30 BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY
MEMBERS HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY
SEATTLE POLICE SINCE 2011 AND
NOT ONE HAS BEEN PROSECUTED.
OUT OF THEM, 8 PEOPLE WERE
MURDERED SINCE MAYOR JENNY
DURKAN WAS ELECTED.
NOT ONE WAS PROSECUTED.
WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO EDUCATE
OUR MOVEMENT BY LOOKING AT THE
HISTORY OF MANY OF THE
COUNCILMEMBERS HERE.
AS WAS REPORTED BEFORE, 2 YEARS
AGO THE POLICE CONTRACT WHICH
WAS GOING TO ROLLBACK
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES AND WAS
OPPOSED BY THE BLOOD COMMUNITY,
SOME COUNCILMEMBERS ARE HERE
TODAY AND VOTED FOR THE POLICE
CONTRACT AND I WAS THE ONLY NO
VOTE ON THE CONTRACT. BEFORE
THAT OR RIGHT AFTER THERE WAS A
VOTE ON HIRING BONUSES THAT IS
MEANT AS MONEY ALLOCATED TO
ATTRACT MORE COPS. THAT WAS
JUST LAST FALL, ACTUALLY.
AGAIN I WAS THE ONLY NO VOTE.
WHERE THE HIRING BONUSES FOR
SOCIAL WORKERS?
WE DO NOT ANY MORE COPS, WE
NEED TO COMBAT INEQUALITY AND
REPEATEDLY COUNCILMEMBERS,
COUNSEL UP TO COUNSEL HAVE
VOTED AGAINST BUDGET PROPOSALS
FOR DEFUNDING THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
I NEVER BROUGHT SOMETHING SO
BOLD, THESE COUNCILMEMBERS
VOTED AGAINST EVEN VERY MODEST
DEFUNDING OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, VOTE AFTER VOTE
AGAINST THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET
PROPOSALS FOR STOPPING THESE
SWEEPS SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR MOVEMENT DOES NOT
DEVELOP DELUSIONS AND
ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE FAILED
US BEFORE AND IS PUBLIC, AND
SAID, CANNOT PUT FAITH IN AN
ESTABLISHMENT THAT BROUGHT US
HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR PUBLIC
SECTOR, UNION, LIVING WAGE JOBS
AND CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER
INDUSTRIES WITH PRIORITY HIRE
AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS TO
PRIORITIZE OUR MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES AND AS I'VE SAID WE
HAVE TO HAVE A TOWN HALL ON THE
16th.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS
THIS DEBATE IN OUR MOVEMENT
THAT SHOULD BE DEFUNDED BY 50%
OR SO OR ABOLISH ENTIRELY?
WE SEE THIS LANGUAGE BEING CO-
OPTED BY POLITICIANS THAT IT
WILL DISMANTLE, BUT WHAT DOES
IT REALLY MEAN?
I WANT TO CLARIFY MY POSITION.
AS A SOCIALIST I'M FIGHTING FOR
A SOCIETY FREE OF POLICE, FREE
OF RACISM, SEXISM, AND ALL
OPPRESSION.
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE POLICE
FORCES CANNOT BE REIMAGINED OR
REBRANDED OUT OF EXISTENCE.
IN MINNEAPOLIS RIGHT NOW, THE
PROMISES THAT WERE MADE ALONG
THOSE LINES ARE BEING BROUGHT
BY COUNCILMEMBERS IN THE
GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS
WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A
BIG ELEMENT OF-- THESE ARE NOT
REAL DISCUSSIONS, AND AS I'VE
SAID COUNCILMEMBERS THEMSELVES
HAVE HAD TO ADMIT 2 DAYS AGO
THAT THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY VOTE
TO DISBAND THE POLICE.
THIS DISCUSSION, WHAT IT SHOWS
IS THAT POLITICIANS IN CITY
AFTER CITY ARE UNDER PRESSURE
FROM THE MOVEMENT AND THAT IS
VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE WHAT WE ARE UP
AGAINST.
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES REPORTED,
AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
CAMDEN, QUOTE, THE NEW CAMDEN
POLICE FORCES RUN BY THE
COUNTY, NOT THE CITY. SOME
RESIDENTS COMPLAINED THAT THEY
DO NOT HAVE A VOICE IN ITS
OPERATION, NOR DOES THE NEW
FORCE REFLECT THE COMMUNITY.
ROUGHLY HALF THE OFFICERS ARE
WHITE WHILE THE CITY IS MORE
THAN 90% NOT WHITE.
LA TIMES CONTINUES TO SAY ABOUT
THREE QUARTERS OF THE OLD FORCE
WERE REHIRED TO THE NEW ONE AND
THOMPSON, THE OLD CHIEF,
REMAINED IN CHARGE.
THE DEPARTMENT NOW HAS NEARLY
400 OFFICERS, MORE THAN BEFORE.
SO LET'S NOT MISLEAD OURSELVES
IN THE MOVEMENT, BROTHERS AND
SISTERS IN THE MOVEMENT I'M
SPEAKING TO YOU, NOT POLITICAL
OFFICIALS, LET'S NOT BE MISLED
BY THIS ILLUSION OF DISMANTLING
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE
POLICE EXIST UNDER CAPITALISM
FOR A REASON JUST AS THE FBI
EXISTS, THE CIA, THE NSA, AND
ALL THE OTHER FORCES OF
OPPRESSIVE STATES.
THEY EXIST TO DEFEND CAPITALISM
WHICH NEEDS REPRESSION.
IT IS A SYSTEM THAT NEEDS
REPRESSION TO ENFORCE A DEEPLY
UNEQUAL AND UNJUST SOCIETY IN
WHICH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
US FACE HUNGER, JOBLESSNESS,
ECONOMIC, AND OTHER SOCIAL
STAGNATION WHILE THE VERY FEW
AT THE TOP RATED.
THIS KIND OF DEEPLY UNEQUAL
SOCIETY NEEDS OPPRESSION TO
DEFEND ITSELF.
WE NEED A DIFFERENT KIND OF
SOCIETY AND THAT'S WHY I'M A
SOCIALIST, BECAUSE I THINK WE
NEED TO FIGHT FOR A WORLD BASED
ON SOLITARY AND EQUALITY IN
WHICH THE WORLD'S RESOURCES AND
MAJOR CORPORATIONS ARE
DEMOCRATICALLY OWNED AND
CONTROLLED BY WORKERS, WHICH IS
THE ONLY BASIS ON WHICH WE CAN
CREATE A WORLD WHERE NO POLICE
AND REPRESSIVE FORCES CAN EXIST.
AS BLACK PANTHER LEADERS SAID,
IF A WHITE MAN WANTS TO LYNCH
ME THAT'S HIS PROBLEM.
IF HE HAS THE POWER TO LYNCH
ME, THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
RACISM IS NOT A QUESTION OF
ATTITUDE, IT'S A QUESTION OF
POWER.
IT GETS ITS POWER FROM
CAPITALISM, THUS IF YOU ARE
ANTIRACIST WHETHER YOU KNOW IT
OR NOT, YOU MUST BE
ANTICAPITALIST.
SO WE MUST CONTINUE A POLITICAL
STRUGGLE TO DISMANTLE
CAPITALISM ITSELF BUT AT THIS
MOMENT, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THAT OUR MOVEMENT NEEDS TO BE
INDEPENDENT OF THE CORPORATE
POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT AND WE
NEED TO FIGHT HARD TO WIN
DEFUND SPD, TO FUND COMMUNITY
PROGRAMS, WE NEED TO WIN THE
TAX AMAZON--
>> CAN YOU PLEASE WRAP UP?
>> WITH HOUSING AND JOBS IN THE
GREEN NEW DEAL.
AND WE SHOULD KEEP FIGHTING.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT, AND THANK YOU TO
CENTRAL STAFF AND SPD FOCUS ON
THE LINE.
GREG DOSS DID SEND A POWERPOINT
PRESENTATIONS ARE YOU GOING TO
BE SHARING YOUR SCREEN AS WELL?
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA, I WILL ATTEMPT TO
SHARE RIGHT NOW.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THE POWERPOINT?
SHE TOLD ME HOW MUCH WORK YOU
ARE DOING. THANK YOU FOR THE
INTRODUCTION COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
AS YOU MENTIONED, I AM JOINED
TODAY BY SOME COLLEAGUES FROM
THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE AND ALSO
BY ANGELA WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR BUDGET AND FINANCE
FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
BEFORE I GET STARTED I WANT TO
THANK ANGELA AND CARA FOR THE
WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE ON
THIS PRESENTATION OVER THE LAST
48 HOURS.
IT IS REALLY A MONUMENTAL FEAT
BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTING AND
BUDGET SYSTEMS DO NOT ALWAYS
PROVIDE IN A WAY THAT IS EASILY
UNDERSTANDABLE OR PRESENTABLE.
COMPLEX DATA LIKE THE SEALED
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. IT IS
FANTASTIC THEY WERE ABLE TO
DEVOTE THE TIME TO DO IT AND I
AM VERY PLEASED TO WORK WITH
THEM.
THEY ARE 2 OF THE MOST
CONFIDENT AND HARD-WORKING
COLLEAGUES THAT I'VE HAD AND I
JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR
THEIR WORK IN THE LAST FEW
DAYS.
FINALLY I WANT ALL OF YOU TO
KNOW THAT THE 3 OF US STAND BY
TO PROVIDE YOU WITH WHATEVER
INFORMATION YOU NEED AS YOU
UNDERTAKE THE PROCESS OF
EXAMINING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND THE TYPE OF WORK DONE BY
POLICE OFFICERS.
>> THANK YOU.
BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF YOU TOGGLE
TO THE SCREEN SHARE ICON, I'M
NOT GREAT AT TECHNOLOGY BUT
THAT MAY MAKE OUR SCREENS A
LITTLE BIT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE MONITOR THAT
HAS IT GOING FROM SMALL-- I
THINK THAT'S IT.
DOES THAT WORK?
SOMEBODY ELSE MAY BE ABLE TO
HELP BUT LET'S GO AHEAD.
GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO FIGURE
OUT, I DON'T THINK WE CONNECTED
ON THIS PORTION, AS WE HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER QUESTIONS AFTER
EACH SLIDE, IS THAT SOMETHING
YOU WANT TO MANAGE OR SHOULD I
MANAGE THAT?
>> YOU ARE NOT WELCOME TO.
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOLKS
TO DO IS TO THE EXTENT THAT
THEY CAN, EITHER USE THE HAND
RAISE FUNCTION OR SHOOT ME A
TEXT.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING
EVERYBODY'S HEADS ON THE SCREEN
HERE SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE
YOU ACTUALLY RAISING YOUR HAND,
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I'M
ALSO HAPPY TO IDENTIFY FOLKS
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT
OF QUESTIONS.
IF THAT'S HELPFUL I CAN HELP
MANAGE FOLKS RAISING THEIR
HANDS.
>> SO, IS THIS A BETTER VIEW OF
THE PRESENTATION?
>> NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
FOR SOME REASON ON THE RIGHT IT
IS A COLUMN WITH YOUR PICTURE
AND IT'S CUTTING OFF HALF OF
THE PRESENTATION.
>> OKAY.
SO WHEN I EXPAND, LIKE SO, YOU
CAN SEE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION
BUT IT'S SMALLER, I'M GUESSING?
>> YES.
I CAN MANAGE WITH THIS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS.
>> I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD, LET'S
GO FOR IT.
>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
START WITH THE FIRST SLIDE AND
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THIS.
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS
AN OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET
AND I'M GOING TO SPEND A FEW
MINUTES FAMILIARIZING YOU WITH
THE VARIOUS EXPENDITURE
CATEGORIES AND AS WE MOVE
FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION
YOU WILL FIND THAT I HAVE
SLIDES FOR LINE BY LINE DETAIL
FOR EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.
I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH
PERSONNEL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE
THESE NUMBERS SO I'M GOING TO
READ THEM.
PERSONNEL HERE IS JUST SALARIES
AND BENEFITS.
THAT TOTAL FOR THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ABOUT $306
MILLION AND REPRESENTS ABOUT
75% OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET.
THOSE ARE SALARIES AND BENEFITS
THAT SUPPORT ABOUT 2000
EMPLOYEES AND WE ARE GOING TO
BE GOING A LITTLE LATER INTO
HOW EMPLOYEES ARE BROKEN DOWN
IN THE DEPARTMENT.
BUT, THAT IS BY FAR, THE
LARGEST EXPENSE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THE NEXT LARGEST EXPENSE IS
OVERTIME AND THAT FIGURE IS
ABOUT $30 MILLION.
HERE IN THIS CASE THAT IS ABOUT
7%, THIS CHUNK HERE.
WHEN YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE
OVERTIME AND SALARY/BENEFIT
BUDGET, THIS PIECE HERE, YOU
HAVE NOW COVERED ABOUT 82% OF
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET.
SO PUT SIMPLY, 82% OF $400
MILLION IS PAYING FOR SALARY
AND BENEFITS, AND OVERTIME
SALARY FOR 2000 CITY EMPLOYEES.
THEN WE WILL GET INTO SOME OF
THE NON-PERSONNEL CHARGES.
THE LARGEST NON-PERSONNEL CHARGE
IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL INTERFUND
CHARGES.
INTERFUND CHARGES, AS YOU CAN
SEE, ARE FOR FLEETS AND
FACILITIES.
FOR VEHICLES, SEATTLE IT, ALL
OF THE IT PROFESSIONALS THAT
ARE TECHNICALLY PART OF THE
SEATTLE IT DEPARTMENT. FOR HR,
JUDGMENT CLAIMS, CITYWIDE
FUNCTIONS THAT SPD HAS TO PAY
FOR IT.
THESE ARE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE
PROVIDED TO SPD BUT NOT PART OF
SPD, PER SE, AND AS YOU CAN
SEE, THAT AMOUNT IS $57 MILLION.
WORKING MY WAY DOWN, IF YOU TAKE
THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF
PERSONNEL AND YOU TAKE THE
INTERFUND CHARGES, AGAIN
FLEETS, FACILITIES, IT, YOU ARE
NOW UP TO 96% OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET.
WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT IS A VERY
SMALL FRACTION OF THE BUDGET.
THE MONEY USED FOR EQUIPMENT,
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR
TRAVEL, TRAINING, AND YOU CAN
SEE I HAVE THESE CATEGORIES
HERE OF DISCRETIONARY PURCHASE
ACCOUNTS COMING TO $5 MILLION.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO $6
MILLION AND TRAVEL AND TRAINING
COMES DOWN TO ABOUT $1 MILLION.
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT, THE
MONEY THAT SPD ACTUALLY HAS
CONTROL OVER SPENDING BESIDES
THE SALARY BENEFITS AND
OVERTIME, IS ABOUT $12 MILLION
AND ABOUT 3% OF THE BUDGET.
AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, LATER IN
THIS PRESENTATION I HAVE FOR
EACH ONE OF THESE LINE ITEMS,
DETAILED LINE BY LINE BUDGETS
THAT WILL SHOW YOU EXACTLY HOW
THIS MONEY IS SPENT AND
DISTRIBUTED BY SECTION AND BY
PERSONNEL THROUGHOUT THE
DEPARTMENT.
WITH THAT I WILL STOP AND ASK
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON
THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU, YES.
COUNCILMEMBERS MORALES AND
ANDREW LEWIS IN THE QUEUE.
>> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?
I GOT KICKED OFF MY COMPUTER
AND HIM ON MY PHONE NOW,
ANOTHER REASON WE NEED
MUNICIPAL BROADBAND BUT THAT'S
ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
I DO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
THE INFORMATION ON SLIDE ONE,
PARTICULARLY THE INTERFUND
CHARGES.
WE HAVE HEARD THE LAST COUPLE
OF MAYORS TALKING ABOUT
BECOMING A SMART CITY.
I WONDER IF YOU CAN BREAK DOWN
THE IT LINE IN PARTICULAR.
I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT KIND OF
TECHNOLOGY IS IN THIS ITEM.
WHAT IS THE DATA BEING
COLLECTED, HOW IS IT COLLECTED,
WHO HAS ACCESS, WHAT IS DONE
WITH THAT.
AND THEN IF THERE IS A
PERCENTAGE OF THAT THAT INCLUDES
SURVEILLANCE OR IF THAT IS
SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE BUDGET.
>> I CAN START BY ANSWERING
YOUR QUESTIONS TO SAY WE DO
HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE
INTERFUND CHARGES AND I CAN
SKIP AHEAD AND SHOW YOU A BREAK
DOWN NOW.
UNLESS YOU PREFER--
>> IF IT'S OKAY, LET'S STICK
WITH-- WITH A SNAPSHOT AND GO
DEEPER ON THAT ITEM IF THAT IS
OKAY WITH COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES?
>> THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T SEE THAT IT IS COVERED
BUT I'M HAPPY TO WAIT, THAT'S
FINE.
>> APPRECIATE IT.
>> AND COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS HAD
A QUESTION AS WELL.
>> GREG, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING
YOU ARE GOING TO COVER LATER AS
WELL SO FEEL FREE TO FLAG THAT
BUT I WAS CURIOUS IN THESE
CATEGORIES.
ONE OF THE RECENT BIG EQUIPMENT
PURCHASES FOR SPD HAS BEEN BODY
WORN CAMERAS FOR ALL PATROL
OFFICERS.
I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF
THAT LIVES IN THIS BUDGET OR IF
THAT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND IF THAT'S COMING LATER
THAT'S FINE, BUT I'M CURIOUS IF
THOSE-- OF THOSE.
>> I THINK FOR THAT I WILL HAVE
TO TURN TO THE SPD BUDGET
DIRECTOR.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT LIVES WITH
IT ALLOCATIONS OR SPD, SO
ANGELA, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU
MAY KNOW ABOUT?
>> YES.
TO BRING SOME CLARITY TO THIS
PARTICULAR LINE, THE INTERFUND
CHARGES, THESE ARE ALL SET BY
THE MANUAL SO SPECIFIC IT ITEMS
, THINGS LIKE BODY WORN VIDEO
ARE BUILT INTO IT RATES JUST
LIKE THEY ARE FOR EVERY CITY
DEPARTMENT.
IN THE CASE OF THE BODY-WORN
VIDEO SYSTEM, THERE WAS A
PROJECT FOR THE ROLLOUT AND
IMPLEMENTATION.
IN THAT CASE, SEATTLE IT, WE
DON'T HAVE A CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BUDGET IN
OUR DEPARTMENT SO THAT WAS
FUNDED IN SEATTLE IT, THE
SUBSCRIPTION COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE PROGRAM.
ALSO THE BUDGET FOR THAT ALSO
LIVES IN SEATTLE IT.
>> AS A FOLLOW-UP, DOES THAT
COME IN ON THE INTERFUND TAB?
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?
>> KIND OF.
THE INTERFUND RATES ARE SET--
AGAIN, THE CENTRAL COST MANUAL
IS ABOUT 100 PAGES LONG AND
DESCRIBES HOW THEY COUNT TOTAL
NUMBER OF DEVICES AND IN THE
CASE OF BODY-WORN VIDEO I THINK
100% OF SUBSCRIPTION COSTS ARE
LIKELY BUILT INTO THAT NUMBER
BECAUSE IT IS AN SPD. MY GUESS
IS I CAN CONFIRM THAT TO YOU
BUT MY GUESS IS IT WILL BE
INCLUDED IN OUR IT INTERFUND.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ,
ANOTHER QUESTION PLEASE?
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE OF
THESE CATEGORIES WILL BE SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE
EXPENDITURE AND FUNDED BY
GENERAL REVENUE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO
SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED LEVEL
CATEGORIES A LITTLE BIT LATER
BUT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICERS ARE PART OF THE
PERSONNEL COSTS THAT $306
MILLION, AND THEY ARE
TECHNICALLY PART OF THE BUREAU
NAME ESCAPING ME. I WANT TO SAY
IT IS COMMUNITY OUTREACH BUREAU.
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BUREAU?
>> COLLABORATIVE POLICING,
THANK YOU.
IT USED TO BE COMMUNITY OUTREACH
YEARS AGO.
THEY ARE PART OF THE
COLLABORATIVE POLICING BUREAU.
>> GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE 2nd
SLIDE.
AS YOU SAW, THE LARGEST CHUNK
OF SPD BUDGET IS SALARIES AND
BENEFITS SO WE WANTED TO SHOW
YOU HOW THAT BREAKS OUT BETWEEN
CIVILIANS.
YOU HAVE HERE IN THE FIRST
COLUMN THE SWORN NUMBERS AND IN
THE 2nd, THE CIVILIAN NUMBERS,
AND THE TOTAL AT THE END.
STARTING WITH SWORN, THERE ARE
1424 POSITIONS THAT ARE SWORN
POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED AND
THAT IS ABOUT 71% OF ALL
PERSONNEL IN THE DEPARTMENT.
THE SHARE OF SALARIES AND
BENEFITS AS YOU CAN SEE IS
ABOUT 77%. THE 1424 I WILL TALK
ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
IT IS FUNDED FTE FOR SWORN AND
IT IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING
BECAUSE IT ALSO INCLUDES
RECRUITS AND RECRUITS ARE
TECHNICALLY NOT SWORN BUT THE
NUMBER INCLUDES ALL THE FOLKS
THAT ARE SWORN OR GOING TO BE
SWORN.
REGARDING COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD'S QUESTION ABOUT MONEY
FOR SWORN AND WHETHER OR NOT
THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY THE
COVID CRISIS, I WILL GO AHEAD
AND ADDRESS THAT NOW.
IT HAS.
THE DEPARTMENT IS NOW BUMPING UP
AGAINST ITS NUMBER OF 1424.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS IS, AND THIS IS
EXPECTED IN ANY RECESSION,
RECRUITING HAS PICKED UP
DRAMATICALLY AND SEPARATIONS
HAVE STOPPED. OR NOT STOPPED,
BUT VERY MUCH SLOWED DOWN.
IF YOU WERE TO LOOK THROUGH THE
MONTH OF APRIL IN THIS YEAR YOU
WOULD SEE THAT SPD HAS MADE 40
RECRUIT HIRES, COULD'VE LATERAL
HIRES FOR A TOTAL OF 32 IN THIS
AREA HERE AND THEY HAVE ONLY
HAD 17 SEPARATIONS.
SO THAT KIND OF DISPARITY HAS
BEEN UNSEEN FOR A VERY LONG
AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT LIKELY REFLECTS THE
RECESSION.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW FOR SURE, BUT
WHAT IT IS DOING IS CREATING A
SITUATION WHERE SPD IS
ESSENTIALLY, IT DOESN'T HAVE
ANY MORE MONEY TO HIRE MORE
PEOPLE SO WHAT THE DEPARTMENT
IS GOING TO BE DOING OVER THE
NEXT 3 MONTHS IS TO DISCONTINUE
HIRING RECRUITS. THAT IS
HAPPENING PARTIALLY BECAUSE AS
I'VE SAID, THEY ARE BUMPING UP
AGAINST THEIR FUNDED FTE LEVEL
AND IS ALSO HAPPENING BECAUSE
PRACTICAL COVID REASONS. THE
TESTS THAT OFFICERS WOULD TAKE
TO MOVE THEM INTO THE
RECRUITMENT SYSTEM, THERE ARE,
OF COURSE, GETTING HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE TOGETHER TO TAKE A TEST.
THE DEPARTMENT EXPECTS IT WILL
HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK ON HIRING
RECRUITS FOR A FEW MONTHS.
IF THINGS ARE TO TURN TO NORMAL
ACCORDING TO THE STAFFING PLAN
THIS FALL, SPD WOULD RESUME
HIRING OF RECRUITS AND WOULD
HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE 7
RECRUITS IN EACH OF THE LAST 3
MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.
IF EVERYTHING RETURNS TO NORMAL
AND THEY ARE ABLE TO TEST AND
GET RECRUITS THEY WILL BE
LOOKING AT MAKING 21 HIRES
TOWARDS A SWORN FORCE. THAT IS
SORT OF A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW
OF THE HIRING SITUATION. I
THINK WHAT IS INHERENT IS THAT
THERE IS NOT MONEY LEFT OVER
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE
DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO
HIRE.
THAT WAS CERTAINLY 100% TRUE
UNTIL THE RECESSION AND NOW IT
IS COMPLETELY UP AND IN.
>> GREG, WHEN YOU SAY THE
DEPARTMENT IS BUMPING UP
AGAINST ITS FUNDED HIRES, ARE
YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS
PERIOD OF TIME OR THE ENTIRE
YEAR?
>> I'M SAYING THAT ACCORDING TO
THE STAFFING PLAN, THIS MONTH
AT THE END OF JUNE THEY WILL
HAVE 1424 FILLED FTE AND IF
THEY DO NOT HIRE FOR THE NEXT 3
MONTHS, AND THERE ARE A FEW
MORE SEPARATIONS, THEN THEY
WILL BE ABLE TO START HIRING
AGAIN AND HAVE THE MONEY TO
HIRE AGAIN IN THE FALL.
>> I JUST WANTED TO RE-ASK MY
QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR
AN ANSWER.
THE 1420S THE GOAL FOR WHAT
PERIOD OF TIME?
THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR OR
JUST UP TO THE 2nd QUARTER OF
2020?
>> THAT IS THE NUMBER OF FUNDED
FTE-- FTE, AND ANALYZE NUMBER.
>> IT IS AN ANNUALIZED NUMBER
BUT WE BREAK IT DOWN FOR
PURPOSES OF TRACKING
RECRUITMENT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ARE USING
HE NUMBER THAT WE BREAK
BY QUARTER FOR PURPOSES OF
TRACKING RECRUITMENT, OR IF YOU
ARE USING THE ANNUALIZED BUDGET
NUMBERS, O THANK YOU.
>> ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> WELL YES, I GUESS.
THIS REPRESENTS A DEPARTURE
FROM PAST PRODUCT THIS WHERE WE
TRY TO ANTICIPATE ATTRITION AND
HIGHER IN ADVANCE OF THAT.
GIVEN FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS
THIS YEAR WE OPTED TO-- AND IT
ENDS UP BEING A 4-MONTH HIRING
FREEZE, WE HAVE OPTED TO
INSTEAD OF PRE-HIRING IN
ANTICIPATION OF SEPARATIONS, WE
FELT FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT
THAT WE DO HAVE A POOL OF
APPROVED CANDIDATES THAT WE ARE
HOLDING ON AND FELT IT WISE TO
MONITOR ATTRITION AND SEE THAT
WE WERE NOT HIRING OVER AND
ABOVE WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY
SEPARATING.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
SHOULD I MOVE ON?
>> I DO NOT SEE ANY RAISED
HANDS OR RECEIVED TEXT FROM MY
COLLEAGUES.
I HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT HOW TO
GET EVERYONE'S HEADS SHOWING.
I DID SEND A TEXT MESSAGE.
>> NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO
CLARIFY SOME INFORMATION AND
MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE IT RIGHT,
JUST TO UNDERSTAND MOVING
FORWARD, DID YOU SAY THERE WERE
40 NEW SWORN OFFICERS THAT WERE
HIRED IN APRIL AND DURING THAT
TIME THERE WERE 17 WHO QUIT, SO
BASICALLY A NET EXPANSION OF 23
SWORN OFFICERS? THAT IS ONE
QUESTION, DID I GET THAT RIGHT?
AND ALSO, I'M NOT CLEAR BECAUSE
, I'M NOT CLEAR HOW HIRING IS
GOING ON FOR NEW SWORN OFFICERS
BECAUSE HASN'T THERE BEEN A
HIRING FREEZE THAT HAS TAKEN
EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE OTHER
CITY OF SEATTLE DEPARTMENTS?
AND TO PUT A POINT ON THAT, THE
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS WHICH
DOES REALLY IMPORTANT WORK HAS
BEEN UNDERSTAFFED FOR MONTHS.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH THE RECESSION THAT
MUCH.
SO THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS,
FOR INSTANCE, HAS OPEN
POSITIONS THEY HAVE NOT FILLED
SO IT SEEMS LIKE QUITE THE
CONTRAST THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS
HAVE NOW HAD A HIRING FREEZE
AND MANY OF THOSE SAME
DEPARTMENTS WHO HAD LONG TIME
HIRING PROBLEMS BUT YET SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HIRED AT
LEAST 23 NEW SWORN OFFICERS IN
APRIL DURING COVID?
>> TO CLARIFY ONE POINT, IT IS
THE ENTIRE YEAR THROUGH APRIL.
THOSE ARE THE ACTUALS IN THE
LAST STAFFING REPORT.
IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THEM TO
CATCH UP, SO THE LAST STAFFING
REPORT TRANSMITTED TO THE
COUNCIL WAS A NET OF 40
OFFICERS HIRED-- ACTUALLY I
SHOULD SAY 40 RECRUITS HIRED, 2
LATERAL OFFICERS, AND 17
SEPARATIONS.
THAT'S FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL
MONTHS THIS YEAR THROUGH APRIL.
>> MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT I
THOUGHT THAT I HEARD FROM THE
PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMISSION
THAT THEY WERE SUSPENDING
TESTING BECAUSE OF COVID-19
CONCERNS BUT I MAY BE
REMEMBERING AN ERROR.
I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED HEARING
FROM THEM SOMETIME IN MAYBE THE
LAST MONTH OR SO.
>> I THINK THAT'S ENTIRELY
POSSIBLE AND AS I ALLUDED TO
EARLIER I HAVE HEARD FROM THE
DEPARTMENT THAT TESTING IS
GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND OF
COURSE THAT IS ANOTHER REASON
POTENTIALLY WHY THEY ARE GOING
ON A 4-MONTH RECRUIT HIRING
FREEZE. IN TERMS OF FOLKS THAT
HAD BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD SINCE
JANUARY, THE WAY THE HIRING
SYSTEM WORKS, THE TESTS HAPPEN
ONLY A FEW TIMES A YEAR AND
THEY GET A GREAT BUNCH OF
CANDIDATES.
I WILL ASK ANGELA TO TELL ME IF
I'M WRONG BUT MY GUESS IS THAT
THE FOLKS COMING ON OVER THE
LAST FEW MONTHS CAME FROM THE
LAST TEST PRE-COVID AND IT
TAKES A WILD TO GET THEM BACK
GROUND AND INTERVIEWED SO I
THINK THE 40 AND THE 2 THAT
CAME ON ANYTIME BETWEEN THE
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND
APRIL, I SUSPECT CAME FROM
TESTS THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO
COVID.
>> A QUESTION FROM CHAIR
MOSQUEDA .
>> THANK YOU.
THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN
LOOK INTO LATER BUT I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERALL
RECRUITMENT STRATEGY AND
UNDERSTAND THERE IS A HEAVY
EMPHASIS ON MILITARY EVENTS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT AND PERHAPS WE
DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT
QUESTION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S
MORE POLICY ORIENTED, BUT IF
THERE IS AN ELEMENT THAT IS NOT
TIED TO THINGS LIKE THAT IT
WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO
KNOW.
>> THERE IS A BUDGET ELEMENT
TIED TO RECRUITMENT.
I THINK THE DEPARTMENT WOULD
PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTION
YOU ARE ASKING SEPARATELY FROM
THIS PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN BOASTING
THAT THEY HAD THE HIGHEST LEVEL
OF RECRUITS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR
IN THIS LAST YEAR BUT I DON'T
KNOW THAT THAT SPEAKS TO YOUR
QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
THEY ARE MOSTLY GOING TO
MILITARY EVENTS. THAT IS
SOMETHING I THINK THEY WILL
NEED TO ANSWER.
>> APPRECIATED.
WE CAN DO THAT LATER IF YOU'D
LIKE.
>> WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON
THAT.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES .
>> NOPE, SORRY.
I'M LOOKING AHEAD TO SLIDE 9,
THANK YOU.
>> LET'S MOVE AHEAD TO SLIDE
AND THEN.
PERFECT.
>> [ LAUGHTER ] GOING TO SLIDE
3 UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO SKIP TO
SLIDE 9--
>> [ LAUGHTER ]
>> THAT'S OKAY, I'M JUST TRYING
TO GET INTO THE QUEUE, SORRY
EVERYBODY.
>> THIS IS ONE THAT WE THROUGH
IN HERE TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF
HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO PAY FOR
ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR 75% OF THE
SALARY AND BENEFITS, OR 75% OF
THE BUDGET AT SPE-- SPD.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE TOP 10
JOB TITLES IN THE NUMBER OF FTE
IN THIS COLUMN FOR EACH TITLE.
THE SALARY AND THE BENEFITS FOR
THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY OF
EMPLOYEE, AND THE AVERAGE COST
OF THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY OF
EMPLOYEE.
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE IN
THE GREEN ARE CIVILIANS AND THE
BLUE, OF COURSE, IS SWORN.
TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE
KIND OF COST DISPARITY THAT YOU
WILL SEE HERE, YOU WILL SEE
CIVILIANS ARE OBVIOUSLY IN THE
LOW-100S. FOR THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ABOUT
100,000 AND YOU GO UP TO ABOUT
113 FOR THE DISPATCHER 2 LEVEL
AS OPPOSED TO POLICE OFFICER
PATROL. THE SMALLEST IS 150 AND
OF COURSE THAT IS THE HIGHEST
GROUP AND AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY
DOWN YOU HAVE A LIEUTENANT
WHICH WILL TYPICALLY COST A
COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
PER LIEUTENANT.
THIS OF COURSE IS SALARIES AND
BENEFITS.
THIS IS THE COST OF SAY, WHEN
THE TENANT.
>> COULD USE A BALLPARK WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF THAT AVERAGE COST
IS SALARIES ALONE?
>> I CAN'T BUT ANGELA CAN.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER SO
ANGELA, YOU ARE UP.
>> ON AVERAGE IT'S ABOUT 30%-35%
. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT ALL
EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE THE BENEFIT
STRUCTURE FOR SWORN IS SO
DIFFERENT FROM CIVILIANS IT IS
DEFINITELY WORTH CALLING THOSE
OUT.
FOR THE SWORN EMPLOYEE YOU ARE
LOOKING AT 25% ON AVERAGE FOR
BENEFITS AND FOR THE CIVILIAN
EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY ABOUT 48%.
>> WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT
DIFFERENCE?
>> THE SWORN ARE DIFFERENT IN
THAT THEY DON'T PAY INTO THE
SAME RETIREMENT FUND.
THEY DON'T PAY INTO SOCIAL
SECURITY, THEIR HEALTHCARE COSTS
, HEALTHCARE IS DIFFERENT THAN
MOST CITY EMPLOYEES.
HEALTHCARE IS LESS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE STRUCTURE
OF THE BENEFITS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
SORRY.
>> ON THE HEALTHCARE PIECE I
WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. IS THERE
A LINE ITEM THAT WE HAVE SEEN
GROW OVER TIME FOR ACCESS TO
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, SUICIDE
PREVENTION?
WE KNOW THAT LIKE MANY FIRST
RESPONDERS THERE IS A HIGH RATE
OF SUICIDE AND THAT'S A VERY
LARGE ISSUE.
I CONDEMN THE COMMENTS THAT ARE
MAKING IT SOUND LIKE ANYBODY
SHOULD BE NOT DOING THEIR BEST
TO GET ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE TO
PREVENT SELF HARM OR SUICIDE.
PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO THOSE
SERVICES AND RECOGNIZING THE
HIGH RATES ESPECIALLY AMONG
FIREFIGHTERS, FOR EXAMPLE,
SOMETHING I'VE WORKED ON FOR A
LONG TIME TO MAKE SURE THOSE ON
THE FRONT LINE HAVE ACCESS TO
SERVICES AND TRAUMA TREATMENT.
I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF
FOLKS WHO HAVE SEEN AND HEARD A
LOT OF TRAUMATIC THINGS OR DONE
SOME TRAUMATIC THINGS.
IS THERE A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM
THAT WE HAVE SEEN GROW OVER
TIME TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND
SUICIDE PREVENTION STRATEGIES?
>> IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE
SPEAKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH
AND SUICIDE PREVENTION
STRATEGIES FOR OFFICERS, IS
THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> I THINK THAT IS A CITY
SERVICE AND I THINK SPD HAS
PEER COUNSELING AVAILABLE.
ANGELA IS THERE ANY MONEY
SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE OR IS IT
CITYWIDE?
>> THERE IS THE EMPLOYEE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHICH ALL
CITY EMPLOYEES PAY A SMALL
AMOUNT FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES
AS A CENTRAL SERVICE.
WE DO HAVE DEDICATED PEER
SUPPORT EMPLOYEES EMBEDDED
WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND THEN A CADRE OF OTHERS WHO
ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED TO RESPOND
AND DIRECT PEOPLE.
A LOT OF IT IS WE DON'T HAVE A
SPECIFIC BUDGET LINE FOR THAT
OUTSIDE OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO
WORK EITHER FULL-TIME OR PART-
TIME ON THAT TOPIC.
OFFICERS TO HAVE ACCESS,
HOWEVER, 2, I BELIEVE PRIMARILY
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
TARGETED AT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I WANT TO SAY IT IS CODE FOR
THE SERVICE THAT WE UTILIZE
WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO
COUNSELING SERVICES AND WHATNOT.
WITHIN THE BUDGET YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO FIND A LARGE DOLLAR
AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
SPECIFIC ISSUE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS YOU HAVE
A QUESTION PLEASE?
>> THANK YOU.
GREG, MAYBE THIS WILL COME
LATER BUT I WANTED TO ASK FOR
THE PURPOSES OF COMPARISON,
OBVIOUSLY COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS ARE NOT ONE OF THE TOP
POSITIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT BUT
I DO THINK AS CHAIR HERBOLD ,
PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR HIGHLIGHTED
IN HER OPENING REMARKS THIS
SORT OF MODEL OF THE UNARMED
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER AND
THE KIND OF INTERVENTIONS THEY
PROVIDE.
IT MAY FORM A BIG PART OF THE
DECISIONS WE MAY WANT TO TAKE
ON AS A COUNCIL. I'M KIND OF
CURIOUS WHERE THEY FALL IN THE
SCHEME OF THIS AND I DON'T
REMEMBER FROM JANUARY WHEN THE
COMMITTEE DID A LITTLE BIT OF
WORK HEARING ABOUT THE ROLLOUT
OF THAT PLAN, ON IF THEY ARE OR
ARE NOT SWORN.
I THINK THEY ARE NOT SWORN BUT
IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT AS
WELL?
>> THEY ARE NOT AND IN THE LAST
BUDGET ROUND WE ADDED 6 MORE, I
BELIEVE, FOR A TOTAL OF 18 AND
GOSH, I AM BLINKING ON THE PER-
PERSON SALARY AND BENEFIT RATE
AND I'M HOPING ANGELA MIGHT
KNOW.
>> FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS YOU ARE LOOKING AT
ABOUT $100,000 PER EMPLOYEE FOR
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS.
SUPERVISORS OBVIOUSLY SLIGHTLY
MORE.
>> IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THE
WHOLE PACKAGE? IT WOULD BE
ABOUT THE SAME AS A PATROL
OFFICER IN TERMS OF COST?
>> THE 100,000 INCLUDES SALARY
AND BENEFITS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE
SOME OVERHEAD INVOLVED IN TERMS
OF VEHICLES AND OFFICE SPACE
AND WHATNOT THAT WOULD INCREASE
THE COST.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT ON HAND BUT
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE, IT'S ABOUT
$100,000 WHEREAS A PATROL
OFFICER IS ABOUT 150.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY MORE
QUESTIONS FOR THIS SLIDE.
>> THIS SITE IS DESIGNED TO
SHOW YOU WHERE THE CIVILIANS ARE
AND WHERE THE SWORN ARE IN THE
DEPARTMENT. AND, SORT OF GIVE
YOU A VISUAL UNDERSTANDING OF
THE RATIO.
THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A LOT
HERE THAT ISN'T INTUITIVE SO I
WILL NOT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON
THIS, BUT THE GREEN IS THE
CIVILIANS AND THE BLUE, OF
COURSE, IS THE SWORN.
TAKING A LOOK AT THIS
PARTICULAR COLUMN YOU ARE
LOOKING AT PATROL OPERATIONS
WHICH IS ALL OF THE PRECINCTS.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE 865 OFFICERS AND 19
CIVILIANS.
THE 19 CIVILIANS ARE PRETTY
MUCH SUPPORT PERSONNEL AT THIS
POINT.
THESE NUMBERS, I SHOULD NOTE,
ARE THE AUTHORIZED POSITIONS
WHICH GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
THEY ARE NOT ALL COMPLETELY
FUNDED BECAUSE THE COUNCIL AND
THE EXECUTIVES HAVE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF SOME VACANCY RATES
BUT IF THEY WERE FULLY FUNDED
AND THE DEPARTMENT WAS FULLY
STAFFED THEN THIS IS WHERE THE
POSITIONS WOULD BE AND YOU
KNOW, GOING OVER THESE AT A
HIGH LEVEL, THE CHIEF OF POLICE
, OF COURSE, THAT IS THE PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE UNIT AND IS A RATHER
LARGE CIVILIAN UNIT.
I THINK IN 2017 THEY WERE TAKING
ABOUT 6200 PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
REQUESTS A YEAR SO RECORDS,
FILES, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY
CIVILIAN SECTIONS.
OFFICE OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
YOU ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH.
ACTUALLY IT IS MORE CIVILIAN
THAN IT IS SWORN.
LEADERSHIP AND ADMINISTRATION,
YOU HAVE EDUCATION DATA CENTER,
HUMAN RESOURCES, ACTUALLY I'M
SORRY, THAT'S WHERE RECORDS
FILES IS. YOU HAVE MORE
ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AND
THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, YOU HAVE
MORE OF THE CIVILIANS.
AS I'VE SAID I'M NOT OWING TO
GO THROUGH THIS COLUMN BY
COLUMN.
I THINK MOST OF IT IS
INTUITIVE.
SPECIAL OPERATIONS YOU HAVE
SORT OF A COMBINATION OF
TRAFFIC AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS.
YOU HAVE MORE OF AN EQUAL SHARE
AND WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL.
ACTUALLY ANGELA PUT THIS
TOGETHER AND I THINK IT IS
SUPER HELPFUL AND WHERE
CIVILIANS ARE AND WHERE THE
SWORN ARE.
SO THIS IS A SLIDE THAT YOU
HAVE SEEN BEFORE IN MY ANNUAL
BUDGET HESITATIONS.
WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS OF
THE SWORN FORCE, HOW THEY ARE
BROKEN OUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE PATROL WHICH
IS THE FIRST 3 CATEGORIES HERE
IT IS JUST UNDER HALF.
48.7%.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE
DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE ABOUT ONE
THIRD, 34.3% THAT RESPOND TO
911 CALLS AND YOU ALSO HAVE
SERGEANTS AND PATROL AND SOME
SPECIALTY UNITS AND PATROL.
THESE ARE YOUR COMMUNITY POLICE
TEAM OR OTHER BIKES OFFICERS
THAT ARE ON THE STREET SO THAT
GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW MANY
ARE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN YOU HAVE NON-PATROL AND
IN THAT SECTION YOU HAVE
EXAMPLES OF INVESTIGATIVE UNITS.
I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING
AT THERE.
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS,
NARCOTICS, SPECIAL THE ROOMS,
ALL OF THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS SECTIONS YOU
MIGHT EXPECT.
SPECIALTY UNITS.
THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT ARE
SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED AND ONE
AREA AND IN THIS AREA YOU HAVE
SWAT, CANINE, ARSON, BOMB, AND
AS I'VE SAID, EACH OF THESE
THAT I'VE POINTED OUT, LATER ON
WE HAVE SPECIFIC DETAIL ON HOW
MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THOSE UNITS
AND HOW MUCH, HOW MANY FTE ARE
IN THOSE UNITS.
WE EVEN HAVE A BUDGET RIGHT DOWN
BY HOW MANY DISCRETIONARY
DOLLARS THOSE UNITS HAVE. WE
CAN DIG INTO THAT TODAY OR YOU
CAN DIG INTO THEM LATER AND ASK
QUESTIONS AT ANOTHER TIME.
JUST TO FINISH THIS, OPERATION
SUPPORT IS TRAINING FOLKS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS
INVOLVED IN TRAINING.
POLICY, LEADERSHIP BEING
COMMAND STAFF AND
ADMINISTRATION.
THAT IS OFFICERS SAY, FOR
INSTANCE, STATIONED IN HUMAN
RESOURCES OR OTHER PLACES.
THIS IS REALLY A STATEMENT OF
POLICY THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS
MAKING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS
SLIDE.
THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS HOW
THEY CHOOSE TO DEDICATE THE
SWORN FORCE AND THIS HAS
EVERYTHING TO DO WITH
PERFORMANCE MEASURES ON THE 911
SIDE. THEY HAVE TO DO WITH CALL
RESPONSE TIMES.
IT HAS TO DO WITH PROACTIVE
CONTACT MADE WITH THE PUBLIC,
TO THE INVESTIGATIVE SIDE WHEN
YOU HAVE CASE CLEARANCE ON
MURDER CASES, CASES , ETC.
THIS IS VERY MUCH A POLICY
STATEMENT AND WHY I PUT THE
SLIDE BEFORE YOU.
>> AS IT RELATES TO THIS BEING
A REFLECTION OF SPD POLICY ON
HOW TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES, ARE
THERE BEST PRACTICES FOR
DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE EMBRACING
COMMUNITY POLICING MODELS?
EVERYONE SAYS THEY ARE A
COMMUNITY POLICING DEPARTMENT
BUT I THINK RATHER OR NOT YOU
REALLY ARE IS ABOUT HOW YOU
SPEND YOUR RESOURCES AND WHAT
YOU HAVE OFFICERS DOING.
SO, I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS
SOMETHING WE COULD COMPARE
THESE PERCENTAGES TO AS IT
RELATES TO HOW A DEPARTMENT
WOULD ALLOCATE RESOURCES IF IT
WAS TRULY DOING COMMUNITY
PLACING.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK
TO YOU ON.
COMMUNITY POLICING IN THE SENSE
THAT OFFICERS WOULD COME INTO
CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC, THERE
ARE METRICS AROUND 911 RESPONSES
IN PROACTIVE TIME BUT I THINK
THE LARGER QUESTION YOU ARE
ASKING ABOUT IS HOW RESOURCES
ARE DIVIDED SO THAT COMMUNITY
POLICING OBJECTIVES CAN BE
ACHIEVED. I WOULD WANT TO GIVE
THAT ONE TO DR. FISHER AT SPD.
>> THAT WORKS FOR ME, THANKS.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MUCH
TIME ON THIS ONE.
THIS IS THE PRECINCT STAFFING
REPORT IN CASE YOU ARE CURIOUS
AS TO HOW THESE FOLKS WERE
BROKEN OUT BY PRECINCT.
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS AS OF THE
LAST REPORT.
IT'S NOT REALLY BUDGET RELATED.
AGAIN JUST DOING SORT OF A DIVE
INTO SPD PERSONNEL.
ALONG WITH THAT, I HAVE BEEN
ASKED TO TALK A BIT ABOUT 911
RESPONSE IN SERVICE CALL DATA
SO I'M THROWING UP THIS SLIDE.
IT IS NOT NECESSARILY BUDGET
RELATED, AGAIN, IT IN THE
OVERALL PICTURE OF EXAMINING A
SPEEDY METRICS, AND IN TERMS OF
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE
FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY
STANDPOINT, THESE ARE GOOD
NUMBERS TO LOOK AT AND AS YOU
CAN SEE IN 2018 THERE WERE
138,000 PROACTIVE CALL COUNTS
AND TIMES THAT OFFICERS MADE
PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
CITIZEN.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN EACH
YEAR THERE ARE 222,009 11
RESPONSES.
THAT IS NOT ON THE SLIDE BUT
THE TIME THAT IT TAKES FOLKS TO
RESPOND TO 911 IS ON THE SLIDE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2019 IT WAS
ABOUT 8.77 MINUTES SO THE
NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT YOU HAVE
ON THE STREET OR IN CARS
AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO 911
CALLS OBVIOUSLY WILL IMPACT
THESE NUMBERS.
THE NUMBERS OF FOLKS THAT YOU
HAVE EITHER ON THE STREET
AROUND BIKE OR ON FEET WILL
IMPACT THE PROACTIVE CALL
COUNTS.
COUNCILMEMBER HER BOLD HERBOLD
MENTIONED YOU HAVE ASKED FOR A
BREAKOUT OF CALLS BY TYPE.
THAT WOULD BE SOME REALLY GOOD
DATA ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE
CONSIDERING THE ROLE THAT
POLICE PLAY IN ANSWERING 911
CALLS.
AS YOU KNOW, NOT ALL 911 CALLS
ARE CRIMES IN PROGRESS.
SOME OF THEM, QUITE A FEW
ACTUALLY ARE ABOUT FOLKS THAT
ARE IN DISTRESS.
ONE NUMBER I WOULD THROW OUT
AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF AN OLD
NUMBER, BUT BACK IN, I BELIEVE
2018, THE CRT TEAM, A TEAM OF
POLICE WITH MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WENT OUT ON 1476
CALLS SO THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF
A SITUATION WHERE A 911 CALL
CAME IN AND MAY HAVE BEEN A
PERSON IN DISTRESS AND THE
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL THAT
WENT ALONG WITH THE TEAM WAS
OBVIOUSLY HELP IN THAT
SITUATION.
SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO
GET THAT DATA FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> TO RESTATE WHAT WE SEE, THE
NUMBER OF CALLS HAVE GONE DOWN
BETWEEN 2016 AND 2019.
THE NUMBER OF HOURS SPENT
ANWERING THOSE HAS GONE DOWN
AND THE RESPONSE TIME HAS GONE
DOWN AS WELL.
WE WANT TO SEE THAT THERE IS A
GOOD RESPONSE TIME AND THIS IS
AN AREA THAT I KNOW COUNCILS IN
THE PAST HAVE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
, REDUCING THE RESPONSE TIMES
NOTING, OF COURSE, THAT THERE
IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
MEDIAN AND AVERAGE RESPONSE
TIMES.
THANK YOU FOR FLAGGING MY
STRONG INTEREST IN DRILLING
DOWN ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
911 CALLS. I THINK WHAT WOULD
BE REALLY HELPFUL BEFORE YOU
GET US THAT DATA IS LET US KNOW
WHAT THE CATEGORIES ARE THAT WE
CAN EXPECT TO SEE SO THAT WE
KNOW THAT IF THERE ARE OTHER
QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING.
>> HERE THE COUNT IS PROACTIVE
SO THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE
OFFICERS ARE ENGAGING WITH
FOLKS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY KEEP TRACK
OF THE ISSUES THEY WERE
ENGAGING ON BUT WE WILL
DEFINITELY ASK THE QUESTION.
>> THE TOP PART OF THE CHART IS
NOT 911 CALLS?
>> NO, THAT IS THE PROACTIVE
CALL EVENT COUNT.
>> SO WE DON'T HAVE A 911 CALL
COUNT?
>> NO, I KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS
TO BE 222,900.
>> I SAID IT SO THAT'S WHY
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT.
>> I'M ALSO INTERESTED TO KNOW
HAS IT GONE DOWN OR GONE UP FOR
THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU ARE
REPORTING IT?
>> I WILL.
I SHOULD CLARIFY THE 2 22,000
THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS JUST
POLICE CALLS.
THE ACTUAL CALL CENTER FOR
MEDICAL AND THE REST OF IT ARE
MORE LIKE 700-- 700,000.
>> ANYONE ELSE?
NO HANDS RAISED.
AND NO NOTES IN THE CHAT.
AND NO TEXTS, SO LET'S GO.
I HAVE 3 DIFFERENT PLACES I'M
LOOKING.
>> SO NOW WE ARE GETTING INTO A
LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE DETAIL.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE
OVERTIME BUDGET AND I'M GOING
TO POINT OUT THAT OVER TIME AS
A WHOLE-- LET ME BACK UP.
$30 MILLION.
AS YOU REMEMBER FROM THE FIRST
SLIDE THAT IS A HUGE CHUNK OF
PERSONNEL EXPENSES. WHEN YOU
TAKE $30 MILLION AND ADD
SALARIES AND BENEFITS YOU ARE AT
82% OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET OF THE
DEPARTMENT.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS A BIG AREA THAT
THE BUDGET OFFICE WATCHES
CLOSELY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL
OVERVIEW, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING
AT OVER TIME YOU HAVE ABOUT 88%
OF OVERTIME SWORN IN 12% IS
CIVILIAN.
THESE ARE ESTIMATES THAT THE
BUDGET OFFICE CAME UP WITH.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET THIS
DATA SO THEY DID THE BEST THEY
COULD TO TRIANGULATE.
THIS IS A SENSE THEY HAVE ABOUT
HOW THIS IS BROKEN DOWN.
THIS IS AN OVERALL PICTURE ON
THE LEFT OF HOW OVERTIME IS
SPENT AND I THINK AS YOU MOVE
DOWN AND LOOK AT THE VARIOUS
CATEGORIES, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THERE IS
A LOT OF OVERTIME SPENT AND
OBVIOUSLY WHAT WILL JUMP RIGHT
OUT AT YOU IS $6.8 MILLION IN
SPORTS AT $3.3 MILLION.
EMPHASIS PATROLS 2.2, NOT HUGE
BUT THESE ARE AREAS WHERE THE
DEPARTMENT SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY
GIVING OFFICERS MOSTLY OVERTIME
TO PROVIDE SECURITY AND
EMPHASIS.
WITH SPORTS I SHOULD NOTE THAT
IS A CATEGORY THAT IS LARGELY
REIMBURSABLE LIKE THE SEAHAWKS
OR THE MARINERS.
WHEN YOU GET TO EVENTS, $6.8
MILLION, THE CITY RECEIVES SOME
MONEY FOR EVENTS THROUGH THE
SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING OFFICE
BUT IT IS NOWHERE NEAR THE COST
THAT THE CITY HAS 4 PATROLLING
EVENTS.
AGAIN IT IS A POLICY CHOICE TO
USE SWORN OFFICERS FOR EVENTS,
FOR TRAFFIC OR SECURITY. IT IS
ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THE PURVIEW
OF THE DEPARTMENT TO DO THINGS
DIFFERENTLY IF THEY CHOSE TO
USE MORE FOR EVENTS AND FEWER
OFFICERS.
I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THEY
ARE CONSTANTLY TAKING A LOOK AT.
BUT AGAIN, SHOWING YOU WHERE A
LOT OF THE EXPENSES ARE, MOST
HERE IN THE TOP CATEGORIES ARE
FAIRLY INTUITIVE. THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU AND $3.4
MILLION THEY SPEND IN OVERTIME,
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS
LARGELY EXTRA TIME WITH ANOTHER
4 HOURS PAST TO TRY TO CLEAR
SOME CASES AND GETS LOGGED INTO
THAT OVERTIME.
THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD BREAKOUT
FOR EACH ONE OF US.
I DO NOT HAVE IT HERE BECAUSE
THE MORE DETAILED TABLE IS LONG
BUT WE DO HAVE IT IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SEE IT.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER THE OUTCOME
OF THE QUESTION.
THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF--
CULTURE HAS RAISED THE ISSUE OF
THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
FLAGGERS AT EVENTS AND I
REMEMBER HE HAD RAISED THAT
THERE HAD BEEN A PROBLEM IN
BASICALLY, EVENTS FROM ALLOWING
PRIVATE SECURITY TO DO THE
FLAGGING.
SO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY THEY
ARE NOT FULLY COMPENSATED WHEN
THERE ARE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT
THE CITY IS PARTIALLY
SUBSIDIZING, COSTS THE CITY
MONEY WHETHER OR NOT IT IS-- A
LEADER COSTS THE CITY MONEY OR
THE EVENT SPONSOR MORE MONEY
BEING THAT CURRENTLY THEY HAVE
TO BE SWORN OFFICERS.
YOU MENTIONED THEY DO NOT HAVE
TO BE SWORN OFFICERS.
WHAT I HAD HEARD IS NOT ONLY DO
THEY-- NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO
BE SWORN OFFICERS BUT THEY
CANNOT ACTUALLY GO THE NON-SPD
ROUTE ALTOGETHER AND HAVE
PRIVATE SECURITY.
THAT IS SOMETHING I'M
INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT MORE
ABOUT.
>> SURE.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE DID
RESEARCH A FEW YEARS BACK AND I
HAVE A MEMO SAYING THERE IS NO
STATE LAW OR SMC THAT REQUIRES
OFFICERS TO DO STREET CLOSURES
OR TRAFFIC CONTROL.
THERE WOULD BE BARGAINING ISSUES
IF THAT BODY OF WORK WAS GIVEN
OVER ENTIRELY TO ANOTHER GROUP
OF EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THERE
WOULD BE A POTENTIAL SKIMMING
ISSUE TAKING WORK AWAY. BUT THE
DEPARTMENT USES WHERE IT CAN,
PEI WAS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
CHEAPER FROM AN OVERTIME RATE.
CERTAINLY THE ISSUES YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT ARE ONES THAT WE
CAN EXPLORE.
I THINK YOU MAY BE MUTED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT I WOULD BE MOST
INTERESTED IN EXPLORING GIVEN
WHAT YOU HAVE JUST NURSED IS
WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE
BARGAINING ISSUES BY THE CITY
CHANGING ITS POLICY AND NOT
USING OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES TO
DO THE FUNCTION.
BUT, ALLOWING FOLKS WHO ARE
HOSTING COMMUNITY EVENTS TO NOT
USE CITY EMPLOYEES AT ALL TO
HIRE SEPARATELY PRIVATE
SECURITY.
>> WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT FOR
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE
ABOUT IT IS REIMBURSABLE, ARE
WE GETTING EVERY DOLLAR BACK
FROM SPORTS EVENTS?
>> THE CITY AUDITOR DID AN AUDIT
A FEW YEARS AGO AND IDENTIFIED
HOW MUCH OF THE COSTS OF THE
CITY ARE REIMBURSED AS IT
RELATES TO THE SPECIAL EVENT
PERMITTING PROCESS.
AS MENTIONED, THE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS ARE SOME OF THOSE
COSTS BUT THERE ARE OTHERS
ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND
THERE ARE DIFFERENT RESULTS IN
OUR SUCCESS DOING FULL COST
RECOVERY DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND
OF EVENT.
THERE IS BETTER COST RECOVERY,
GENERALLY SPEAKING, FOR SPORTS
THAN THERE ARE FOR COMMUNITY
EVENTS.
THE ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY
AUDITOR DID KIND OF IT DOWN
ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF
EVENTS WHERE OUR GOAL IS TO
HAVE COST RECOVERY.
>> IF IT'S OKAY I WANT TO GIVE
ANGELA A CHANCE TO SAY A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THIS AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYTHING I MAY HAVE
MISSPOKEN ABOUT.
AGAIN IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME
SINCE I WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN
OVERTIME.
>> PLEASE, ANGELA.
>> I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB
OF CAPTURING IT.
WE KNOW THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING
EVENTS SPECIFICALLY.
I THINK SPORTS. SPORTING EVENTS
ARE GOVERNED BY A SEPARATE SET
OF RULES AND CONTRACTS AND WE
ARE RECOVERING MORE OF THOSE
COSTS AND DO SEE A GREATER
REIMBURSEMENT PERCENTAGE FOR
THOSE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO
REALLY ADD ON TO THE EVENT PIECE
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER THE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OVERTIME
BUDGET.
>> TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON EVENTS
FOR SPORTS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
WHAT PERCENTAGE WE ARE NOT
GETTING BACK FROM SPORTING
EVENTS AND THE TOTAL COST. THAT
SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE 100%
REIMBURSED.
AND THE 2nd QUESTION THAT I HAD
FOR CENTRAL STAFF OR THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS IN OUR EMPHASIS
PATROL LINE, TO $.248 MILLION.
IS THIS A COMPLETELY NEW ITEM
GIVEN THE NEW EMPHASIS PATROLS
THAT THE MAYOR HAD BEFORE?
IF IT IS NOT COMPLETELY NEW, IF
WE HAD DONE THAT IN THE PAST
PRIOR TO THE MAYOR'S
ANNOUNCEMENT OF EMPHASIS THE
TROLLS HOW MUCH HAS IT
INCREASED OVER THE LAST 2 OR 3
YEARS GIVEN THE RENEWED POLICY
OF THE MAYOR TO DO EMPHASIS
PATROLS?
>> GO AHEAD.
>> WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE
ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT GET A
SPECIFIC APPROPRIATION.
WE DID REDIRECT SOME OF OUR
BUDGET TO THAT LINE ITEM.
EXISTING BUDGET TO THAT LINE
ITEM.
I SHOULD SAY WE DID-- SORRY.
WE DID A SPECIFIC APPROPRIATION
IN THE 2020 BUDGET PROCESS FOR
EMPHASIS PATROLS BUT PRIOR TO
THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING
SPECIFIC.
WE WERE SELF BUDGETED AROUND
1.4 MILLION AND THIS YEAR HAS
INCREASED TO ABOUT $2.2 MILLION.
THAT NUMBER CAN BE FLUID
DEPENDING ON THE OPERATIONAL
NEED FOR EMPHASIS PATROLS BUT
HISTORICALLY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO OPERATE WITHIN THAT BUDGET
MORE OR LESS WITHIN THE
EXISTING BUDGET.
>> SO IT ALMOST DOUBLE?
>> IT WENT UP ABOUT $800,000 IN
2020 SPECIFICALLY.
AS FAR AS SPORTING EVENTS GO I
CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THE
PERCENTAGE OF REIMBURSEMENT.
JUST ONE MORE NOTE ON THAT TOPIC
>> TRAFFIC NEEDS AND AROUND THE
STADIUM AND WHEN YOU HAVE
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
CONGREGATING TO A SPECIFIC
LOCATION, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE
IMPACT OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE WOULD
CONSIDER TO BE KIND OF THAT
WORKING AREA OR THAT STADIUM
AREA.
AND THERE'S RELUCTANCE TO PAY
FOR, SAY, TRAFFIC CONTROL
SERVICES FIVE BLOCKS AWAY, EVEN
THOUGH AS A CITY WE FEEL LIKE
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH
DOWNTOWN ON GAME DAY IS --
WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ON
WHO SHOULD SHOULDER THOSE
COSTS.
>> THANK YOU.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE
NEXT SLIDE, I'M GOING TO MAKE
SURE THERE'S NOBODY ELSE IN THE
CUE.
I WANT TO ALSO -- OH,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
I'VE HAD MANY QUESTIONS AND YOU
HAVE ASKED THEM SO JUST NOT
THAT I'M SITTING HERE IN
SILENCE.
I OFTENTIMES HAVE GOTTEN READY
TO ASK A QUESTION AND YOU HAVE
ASKED IT SO WANTED TO LET THE
RECORD REFLECT.
>> FANTASTIC.
THANK YOU.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, WANT TO NOTE
IT'S MY RECOLLECTION AND, GREG,
YOU CAN CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT
I'M RIGHT, AND DON'T HOLD BACK
AND TELL ME I'M WRONG, THAT IT
IS A PRETTY TYPICAL PRACTICE
THAT EVEN THOUGH WE PASS A
BUDGET WITH A VERY LARGE NUMBER
OF DOLLARS COMMITTED TO
OVERTIME, IT IS PRETTY TYPICAL
PRACTICE THAT WE REVISIT
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO ADD MORE
OVERTIME TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET.
SO GIVEN EVEN THAT OUR BUDGET
IS $30 MILLION FOR OVERTIME FOR
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD
NOT BE SURPRISING IF THERE WAS
A REQUEST OR A NEED TO BACKFILL
OVERTIME DOLLARS THAT THEY HAVE
ALREADY SPENT, BASICALLY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I WOULD
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BY SAYING,
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT FOR
THE LARGE HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE
BEEN WITH THE CITY.
UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, THE SPD
OVERTIME BUDGET WAS THE BUDGET
THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE
DEPARTMENT, WAS INADEQUATE TO
BE ABLE TO COVER THE EXPENSES
AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE
REQUIRED OF THE DEPARTMENT.
WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
THEY HAVE TURNED THAT AROUND A
BIT AND I THINK ANGELA IS
PROBABLY ONE OF THE VERY FEW
BUDGET MANAGERS IN THE HISTORY
OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS, TO
MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT HAD TO COME
TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A
SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST FOR MORE
OVERTIME.
IT'S TRULY A DIFFERENT -- IT'S
A DIFFERENT WORLD WHEN IT COMES
TO OVERTIME THESE DAYS.
AND, IN FACT, COVID IS GOING TO
MAKE IT A VERY DIFFERENT WORLD.
A LOT OF THE OVERTIME THAT YOU
SEE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, AROUND
THINGS LIKE EVENTS, ISN'T BEING
SPEND RIGHT NOW.
MOST OF THE SUMMER EVENTS ARE
JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE NEXT WEEK WHEN THE
EXECUTIVE TRANSMITS ITS
REBALANCED BUDGET SO IT COULD
ADDRESS THE REVENUE SHORTFALLS
FOR COVID IS LIKELY SOME
EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS IN THE
OVERTIME BUDGET BECAUSE SPD IS
NOT HAVING TO DELIVER AS MANY
SERVICES THERE, AND THE COUNCIL
WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REVIEW THAT BUDGET, OF COURSE,
NEXT WEEK.
DON'T AT ALL WANT TO DISAGREE
WITH YOU.
YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ABOUT THE
SUPPLEMENTALS OVER MANY, MANY,
MANY YEARS, GOING BACK DECADES,
ACTUALLY, BUT WITHIN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE
REALLY TURNED IT AROUND.
>> THANK YOU, ANGELA.
>> SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ONTO
THIS NEXT ONE.
THIS IS PART OF A REQUEST THAT
YOU HAD MADE FOR THIS
PRESENTATION AND THE DEPARTMENT
HAS PUT FORWARD THE COST FOR
DEMONSTRATION EQUIPMENT AND
BASICALLY WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK
THAT PICTURE OUT OF THE PAPER,
ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS KOMO
THAT HAD IT AND I ASKED THE
DEPARTMENT TO GIVE ME
EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE
WEARING AND THEN I SAID, I
THINK SHIELDS ARE ALSO USED,
BUT THEY ARE NOT IN THE
PICTURE.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER, AND
WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE LINE BY
LINE IS EACH ITEM THAT THE
OFFICER IS WEARING AND THE
SUBTOTAL FOR THE UNIT COST,
ADDING THE TAX AND THEN THE
2020 COST, AND I'M GUESSING THE
MULTIPURPOSE GEAR, THE UNIFORMS
DOWN BELOW, THAT'S PROBABLY
SOMETHING THAT IS USED ALL THE
TIME, NOT NECESSARILY DISTINCT
TO PRESENTATIONS, BUT I AM
GOING TO HAVE ANGELA TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW EQUIPMENT
-- DEMONSTRATION EQUIPMENT IS
PAID FOR ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I BELIEVE THAT NEW OFFICERS
RECEIVE IT AND THEN HAVE HER
SPEAK TO WHEN THOSE ITEMS WEAR
OUT, HOW THEY ARE REIMBURSED,
OR PAID FOR.
>> THANKS, ANGELA.
GO AHEAD.
>> YEAH.
SO WITH ALL UNIFORM OR STANDARD
UNIFORM EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING
THE DEMONSTRATION EQUIPMENT
THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE, THE
MAJORITY OF THAT IS ISSUED BY
OUR QUARTER MASTER, WHICH IS,
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T
FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM, WE HAVE
A WAREHOUSE, ESSENTIALLY, OF
EQUIPMENT AND THINGS THAT ARE
PURCHASED CENTRALLY, ONE FOR
EFFICIENCY SAKE BUT ALSO JUST
FOR TRACKING INVENTORY AND
STOCK AND ASSET, YOU KNOW, THE
ASSET MANAGEMENT PIECE.
SO AS YOU ARE ON BOARDED AS A
SWORN POLICE DEPARTMENT
EMPLOYEE, YOU ARE ISSUED
EQUIPMENT, SOME OF WHICH IS
LISTED HERE, FOR DEMONSTRATION
PURPOSES OR WHEN YOU ARE
DEPLOYED TO DEMONSTRATIONS OR
CROWD MANAGEMENT INCIDENTS.
IN THE COURSE OF YOUR CAREER AT
SPD, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE
THINGS MAY GET MORE USE THAN
OTHERS, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF
YOUR TIME WITH SPD, IF THAT
EQUIPMENT WEARS OUT OR NEEDS TO
BE REPLACED, WE HAVE A PROCESS
WHEREBY YOU SUBMIT A REQUEST
AUTHORIZATION TO RECEIVE
REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT.
ALL OF THAT IS HANDLED CENTERLY
THROUGH THE QUARTER MASTER SO
WHEN YOU SEE THE PURCHASE
BUDGETS LATER IN THIS
PRESENTATION THERE IS A LINE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT EQUIPMENT
WAREHOUSE.
PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING GOES
THROUGH THAT UNIT.
I MEAN, FROM PRINTER INK TO
PENS AND PAPER AND, YOU KNOW,
NOTEPADS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR KEEPING A LEVEL OF STOCK
THERE, YOU KNOW, IF THE -- WE
ALSO HAVE -- I BELIEVE IT'S A
$500 UNIFORM ALLOWANCE.
SOME ITEMS LIKE THE UNIFORM
PANTS AND SHIRTS HERE, ANYTHING
ON YOUR DUTY BELT, THAT'S
EXPECTED TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF
YOUR INDIVIDUAL UNIFORM
ALLOWANCE, WHICH IS BUILT INTO
THE CONTRACT.
I THINK AS FAR AS -- LET ME SEE
IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I TRY
TO SUGGEST WE GET THROUGH THE
SLIDES THE REST OF THE HOUR AND
THE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE
MATERIALS.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
I DO WANT TO GIVE COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK
HER QUESTION ON SLIDE NINE,
THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I
HAD CUED UP A WHILE AGO BUT DID
NOT SEQUENCE IT CORRECTLY WITH
THE SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE IT.
SO I AM ACTUALLY TRYING TO LOOK
AT SLIDES NINE AND TEN
TOGETHER.
IT SEEMS THAT EACH OFFICER GOES
OUT TO DEMONSTRATION IN ABOUT
$900 WORTH OF PROTECTIVE GEAR.
LOOKS LIKE BASED ON THE SLIDE
TEN, WE SPEND MAYBE AN AVERAGE
OF $30,000 IN CROWD CONTROL AND
I KNOW THIS ISN'T A HUGE
PORTION OF THE BUDGET BUT I DO
WANT TO ENSURE THAT NONE OF THE
CROWD CONTROL INVENTORY THAT WE
HAVE USED THIS YEAR GETS
REPLACED.
THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE BUT I'M
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS
CATEGORY, PARTICULARLY THE
CROWD CONTROL IS BUDGETED AND
HOW MUCH WE SPEND PER
DEMONSTRATION.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS
BUDGET FOR OPERATING EQUIPMENT,
PARTICULARLY CROWD CONTROL
EQUIPMENT, SINCE IT SEEMS LIKE
IT IS PURCHASED AS IT'S USED,
BUT THERE HAS TO BE A BUDGET
FOR IT.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION,
THAT IS, WHERE DOES THE CROWD
CONTROL EQUIPMENT COME FROM?
DOES THAT ALSO COME FROM THE
QUARTER MASTERS WAREHOUSE AND
IF SO, WHERE DID THE QUARTER
MASTER.
GET IT?
>>
>> THE BIG PICTURE, JUST SO WE
ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THIS
$67,000 IS WHAT IS NEEDED TO
EQUIP THE NEW FOLKS THAT ARE
COMING INTO THE DEPARTMENT, AND
THEN AS EQUIPMENT WEARS OUT,
THAT'S WHAT COMES FROM THE
QUARTER MASTER LINE THAT ANGELA
IS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE WILL
GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
AND THEN I'LL FLIP IT TO THE
NEXT SLIDE.
DID I SAY ANYTHING WRONG THERE,
ANGELA?
>> NO, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, THE ONE
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THESE ARE THE COSTS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT INCURS FOR BUYING
THE CROWD CONTROL DEVICES.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE AMOUNT
THAT WAS SPENT IN 2017, 2018
AND 2019 AND, OF COURSE, THE
BULLET POINTS SHOW WHAT WAS
PURCHASED.
THE SECOND BUT POINT TALKS
ABOUT THE WHITE SMOKE GRENADES,
THE DEVICES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
AN R11 LAUNCHER IS BUT I'M
GUESSING MAYBE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD OR OTHERS DO.
BLAST BALLS, THE NOISE SPONGE,
MUNITIONS GAS ROUNDS.
THESE ITEMS ARE REPLACED USING
OPERATING FUNDS AS THEY EXPIRE.
WE ARE GOING SO SEE A LIST OF
WHERE THOSE BUDGETS ARE.
HEY ARE NOT PARTICULARL
LARGE, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS
NOT A PARTICULARLY LARGE
NUMBER.
WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTION
ABOUT THE COST OF THE
DEMONSTRATIONS, SPD PROVIDED ME
WITH SOME COSTS BUT IT WAS A
VERY LOW NUMBER AND DIDN'T
CAPTURE THE OVERTIME THAT
OFFICERS ARE EXPENDING OR THAT
THE DEPARTMENT IS EXPENDING ON
OFFICERS FOR THE DEMONSTRATIONS
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE VERY
LARGEST PART OF THE COSTS.
SO I DIDN'T PUT A NUMBER HERE
YET BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT
STILL NEEDS TO DETERMINE WHEN
THE PAYROLL CYCLE ENDS, HOW
MUCH THEY HAVE SPENT ON
OVERTIME FOR THESE
DEMONSTRATIONS AND THEN PROVIDE
THAT TO THE COUNCIL.
SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'M
MISSING HERE.
OH, OF COURSE, HERE'S THE LAST
BULLET SAYS THAT BASED ON AN
AVERAGE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE
TABLE ABOVE, IF THE DEPARTMENT
STOPPED BUYING THAT CROWD
CONTROL DEVICES, THEY WOULD
SAVE CROWD CONTROL UP AND THEY
WOULD SAVE $40,000 PER YEAR ON
AVERAGE.
>> FINAL POINT.
WHERE DOES THIS EQUIPMENT COME
FROM?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE
DEPARTMENT BUYS IT FROM.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, THAT IS
ONE OF THE SUBMITTED QUESTIONS
THAT WE SENT TO THE EXECUTIVE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO NOW THIS PARTICULAR TABLE
AND THE NEXT SEVERAL TABLES
START TO GET INTO SOME FISCAL
DETAIL, AND SO THE AMOUNT OF
TIME THAT YOU WANT ME TO SPEND
ON THESE, I WILL FOLLOW YOUR
LEAD.
BUT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL HERE,
THIS IS THE INNER FUND BILLING.
THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER
ABOUT HOW MUCH IS SPENT FOR
TECHNOLOGY.
THE ITD IS THE SEATTLE I.T.
ALLOCATION, AND IT'S $26
MILLION.
THIS IS WHAT SEATTLE I.T.
CHARGES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
THROUGH THE INNER FUND BILLING
CYCLE TO PROVIDE I.T.
SERVICES, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS
ONE OF THE LARGER NUMBERS HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE FLEET'S
MAINTENANCE, THE FLEET'S FUEL,
THE FLEET'S REPLACEMENT, ALL
THIS COMES TO THAT $57 MILLION
NUMBER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
EARLIER.
I'M GOING TO MOVE ALONG UNLESS
SOMEBODY YELLS AT ME TO STOP.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THIS IS
THE BUDGET THAT IS USED FOR
VARIOUS KINDS OF CONTRACTS THAT
THE DEPARTMENT HAS, THE --
PROBABLY THE VERY BIGGEST ONE
THAT YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP IS
FOR PHOTO ENFORCEMENT, THE 3.3
MILLION IS THE BUDGET THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS FOR PAYING
AMERICAN TRAFFIC SYSTEMS, WHICH
IS THE VENDOR FOR OUR CAMERAS.
YOU CAN SEE ALONG THE LINE
ITEMS THAT THERE'S, FOR
INSTANCE, AN ITEM FOR THE
MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS THAT
ARE ON THE CRT TEAMS.
THERE'S FIVE OF THEM NOW.
AND THAT COSTS 44,700,000.
THEY ARE CONTRACTED OUT WITH A
COMMUNITY BUILDING
ORGANIZATION.
AS YOU MOVE DOWN THIS LIST YOU
WILL SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
KIND OF CONTRACTS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS, INCLUDING ITS
VET SERVICES.
AGAIN, IT COMES TO NOT A LOT OF
MONEY OVERALL.
ABOUT $6 MILLION SUBTOTAL AND,
ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SURE BETWEEN
THE SUBTOTAL AND THE ADOPTED
BUDGET, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
OH, THE SUBTOTAL IS THE TOTAL
OF THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS AND
THERE'S PROBABLY A
MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY, AND
MAYBE THAT'S THE 239.
ANYTHING WRONG I SAID THERE,
ANGELA?
>> SO THE DELTA THERE IS -- I
MEAN, YEARS OF INCREMENTAL
BUDGETING ESSENTIALLY CREATES
-- IT CREATES A BUDGET THAT MAY
OR MAY NOT BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO
SPECIFIC ITEMS.
SO IN THIS CASE WHAT WE HAVE
DONE IS CALLED OUT THE SPECIFIC
ITEMS THAT ARE KNOWN, THAT
COMPRISE -- OR WENT INTO THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THAT -- THE
ADOPTED BUDGET IS $6 MILLION.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW -- WE
CAN SAY CLEARLY THESE ARE THE
-- YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE $5.8
MILLION OF THAT 6 MILLION.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WERE
BUDGETED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT
PURPOSE.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS
THAT WE -- THAT HIT AGAINST
THIS TO INCLUDE THE MEDICAL
TESTING AND PREHIRING TESTS.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HIT
AGAINST THIS ACCOUNT THAT DON'T
NECESSARILY HAVE A SPECIFIC
APPROPRIATION FOR.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BEEN PAST
PRACTICE OR HISTORICALLY
EXPENSES HIT AGAINST THIS FUND
BUT WE WANTED TO CALL OUT
SPECIFICALLY THE ITEMS THAT WE
COULD.
THE SPECIFIC BUDGET
APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE COULD
THAT FOLLOWS THIS ACCOUNT.
>> THE BIGGER ONES, YEAH.
>> SO I'M GOING TO KEEP MOVING
THROUGH.
WE GOT A LOT OF THESE.
TRAVEL AND TRAINING, THIS IS A
BREAKOUT BY BUREAU OF THE
DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT ON
TRAVEL AND TRAINING, AND YOU
HAVE HERE EVERYTHING FROM
CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT
OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO
FULFILL, SAY, LIKE MOTORCYCLE
CERTIFICATION FOR THE
MOTORCYCLE TRAFFIC OFFICERS,
ALL THE WAY TO CONFERENCES THAT
CIVILIANS MIGHT ATTEND.
THIS IS JUST THE BREAKOUT FOR A
2,000 PERSON DEPARTMNT OF THE
TRAVEL AND TRAINING MONEY,
ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS, 1.1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WE HAVE
A REQUIREMENT TO REPORT WHEN
SOMEONE PAYS FOR US TO DO
TRAVEL OR CONFERENCES AND WHAT
I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THAT THIS
BUDGET MIGHT NOT REFLECT MAYBE
PORTIONS OF TRAINING THAT ARE
BEING PAID FOR BY OTHER
ENTITIES.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TRAVEL OR
TRAINING TRIPS THAT ARE NOT
REFLECTED IN WHAT THE CITY IS
PAYING FOR?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION.
MY INITIAL RESPONSE IS THERE
MIGHT BE A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS
ISSUE THERE.
I WOULD DOUBT IT BUT I'LL
DOUBLE-CHECK WITH THE FINANCE
MANAGER, ASK ANGELA.
>> YEAH, I CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME -- SOME OF OUR
TRAVEL TRAINING IS REIMBURSED
BY ORGANIZE -- IF THERE'S A
CONFERENE THAT ONE OF OUR
EMPLOYEES IS ASKED TO PRESENT
AT, THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE
WE DO ACCEPT A REIMBURSEMENT
FOR THAT.
HOWEVER, THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT
HISTORICALLY REQUESTED AN
APPROPRIATION TO ACCEPT THAT
REVENUE TO SPD.
TYPICALLY THAT HAS JUST GONE TO
THE GENERAL FUND.
SO ANY REVENUE WE ARE BRINGING
IN FOR THAT PURPOSE IS GOING TO
THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT TO SPD
SPECIFICALLY.
>> THAT WOULD BE A SERVICE THAT
THE DEPARTMENT WAS PROVIDING.
IT'S NOT AS THOUGH TASER IS
PAYING FOR A BUNCH OF FOLKS TO
GO TO A CONFERENCE IN HAWAII.
THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
THERE IS SOME SORT OF EXCHANGE
THERE.
IT IS NOT FREE TRAINING BEING
OFFERED.
IT'S REALLY IN THOSE CASES
WHERE WE ARE PRESENTING OR
PROVIDING -- YOU KNOW,
PROVIDING SOME SORT OF SERVICE.
>> AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE
CONCERN THAT'S BEEN RAISED
ABOUT SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
USING OUR OFFICERS OR SENDING
OUR OFFICERS TO PLACES LIKE
ISRAEL TO RECEIVE TRAINING ON
POLICE TECHNIQUES, IF IT'S NOT
REFLECTED IN THE 2020
ALLOCATION, WHERE WOULD WE SEE
THAT KIND OF LINE ITEM?
>> IF THERE'S AN EXPENSE ALONG
THOSE LINES, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD
HIT AGAINST OUR BUDGET HERE.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE
BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS, NOT
NECESSARILY SPECIFIC
EXPENDITURES WITHIN EACH OF
THOSE GROUPINGS.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
WOULD SHOW UP ON AN EXPENSE
REPORT.
>> BUT I THINK THE LARGER
POINT, THOUGH, IS THAT IF THERE
WAS A TRIP TO ISRAEL THAT WAS
PAID FOR, IT WOULD NEED TO
COME OUT OF THAT $1.08 MILLION
BUDGET UNLESS THE DEPARTMENT
HAD SOME SAVINGS ELSEWHERE
WHERE THEY COULD PAY FOR IT.
THIS IS TRADITIONALLY AND
NORMALLY WHERE THEY WOULD PAY
FOR IT AND THIS IS THE BUDGET
THAT WOULD PAY FOR IT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH.
>> SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS A
PURCHASE SLIDE AND WHAT YOU'RE
LOOKING AT HERE IS BY BUREAU,
HOW MUCH MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR
EACH SECTION, AND I GUESS WHAT
I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT IT IS
-- WELL, $5 MILLION SEEMS LIKE
A LOT, AND IT IS A LOT.
I'M NOT GOING TO DRAW JUDGMENT
ON THE 5 MILLION.
WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE DETAIL
LEVEL, YOU WILL SEE THAT, FOR
INSTANCE, HERE WEST PRECINCT
HAS $57,000 OF DISCRETIONARY
PURCHASE AUTHORITY AND AS WE
WERE LOOKING EARLIER AT THE
SLIDE FOR THE SWORN, THEY HAVE,
YOU KNOW, JUST UNDER A COUPLE
HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, IN
THAT SECTION.
SO THESE ARE LARGE DOLLAR
AMOUNTS, BUT FOR A DEPARTMENT
WITH 2,000 PEOPLE, THEY ARE NOT
NECESSARILY -- WELL, THE
DEPARTMENT IS -- DOES THE BEST
IT C█AN, AT LEAST MY HISTORY, T
TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS
MANAGING THE DISCRETIONARY
PURCHASES APPROPRIATELY AND
EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY, I
WOULD SAY.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA OR CHAIR
HERBOLD, WHOEVER IS OPERATING
HERE.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE MY HAND
BEING RAISED.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
OVER THE COURSE OF THIS
PRESENTATION.
THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
SOME OF MY QUESTIONS DO HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THE POLICIES RATHER
THAN THE DOLLARS AND I'M
WONDERING IF WE CAN HAVE
ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE
WE CAN GO DEEP INTO THESE
DETAILS AGAIN AND I CAN ALSO
FOLLOW UP WITH GREG, ANGELA AND
KARA OFF-LINE AS WELL.
BUT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PAGES
OF QUESTIONS, SOME OF THEM HAVE
BEEN ANSWERED BY -- OR ASKED BY
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
WANTED TO FLAG THAT A REQUEST
TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON
THESE ITEMS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT
UP AND I'M SORRY IF YOU HAVEN'T
HAD THE CHANCE TO ASK
QUESTIONS.
WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE YOU GET
THOSE IN BEFORE THE
PRESENTATION IS OVER BUT AS IT
RELATES TO POLICY WHEN WE WRAP
UP WITH THIS PRESENTATION I
WILL PROVIDE AN OUTLINE OF THE
NEXT STEPS AS TO RELATES TO THE
INQUEST INTO SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET AND POLICY
PRACTICES.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
SO THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS, I AM
NOT GOING TO -- NEXT TWO SLIDES
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT
ON.
THESE ARE YOUR BUDGET ADDS FOR
THE 2020 BUDGET AND I JUST PUT
THESE SLIDES IN SO THAT AS YOU
LOOK BACK AT THIS PRESENTATION,
IF YOU HAD ANY CURIOSITY ABOUT
WHAT GOT ADDED OR TAKEN AWAY
FROM THE BUDGET, THESE ARE
REPRESENTED IN SLIDES 15 AND
16.
AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, I'LL GO
BACK TO 15 HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXPANSION OF
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
PROGRAM.
THERE WAS $1.2 MILLION ADDED
IN -- YOU'VE GOT THE CIVILIAN
INVESTIGATOR IN OPA FOR
148,000.
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THESE
ADDS.
MOST OF YOU WHO WERE HERE
DURING THE LAST SESSION HAD
SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THEM.
SO I WON'T SUMMARIZE IT UNLESS
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 15
AND 16.
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IT WAS
MY RECOLLECTION THAT THE ITEM
-- THE RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION ITEM, THAT WHEREAS
THERE WAS AN ADD IN THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THAT ITEM,
I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL ACTION
REDUCED THAT.
SO THIS LOOKS LIKE A $1.28
MILLION ADD, AND MY
RECOLLECTION IS THERE WAS A
LINE ITEM FOR RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION AND WE ACTUALLY
REDUCED THE AMOUNT FOR THAT
ITEM.
>> THAT IS CORRECT,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
IT WAS ABOUT 1.6 MILLION, AND
THE COUNCIL TOOK A DETAILED
LOOK AT THE RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION INITIATIVE AND TOOK
SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND OR A
FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND OUT OF
THAT AND REDUCED IT TO 1.28
MILLION.
SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE
MADE HAD TO DO WITH THE -- HOW
FOLKS PAY FOR TESTS, FOR
INSTANCE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES.
THE EXECUTIVE HAD ASSUMED THAT
THE TESTING FEE WOULD BE PAID
BY THE DEPARTMENT AND THE
COUNCIL ASKED THE EXECUTIVE TO
DEVELOP A SLIDING SCALE.
THOSE WHO COULD AFFORD TO PAY
THE FEE WOULD, THOSE WHO
WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T, AND FOUND
SOME EFFICIENCY AND MADE A CUT
THERE.
THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO SPREAD
OUT THE SERGEANT TRAINING OVER
TWO YEARS.
THESE CHANGES RESULTED IN A
REDUCTION TO THAT INITIATIVE
FROM THE 1.6 TO THE 1.28.
>> AND SO, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS,
I SEE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
SO THE 7.2 MILLION IN THE
ADOPTED BUDGET AS AN ADDITION
IS NOT -- IT'S NOT -- THESE
AREN'T COUNCIL ADDS, THESE ARE
THE ADDS OVER THE 2019 BUDGET,
SOME OF THEM MAY BE COUNCIL
ADDS BUT IT'S NOT $7.2 MILLION
IN COUNSEL ADDS?
>> CORRECT.
WHEN I SAID YOU WERE FAMILIAR,
I JUST MEAN THESE WERE
DISCUSSED IN-DEPTH IN THE
COUNCIL BUDGET SESSION.
>> PERFECT.
>> BY ALL OF YOU.
>> SORRY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES
INTO THE FUTURE POLICY HEARING
THAT COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS
REQUESTED OR IF IT WOULD BE
RELEVANT TO THIS BUT I THINK
I'LL ASK IT NOW.
IN LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICER ADD OF THE
6FTEs, DO WE KNOW IF THAT RATE
OF LIKE THE 1.21 MILLION FOR
SIX POSITIONS OF COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICERS, WOULD THAT BE
THE SCALABLE GOING RATE OR IS
THERE A DIMINISHING COST AS --
IF WE WERE TO ADD MORE PEOPLE
INTO THAT PROGRAM, OR IS THAT
WHAT IT WOULD BE -- ABOUT WHAT
IT WOULD BE TO HIRE SIX
ADDITIONAL FTEs TO GO FORWARD
IN GROUPS OF SIX?
>> I THINK THAT NUMBER IS A
LOADED NUMBER AND MAY ALSO BE
PHASED DEPENDING ON WHEN THE
DEPARTMENT THOUGHT THEY WOULD
HIRE THEM.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A LOADED
NUMBER, GREG?
>> I MEAN THAT IT PROBABLY
INCLUDES SOME INITIAL EQUIPMENT
AND IT PROBABLY PHASES THE --
WELL, LET ME JUST START OVER,
ANGELA.
>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS
GOING TO BE THE SETUP COSTS.
SO FOR ANY NEW EMPLOYEE, WE
LOAD INTO THE BUDGET ONE-TIME
COSTS FOR COMPUTERS AND A DESK
CHAIR AND SOME -- ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO GET
SOMEBODY UP AND RUNNING.
IN FUTURE YEARS THE BUDGET IS
ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY AS THAT IS
A ONE-TIME APPROPRIATION.
SO THAT 1.2 MILLION IS GOING TO
BE ON THE HIGH END.
IT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD
NUMBER IF YOU'RE WANTING TO,
SAY, ESTIMATE ADDING CSOs,
ADDITIONAL CSOs IN 2021.
BUT IF -- YEAH.
I JUST RECOMMEND REACHING OUT
TO US.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MODEL SOME
OF THAT OUT OR COST SOME OF
THAT OUT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED
IN ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT THE
ONE-TIME AND ONGOING COSTS
WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE EASY FOR US TO
úDO.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE IT,
ANGELA.
SO JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF
THIS CONVERSATION, THAT NUMBER
IS PROBABLY A LITTLE HIGHER
THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE IF THERE
WAS A SIGNIFICANT SCALING OF
THAT PROGRAM?
IS THAT AN ACCURATE WAY TO
PHRASE IT?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> SO NOW THE LAST FEW SLIDES
ARE THE FISCAL DETAIL AND WHAT
YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THERE'S
GOING TO BE THREE SLIDES, IS A
BREAKOUT OF THE UNIT, SO HERE
YOU'VE GOT -- LET'S JUST GRAB
PATROL OPERATIONS HERE.
YOU'VE GOT PATROL OPERATIONS
AND WITHIN PATROL OPERATIONS
YOU HAVE ALL THE VARIOUS UNITS
AND YOU HAVE HOW MUCH IS SPENT
IN THOSE UNITS AND HOW MUCH --
HOW MANY FTEs ARE IN THOSE
UNITS AND SO AS YOU GO SCROLL
THROUGH THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO
FIND EVERY UNIT IN SPD AND HOW
MUCH THEY SPEND AND HOW MANY
PEOPLE THERE ARE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO GRAB A
SPECIFIC LINE ITEM, LET'S SAY
S.W.A.T.
HERE, THE S.W.A.T.
TEAM SPENDS ABOUT $5.5 MILLION
A YEAR AND THEY HAVE 29 FTE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ADOPTED
BUDGET AND YOU LOOK AT THAT
$5.5 MILLION, AS WE HAVE
DISCUSSED, THE MAJORITY OF THAT
IS GOING TO BE A LARGE PIECE OF
THAT IS GOING TO BE PERSONNEL
AND, OF COURSE, AS YOU SEE THE
29 FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH
THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A
LARGE PIECE OF THE BUDGET.
SO AS YOU GO THROUGH EACH ONE
OF THESE, YOU CAN SEE THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND YOU CAN
SEE THE DOLLARS AND THAT GIVES
YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IS
SPENT PER SECTION AND ADDS TO
THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION AT THE
END.
AND, AGAIN, THESE TABLES ARE
ALL DESIGNED TO GIVE YOU DETAIL
THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO
THAT FIRST SLIDE WHICH I'M
GOING TO QUICKLY SCROLL BACK TO
HERE, WHERE YOU HAD ALL THE
VARIOUS CATEGORIES,
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WE HAVE
GONE THROUGH, TRAVEL AND
TRAINING, DISCRETIONARY BUDGET,
YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THAT STUFF
IN ALL OF THESE TABLES AND THEN
THE LAST TABLES ARE JUST, AS I
SAID, SORT OF A CATCHALL FOR
UNIT BY UNIT, HOW MUCH THEY
SPEND.
AND THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT WAS REALLY AN INCREDIBLE,
USEFUL PRESENTATION AS AN OFF
POINT.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, YES.
>> THANK YOU.
YEAH, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR
PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION
TOGETHER.
IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE
THESE BREAKDOWNS OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
AND WANTED TO ZERO IN ON THIS
SLIDE 18, WHICH HAS A $13
MILLION TOTAL FOR HOMELAND
SECURITY.
CAN YOU BREAK THAT OUT IN ANY
MORE DETAIL OR PROVIDE ANY
INFORMATION ON THE 13 MILLION
FOR HOMELAND SECURITY?
>> I'LL SECOND THAT REQUEST.
>> AND HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING
AT.
SO I WANT TO DEMILITARIZE THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE
IT'S STARTING TO BREAK OUT WHAT
THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT MEAN, AND
THERE ARE SOME LINE ITEMS THAT
POP OUT AS BEING MORE
MILITARISTIC AND THE DOLLAR
FIGURES AREN'T AS HIGH AS IN
SOME OF THOSE LINE ITEMS, AND
SO I WANT TO PEEL BACK ANOTHER
LAYER TO SEE WHERE WE MIGHT BE
ABLE TO FIND SOME CEILINGS
THERE.
SO THE HOMELAND SECURITY NUMBER
POPPED OUT BECAUSE IT WAS A
LARGER NUMBER AND HAD A TITLE
THAT SEEMED SUSPECT.
>> AND I THINK, GIVEN THERE'S
13 EMPLOYEES THERE AND THE
DOLLAR TOTAL, THAT TELLS YOU
THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON
THERE THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, GIVEN
THE RATIO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
OF 75% PERSONNEL COSTS AND 85%
WHEN YOU THROW IN OVERTIME,
PROBABLY SOMETHING ELSE GOING
ON THERE, AND THAT'S A
SITUATION WHERE IF
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE INDIVIDUAL
QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE LINE
ITEMS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
PASS THEM ON TO US AND WE WILL
GET YOU INFORMATION.
>> YEAH, YOU COMPARE THAT LINE
ITEM 13000000 TO 13 PEOPLE TO
THE ONE RIGHT BELOW IT ON
PARKING ENFORCEMENT, ABOUT 13
MILLION PEOPLE, ONE -- ABOUT
$13 MILLION AND 120 PEOPLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, LINE
ITEM JUST ABOVE HARBOR PATROL
WHICH IS A NONMILITARY USE OF
OUR FORCE 30 PEOPLE FOR $5
MILLION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW,
NEARLY -- THE HOMELAND SECURITY
TOTAL IS NEARLY TRIPLE FOR HALF
THE STAFF.
>> ANGELA, DO YOU WRITE OFF NO
-- SHOULD WE GET INFORMATION
LATER ON HOMELAND SECURITY?
WOULD THAT BE BEST?
>> I CAN ACTUALLY PROBABLY
ADDRESS IT RIGHT NOW, IF WE
HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
SO THE SPECIAL OPERATION
CENTER, SOC, IS EMBEDDED IN
THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
COORDINATING ALL OF OUR LARGE-
SCALE EVENTS AND SO I WOULD
LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT
FOR YOU AND I CAN BREAK THAT
OUT INTO -- THAT BUDGET OUT
INTO THE SPECIFIC ACCOUNTS.
MY SUSPICION IS THAT THAT IS
THE EVENT OVERTIME, SO 10.4
MILLION IS -- SORRY, I'M
LOOKING NOW.
10.4MILLION OF THAT 13 MILLION
IS FOR EVENT OVERTIME, EITHER
-- YOU SAW THAT BROKEN OUT IN
THE OVERTIME ALLOCATIONS ON --
I DON'T RECALL WHAT SLIDE, BUT
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY FOR
PERSONNEL OR -- IT'S
SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT EVENT
OVERTIME.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> YEAH.
>> I'M SORRY.
THAT ISN'T CLEAR TO ME.
WHAT EVENT OVERTIME IS HOMELAND
SECURITY RESPONSIBLE FOR?
I'M LOSING THE THREAD HERE.
>> YEAH.
SO, GREG, DO YOU MIND JUMPING
TO THAT OVERTIME SLIDE?
>> AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU COULD GET BACK TO US ON.
>> YES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EVENTS, I
THINK IT'S TEN EVENTS, EVENTS
SEATTLE CENTER, SPORTS, UNUSUAL
OCCURRENCES, IF YOU ADD IT UP,
ALL OF THAT BUDGET THERE, GIVE
OR TAKE A FEW DOLLARS IT'S
GOING TO BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 10
MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING -- ALL OF THE BUDGET FOR
THAT IS ACTUALLY LOADED INTO
THE HOMELAND SECURITY PROJECT.
>> I'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS BUT --
>> MR. STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL WAIT FOR COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA TO OUTLINE HER NEXT
STEPS.
NO?
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> OH, I MEAN, I JUST HAVE A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POLICY-
RELATED QUESTIONS AS TO HOW WE
ENGAGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY, HOW WE ARE
INFORMATION SHARING, WHAT
GRANTS WE ARE ACCEPTING, WHAT
-- IF WE HAVE -- WHY EVENTS
WOULD BE HOUSED UNDER
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY.
I JUST NEED QUITE A BIT MORE
INFORMATION ON THIS TOPIC.
>> HERBOLD, YES.
>> IT MAY BE -- I CAN WORK WITH
THE CHAIR AND -- BOTH CHAIRS OF
THE BUDGET CHAIR AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD TO SEE
HOW BEST TO GET THAT
INFORMATION TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR AREA, IT
MIGHT BE THAT THE BEST WAY TO
HANDLE THAT WOULD BE TO HAVE A
BRIEFING FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
WE WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
MAKE SURE THAT ALL YOUR
QUESTIONS GET ANSWERED.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
CHAIR MOSQUEDA, YOU WANT TO
TAKE IT AWAY NOW, BRING US
HOME?
>> SURE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
OKAY.
HEARING NONE, THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR
COORDINATING TO HAVE THAT
PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, KARA, AND ANGELA AND
GREG.
GREG, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING
TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION.
I THINK THAT WITHIN THESE
SLIDES IT'S GOING TO BE
IMPORTANT FOR US TO PULL OUT
THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO
BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING RELATED
TO HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING ON
TANKS OR ARMORED VEHICLES IN
OUR STREETS, HOW MUCH ARE WE
SPENDING RELATED TO THIS
HOMELAND SECURITY QUESTION AND
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDS FROM
THAT REGARD.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT
PERHAPS DON'T FALL DIRECTLY
WITHIN SPD'S BUDGET AS 2020 WAS
ALLOCATED BUT ARE SPECIFIC TO
THE RESPONSE FROM THE LAST TWO
WEEKS, HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT
ARRESTING PEOPLE AND JAILING
PEOPLE OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS
AS WE WAITED FOR THEM TO EITHER
MAKE BAIL OR HAVE THEIR
HEARING.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF
QUESTIONS I THINK WITHIN THESE
SLIDES.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS BASE
LINE, WE CAN HAVE A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE NEXT
QUESTIONS CAN BE DIRECTED SO,
COLLEAGUES, I APPRECIATE THAT,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, AS
ALWAYS YOUR DETAILED
ORIENTEDNESS GOT US TO THIS
LEVEL WHICH I THINK IS
IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
BUT REALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE
THANKS DOES NEED TO GO TO
CENTRAL STAFFER GREG DOSS AND
THE TEAM HE'S PULLED TOGETHER
FROM THE EXECUTIVE TO GET US
HERE.
SO THANKS FOR THE THANKS BUT
I'M GOING TO PASS IT ON.
>> PASSING ON THE THANKS.
AGAIN, ECHOING OUR
APPRECIATION, WE KNOW YOU HAVE
BEEN BUSY AS WELL RESPONDING TO
EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED OVER
THE LAST TWO WEEKS, SO THANK
YOU FOR PULLING THIS TOGETHER,
REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
THANKS, GREG.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND YOUR TEAM.
COLLEAGUES, IN TERMS OF NEXT
STEPS, WE WILL BE SHARING WITH
YOU SORT OF A MATRIX FOR US TO
CONTINUE THIS INQUISITION INTO
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
BUDGET.
NEXT WEDNESDAY WE HOPE TO HAVE
A CATEGORY ON OUR AGENDA CALLED
UNDERSTANDING OTHER CITIES'
EXPENSES SO WE CAN BETTER
UNDERSTAND THE BUDGETS OF OTHER
CITIES, HIGHLIGHT AND HEAR FROM
CITIES THAT HAVE MOVED OR ARE
MOVING TO MORE COMMUNITY BASED
POLICING STRATEGIES.
ON THE 24th WE HOPE TO HAVE AN
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT TALKS
ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SEATTLE'S
POSITION ON CRIME, POLICING
INEQUITY, DEVELOPING AN
UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORICAL
CONTEXT AND UNDERSTANDING
SEATTLE'S CRIME AND CRIME
RESPONSE NUMBERS, SOME OF THAT
HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TODAY.
AND THEN ON JULY 1st BUILDING
COMMUNITY SAFETY PROPOSAL,
HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY
CONVERSATION THAT'S ONGOING
RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHERE WE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE OUR CITY BUDGET
PRIORITIES GO FOR SPD
RECOGNIZING THAT THIS SHORT-
TERM CONVERSATION MUST FILTER
INTO A LONGER-TERM
CONVERSATION.
THESE QUESTIONS AND SUMMARY
CONVERSATIONS WILL BE DONE
THROUGH THE BUDGETING LENS.
THIS IS THE SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE, SO WE DO ASK PEOPLE
TO THINK ABOUT THE REAL
QUESTION IN FRONT OF US AS IT
RELATES TO FUNDING, REDUCING
FUNDING, DEFUNDING AREAS,
WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE
ITEMS ALLOCATED TO?
WE WILL BE HEARING FROM
COMMUNITY PARTNERS ABOUT SOME
SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE
WILL BE WORKING WITH CHAIR
HERBOLD AS CHAIR OF PUBLIC
SAFETY ON THE POLICY-RELATED
QUESTIONS SO THAT OUR BUDGET
CAN DIRECT THOSE POLICY CHANGES
THAT WE MAY WANT TO SEE.
THIS IS, I THINK, THE BEGINNING
OF A PROCESS THAT WILL LEAD TO
MORE CONVERSATIONS AND MORE
DIRECTIVE IN THE BUDGET FOR
'21, '22 WHICH WE WILL HAVE
SOON IN SEPTEMBER.
FOUR TO SIX WEEKS AS US TEEING
UP FOR POSSIBLE STRATEGIES FOR
INVESTMENT AND DEINVESTMENT SO
WE CAN MAKE LONGER-TERM
INVESTMENTS IN THE 21/22
BUDGET.
>> I THINK THAT SOUNDS
FANTASTIC.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER
CONVERSATION, PERHAPS OFF-LINE
UNLESS OUR BUDGET GURUS HAVE AN
IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO IT.
BUT I'M VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW
WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO DO
BUDGETING FROM A ZERO-BASED
BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE AND IF
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE
AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE
WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT,
BASICALLY GOING THROUGH EACH
LINE ITEM AND LOOKING AT WHAT
THE NEEDS ARE, LOOKING AT WHAT
THE VALUES OF THE CITY ARE FOR
THAT NEED, ASSUMING THAT WE ARE
STARTING FROM ZERO.
>> THAT'S A GREAT ADDITION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THEN COUNCIL COLLEAGUES,
THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION
IS THESE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE, WE DEFINITELY
WANT TO CAPTURE THOSE FOR
CENTRAL STAFF, AND I THINK THE
SOONER THAT YOU CAN SEND THOSE
OVER, THE BETTER.
BUT THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION
HAS BEEN REVEALING, PROVIDED US
A NEW LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE
HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.
GREG, THAT WAS YOUR COMMENT
EARLIER AND I THINK THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY TRUE SO WE WILL LOOK
FORWARD TO HEARING MORE FROM
FOLKS AS THEY ANALYZE THOSE
SLIDES THAT WERE PROVIDED.
THIS IS MY DAUGHTER.
SO WITH THAT, COUNCIL,
COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING TO
ADJOURN TODAY'S MEETING UNLESS
THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE
GOOD OF THE ORDER.
OKAY.
I'M HEARING NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS.
JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR NEXT
MEETING IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE
17th.
OUR FIRST SESSION WILL BE AT
10:00 A.M., WE WILL BE
DISCUSSING REVENUE ORDINANCE
AND POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS AND
OTHER REVENUE STRATEGIES,
POTENTIALLY OUR SECOND SESSION
WILL BE AT 2:00 P.M.
WHERE WE WILL HEAR AN OVERVIEW
OF THE 2020 REBALANCING BUDGET
ASSUMING THAT WE DO GET THAT
FROM THE CITY'S BUDGET OFFICE.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS, I AM SURE EVERYONE
IS READY TO GO.
WE APPRECIATE THE 4 1/2-HOUR
MEETING TODAY AND ALL OF YOUR
TREMENDOUS WORK.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
FOR SHEPHERDING US THROUGH THAT
LAST CONVERSATION AND TO
CENTRAL STAFF FOR YOUR
PRESENTATIONS AND TO ALL OF OUR
COLLEAGUES FOR THIS MARATHON
MEETING.
DO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND WE
WILL SUE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY.
>> BYE-BYE.
THANK YOU.