>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING
BACK WITH US.
THIS IS OUR SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE IT'S TO:04 IN THE
AFTERNOON ON SEPTEMBER 27.
WE HAVE BEEN IN RECESS SO WE
ARE NOW BACK TO ORDER.
I'M COUNCILMEMBER SALLY BACK-
CHECK, CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBALS, COUNCIL
MEMBER [ INDISCERNIBLE ] YOU'RE
WITH US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS MORNING WE HEARD FROM
TRANSPORTATION AND THE OFFICE
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE OFFICE
OF IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE
AFFAIRS.
TO OUR DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, THEY WERE HERE
IN THE HOT SEAT FOR TWO HOURS.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK
THAT EVERYBODY DID.
ALSO, JUST HOW MEANINGFUL THE
PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAD FROM
THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AFFAIRS
AND THE OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS
. WHAT TREMENDOUS WORK THOSE
TWO PERMITS ARE DOING AND OUR
OFFICES ARE DOING.
WE SO MUCH RESPECT THAT WORK.
SO, NOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR, I
THINK, FROM MY FIRST OF ALL, A
PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT.
AND IN THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WILL BE UP AND THEN
OUR SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US
NOW.
AND THE OFFICE OF
SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT.
LIKE WE DID THIS MORNING, I
THINK ABOUT AN HOUR AND HALF OR
TWO HOURS INTO THIS MEETING WE
MAY CALL FOR ANOTHER 10 MINUTE
RECESS TO GIVE EVERYBODY A
LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.
WE FOUND THAT SEEMED TO WORK.
FOR ANYONE, CHIEF SCOGGINS, OR
ANYONE IN THE OFFICE OF
SUSTAINABILITY, IF YOU WANT TO
JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME
WITH YOU NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE
BIT MORE TIME I WANT TO KNOW
THAT IS POSSIBLE, DEPENDING UP
ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE CLOCK.
SO, ALSO, PUBLIC COMMENT WILL
COME AT THE END OF THE DAY.
I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES CAN STAY
IN HERE AND WE WILL SEE HOW
MANY PEOPLE ARE WITH US THEN.
ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT LET'S GET
GOING. I THINK OUR PUBLIC
SAFETY PILOT PROJECTS, IS THAT
GOING TO BE KICKED UP BY YOU,
GREG?
>> SURE, COUNCILMEMBER.
>> VERY GOOD.
>> I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING
ON THE PROLIFIC OFFENDER ISSUE
AS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN A FEW
MOMENTS.
THERE IS A NUMBER OF
DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING ON
THIS ISSUE.
THIS INITIATIVE THAT WAS PUT
FORTH BY THE MAYOR.
TO PROVIDE A CONTEXT, IN
FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR SCOTT
LINDSAY AUTHORED A REPORT
ENTITLED SYSTEM FAILURE, REPORT
ON PROLIFIC OFFENDERS IN
SEATTLE'S, JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR
THIS REPORT INDICATED THAT A
SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF CRIMINAL
OFFENSES REPORTED IN SEATTLE
ARE BY A LIKE POPULATION THAT
IS CYCLING IN AND OUT OF THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT
TODAY ARE TO ADDRESS THE
FREQUENT OFFENDERS ARE THE HIGH
BARRIER FOLKS THAT ARE CYCLING
IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL.
>> THANK YOU ALL.
WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO KNOWLEDGE,
BEFORE THINGS GOT REALLY DEEP,
IS HOW MUCH I HAVE HEARD FROM
MY CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT 7
ABOUT SOME OF THE EXTRA WORK
THAT THEPOLICE DEPARTMENT IS
DOING.
WHETHER WE HAVE OFFICERS ON THE
GROUND WALKING OR ON THEIR
BIKES, THE EMPHASIS PATROLS
HAVE BEEN VERY WELCOME IN
DOWNTOWN, IN PIONEER SQUARE BUT
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT THEM, BUT I WANT
TO SAY OFF THE TOP THAT THEY
HAVE BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED BY
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING AND
WORKING THERE. I HAVE ALSO
CONTINUALLY HEARD FROM BELLTOWN
THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE EMPHASIS
PATROLS EXPANDED.
WITH THAT WHO IS COMING UP TO
THE TABLE WITH YOU?
YOU AND ASHER?
>> NO.
WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF FOLKS
COMING UP I SHOULD ALSO
MENTION, WE ARE DIVIDING THIS
ISSUE UP A LITTLE BIT.
I WILL BE HANDLING THE POLICE
AND FIRE PORTIONS.
ASHES GOING TO HANDLE THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE PORTIONS WITH
CARLOS, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE
FOR JEFF SIMS IS GOING TO BE
WORKING ON THE JAIL
IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HEAR
ABOUT.
>> SUPER.
úPLEASE, EVERYBODY WHO IS
PLANNING TO PRESENT COME ON UP
BUT AS YOU ARE COMING UP I ALSO
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HAVING SEEN
KING COUNTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY
DAN ZETTERBERG WHO IS VERY
INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THIS
AS WELL.
HE MENTIONED TO ME THE OTHER
DAY THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO END
THE WAR ON DRUG USERS AND MAKE
SURE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE
úSERVICES THAT THEY NEED, MENTA
HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,
AND MOVING BEYOND JUST WHAT WE
HAVE TRADITIONAL SEEN AS LOCK
THEM UP, BUT RATHER TO FIND
SOLUTIONS AND STRATEGIES THAT
WORK.
NICE TO SEE YOU, MR. FELDSTEIN.
MR. FONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET
STARTED WITH INTRODUCTIONS AND
THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER ?
>> SHERBET MICROPHONE, DEPUTY
MAYOR.>> JULIE KLEIN, PUBLIC
SAFETY ADVISOR FOR THE MAYOR.
>> HAROLD SCOGGINS, FIRE CHIEF.
>> ROBERT FELTON, CONSULTANT.
>> DEPUTY CHIEF, SEATTLE PETEY.
>> BENNETT NOBLE, CITY BUDGET
DIRECTOR.
>> ALLISON McLEAN, EXPECT TOM
MACK:SO, COUNCIL CENTRAL STEP.
>>
>> WELDON.
ALL RIGHT.
GREG, THIS IS YOURS?
AT FIRST?
OR TOM, WHO IS GOING ?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE
COMMENTS BUT I THINK WE ARE
READY FOR THE DEPUTY MAYOR TO
KICK US OFF EXPECT NICE TO SEE
YOU BACK HERE.>> COUNCIL
MEMBERS, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, TO
RECAP OUR APPROACH THIS
AFTERNOON IN TERMS OF OUR
EXECUTIVE APPROACH TO THE
SAPONINS PUBLIC SAFETY
DISCUSSION, WE ARE GOING TO
START OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION
THAT HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE
MAYORS CORE PRIORITIES WHEN IT
CAME TO HER DIRECTIVE TO US AS
WE BUILT THE 2020 BUDGET AROUND
A FEW AREAS SPECIFIC RELATED TO
PUBLIC SAFETY.
MANY OF WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY,
WE BRIEF YOU ON AND HAVE
DISCUSSED.
I WANTED TO RECAP SOME OF THOSE
KEY COMPONENTS.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, ACTUALLY,
ENCAPSULATED IN THAT, WILL BE A
PRESENTATION FOCUSED ON THE
HIGH BARRIER INDIVIDUALS
WORKGROUP THAT YOU HAVE
HIGHLIGHTED ALREADY.
FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL THEN
MOVE TO SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT
PRESENTATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT
COME UP WHICH OUR OVERVIEW
PRESENTATION MAY TOUCH ON A FEW
OF THOSE COMPONENTS ALREADY.
WE MAY FROM TIME TO TIME
SUGGEST THAT WE WILL COME BACK
TO MORE DETAIL ON THOSE
ELEMENTS LATER ON IN THE
AFTERNOON.
KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE A LITTLE
BIT OF OVERLAP IN OUR HIGH-
LEVEL TABLE SETTING.
>> WE EXPECT THAT.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
WITH THAT I WILL GO AHEAD AND
START US OFF AND THEN TURN OVER
VARIOUS COMPONENTS TO MY
COLLEAGUES TO MY RIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, ON THIS FIRST
SLIDE I WANTED TO REINFORCE A
FEW THINGS THAT THE MAYOR
DIRECTED US TO DO AND WORK THAT
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY
WITH YOU ALL DURING THE COURSE
OF THE YEAR.
IN SOME CASES EVEN LONGER THEN
JUST 2019.
THE FIRST ONE IS A FOCUS ON
ENHANCING RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION EFFORTS WITHIN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT
THE SAME TIME, THE MAYOR MADE
IT CLEAR TO US THAT HER BUDGET
SHOULD REFLECT THE ABILITY TO
CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN PROACTIVE
COMMUNITY POLICING.
I KNOW, I THINK JUST LAST WEEK
ON COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALES IS
COMMITTEE OUR TEAM PRESENTED
THE SP THE HIRING WORKGROUP
REPORTS, WHICH IS INCLUDED WITH
PARTICIPATION FROM YOUR COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF AND SPD, OUR
MAYORS OFFICES, INNOVATION AND
PERFORMANCE TEAM AS WELL AS THE
CITY BUDGET OFFICE.
WHILE WE HAVE GIVEN A
PRESENTATION TO THE COMMITTEE
PREVIOUSLY WE ARE PREPARED TO
SPEAK TO SOME OF OUR EFFORTS
WITHIN THE BUDGET AS PART OF
HIS AFTERNOONS DISCUSSION.
THE SECOND CORE COMPONENT THAT
THE MAYOR EMPHASIZED FOR US IS
GIVEN THE CHALLENGES THAT OUR
FIRST RESPONDERS ARE FACING
WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE IN
CRISIS ON OUR STREETS, LOOKING
AT HOW WE COULD DIAL UP
INTERVENTIONS AND STRATEGIES
THAT MORE APPROPRIATELY MATCH
INTERVENTION AND STRATEGY WITH
THE NEEDS THAT WE ARE SEEING IN
THE COMMUNITY AND WE WILL SPEAK
TO SOME OF OUR INVESTMENTS IN
THAT AREA.
FINALLY, THE THIRD COMPONENT IS
THE SIX OR SO MONTH
CONVERSATION WE HAVE BEEN
HAVING WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS
WITHIN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
WITH A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON
IDENTIFYING SOME NEW TOOLS TO
DEPLOY FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS
THAT ARE CYCLING THROUGH OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
WITH THE INTENT OF BOTH
ACHIEVING BETTER OUTCOMES FOR
INDIVIDUALS, BUT AT THE SAME
TIME ACHIEVING BETTER OUTCOMES
FOR COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT THE NEXT SLIDE. WE
WILL START WITH SOME OF THE
FOCUS THAT WE HAVE HAD AROUND
SPD HIRING AND RETENTION EFFORTS
AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
DEPUTY CHIEF GARTH GREED AND.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY.
JUST TO START OFF WITH, THE
NUMBER ONE GOAL FOR THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO GET
FULL STAFFING. AS WE FACE A
STAFFING SHORTAGE NOT ONLY
WITHIN OUR CITY, BUT THE
NATIONAL LEVELS AS WELL WE SEE
HOW WE IMPROVE OUR HIRING AND
RETENTION SO WE CAN PROVIDE
QUALITY SERVICE TO THIS GREAT
CITY.
2018 WAS NOT A GOOD YEAR FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF ATTRITION
THROUGH THE YEAR.
WE HAVE SLOWLY STARTED SHIFTING
BACK TO MORE POSITIVE RETURNS
WHERE WE HAVE REDUCED THE
NUMBER OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
OUR HIRING AND OUR SEPARATIONS
TO ONE.
IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE
LOSSES THAT WE ATTRIBUTED TO,
WHICH IS AS WE LOOK TO SHOW HOW
OUR HIRING IS COMPARING TO OUR
LOSSES AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE
ARE CLOSING THAT GAP
SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE WILL NEED TO CONTINUE THOSE
EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CAN CATCH THAT GAP AND THEN
REPLACE OFFICERS THAT HAVE LEFT
WHERE WE STILL HOLD A DEFICIT.
WITH THE RECRUITING AND
RETENTION WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS
A LITTLE MORE ON YESTERDAY'S
SPECIFIC BUDGET FOR WHAT WE
HAVE WITH CONJUNCTION WITH THE
MAYORS OFFICE STAFF FOR COUNCIL
LOOKED AT PUTTING A TASK FORCE
TOGETHER FOR THINGS TO FOCUS ON
FOR OUR RETENTION AND
RECRUITING EFFORTS.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT AS WE GO
THROUGH THIS WITH OUR
COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD MAKE
THEM SAFE AND HEALTHY AND LOOK
TO DIVERT SOME OF THIS UNDER
SPEND INTO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
ONE BEING HIRING AND RETENTION.
WE DO KNOW THAT WERE GOING TO
HAVE TO SPEND SOME CAPITAL IN
ORDER TO IMPROVE THOSE
PROCESSES.
WE HAVE LOOKED FORWARD TO DOING
THAT AND ENHANCING THOSE BUT
ALSO, WORKING WITH REDUCING
CRIME AND ADDRESSING A LOT OF
THE DIFFERENT OBSTACLES THAT WE
FACE AT THE INTERSECTION OF
MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE,
THE REPETITIVE REVOLVING DOOR
OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
WORKING WITH ROBERT FELTON AND
THE MAYORS OFFICE AND OTHERS
COMING UP WITH PLANS TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND
UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS
AS WELL.
WITH THAT.
AND AVOID BEING A STAFFING
SHORTAGE AND MOVING FROM THERE.
>> SORRY, CHIEF.
IF WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION. ARE WE
ALL, I KNOW THAT THERE IS, THIS
PRESENTATION IS MUCH MORE
FOCUSED ON THE HIGH BARRIER
INDIVIDUAL SUITE OF INVESTMENTS
THAT ARE PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A
PRESENTATION AFTER THIS THAT
WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
SPECIFIC, GRANULAR IN DETAIL
ABOUT THE BUDGET IN PARTICULAR.
IF I NEED TO WAIT TO ASK THESE
QUESTIONS UNTIL THE SPD
PRESENTATION I'M HAPPY TO DO
THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DIG INTO THE
UNDER SPEND THAT IS RELATED TO
THE SPD STAFFING SHORTAGE FOR
2019. AND THE PROJECTED
EXPENDITURE FOR THE 2020
BUDGET.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT. AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION OUR WE CAN
STAY FOCUSED. WE CAN HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION NOW OR WE CAN WAIT
TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN
THE CONTEXT OF THE SPD BUDGET.
>> I THINK THAT WILL MAKE MORE
SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE
SPECIFIC BUDGET.
>> OKAY.
I WILL PLANT THE SEED NOW THAT
I'M GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RATHER
SIGNIFICANT UNDER SPEND IN THE
STAFFING BUCKET AND ALSO
RELATED TO THE RETRO PAY FOR
THE SPAR CONTRACTS.
>> JUSTICE SO YOU ARE THINKING
ABOUT IT NOW.
>> WELL FLAGGED.
PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> SO, LOOKING TO EXPAND THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS,
WHICH IS THE NEXT PORTION THAT
WE ARE GOING TO RIGHT NOW.
AND THERE IS A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND
THAT.
WHEN WE DID OPEN UP THE
APPLICATION PROCESS WE HAD OVER
800 APPLICANTS. WE ARE VERY
PLEASED WITH THE RESPONSE
BEHIND THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
BUILDING THAT PROGRAM OUT TO 18
TO ALLOW TEAMWORK TO WORK AT
EACH PRECINCT AND DIVIDE THEM
UP THROUGH THE CITIES.
>> THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
AREAS.
IT'S THAT INTERSECTION OF
TAKING CARE OF THE PUBLIC AND
ALSO IDENTIFYING PEOPLE THAT
HAVE RECURRING BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS
ON OUR STREETS.
AT THE SAME TIME, AT LEAST, IT
LOOKS TO ME, LIKE IT'S
SUPPORTING OFFICERS AS WELL.
TAKING SOME WORKLOAD OFF OF
YOUR SHOULDERS.
I HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY OVER
AND OVER AGAIN THIS IS WHAT
THEY REALLY LIKE TO SEE, THESE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS
EITHER AT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
MEETINGS OR JUST BEING ON THE
STREET. THAT THEY REALLY
EMPHASIZE THE OFFICER FRIENDLY
KIND OF APPROACH.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THAT, COUNCILMEMBER GONZALES
TALKED ABOUT AND UNDERSTAND.
A LOOK AT COMMITTEE SERVICE
OFFICERS AS BEING A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO
KNOW THAT WE ARE OUT THERE, BUT
IN CONTRAST OF HAVING JUST 18,
WHAT IF WE INCREASED THE
NUMBER?
WOULD WE ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS
AT A LESSER COST?
>> CERTAINLY.
THANK YOU.
ABSOLUTELY.
AS WE ENVISION THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICERS, LIKE YOU
SAID, IS TO TAKE A BODY OF WORK
AWAY FROM OUR 91 RESPONDERS.
THAT ARE GOING OUT TO THOSE
CALLS AND TO ALLOW THESE
ESPECIALLY TRAINED OFFICERS TO
OFFER A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
RESOURCES THAT THE CITY
CURRENTLY HAS AND ONCE WE HOPE
WILL EXPAND AT SOME POINT TO
ADDRESS A LOT OF THE MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES THAT PLAGUE US,
THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES. AND
OTHER MINOR PROBLEMS THAT A LOT
OF THE FOLKS FACE, BUT DON'T
KNOW WHO TO TURN TO.
IN THAT SENSE OF NOT KNOWING
WHERE TO TURN TO THE LOGICAL
ANSWER IS 911.
WE DISPATCH OFFICERS AND
UTILIZE THEM IN WAYS THAT MAYBE
WILL NOT BE AS PRODUCTIVE. WE
COULD UTILIZE A DIFFERENT
MONETARY ISSUE WITH THAT.
ENHANCING THAT GROUP,
ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL
TO US BUT WE BELIEVE THIS WOULD
BE A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR US
TO GET THE PROGRAM UP AND
RUNNING. AS FAR AS FACILITY IN
VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE
THAT COMES WITH IT, IT'S NOT
JUST THE PERSON.
AS WE GO TO BUILD THAT PROGRAM
TO START HERE AND LOOK AT THE
MEASURED IMPACT AND THE FORCES
WE ARE UTILIZING SAVING AND
WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS AND
THE BENEFIT WE ARE GAINING FROM
THAT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
MEASURE THIS AND MEASURE THE
OUTCOMES AND A YEAR FROM NOW MY
COLLEAGUES WHO ARE SITTING UP.
AND MAKE DECISIONS TO EXPAND OR
DO WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THIS ?
>> NEGOTIATED WITH UNIONS ?
>> WE ARE CURRENTLY IN
NEGOTIATION WITH THE UNIONS
OVER THIS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT WILL BE ALL WATER
UNDER THE BRIDGE IN A YEAR.
I THINK WE WILL BE ALL WELL
AHEAD OF THE GAME AND WILL BE
ABLE TO EXPAND AT THAT POINT IN
TIME BUT I THINK THE TIME WITH
THIS IS DEVELOPED AND UP AND
RUNNING THE UNIONS WILL SEE THE
BENEFIT FOR I THINK WHEN WE
LOOKED TO NEGOTIATE IT'S ALWAYS
JUST A QUESTION OF IT'S AN
UNKNOWN.
ONCE IT'S FULLY IN PLACE AND
EMBRACE I THINK IT WILL BE AN
ISSUE AT ALL.
WE WILL BE MEASURING IT.
WE ARE A DATA DRIVEN
DEPARTMENT.
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL SORTS
OF DIFFERENT METHODS FOR
PRODUCING CALL LOADS, REDUCING
THE NUMBER OF 911 CALLS INTO
THE SYSTEM. NOT ONLY FOR US,
BUT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
CLARIFICATION. POINT OF
>> I HAVE ONE AS WELL ON THAT
TOPIC.>> JUST A SMALL
CLARIFICATION.
THE EXPANSION OF THE CSO
PROGRAM HERE IS AN ADDITION OF
THE SIX ADDITIONAL CISOS IN THE
MAYORS PROPOSED 2020 BUDGET.
>> WE ALREADY HAVE A DOZEN.
>> AT ONE POINT TO MILLION
DOLLAR REFERENCE IN THE SLIDE
IS A REFERENCE TO THE
INCREMENTAL ADD THE PROPOSED
BUDGET WILL INCLUDE IN ORDER TO
GO FROM 12 TO 18.
>> THAT MAPS BACK TO THE
BROADER CONVERSATION WHICH IS
THE EXECUTIVE HAS PROPOSED MY
GUESS, SOME OF THE UNDER SPEND
THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED GIVEN
SOME OF THE HIRING CHALLENGES
IN ORDER TO INVEST IN SOME
STRATEGIES THAT THE MAYOR
BELIEVES WILL HELP AUGMENT
SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY POLICING.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OFF, SAY
I'M REALLY PLEASED. ONE, FOR
THE GREAT PROGRESS ON ROLLING
OUT THE CSO PROGRAM.
I'M ALSO REALLY PLEASED TO SEE
IT DESCRIBED AS PART OF A
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
STRATEGY.
I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD
WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM.
IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN
POINTING TO FOR A WHILE, THAT
WE ASK SO MUCH OF OUR POLICE
OFFICERS THAT THESE, WHAT ARE,
IN SOME CASES, UNREASONABLE
EXPECTATION FOR OUR OFFICERS TO
BE ACTING AS BASICALLY SOCIAL
WORKERS HAS CHANGED THE NATURE
OF THE JOB IN SUCH A WAY THAT I
THINK PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AS
INTERESTED IN THE JOB. AND THEN
OTHERS WHO BECOME OFFICERS MAY
NOT BE AS INTERESTED IN STAYING
ON THE JOB.
I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD
WAY TO SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS AS
WELL AS ADDRESSING OUR ATTENTION
AND RECRUITMENT GOALS.
THAT SAID, I THINK WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE
AS A CITY CAN DO TO MAKE SURE
THAT OFFICERS AREN'T HAVING TO
SHEPHERD PEOPLE THROUGH SOCIAL
SERVICES SYSTEM, WHO DON'T HAVE
SHELTER OR MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES, THERE ARE OTHER
INTERVENTIONS THE CITY INVESTS
IN THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK
AS BEING UNDER THIS UMBRELLA AS
WELL.
PROGRAMS LIKE LEAD. THAT'S
ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT I THINK
ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
TO GET BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL
ROLE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WHILE
ALLOWING THE LEAD PROGRAM TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNDERLYING
ISSUES OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS WORKING WITH.
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WITHIN
THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
UMBRELLA SOME OTHER TYPES OF
INTERVENTIONS THAT SUPPORT
POLICE OFFICERS.
AND THEN, MY QUESTION, THOUGH,
IS AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY
TO CSO ZAINO THE PLAN IS FOR
DEPLOYMENT IN 2020.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE
BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN
, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST BATCH.
>> THE FIRST BATCH WE ARE
HOPING TO HAVE ALL MY IN THE
FIRST QUARTER OF 2020.
AS I SAID, WE HAD OVER 800
APPLICANTS.
IT'S CREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENT
CHALLENGE AS WE WERE SIFTING
THROUGH THAT.
AND A REALLY GOOD CHALLENGE.
I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY.
I THINK, IF I MAY, I THINK YOU
ARE VERY CORRECT.
WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS RESPONSE
FROM PEOPLE WHEN WE HAVE TALKED
TO THEM SING I DIDN'T
NECESSARILY WANT TO BE A POLICE
OFFICER, BUT WANTED TO HELP BUT
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT AVENUE
FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAP INTO
THOSE ABILITIES OF THOSE FOLKS
PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE OFFICERS WHO
SAY I WANT TO BE AN OFFICER,
NOT A SOCIAL WORKER IT IS
FEELING IT OUT.
THANK YOU.
>> AND MAINTAINING A COMMUNITY
BASED EMPHASIS PATROLS CAUGHT
LOOKING TO AUGMENT PUBLIC
SAFETY NEEDS. WE LOOKED AT WHAT
WE DID THIS YEAR AND THE CALLS
THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM THE
COMMUNITY TO REPLICATE THOSE
SAME TYPES OF PROGRAMS NEXT
YEAR BUT MAY BE IN THE SAME
AREAS ARE DIFFERENT AREAS,
DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR DATA
SHOWS US.
WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT
PART OF THE BUDGET.
>> GOOD.
QUICKLY.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THE BOTTOM SAYS TOTAL OF 3.,
$2 MILLION ONE-TIME ONGOING.
CAN YOU JUST, I MEAN, I KNOW
THIS INFORMATION, BUT THE
PUBLIC MAY NOT BUT I GET TO
TALK TO YOU FOLKS A LOT ON
THESE ISSUES, SO MAYBE YOU CAN
GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY WHICH
ONE OF THESE ARE ONE TIME
FUNDING VERSUS ONGOING.
>> CERTAINLY.
>> DR. NOBLE, EVERYBODY IS
LOOKING AT YOU.
>> THE CSO, I'M SORRY, I'M A
STRANGE ANGLE ON ALL OF THIS,
THERE IS SOME INITIAL STARTUP
COSTS AND IN SALARIES FOR THE
ADDITIONAL SIX. THE STRATEGIC
HIRING PLAN IS SOME OF THE SAME
BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF
ME, BUT THE EXACT SPLIT,
ALTHOUGH, I THINK THE GENERAL
THOUGHT IS IT WILL CONTINUE
THOSE EFFORTS UNTIL WE REALLY
SEE A BEND IN THE CURB.
WE WILL GET A BETTER SENSE
WHICH ARE MOST EFFECTIVE AS WELL
. AND THEN, AGAIN, THE
AUGMENTATION PLANS TO CONTINUE
INTO 2020 AND THEN I WOULD LIKE
TO REEVALUATE THE RELATIVE NEED
THERE.
>> RIGHT.
ON THE EMPHASIS PATROLS THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT DOES YEAR-ROUND BUT
THIS WAS JUST A PARTICULAR
FOCUSED EXPANSION OF RESOURCES
TO ALLOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
TO DO ADDITIONAL EMPHASIS
PATROLS.
WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT, AS A CITY
COUNCIL AND AS MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY, THAT SUDDENLY
EMPHASIS PATROLS ARE GOING TO
GO AWAY IS EFFECTIVELY OVERTIME
PAY TO ALLOW OFFICERS TO DO
ADDITIONAL PATROL HOURS.
CORRECT ?
>> YEAH.
AGAIN, I WILL FURLOUGH TO THE
CHIEF ON HIS.
IT'S TARGETED ADDITIONAL WORK
RATHER THAN JUST OVERTIME.
>> I THINK WE ARE SEEING THE
SAME THING. IT'S JUST TARGETED
IN AN AREA, BUT THE WAY WE
ACCOMPLISH THAT IS WE ARE
EFFECTIVELY PURCHASING
ADDITIONAL TIME OF OUR OFFICERS
TO ENGAGE IN THAT TARGETED LAW
ENFORCEMENT WORK.
>> CORRECT.
>> ANYTHING ELSE?
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BRANNAN?
>> QUICKLY ON THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICER
>> I KNOW THAT PROGRAM IS JUST
GETTING LAUNCHED, RELAUNCHED
BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
DO WE KNOW NEVER HAVE ENOUGH
EXPERIENCE ON THE HIRING
PROCESS TO KNOW, ARE WE FACING
THE SAME CHALLENGES ABOUT SWORN
OFFICERS OR IS IT AN EASIER JOB
TO RECRUIT AND HIRE FOR?
>> FORGIVE US, BECAUSE WE HAVE
GONE THROUGH THIS ALREADY.
>> WITH THAT SAID I WILL LOOK
AT THE TAPE.
>> THE SHORT IS 800 APPLICANTS
FOR 12 POSITIONS.
>> SORRY.
>> MOVING ONTO BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AND GOING TO GO A LITTLE
BIT OUT OF ORDER AND THEN TURN
IT OVER TO CHIEF SCOGGINS.
LOOKING TO SUPPORT OUR CRISIS
RESPONSE UNIT BY ADDING FOUR
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ONE
FOR EACH PRECINCT.
WHAT THIS IS, AS WE SEE THE
GROWING ISSUES WITHIN, IN 18
MONTHS WE HAD 15,995 INDIVIDUAL
CRISIS CALLS.
LAST YEAR IN THAT YEAR WE
SERVED ALMOST 7200 SPECIFIC
INDIVIDUALS WITH CRISIS.
AS IS BECOMES A MORE GROWING
CONCERN FOR OUR CITY WE NEED TO
HAVE BETTER INTERVENTION
STRATEGIES AND HIGHLY TRAINED
FOLKS TO INTERACT NOT ONLY TO
TRAIN OUR OFFICERS, BUT TO BE
OUT OF THE FIELD WITH US BUT
THIS WILL ALLOW US THE ABILITY
TO DEPLOY THEM INTO THE FIELD
WITH OUR OFFICERS, SO WHEN WE
COME UPON THOSE CALLS UTILIZING
THEM TO DE-ESCALATE AND
INAPPROPRIATE SERVICES AND HELP
THOSE FOLKS OUT.
>> WELL DONE.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN
SOMETHING WE HAVE ALL BEEN
CHAMPIONING.
THAT TAKES US RIGHT INTO CHIEF
SCOGGINS HEALTH ONE AND OUR LOW
ACUITY WORK.
>> BEFORE THE WE DO THAT, CAN I
FOLLOW UP ON THIS?
SBD CRISIS RESPONSE UNIT,
THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE
CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> CORRECT.
>> SO, HOW MANY, SO, THERE IS
FOUR ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS BEING ADDED.
ONE FOR EACH PRECINCT. THAT IS
ON TOP OF HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT
CURRENTLY DO THIS WORK?
>> ONE.
>> RIGHT. I REALLY WANTED TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A
GROWING BODY OF WORK THAT IS
REFLECTIVE OF THE REALITIES OF
HOW POLICING IS CHANGING IN
THIS MODERN DAY AND ERA. THIS
IS AN AREA THAT WAS RECEIVING A
LOT OF ATTENTION DURING THE
CONSENT DECREE THE PROCESS AS
WELL IN TERMS OF RESPECTING
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THOSE
EXPERIENCING CRISIS.
IT IS NOW MANY, MANY, MANY
YEARS LATER, SINCE 2012, TO NOW
2019, IT HAS BEEN AN AREA OF
SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT BY THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF
DE-ESCALATING SITUATIONS AND
REDUCING THE NUMBER OF
INAPPROPRIATE USES OF A FORCE
AND INAPPROPRIATE, JUST, IN
SOME CASES ELIMINATING THE NEED
TO USE FORCE IN THE INTERACTION
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING CRISIS THIS IS, I
SEE THIS AS A KEY INVESTMENT TO
THE CITIES OVERALL NEED TO
DOUBLE DOWN ON OUR COMMITMENT
TO DE-ESCALATION OF A USE OF
SERIOUS AND DEADLY FORCE. AND A
LOT OF FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND
THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
WORK WITH ONE PERSON, PRIMARILY.
THIS IS A HUGE AREA OF NEED.
WE GET A LOT OF KUDOS AND
CREDITS NATIONALLY FOR THE
MODEL AND THE WORK WE DO IN
THIS SPACE AND THINK THAT IT IS
REALLY MERIT, MERITS ATTENTION
AND CONTINUED GROWTH IN THIS
SPACE TO REALLY PAIR UP WITH
REALITY OF HOW POLICING IN THIS
DAY AND AGE HAS REALLY EVOLVED.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS
BUT MY ONLY COMMENT WAS
RECOGNIZING WE HAVE JUST
INCREASED THIS BY 400% IF YOU
DO THE QUICK NUMBERS.
IT SOUNDS HUGE.
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IN THE
FUTURE THAT WE HAVE A MENTAL
HEALTH WORKER ON ALL THREE
SHIFTS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WITH THE
NUMBER OF CALLS WE HAVE IN AS
LARGE A CITY AS WE HAVE WITH
THE POPULATION WE HAVE WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIELD HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS AT ALL TIMES
THROUGHOUT OUR CITIES.
>> TRY TO PROCEED ONE MORE
TIME.
>> OKAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS.
FIRST ITEM IS THE EXPANSION OF
OUR HEALTH ONE PROGRAM WE HAVE
TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT LATELY.
WE ARE ON THE DOORSTEP OF
LAUNCHING THAT FIRST UNIT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU FUNDED OUR
INITIAL UNIT TO STAND UP A ONE-
YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS
OF TRAINING OUR FIREFIGHTERS
AND A SELECTION OF THE CASE
MANAGER WHO WILL BE WRITING
WITH THEM.
WHAT THIS $400,000 WILL DO IS
EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO POSSIBLY
STAND UP A SECOND UNIT.
THIS IS GOING TO RESPOND TO
THOSE LOW ACUITY NONEMERGENT
TYPE CALLS THE DON'T REALLY
NEED TO BE IN EMERGENCY ROOM.
AS WE SPOKE ABOUT WHEN WE
TALKED ABOUT THE LOW ACUITY
CALLS.
THIS COULD BE FROM SOMEONE
HAVING AN ADDICTION ISSUE,
SOMEONE WHO IS HOMELESS,
SOMEONE WHO IS IN CRISIS.
ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THEY ARE OUT CRATING
RELATIONSHIPS TO BE ABLE TO
TAKE THEM TO DIFFERENT PLACES,
WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US
BUT WHETHER IT'S AN URGENT
CARE, A CLINIC, A SHELTER, OR A
PLACE FOR THEM TO JUST BE SAFE.
THAT IS WHAT THIS WILL DO.
IT WILL EXPAND THAT SERVICE.
THE THIRD BULLET ON THE PAGE IS
ADDING ON-SITE MEDICAL SUPPORT
TO OUR HIGH CALL VOLUME
SHELTERS.
TO IDENTIFY THE SHELTERS WOULD
BE 517 3F, WHICH IS THE MAIN
SHELTER, 509, WHICH IS DUE
MORRISON.
LYNN TONIO WHICH IS THE 1400
BLOCK OF MINOR.
YOU GM, 318 SECOND AVENUE EAST.
AT 1811 E. LAKE.
IT TURNS OUT THESE LOCATIONS
ARE LOCATIONS THAT WE RESPOND TO
IN A VERY HIGH-VOLUME.
A HIGH NUMBER OF CALLS.
EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS WERE AT
AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.
THE MAIN SHELTER WE ARE AT AS
MANY AS THREE TIMES A DAY.
FOR THEM TO HAVE ON-SITE
MEDICAL CARE IS GOING TO BE
VERY IMPORTANT BUT IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE MAIN
SHELTER AND THE MORRISON, THEY
ACTUALLY HAVE MEDICAL CARE WHAT
WE KNOW IS WHEN THEIR MEDICAL
CARE IS ON-SITE OUR CALL
RESPONSES ARE LOWER.
THIS WILL ACTUALLY EXPAND THAT
SERVICE LATER INTO THE EVENING
TO HELP GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY
NEED FOR THE HELP THAT THEY
NEED.
318 SECOND AVENUE EAST, FOR
EXAMPLE, THEY DO NOT HAVE
HEALTHCARE ON-SITE THIS WILL BE
A NEW AVENUE FOR THEM.
WE KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT IN
GETTING PEOPLE TREATED ON SITE.
WE KNOW THAT IS GOING TO REDUCE
OUR CALL VOLUME.
THE LAST BULLET ON THE PAGE IS
CREATE A DEDICATED NURSE TRIAGE
PHONE LINE.
WE DID A PILOT ON THIS A LITTLE
OVER A YEAR AGO BUT WHAT WE DID
IS WE FOUND FUNDING AND WE GAVE
THE MAIN SHELTER A NURSE TRIAGE
LINE.
WHAT WE SAW WAS WHEN
INDIVIDUALS IN THE SHELTER USE
THAT NURSE TRIAGE LINE EIGHT IN
10 OF THOSE PHONE CALLS THAT
WERE MADE DID NOT RESULT IN A
911 CALL.
THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A
911 CALL.
THAT'S PRETTY HUGE.
IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE THE RIGHT
RESOURCE AND THE USE OF THAT
RESOURCE IT CAN FIT THEIR NEEDS
A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>> I WOULD AGAIN WANT TO
EXPRESS MY HUGE THANKS.
CHIEF SCOGGINS, YOU HAVE BEEN
WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH YOU HAVE
ACTUALLY GOTTEN AHEAD OF THE
GAME. IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL
WORKING WITH YOU, JOHN
EHRENFELD, AND KENNY STEWART,
AND UNION LEADERS.
PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER BUILDING
ON SOME MODELS WE KNOW ARE
WORKING AND THEN ADDING THE
NURSE TRIAGE, ADDING NURSES ON-
SITE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PHONE,
AND ALSO OUR MERE FOR RECOGNIZE
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS.
I ALSO WANT TO EXTEND THANKS TO
LESLIE BRINSON WHO GOT ON BOARD
ON THIS WORKING WITH OUR CRISIS
CONNECTIONS.
SUDDENLY WE HAVE GOT THAT
KNITTED NETWORK WE HAVE BEEN
ASKING FOR I KNOW IT HAS TAKEN
TIME, BUT I REALLY RESPECT THE
WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
MANY THANKS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK THE NEXT ONE LOOKS
LIKE MR. FELDSTEIN.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL.
SO, I'M GOING TO TALK BRIEFLY
ON THE WORK OF THE HIGH BARRIER
INDIVIDUAL WORKING GROUP.
THIS IS MANY AGENCIES LOOKING
AT A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF
DATA.
THIS IS A POPULATION THAT IS
CHALLENGING BUT THE SYSTEMS ARE
CHALLENGING.
THERE ARE TWO PROSECUTING
AGENCIES, TWO CORE SYSTEMS,
CITY AND COUNTY HEALTH AND
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE
PROVIDERS, PLUS THE NETWORK OF
PRIVATE PROVIDERS.
THIS IS A GROUP THAT IS AT THE
TAIL END OF MOST MEASURES 3% OF
INDIVIDUALS CAUSING 15% OF THE
INCIDENTS OR 3% OF, LIKEWISE,
POLICE REPORTS. SIMILAR
MEASURES.
BY REPORTING STANDARDS OVER TWO
THIRDS SHOWING BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH ISSUES.
66% OR MORE.
THREE QUARTERS SHOWING
HOMELESSNESS THOSE ARE PROBABLY
BOTH UNDERCOUNT, BECAUSE THEY
ARE WHAT REGISTERS FOR TWO
THIRDS ENGAGED IN SOME LEVEL OF
SERVICE, BUT THAT IS
OVERSTATING PROBABLY HOW MUCH
SERVICES THEY ARE GETTING.
THAT MEANS THEY ARE IN IN
SOMEONE'S SYSTEM, BUT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY MEAN THEY ARE
ENGAGED IN SERVICES MEETING
THEIR NEEDS.
THIS IS A TINY GROUP THAT HAS
AND DISPROPORTIONATELY MPACT
CHALLENGING. SO, THE GROUP DID
LOTS OF WORK AND A LOT OF DATA.
SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE
MANIFEST ALREADY IN THE BUDGET
TODAY AND A LOT OF WORK IS
GOING ON IN THE CITY ALREADY.
AND THEN THEY THOUGHT ABOUT
WHAT OUR EXTRA TOOLS THAT WILL
HELP ADDRESS THIS SITUATION.
RIGHT NOW WE SEEM TO NEED SOME
EXTRA TOOLS.
I HAVE A FOUR THINGS THAT I
CAME UP WITH.
THE ONE THAT GOT THEM SOME OF
THE MOST ATTENTION IS THE
SHELTER PILOT AND THE FORMER
COUNTY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.
TO HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL
SHELTER ON THE FIRST FLOOR
WHERE THEY HAVE RECRUITED A
TOUGH POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVE STRUGGLED IN OTHER SHELTER
SITUATIONS.
THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEM IN AND
THEY HAVE HAD GREAT RESULTS BUT
HIGHER THAN AVERAGE RESULTS
GETTING INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.
LOWER THAN AVERAGE CALLS TO
SCOGGINS AND 911 AND OTHERS.
THEY HAVE SHOW THAT SUCCESSFUL.
WE WILL AMP THAT UP WITH A
RECRUITED APPROACH, BUT FOCUSED
ON THOSE ENGAGED IN THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO JUST FILL
UP WITH WHOEVER COMES IN, THESE
ARE WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT FOR
THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND FOR THE
COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE GETTING
THE SERVICES THEY NEED.
WE WILL BE BRINGING ON-SITE
SERVICES, SO IT'S NOT A
TREATMENT CENTER, BUT A CENTER
THAT HAS TREATMENT IN IT.
THAT'S WHERE WE RUN INTO THE
LIMITS OF WHAT I KNOW AS A
CLINICIAN TO CALL IT.
THAT IS GOING TO TAKE CAPITAL
AND OPERATING INVESTMENT TO, BY
BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
THE SECOND IS CASE CONFERENCING
PUDDLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND OUT
TAKING A STEP BACK THAT WE NEED
AS A GROUP ACROSS ALL THESE
DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND THE
DIFFERENT COMPLEXITIES I TALKED
ABOUT IS IDENTIFYING SHARED
PRIORITIES.
HUGE CASELOADS.
THE CITY ATTORNEY AND COUNTY
PROSECUTORS AND THE COURTS.
CASES OFTEN GET, UNFORTUNATE,
JUST CAUGHT IN THE SYSTEM AS
ANOTHER CASE TO DEAL WITH.
IF THERE'S A SENSE OF WHICH
ONES NEED MORE ENERGY AND
ATTENTION AND WHERE TO GET THE
SOLUTIONS WE CAN FIND SOME
EXTRA ENERGY AND IT MIGHT BE A
GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
IDENTIFYING SHARED PRIORITIES
AND COMING UP WITH A SHARED PLAN
SO WE ARE NOT HAVING
CORRECTIONS DOING ONE THING AND
HUMAN SERVICES DOING ANOTHER
THING.
AND THAT GIVING THEM THE TOOLS
TO ADDRESS THAT PLAN.
CASE CONFERENCING IS A HOLDER
OF THAT.
WHO ARE THE SHARED INDIVIDUALS?
WHAT CAN WE DO?
WHAT ARE ALL THE TOOLS WE HAVE?
THE FAMILIAR FACES LIKE LEAD AND
VITAL IMPACT AND LINKED WITH
NEW TOOLS WE ARE DEVELOPING.
OTHER SERVICES, THAT WILL
HAPPEN THERE AND ALSO A STEP
BACK.
AND EVALUATING IS THIS WORKING?
WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT.
THESE ARE ALL BASED ON MODELS
THAT SEEM PROMISING AND HAVE
SOME EVIDENCE BUT UNTIL WE PUT
THE WERE WHEELS ON AND START
MAKING IT HAPPEN, THEY WILL BE
CHECKING TO SEE IF WE ARE
GETTING THE RESULTS WE WANT FOR
INDIVIDUALS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
CASE CONFERENCING IS GOING TO
HOLD THAT.
>> WHO IS HOLDING THAT?
>> THE CASE CONFERENCING.
THE PEOPLE THAT WE BE MEETING
ON A REGULAR BASIS.
>> IS THERE ANY ONE SINGLE
ENTITY OR DEPARTMENT WHO IS
GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS
WORK?
>> WE ARE STILL TRYING TO
FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
BE OWNER OF THAT SO THEY CAN
SAY HERE IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.
WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS.
THAT'S A CITY DECISION ABOUT
WHERE THAT BUDGET WILL I.
>> I HOPE WE DO THAT ON THE
FRONT END.
WE KNOW, AND MR. FELDSTEIN, I
THOUGHT YOU DID A PARTICULARLY
GREAT ROLE IN, AND CONVENING,
AND THEN YOU KEPT THINGS
MOVING.
I THINK SOME OF MY WORRY IS
THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS AND I,
HAVING WORKED WITH OUR UNIQUE
COURT JUDGES, KNOW THAT WHAT
HAS BEEN ASKED FOR IS A LOT MORE
TOOLS FOR THEM, BUT PLACES
WHERE THEY CAN DIRECT JEWELS TO
GO.
SO WE ARE NOT JUST CIRCLING OUT
OR PUTTING THEM BACK UP IN
HARBORVIEW PUTTING THEM IN JAIL
FOR TAKING THEM TO OUR CRISIS
SOLUTION CENTER AND THEN THEY
ARE BACK OUTSIDE AGAIN.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE
OPENING UP THE WEST WING.
THAT'S GREAT.
I'M EXCITED THAT WE ARE OPENING
UP HARBORVIEW, WHICH I
UNDERSTAND KING COUNTY, THE
HARBORVIEW HALL, THAT'S GOING
TO BE 24/7 SHELTER AS WELL
SOON.
WE KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS JUST
KEEP GOING UP THAT WE ACTUALLY
PLACES WE CAN DIRECT THEM BUT
THAT MEANS IF SOMEBODY HAS GOT
TO BE IN CHARGE.
>> YOU BUT JUST A SMALL
CLARIFICATION.
WHILE THE HIGH BARRIER
INDIVIDUAL WORKGROUP HAD BEEN
MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR
THE BETTER PART OF THE LAST
FIVE OR SIX MONTHS OUR INTENTION
IS THAT CONVENING HAS BEEN
HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE AND OUR
INTENTION IS TO CONTINUE THAT
WORKGROUP CONVENING GOING
FORWARD.
NOT QUITE THE SAME LEVEL OF
INTENSITY, BUT THE INTENTION
HERE IS GIVEN NOT ONLY IS THE
WORK REMAINING TO OFFER
OPERATIONALIZE AND IMPLEMENT
THESE PILOTS, BUT THERE ARE
STILL OTHER AREAS OF DISCUSSION
THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT
AND INTENDS TO CONTINUE TO
BUILD UPON. SOME OF THE DIALOGUE
AND RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE
BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST COUPLE
OF MONTHS.
>> I RESPECT THAT.
ONE THING IS YOU AND ALL OF US
UP HERE WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY
ENGAGED IN THE SNOW HOW MUCH
WORK HAS GONE INTO IT.
AND THE CROSS DEPARTMENTAL WORK
BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE NOT
DONE A GREAT JOB ABOUT FRAMING
WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT THE
BENEFITS WILL BE TO THE PUBLIC.
I'M JUST GOING TO POINT TO
SCOTLAND'S THESE REPORTS, THAT
THING CAME OUT AND THEN WE HAD
THE SEATTLE IS DYING TV,
WHATEVER WE WANTED TO CALL IT,
>> OP-ED.
>> I WAS GOING TO USE THAT
WORD.
I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING
ELSE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE THE
SAME WORK TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE
HAVE HEARD IT AND SEEN IT. WE
HAVE THIS GROUP TOGETHER IN
HERE IS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS
GOING TO SEE.
TO THE EXTENT WE CAN FRAME THAT
SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE ARE
DOING BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE
VERY USEFUL.
>>.TAKEN.
WE WILL CONTINUE.
MY JOB WAS TO HELP COME TO THE
CONCLUSIONS BUT YES BUT THE
MESSAGING DOES MATTER.
ACTUALLY, IT BECOMES PART OF
WHETHER THESE THINGS HAPPEN OR
NOT AND WHETHER THEY ARE
ACCEPTED.>> I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER HER BOLT HAS
SOMETHING SHE WANTS TO ADD.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I
THINK IT'S A REASONABLE POLICY
QUESTION FOR US AS A COUNSEL TO
ASK, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
THIS NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR NEW
STRATEGY AND PILOT PROGRAMS
FOCUSED ON HIGH BARRIER
INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER OR NOT IT
MAKES SENSE TO INVEST IN THOSE
UNPROVEN IDEAS RATHER THAN
INVEST IN PROVEN INTERVENTIONS
THAT ARE EVIDENCE-BASED AND WE
KNOW WHAT THEIR OUTCOMES ARE
FOR THE SAME POPULATION. SO,
PROGRAMS LIKE VITAL AND DELETE.
THESE ARE PROGRAMS FOCUSED ON
THIS SAME POPULATION OF PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED THEIR
OUTCOMES BUT THEY ARE VERY
SUCCESSFUL AND THEY ARE UNDER
RESOURCED.
I JUST WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN
THAT IS A POLICY QUESTION THAT
I THINK WE NEED TO STRUGGLE
WITH.
>> I THINK WE ARE GOING TO COME
BACK.
WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I THINK AT ONE POINT I WILL SAY
THAT THERE IS A SENSE FROM SOME
INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY NEED
ADDITIONAL TOOLS.
THERE IS NO OVERLAP WITH SOME OF
OUR BARRIERS AND THOSE PROGRAMS
RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS, NOT
BECAUSE OF CAPACITIES, BECAUSE
OTHER ISSUES ARE NOT BEING
SERVED. PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS
AND OTHERS.
THERE IS, I THINK, ALL THE
TOOLS NEEDED.
I DON'T NEED TO UNDERMINED ANY
OTHER TOOL, IT WAS SEEN AS AN
ADDITION, NOT IN OPPOSITION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
>> WE ARE NOT TALKING IN THE
WELL.
WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE USING
THESE TRIED-AND-TRUE PROGRAMS.
WE ALSO KNOW NOT EVERY PROGRAM
ADDRESSES EVERY NEED THAT WE
HAVE OUT THERE.
I WILL SAY I SUPPORT WHAT WAS
THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO
INVEST IN THOSE, BUT I ALSO
WANT TO TRY SOME NEW STUFF.
I WANT TO TRY SOME THINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO WORK OR ARE
PROMISING.
SHORT WORK IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS, BUT ARE
PROMISING.
I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY SET
OUR SIGHTS IN A HIGHER AND
BIGGER WAY TO ADDRESS THESE
PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE ALL SEEING.
>> JUST TO COMPLETE THE LIST IS
LIKE THERE WILL BE MORE RICH
CONVERSATION.
THAT THEIR PROPOSED PILOT IS A
RAPID REENTRY CONNECTOR BUT WE
KNOW MOST PEOPLE WHO GET ANY
REENTRY SERVICES HAVE TO BE
THERE FOR TWO HOURS FOR A LARGE
POPULATION IS THEREFORE 12, 24,
48 HOURS, INCLUDING A LOT OF
OUR HIGH BARRIER INDIVIDUALS.
BEING ABLE TO, AT A MINIMUM, 60
SOMETHING% OF THEM ARE ENGAGED
IN SOCIAL SERVICE RIGHT NOW.
>> WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE?
>> I BELIEVE 64 IS THE
PERCENTAGE.
LIKE I SAID, I CANNOT TELL YOU
THE FULL LENGTH OF ENGAGEMENT
WERE EVERYTHING ELSE.
SOME OF THEM MAYBE DIDN'T
INTAKE AND SOME OF THEM REFUSE
REGULARLY PICK EVEN SOMEONE WHO
CAN SAVE THESE PERSON CAME
THROUGH AND THEY ARE IN YOUR
SERVICE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A
WARM CONNECTION AS THEY COME
OUT OF JAIL.
THAT'S A BENEFIT ADD.
WE KNOW THIS PERSON CAN REFER
PEOPLE TO THE WEST WING.
YOU ARE HAVING A HARD TIME
COMING THROUGH HERE AND THERE'S
A FACILITY NEXT DOOR.
THIS PERSON WILL HELP LINK
PEOPLE TO SERVICES THAT ARE
ELIGIBLE.
I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE
THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME,
THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL ON CASE
MANAGEMENT, BUT THERE IS A POINT
AT THE JAIL THAT RIGHT NOW
THESE PEOPLE ARE PASSING
THROUGH AND BEING ABLE TO WRITE
AND IF I INDIVIDUALS AND WHAT
SERVICES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR
THEM AND TO LINK THEM WHEN
APPROPRIATE. AND THEN THE
FOURTH IS THE HIGH BARRIER
PROBATION VIOLENT WE KNOW THAT
WHEN THESE PEOPLE DO, WHEN
INDIVIDUALS DO COME TO COURT
LOOKING AT THE 160 INDIVIDUALS
WHO HAD SEVEN OR MORE COURT
CASES, ONCE AGAIN, LESS THAN 3%
OF THE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH
COURT, IF THEY GET CONVICTED
TWO THIRDS OF THE TIME IT'S A
JAIL.
ONE THIRD OF THE TIME IT'S
PROBATION.
IF THEY GET PROBATION WE KNOW
THEY ARE FAILING 17% SUCCESS
RATE WHEN THE GENERAL SUCCESS
RATE IS OVER 70%.
JUDGES ARE OFTEN CHOICE OF JAIL
OR NOTHING FOR THESE PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN
TRUST.
WE WANT AN ALTERNATIVE TO JAIL
TO LINK PEOPLE TO SERVICES.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO A SERVICE
ENHANCED PROBATION WHERE WE ARE
WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS,
NOT USING TRADITIONAL MODEL OF
JUST COURT BASED APPOINTMENT,
BUT ALSO MEETING THEM AT
TREATMENT PROVIDERS, COMMUNITY
CENTERS, PUBLIC HEALTH CLINICS,
TRYING TO, THE CASE MANAGERS,
PROBATION COUNSELORS, WILL BE
TRAINED IN HARM REDUCTION BY
HARBORVIEW TO UNDERSTAND SOME
OF THE MOTIVATIONAL TECHNIQUES.
AND LOOKING AT HOW PROBATION
CAN BE, THERE ARE MODELS OUT
THERE IN MINNEAPOLIS AND OTHERS
WERE PROBATION WITH A SMALL
CASELOAD HAS BEEN ABLE TO LINK
TO REDUCING RECIDIVISM AND
INCREASED UPTAKE OF SERVICES WE
THINK THAT'S A BETTER OUTCOME
THAN JAPANESE INDIVIDUALS.
WE ARE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO
SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
IT ACTUALLY HAS TWO PARTS.
THERE IS THAT PIECE AND A
TREATMENT ALTERNATIVE, WHICH
IS, ESSENTIALLY, PEOPLE WHO
WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO JAIL OR
ARE IN JAIL UNTIL HE TREATMENT
OPTION IS FOUND.
AND THEN THERE PUT INTO
TREATMENT. IF NO ONE IS GOING
TO GO TO TREATMENT THEY CAN BE
MAD STATED THAT THIS IS AN
ALTERNATIVE TO JAIL.
WHERE THEY CAN GO INTO
TREATMENT.
I THINK FROM HERE ON THE
MODALITY IS A 28 DAY TREATMENT.
WHEN RELEASED FROM THAT THEY
ARE OFTEN IN ONGOING OUTPATIENT
TREATMENT SUPERVISED BY THE
PROBATION OFFICER WITH THE
SMALL CASELOADS TRYING TO LINK
THEM.
IT'S CHALLENGING.
WE THINK IS A BETTER
ALTERNATIVE THAN JUST GOING TO
JAIL, WHICH IS THE CURRENT
OPTION.
>> COUNT A MEMBER?
IF YOU LIKE, MINE IS A
DIFFERENT LINE OF QUESTIONING.
>> OKAY.
SALINE?
>> YEAH.
ON THIS.
>>
>> THIS LAST REGULATION IS THE
ONE HAVE THE MOST CONCERN ABOUT.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THROUGH
THIS BUDGET PROCESS I CAN GET
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO HELP
ME FEEL MORE, JUST TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING
HERE.
ON A HIGH BARRIER PROBATION
PILOT IS THIS A CONDITION OF
RELEASE? PRE-CONVICTION,
POSTCONVICTION, PREFILING? WHAT
IS IT ?
>> ONLY POST SINS IN.
THIS IS PROBATION.
>> THAT IS POSTCONVICTION, POST
SINS AND.
>> AND THE JUDGE IS CHOOSING AS
AN OPTION JAIL OR THIS AT THIS
POINT.
THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO JAIL
FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL.
>> INTERESTING.
>> I THINK, SO, IT IS
EFFECTIVELY LIKE TRADITIONAL
PROBATION WITH THE ADDITION OF
SERVICES.
>> YEAH.
AND BEING IN THE COMMUNITY
TRYING TO INFORM, REDUCE THE
ELEMENT OF HARM REDUCTION,
FOCUS ON THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE
REDUCTION BUT NOT NECESSARILY
ABSTINENCE WE ARE WORKING THIS
OUT, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL.
>> AND THE CONSEQUENCE OF
FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE
TERMS OF SUPERVISION RESULT IN
JAIL?
>> ULTIMATELY, YES.
I THINK THE GOAL, IT'S A WORK
IN PROGRESS AND I CAN'T SPEAK
FOR THE FINAL PROGRAM DESIGN IT
WILL ULTIMATELY BE IMPLEMENTED
BY THE COURT
>> SOME OF THEM ARE HERE.
IT WILL BE UNDERSTANDING, AT
LEAST IN THE INITIAL STAGES,
OFTEN PROBATION BUT I CAN'T
SPEAK TO SEATTLE PROBATION
SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE'S A
CHALLENGE THAT THEY HAVE A FEW
TOOLS.
WHICH IS, THEY HAVE, WARNING
YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT AND THEN
REVOKING PROBATION FOR JAIL.
THERE IS AN UNDERSTAND OF YOU
SHOULDN'T DO THAT, YOU SHOULD
DO THAT, AND THEN JAIL AND THAT
IS THE OPTION
>> IF YOU CAN REPORT PEOPLE
THINK THESE ARE GOOD BEHAVIORS,
THESE ARE GOOD INCENTIVES, AND
GRADUATED RESPONSES THINK THIS
IS AUTOMATIC AND HERE'S A SMALL
RESPONSE.
AS WE TRY TO GET BETTER
BEHAVIOR AND OUTCOMES.
THEY HAVE HAD GOOD RESULTS.
THEY HAVE HAD FEWER PEOPLE GO
TO JAIL AND MORE UPTAKE IN
SERVICES AND TREATMENT SUCCESS
DOES SEEM GOOD OUTCOMES TO
PURSUE.>> I THINK, YOU KNOW, I
THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR
US TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE OTHER
MODELS THAT YOU ARE CITING AND
GET INTO THE PARTICULARS AROUND
THAT DESIGN OF THOSE MODELS.
YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM WORK ACROSS THE
COUNTRY MANY JURISDICTIONS ARE
MOVING AWAY FROM SUPERVISION
AND FROM PROBATION. AND IT
SEEMS CONTRADICTORY FOR US HERE
AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE, WHO IS
LAUDED AS BEING THE MOST
PROGRESSIVE CITY IN THE COUNTRY
TO ACTUALLY BE DOUBLING DOWN ON
PROBATION AND SUPERVISION AS A
SOLUTION TO ADDRESSING THE
NEEDS OF THIS POPULATION.
SO, I, THE READING I HAVE BEEN
DOING IN THE LITERATURE I HAVE
BEEN LOOKING AT CONTRADICTS
THIS THEORY.
AND I AM COMMITTED TO FIGURING
OUT HOW TO RECONCILE THAT
CONTRADICTION AND, PERHAPS,
IT'S NOT RECONCILABLE.
IF IT ISN'T I THINK THAT IS
GOING TO BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE HERE IN THIS BUDGET
PROCESS IT JUST SEEMS
CONTRADICTORY TO ME FOR US TO
BE MOVING, RUNNING TOWARDS
PROBATION WHEN IT SEEMS THAT
MOST CITIES ARE COMING TO GRIPS
PROBATION ISN'T THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL WAY TO ADDRESS THE
NEEDS OF THESE POPULATIONS.
IN FACT, ENDS UP BEING RATHER
PUNITIVE JUST GIVEN THE LACK OF
SUCCESS RATE WITH ACTUAL
COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUPERVISION.
>> I'M HAPPY TO ENGAGE IN THAT.
I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF
THE WORK. KENNEDY SCHOOL CAME
OUT WITH SOME DIRECTIVES ON
PROBATION AND CHALLENGING THAT
PROBATION IS OFTEN HARMFUL. ON
THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE
PRACTICES THAT HAVE SHOWN
SUCCESS THEIR PROBLEM SOLVING
AND CLIENT FOCUSED AND THAT
CORRECTION OFFICERS, I'M SORRY,
PROBATION OFFICERS, ARE LOOKING
AT. AND SO, I THINK TRYING TO
SEE WHAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM
THE BEST THINKING OUT THERE
MAKES SENSE IN SOME PLACES THAT
MEANS LESS PROBATION AND IN
SOME PLACES IT MEANS DIFFERENT
PROBATION.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ONE.
I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN ONE
ANSWER.>> THINK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> THINK YOU.
I SHARE THE CONCERNS AND LOOK
FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT
HOW TO RECONCILE THIS WITH THE
DATA I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN
READING AND THE QUESTION I HAVE
IS HOW DOES THIS GET RECONCILED
WITH THE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM?
TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY RACIAL
EQUITY ANALYSIS ON ANY OF THESE
FOUR PILOTS BEING PROPOSED HERE
? AND, HOW HAVE THE FOLKS WHO
HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN
A JUSTICE SYSTEM PROVIDED
FEEDBACK ON THESE PILOTS OR
HAVE THEY BEEN INVOLVED? WE ARE
FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGH BARRIER
WORKGROUP, BUT BY UNDERSTANDING
IS THERE IS NOT ACTUALLY
INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES WHO HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM AS PART OF THAT.
HOW DO WE RECONCILE BOTH THE
DATA WE ARE GETTING AT THE
LIVED EXPERIENCE OF FOLKS THAT
ALSO SHOULD INFORM WHETHER NOT
WE MOVE FORWARD ON THESE PILOTS?
>> I THINK THE ANSWER IS WE
LOOKED AT, INCLUDING SOME
PEOPLE WIT LIVED EXPERIENCE OF
THE GROUP, AND I HEARD A LOT OF
CAUTIONARY TALES FROM ADVOCATES
WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM.
ABOUT SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES
WITH OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE
USED THEM AND IT DOESN'T MEAN
WE SHOULDN'T INCLUDE THEM IN
THE PROCESS.
WE TRIED THAT AND AND HAVING
HEARD FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO I
TRUST MORE THAN MYSELF ON THIS
THAT THE CURRENT MODELS DON'T
WORK.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
SEPARATE.
NONE OF THE PROGRAMS ARTFULLY
DESIGNED SO IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE
POPULATIONS IN THE FINAL
PROGRAM DESIGN.
LIKEWISE, ON THE RACIAL EQUITY
ANALYSIS FOR ANY PROGRAM DESIGN
THESE WERE AS A PILOT
RECOMMENDED BY A LARGE GROUP.
THERE RELATIVELY A CLOSE
TIMELINE.
I THINK THEY ARE CONTINUES TO
BE WORKED ON SAYING CAN WE LOOK
AT THESE AND SEE WHAT THE
RESULTS ARE?
SEE WHAT THE RESULTS IN OTHER
PLACES ARE OF SIMILAR MODELS?
SEE WITH THE RACIAL ANALYSIS IS
AND SEE IF THESE COME INTO
PRACTICE.
ARE WE DOING THE WORK THAT WE
WANT TO DO TO UNDO
DISPROPORTIONATE RACIAL IMPACTS.
>> THINK YOU.
MY CONCERN IS THESE WERE SORT
OF COUCHED AS WAYS TO GO
UPSTREAM.
IN MY PERSPECTIVE, MANY OF
THESE ARE NOT UPSTREAM WHEN
PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ENTERING
INTO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM
TO BEGIN WITH IN ORDER TO GET
DIVERTED INTO EITHER SHORT OR
DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROBATION
PERIOD.
WHETHER THEY ARE THEN GETTING
FUNNELED INTO THE NEW WING FOR,
HOPEFULLY, ENHANCED SHELTER,
WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR
US TO BE BUILDING MORE SHELTER
BUT WOULDN'T ARGUE THAT'S NOT
UPSTREAM AND HELPING PEOPLE GET
OUT OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I AGREE.
I NEVER CHARACTERIZED THESE AS
UPSTREAM.
THESE ARE ALL SEEN AS PRETTY
FAR DOWNSTREAM.
>> I THOUGHT HE HEARD TO SAY
THAT EARLIER.
>> NO.
>> GREAT.
WE AGREE ON THAT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THE
PROBATION PILOT, WHY GO DOWN
THIS ROUTE OF A PROBATION PILOT
INSTEAD OF USING THE COMMUNITY
BASED CASE MANAGERS THAT WE SEE
AND REACH INDIA SEE?
WHY NOT ENHANCE MORE OF THOSE
COMMUNITY-BASED CASE MANAGERS
INSTEAD ?
>> I WANT TO LIMIT HOW FAR I
CAN GO NOT BEING FROM THE
COURT.
I WOULD SAY BUT I THINK WE
HEARD IN SOME OF THE WORKING
GROUPS IS THAT THEY HAVE
INDIVIDUALS WHERE THEY FEEL
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A NO RELEASE
OPTION WHERE AS NOT BEEN
RELEASED SO MAY FEEL A LITTLE
MORE CONTROL FOR THEIR OWN
PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND OF THEIR
JOB FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN TERMS
OF WHO THEY WANT TO RELEASE OR
NOT THAT IS NEGOTIATING WITH
THEM TO SAY WE NEED SOME
OPTIONS TO FEEL A LITTLE MORE
SECURE.
WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE LOTS
OF UPSTREAM WORK, BUT FOR THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO GET TO THIS
POINT WITH THIS KIND OF RECORD
THIS IS WHAT WE FEEL LIKE WE
NEED BEYOND THAT I CAN'T SPEAK
TO THE INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC SAFETY
CHOICES ON A PARTICULAR CASE ON
ANYTHING.
>> LASTLY. IT MIGHT JUST BE ME
TRYING TO COMPARE VARIOUS
DOCUMENTS, BUT ARE THE ENHANCED
PROBATION PILOT FTES, FOR
EXAMPLE, AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY
NEEDED AT THE MINNESOTA COURT
REFLECTED IN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL COURT BUDGET?
BECAUSE, I'M NOT TRAN05
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT IS THE QUESTION?
>> ENHANCED PROBATION PILOT
CALLS FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY
IN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT.
OUR INITIAL READ IN OUR OFFICE
IS THAT WE DON'T SEE THOSE FTES
AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
REFLECTED IN THE SMC BUDGET.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE A
STAB AT THIS?
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THIS MAY ACTUALLY BE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CLARIFY
SOME OF THE BUDGET MECHANICS
BEHIND THE ENTIRE SUITE OF
INVESTMENTS.
ON THE HIGH BARRIER PROBATION
PILOT MY UNDERSTANDING IS 100,
120,000 IS GENERAL FUND
APPROPRIATION HELD IN FINANCE.
THE $170,000 IS A REVENUE STREAM
THAT IS WITHIN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL COURT WHERE WE HAVE
NOT APPROPRIATED THOSE DOLLARS
EITHER FROM THE MUNI COURT
BUDGET.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS A STATEMENT ABOUT
THE ENTIRE BUCKET OF RESOURCE
THAT WE HAVE USED TO FINANCE
GENERAL.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> SO, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THIS ARRAY OF STRATEGIES IS
AWAITING FURTHER DEVELOPMENT
AND REFINEMENT IN PROPOSALS OF
THE WAY IT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED
HER AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT
APPROPRIATION WITH THE ONE
EXCEPTION THAT THE ENHANCED
SHELTER PILOT, WE COULD NOT
MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
THEY WOULD BE IN FINANCE
GENERAL AND WE WOULD BE
ENTERING IN WITH AN AGREEMENT
WITH COUNTY TO USE THAT WORK.
BUT, OTHERWISE, THE RESOURCES
ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE -- WE
WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A
SECONDARY ORDINANCE TO
APPROPRIATE THEM OUT TO THE
RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS OR TO
INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS.
>> WAS A QUESTION ANSWERED?
>> THERE IS SOME INTENTIONALITY
BEHIND THAT.
THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN EXPOSED TO
THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION
THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT SOME
OF THE OPERATIONAL COMPONENTS
AND IF LIMITATION COMPONENTS OF
EACH OF THE PILOTS IS STILL IN
DEVELOPMENT.
WE OWE YOU AND THE MAYOR MORE
DETAILS WITH REGARD TO HOW SOME
OF THESE COMPONENTS WILL
ACTUALLY BE IMPLEMENTED ON THE
GROUND AND IN PARTICULAR, THE
ENHANCED SHELTER PILOT AT THE
KING COUNTY CORRECTIONAL
FACILITY REQUIRES A SUBSTANTIAL
CAPITAL INVESTMENT WHICH IS
BEING MET BY KING COUNTY.
$2 MILLION OF CITY RESOURCE OF
WHICH A CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT
LIKELY WOULD NOT BE BUILT OUT
IN THE WEST WING UNTIL AT THE
EARLIEST MIDYEAR OF 2020.
IN WHICH CASE, OPERATIONAL
DOLLARS WILL NOT BE NECESSARY
UNTIL LATER.
WE HAVE SOME RUNWAY TO BRING
BACK SOME DETAILS ON HOW WE
INTEND TO EXECUTE SOME OF
THESE.
>> THE OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR
THAT STRATEGY REPRESENT A HALF
YEAR OF OPERATIONS.
>> BEYOND JUST THE COST FOR
THIS, CAN YOU ADVISE US ON HOW,
IF YOU WORKED WITH SOME OF
THESE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, THE
BUDGET FOR JUSTICE AS AN
EXAMPLE, HAVE THEY WEIGHED IN
ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE
ARE REACHING OUT TO THEM AND
ENGAGING THEM AS PART OF THE
PROGRAM DESIGN.
>> I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING
IMPORTANT.
>> YES.
I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE TABLE
AND NOT PART OF THE PROCESS
THAT LED TO THIS SUITE OF
RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I DON'T WANT TO OVER
REPRESENT OR THEIR ENVIRONMENT
INVOLVEMENT MISREPRESENTED IN
THIS CONTEXT.
SO THERE ARE, HOWEVER, IN THE
WORKGROUP, THAT DID NOT INCLUDE
THE ELECTIVES, THAT THERE WERE
REPRESENTATIVES IN THAT ROOM
THAT'S WHERE SOME COMMUNITY-
BASED AND SOME FROM THE DEFENDER
, PUBLIC DEFENDER WORLD?
CORRECT?
>> I WOULD BE IN THE RECORD
THAT THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE
GROUP UNTIL NOW AND JUST
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CONSENSUS
PRODUCT OF ALL THE AGENCIES AND
DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN THE
PROGRAMS, DON'T WANT TO
OVERSTATE THE CASE, EITHER.
>> OF THAT, I THINK SOME OF THE
FOLKS WHOSE BRIDGES BUT IN THE
WORKGROUP PROCESS, REPRESENT THE
PUBLIC DEFENSE SIDE, AND THE
COMMUNITY-BASED SIDE HAVE GONE
ON RECORD OPPOSING SOME OF THE
STRATEGIES.
I WOULD NOT SAY ALL OF THEM,
EITHER, BUT SOME OF THEM, THEY
HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE
PROBATION PIECE AS AN AREA OF
CONCERN.
AND, I THINK THEY ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF THE ENHANCED
SHELTER CONCEPT.
THEY WANT MORE DETAILS AROUND
THE CASE CONFERENCING PILOT TO
UNDERSTAND HOW IT IMPLICATES
PROGRAMS LIKE VITAL IN LEAD AND
HE SURE THAT THERE IS A
MEANINGFUL CONNECTION. I THINK
THAT THEY SIMILARLY HAVE
QUESTIONS AROUND THE RAPID
REENTRY PILOT PROGRAM.
SO I THINK, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS
AN INTENT AND DESIRE TO CREATE
THAT ENGAGEMENT THE WORKER
PROCESS, IT ULTIMATELY WAS NOT
STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT
CONSENSUS WAS REQUIRED, SO
THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION AND THE DIVERSITY OF
OPINION ON THIS PROPOSAL FROM
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
>> TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP?
>> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
PERHAPS IT IS MORE OF A
STATEMENT.
AND, MADAM CHAIR, BE SURE TO
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO
TAKE THIS OFF-LINE OR IF OTHERS
HAVE CLARIFICATION FOR ME, BUT
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME
RECONCILING THE ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION ABOUT THESE ITEMS NOT
BEING IN THE SEATTLE IN THE
CIVIL COURTS BUDGET, BECAUSE
THEY ARE PROPOSED PILOTS AT THIS
POINT AND AGAIN, WANT TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
GONZCEZ SAYS.
ANOTHER McCAULEY FOR DIFFERENT
RESOURCES TO THEIR HEIRS WERE I
HAVE CONCERN.
THAT SET ASIDE, ON PROCESS, WE
HEARD EARLIER IN TERMS OF
COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO IS
GROUSE AND SCOOTER PILOTS AND
RESPONSES THAT SAYS, YOU'RE NOT
PASSED THE LEGISLATION AND THAT
IS WHY IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN
THE BUDGET AND NOW WE HAVE A
QUESTION ABOUT WHERE ARE THE
ITEMS IN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL
COURT BUDGET AND THE ANSWER
WAS, WE ARE STILL DOING A LOT
OF ANALYSIS.
TELL ME HOW THOSE ARE
DIFFERENT.
>> THAT IS A QUESTION OF
RESOURCES VERSUS, AVAILABILITY.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR
YOU THAT WOULD BRING IN REVENUE
FOR THE SCOOTER PILOT, SO WE DO
NOT HAVE AN EXPENDITURE PLAN
THAT IS ASSOCIATE WITH IT
BECAUSE WE CANNOT APPROPRIATE
REVENUE SO WE CANNOT REASONABLY
FORECAST.
WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT WE
HAVE SET ASIDE THESE REVENUES
IN THE BUDGET.
AS AN EXPENDITURE.
THERE HELD IN A FINANCIAL
RESERVE THAT WE CALL FINANCE
GENERAL.
THESE DOLLARS, WHAT IS PROPOSED
IN THE BUDGET IS TO APPROPRIATE
THEM AS A FINANCIAL RESERVE IS
THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
THEIR PREPRINTED THERE.
THEY WOULD NOT BE SPENT FOR ANY
OTHER PURPOSE.
BUT THEY CANNOT BE SPENT BY THE
COURT CURRENTLY, EITHER,
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE
LEGAL AUTHORITY DO SPEND THE
DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING
HELD IN RESERVE.
WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU TO
RELEASE THEM AND MY SUBS IS
THAT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH INDIVIDUAL ITEMS
TO GET A SENSE OF THE FULL
SUITE.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE DEVELOP THE
BUDGET AND DEVELOPED INTO
PRINTING, WE WERE SOLD
DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANTED TO SEE IT MORE SUITE
DEVELOP.
WHAT WAS TRUE, WE WOULD BRING
FORWARD THE AIR OUT OF THE
RESERVE.
THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES
THAT WE ARE SETTING ASIDE
RESOURCES FROM THE REVENUES
THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED AND THEY
WOULD BE AVAILABLE UPON ACTION
ON THE SECONDARY ORDINANCE TO
SPEND IN THE WAY THAT IS
SUGGESTED HERE.
>> SO THESE ARE GENERAL FUND
DOLLARS?
>> THE ONLY EXCEPTION OF, U.S.
OF TECHNICAL QUESTION I WILL
GIVE A TECHNICAL ANSWER.
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE
THESE UNRESTRICTED CAPITAL
DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THE
STREET VACATION.
>> THE SHELTER PILOT?
>> IT IS ACTUALLY GENERAL FUND
BUT TECHNICALLY NOT GENERAL
FUND.
THE 120,000 IS FROM THE TRIAL
COURT PROVEN ACCOUNT WHICH IS A
RESTRICTED ACCOUNT.
MIGHT HAVE TECHNICALLY HAD IT
IN THE GENERAL FUND AND HAS
RESTRICTED USES OF THE COURT IS
PROPOSED THAT IT IS USED FOR
THIS PURPOSE FROM THAT
RESTRICTED SET OF COURT
RESOURCES.
>> I THINK QUESTION
FUNDAMENTALLY, AS I'M HEARING
FROM COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, IS
WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM
AND HAS OF THEM BOOKED YET?
SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO
OVERCOMPLICATE THE RESPONSE TO
THAT.
I THINK MAYBE THE ANSWER IS
THAT IT IS A MIXTURE OF DOLLARS
FROM THE GENERAL FUND, SOME ARE
RESTRICTED FUNDING THROUGH THE
COURT AND SHOULD WE APPROVE
THESE INVESTMENTS, THEN THEY
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, I.E.
LOOKED TO ON THE BOOKS OF A
PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE?
I KNOW THAT I AM SHORTCUTTING
IT IS ARE A LOT OF MONEY ISSUES
THAT YOU'RE DANCING AROUND.
>> ARE NOT COMPLICATED MONEY
ISSUES.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING
ON.'S WANT TO MAKE THE
DISTINCTION THAT THE REASON
FROM THE MORNING IS THAT THESE
ARE RESOURCES IN THE REVENUE
FORECAST THAT WE ARE PROPOSING
TO APPROPRIATE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
PLEASE, LET'S MOVE ON.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> IT AFTERNOON.
THERE ARE A FEW OTHER BUBBLY
SEXY -- BIG SAFETY AND US.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE
LIST. BUT WE THOUGHT THESE ONES
MERITED SPECIFIC HIGHLIGHTING.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE $1 MILLION
THAT OCR IS WORKING TO
DISTRIBUTE REGARDING
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE RELATED
PROGRAMS, THERE IS THE HST LED
PUBLIC SAFETY RFP WHICH IS $4.4
MILLION VIOLENCE PREVENTION
PROGRAM FOCUS ON B,18-B,24 THAT
ARE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM
THE MAYOR BUDGET.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED HERE
ARE THE 2020 BUDGET, I SHOULD
SAY.
IT IS LISTED A FEW OF THE
THINGS THAT WE FELT WORTHY OF
HIGHLIGHTING.
THE FIRST BEING THE ADDITIONAL
EXPENDITURES FOR THE CHOOSE 180
PROGRAM.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE
ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CHOOSE 180
FUNDING COMING OUT OF THE HST
PUBLIC SAFETY RFP AS WELL.
THE MAYOR SPECIFICALLY CALLED
OUT $75,000.
$75,000 ADDITION FOR CHOOSE
180.
WE HOPE THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW
FOR DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF
CLASSES YOUNG ADULT THAT IS
GOING TO ALLOW FOR MONTHLY
OFFERINGS. THE PREDICTION IS
THAT IT WILL BE ABLE TO TOUCH
ABOUT 100 MORE PEOPLE PER YEAR
THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
AND, THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR THE
MAYOR.
WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED, THANKS TO
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ FOR
HIGHLIGHTING THE ISSUE AND THE
GAP CURRENTLY, THERE IS A
DEDICATED OUTREACH POSITION
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FUN FOR
THE SEATTLE LEASE DEPARTMENT.
HOPING TO BUILD OFF OF HER
RESOLUTION REGARDING MURDERED
AND MISSING INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
HAS A COUPLE OF OTHER POSITIONS
SIMILAR TO THIS FOR OTHER
COMMUNITIES. SO WE THOUGHT THAT
IT MADE SENSE AND WAS A VERY
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY FOR SPD TO
START REPAIRING RELATIONSHIPS
AND DOING SOME OUTREACH TO.
WE ARE ALSO HAVING A $100,000
LINE ITEM TO ACCELERATE THE
IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING FOR THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CURRENTLY THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO GET ALL
OF THE OFFICERS THROUGH THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING
CENTER FOR THIS IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING, WHICH IS SOMETHING
THAT WOULD, WITH THE CURRENT
NUMBER OF SLOTS THAT THEY ARE
ALLOTTED, WOULD TAKE YEARS TO
ACCOMPLISH FOR $100,000.
WE CAN BRING IT IN HOUSE AND
GET EVERYONE AT SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT THROUGH IT AND
HOPEFULLY ONE UNDER A YEAR.
WE FELT IT WORTH HIGHLIGHTING
THE BUDGET REALIGNMENT THAT IS
OCCURRING IN THE 2020 BUDGET,
WHICH ESSENTIALLY CREATES THE
COMPLIANCE AND PROFESSIONAL
STANDARDS BUREAU.
IT SORT OF FORMALIZES AND
INSTITUTIONALIZES THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT UNITS, MOST
OF WHICH ARE RELATED TO THE
CONSENT DECREE.
AND, THE IDEA BEING THAT THEY
ARE RELATED TO MAINTAINING THE
CONSENT DECREE IDEALS.
FORMALIZING THAT AND
INSTITUTIONALIZING THAT
MAINTAINS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL
STANDARDS AT THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
>> AND ASK YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
THIS ACCELERATED IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING?
IS THERE SOMEBODY IN HOUSE WHO
IS CONDUCTING THE TRAINING?
ARE YOU BRINGING AN EXPERT
CONSULTANT FROM THE OUTSIDE
HOUSE? HOW'S THAT WERE GOING TO
WORK?
>> IDEAS THAT THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD
CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE
CONTRACTOR WHO IS DOING IT
THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
TRAINING CENTER AND BRING HIM
IN HOUSE TO DO IT AT THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS
WELL.
>> A THAT SAVES US MONEY FROM
GOING DOWN?
IS THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING?
>>> IS IT SAVES US TIME AND
MONEY.
IT GETS ALL OF THE OFFICERS
THROUGH THIS TRAINING YEARS
FASTER THAN IT WOULD OTHERWISE.
SO SPD CAN BE FULLY TRAINED AND
UP TO SPEED ON THAT WITHIN ONE
YEAR VERSUS HAVING TO CYCLE
EVERYONE THROUGH SLOWLY.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
VERY PLEASED TO SEE THIS KIND
OF INVESTMENT.
I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT
TRAINING.
IS THERE WAY TO SORT OF, AS WE
LOOK AT THE TRAINERS WRITING
THE SERVICES, TO HAVE A SAMPLE
FIRST OF SOME OF THE OPTIONS TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE.
THE REASON I SAY THIS IS
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MY
EXPERIENCE, NOT WITH SPD, BUT
WITH MANY MORMONS WHO GO
THROUGH IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING,
EVEN OUR OWN DEPARTMENT, TO
SOME EXTENT IS THAT SOME PEOPLE
GO THROUGH IT AND THERE WAS NO
BUY-IN.
THEY JUST THOUGHT IT WAS NOT AS
EFFECTIVE AND WHAT I WOULD HATE
TO SEE IS THIS KIND OF
INVESTMENT AND A MAVEN GO OVER
FOR US NOT TO KNOW THAT IT WAS
WELL RECEIVED AND EFFECTIVE.
MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO SAMPLE
IT AND GET SOME HONEST
FEEDBACK.
BECAUSE I ASKED FOR ON A
>> FROM A FEW DEPARTMENT OVER
THE LAST MANY YEARS, WHEN I
ASKED FOR THE HONEST FEEDBACK
OR EVEN THE ANONYMOUS FEEDBACK,
SOME PEOPLE SAY, ADDING
ANYTHING OUT OF IT.
I DID NOT THINK IT WAS
EFFECTIVE FOR MY NEEDS.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS
EFFECTIVE TRAINING.
>> ABSOLUTE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS
IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AT THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING
CENTER SO THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
EASILY ACCOMPLISH.
>> ARE WE PUT A POSITION WHERE
EVEN IF IT IS ANONYMOUS
FEEDBACK, FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, I
LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF
AND MY BEHAVIOR IN THIS?
ARE WE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK?
WAS JUST ANOTHER BOXER HAVE TO
CHECK?
>> I'M CERTAIN THAT IS
SOMETHING WE CAN TRACK DOWN.
OR WE CAN CREATE IT IF WE NEED
TO.
>> I THINK IT IS CRITICAL FOR
THE SUCCESS OF THIS KIND OF
TRAINING.
>> IF I MAY JUMP IN.
ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
OFFICES WHEN THEY ATTEND
TRAINING IS TO COMPLETE AN
EVALUATION AT THE END OF THE
TRAINING WHICH THEN SATISFIES
THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE
COMPLETED IT.
IT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF IT.
SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE WITH
THERE ACTUALLY GETTING OUT OF
IT.
>> THAT IS GOOD.
BUT I READ THE GUARDIAN AND I
READ BLOGS AND I READ COMMENTS
FROM EVERYONE AND I JUST WANT
TO GET GOOD FEEDBACK. SO, JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOP
BACK TO MAKE SURE.
AGAIN MADE THE POINT THAT
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WHEN WE COMPLETE THE TRAINING,
THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> GREAT.
WE ALSO SOMEBODY NEW AT THE
TABLE.
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF
? I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR
QUESTION OR TWO OR RESPONSE
THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER.
>> I THOUGHT I COULD CLARIFY A
FEW THINGS FROM THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I AM ADAM EISENBERG. AND,
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA TALKED A
LOT ABOUT WHY WE INVEST IN
PROBATION.
FIRST OF ALL, IN SEATTLE
ISCIBLE CORE, 72% OF THE FOLKS
THAT WE HAVE ON PROBATION ARE
NOT PART OF THAT GROUP.
THEY COMMIT VIOLENT CRIMES THAT
ARE NOT DEBATABLE TO A REACH
PROGRAM.
WE WORK WITH LEAD AND WE WORK
WITH REACH ON CASES EVERYDAY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LEAD
CALENDAR CASES ARE REFERRED.
SO IF A OFFICER TAKE SOMEONE TO
LEAD OUT OF THE GATE, THEY DO
NOT COME TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.
WE SUPPORT THAT TOTALLY.
SOMETIMES AND UP IN SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL COURT BECAUSE I GOT
ARRESTED AND DID NOT GO TO LEAD
AND THAT WE HAVE A LEAD
CALENDAR TO WORK WITH LEAD OR
REACH.
WITH OUR FOLKS THAT WE SEE AND
IT IS A VERY SMALL POPULATION.
I THINK IT IS 3% AS A NUMBER OF
FOLKS WHO ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN LEAD
OR REACH AND SO, AS A JUDGE,
SPECIAL IF THERE'S A COMMUNITY
SAFETY ISSUE INVOLVED, MAYBE
THEY COMMIT RELATIVELY RANDOM
ASSAULTS OR PROPERTIES AND
INSTRUCTION THE DON'T RISE THE
LEVEL OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CASES, OR WHATEVER, WE ARE
STOCK.
THE ENHANCED PROBATION IDEA IS
TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH WRAPAROUND
AS POSSIBLE.
THE IDEA OF HAVING PROBATION
COUNSELORS GO OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY MEET PEOPLE THERE IS
A WONDERFUL NEW IDEA TO
EXPLORE.
HAVING THEM BE EDUCATED AND
TRAINED SPECIFICALLY AND
MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT IS
ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY
EXCITED TO EXPLORE.
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
A SMALL POPULATION OF FOLKS
THAT ARE THE HIGH BARRIER
FOLKS.
THEY HAVE ALREADY NOT BEEN
SUCCESSFUL IN LEAD.
THEY'VE NOT BEEN ACCESSIBLE AND
REACH.
THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT REQUIRE
INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT.
SO, IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE WE HAVE
SOMEONE WHO IS A REPEAT
OFFENDER WHO IS IN PORT, THIS
IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO JAIL.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE SORT OF
ALTERNATIVE, AND OBVIOUSLY, IT
IS AN EXPERIMENT TO SEE HOW
WELL IT WORKS, THAT LEAVES THE
JUDGE IN A VERY DIFFICULT
POSITION.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A
RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP OF THE
LARGER POOL THAT WE SEE.
>> DO HAVE THE NUMBERS?
>> ONE OF THE NUMBERS?
>> WE LOOKED IN THE COURT, WE
LOOKED AT IT TO TRY TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS, PEOPLE
WHO HAD SEVEN MORE CASES IN THE
LAST TWO YEARS AND THAT WAS 160
INDIVIDUALS AND THEN IN A GIVEN
CASE YEAR, ABOUT 6000
INDIVIDUALS COME TO THE COURT.
SODAS 12,000 PER YEAR.
168 OUT OF 12,000.
IT IS A TINY PERCENTAGE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, YOU
HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIND
STATISTIC I HAVE.
I WILL COME BACK TO THE FEARS
ON THE TOPIC.
THANK YOU.
>> IF I CAN ADD SOMETHING HERE,
I THINK PART OF THE STRUGGLE
HERE IS THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT DESIGNING A SUPERVISION
PROGRAM FOR 168 PEOPLE, RIGHT?
THAT IS WHAT I JUST HEARD.
EFFECTIVELY.
BUT IT IS ALSO THE HARDEST TO
SERVE POPULATION.
THE SOMETIMES MOST RESISTANT TO
SERVICES AND THE ONE WHO MOST
FREQUENTLY COME IN CONTACT WITH
OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BUT
WE ARE RESORTING TO A
SUPERVISION SYSTEM. I JUST FEEL
LIKE WE ARE OVERSELLING THIS AS
THOUGH IT IS MEANINGFUL TO
MODIFIED THEIR BEHAVIOR.
NOT SURE THAT I AM CONVINCED
THAT THAT THEORY IS GOING TO
HOLD TRUE OR DOES HOLD TRUE
BASED ON THE REALITIES OF THE
POPULATION AND THE COMPLEXITIES
OF THE POPULATION AND SORT OF
THE REALITIES OF HOW PROBATION
WORKS.
PROBATION IS STILL -- IT IS NOT
AS BLUNT OF A TOOL AS JAIL OR
INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT, BUT IT IS
STILL A PRETTY BLUNT INSTRUMENT
IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THE
NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT
OF COMPLEX ISSUES THAT THEY'RE
DEALING WITH.
SOMETIMES IT IS MENTAL HEALTH
ILLNESS COMBINED WITH CHEMICAL
OR SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES WITH
ONGOING CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUES
WITH LACK OF HOUSING, WITH NO
SUPPORT SYSTEMS.
IT IS VERY COMPLICATED.
AGAIN, I'M NOT WILLING TO GO
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER YET, BUT I
HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT
SPENDING MONEY ON A PILOT
PROJECT TO SUPPORT A TOOL THAT
I AM NOT CONVINCED IS GOING TO
HAVE THE ACTUAL OUTCOMES THAT
WE ARE PURSUING.
SO, I AM GOING TO KEEP LOOKING
AT THE LITERATURE THAT I HAVE
AND INCLUDING SOME STUFF THAT I
HAVE SEEN FROM THE FEDS AROUND
THIS TYPE OF ISSUE, BUT I
REALLY THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY
CRITICAL AND THINK VERY CLEARLY
ABOUT HOW THIS TOOL IS
MEANINGFULLY GOING TO PRODUCE
POSITIVE RESULTS OF FOR THIS
POPULATION IN PARTICULAR.
>>> THAT I JUST RESPOND TO THAT?
>> PLEASE DO, JUDGE.
>> AGAIN, WERE TALK ABOUT FOLKS
WHO DON'T RESPOND TO LEAD AND
DON'T RESPOND TO REACH AND
THERE ARE FOLKS OUT THERE WHO
DON'T.
WE KNOW THEY DON'T RESPOND
SUCCESSFULLY BECAUSE IN THE
BACK OF THE COURT SYSTEM.
>> WHEN YOU SAY LEAD, DO YOU
MEAN VITAL?
>> WHEN YOU SAY REACH, DO MEAN
VITAL?
>> THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO US AT
VARIOUS DIFFERENT LEVELS.
THESE ARE POSTCONVICTION CASES
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, IN MY MIND, IT MEANS THAT
THEY WERE REFERRED TO LEAD OR
VITAL OR REACH.
A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE
THEY SOMETIMES BLEND TOGETHER
IN TERMS OF WHO DOES EXACTLY
WHAT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
ARE DEALING WITH FOLKS THAT
DON'T RESPOND BECAUSE THEY KEEP
GETTING ARRESTED ON NEW
CHARGES.
TRYING TO COME UP WITH A
MECHANISM.
AGAIN, IF THEY ARE CONVICTED OF
A CHARGE, IS THERE AN
ADDITIONAL TOOL THAT THE JUDGES
CAN USE?
IF WE DO NOT HAVE A TOOL WHERE
WE COULD GO OUT AND HAVE
PROBATION COUNSELORS MEET THEM
IN THE COMMUNITY, JAIL TENDS TO
BE THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE THAT WE
HAVE.
SO HOLDING ANYONE IN JAIL
VERSUS NOT HIS ARTICLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT FEDERAL STUDIES,
YOU TALK ABOUT PRISON
POPULATIONS.
LOOK AT CERTAIN STATES, THEIR
PRIVATIZED PRINT PRISON
SYSTEMS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A HERE.
WE ARE TRYING TO JAIL
POPULATION IN THE CITY.
THERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
VARIABLES OUT THERE.
OUR NUMBERS EACH YEAR OF THE
PEOPLE WE ACTUALLY HOLD IN JAIL
IN SEATTLE SUPPORT GO DOWN.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT THAT
ALLOWS US OTHER OPTIONS.
LIKE ELECTRONIC HOME MONITORING
OR DAY REPORTING ARE JUST
GETTING THEM INTO TREATMENT.
SOMETIMES WERE JUST REFERRING
THEM TO THE COURT RECESS CENTER
AND THAT IS A DOING.
THERE A LOT OF THINGS.
THERE SUCH A SPECTRUM OF
DIVERSITY IN THE CASES THAT WE
SEE.
WE HAVE OVER 10,000 CASES FILED
EVERY YEAR SO YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT A VERY SMALL SELECT GROUP
OF FOLKS WHO ARE TRULY THE HIGH
BARRIER INDIVIDUALS.
SO, THIS TOOL IS ONE THAT
HOPEFULLY WILL BE MORE EFFECTIVE
. IF IT PROVES NOT TO BE
EFFECTIVE, THEN OBVIOUSLY HAVE
TO INVEST GATHER THINGS, BUT
THE LEAD PROGRAM, THE VITAL
PROGRAM, THESE ARE VERY
VALUABLE PROGRAMS.
FOR THE DV CASES, WE ARE DOING
THE DV IP PROGRAM.
FOR DUI PROGRAMS, THEIR STATE-
MANDATED TO DO TREATMENT.
THERE IS A HUGE SPECTRUM OF
FOLKS A C AND ALL OF THAT IS
REFLECTED IN THE DIFFERENT
SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS
JUDGES HAVE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DO HEAR THAT THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE BUT ARE
POSTCONVICTION AND PRE-
CONVICTION OR DIVERSION AND I
KNOW YOU BEEN ASKING ABOUT
THAT.
THINK THERE IS MERIT HERE IN
FOCUSING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE
AND ALSO NOT CALLING IT
PROBATION.
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TALKING
PROBATION IN THE STANDARD SORT
OF WAY THAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.
IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.
IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND
NEW.
AND IF WE ARE NOT INVESTING IN
IMMEDIATELY ON GENDER REFERS, I
WAS JUST A SPEND THE TIME AND
HAVE A COMMUNITY WORKING
TOGETHER AND RECOGNIZING THAT
YOU NEED MORE TOOLS AND I DON'T
WANT PEOPLE IN JAIL, EITHER,
WITHOUT HAVING THE KIND OF
TREATMENT THEY NEED AND YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER
THAN JAIL.
THIS IS POST CONVICTION.
I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US AND
CAN TELL BY WHAT IS COMING IN
THE NEXT FEW WEEKS THAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE
BIT MORE TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.
>> I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> SO, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO
VITAL.
VITAL SERVES FOLKS WHO HAVE, IT
IS BASICALLY THE SAME
POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT WERE
STUDIED UNDER THE PROLIFIC
OFFENDER REPORT.
THEY HAVE BEEN ARRESTED I THINK
MORE THAN FOUR TIMES IN A 12
MONTH PERIOD.
THERE ARE 60 PEOPLE ON THAT
CASELOAD.
SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN
POSSIBLY KNOW THAT OF THE
UNSERVED POPULATION OF PEOPLE
WHO MEET THIS DEFINITION, THAT
THEY WOULD NOT RESPOND TO A
PROGRAM LIKE VITAL WHEN VITAL
CURRENTLY IS ONLY SERVING A
FRACTION OF THE ELIGIBLE
POPULATION.
AND, OF THE PEOPLE WHO DO
RECEIVE VITAL SERVICES, WE KNOW
THAT 78% OF VITAL CLIENTS ARE
BOOKED INTO JAIL LESS OFTEN
AFTER ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM.
AND WE KNOW THAT BUT SEE, AS
COMPARED TO THE THREE YEARS
BEFORE THE ENROLLMENT, TYPICAL
CLIENT HAD TWO FEWER BOOKINGS
IN KING COUNTY JAIL COMPARED TO
THE THREE YEARS BEFORE ENDING
THE PROGRAM.
SO UNLESS WE ARE ABLE TO SCREEN
AND ENROLL ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE
POPULATION, AND MAKE SOME SORT
OF DETERMINATION THAT THOSE
FOLKS AREN'T SUCCESSFUL, I
DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY
BE MAKING THE CLAIM THAT THIS
POPULATION OF PEOPLE WOULD NOT
RESPOND WELL TO A PROGRAM LIKE
VITAL.
>> WELL, JUDGE IN OUR COURT HAS
A VITAL CALENDAR.
HE WORKS OF THE POPULATION ALL
THE TIME.
I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON THAT, BUT
HE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT,
BUT AT THE POINT THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN THROUGH VITAL AND ARE
STILL IN THE COURT SYSTEM, THAT
IS A GROUP WE ARE TRYING TO
ADDRESS.
THOSE FOLKS DO EXIST.
THERE IS A THRESHOLD WHERE
THERE'S A POINT WHERE PEOPLE
ARE, UNFORTUNATE, NOT
SUCCESSFUL.
IF WE CAN GET THEM TO REACH OR
VITAL, WE TRY TO DO THAT.
BUT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE
ULTIMATELY NOT SUCCESSFUL.
>> YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 22% OF
THE 100% OF VITAL CASES.
SO 70% OF THEM ARE SEEING
POSITIVE OUTCOMES.
22% ARE NOT.
RATHER THAN TRYING TO EXPAND
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVED BY
THIS VERY USEFUL PROGRAM, WE
ARE TRYING TO DESIGN A PROGRAM
FOR THE SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO DO NOT RESPOND WELL TO THE
PROGRAM.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A
LIFELINE JUDGE IN LOOKING OVER
YOUR SHOULDER?
>> YES, JUDGE SHADID WORKS WITH
THAT CALENDAR AND I WOULD LIKE
TO DEFER TO HIM.
>> JUDGE SHADID, PLEASE.
WELCOME.
>> IS THIS MICROPHONE ON?
>> IT IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
IF I HAD MY CHOICE, I WOULD
LIKE WERE PEOPLE TO RECEIVE
THESE SERVICES.
AND I SIMPLY, AS A JUDGE IN THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, DO NOT
SEE A CONFLICT BETWEEN WHAT IS
BEING PROPOSED HERE AND LEAD
AND VITAL.
I SUPPORT THOSE PROGRAMS.
WHAT THOSE CASE MANAGERS ARE
DOING IN THE COMMUNITY IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPLACE
AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
ANYONE CAN REPLACE.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE
WHO ARE REPEATEDLY COMING
THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND THEY ARE POSING A
COMMUNITY SAFETY THREAT, WE
HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF BOTH
SERVING THEIR NEEDS, BUT ALSO
SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE
COMMUNITY AND KEEP THE
COMMUNITY SAFE.
THERE ARE LARGE IMPACTS THAT
THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CAUSING
ON THE COMMUNITY.
IF THEY ARE RECEIVING SERVICES
IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY ARE
RESPONDING WELL TO THAT, THEN
THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE WAY WE
SHOULD BE HANDLING THOSE CASES.
WHEN THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING
WELL TO THAT, WE DO HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AS WELL AS THE NEEDS OF THE
INDIVIDUAL, AND WHAT WE ARE
ASKING FOR HERE IS FOR A TOOL
TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT.
NOW WHAT COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ
SAYS, I ALSO AGREE WITH.
THAT, HOW DO WE EFFECTIVELY GET
THROUGH TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE
PROVEN DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH
IN THE PAST?
WHO HAVE, IN MY LEAD AND VITAL
CALENDAR, MANY TIMES THE CITY
PROSECUTOR WAS SAY I HAVE NO
MITIGATION TO OFFER YOU, BASED
UPON THE SERVICES IN THE
COMMUNITY.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I AM
UNWILLING TO GIVE UP ON THOSE
PEOPLE.
AND, WHEN COMMUNITY SAFETY IS
AT SUCH A LARGE RISK, AND THE
ONLY OPTION IS TO TAKE THEM OFF
OF THE STREETS, THAT IS NOT
SOMETHING I WANT TO DO.
AND SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS
AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY
CLEAR THAT SEATTLE MUNICIPAL
COURT AND MYSELF, ESPECIALLY,
SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS AND I
HOPE THAT THEY HAVE EVEN MORE
SUCCESS AND MORE FUNDING IN THE
FUTURE.
THESE ARE NOT EATING BUDGET
REQUESTS.
>> IN A WORLD OF FINITE
DOLLARS, WE HAVE TO MAKE A
DECISION BASED ON WHAT WILL
HAVE THE GREATEST, I THINK
IMPACT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE WHERE
YOU'RE COMING FROM AND THE
SENTIMENT OF WANTING TO SERVE
AS MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE HIGH
BARRIER AS POSSIBLE. I SURE
THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU BOTH OF YOU FOR
COMING.
I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN.
>> JUST ONE CLARIFYING
QUESTION.
YOU MENTIONED THE PEOPLE, BY
THE TIME THEY GET TO THIS POINT,
HAVE, LEAD HAS NOT WORKED FOR
THEM.
I WANT CLARITY.
THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN LEAD
AND IT DID NOT WORK, OR IS IT
AN ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE HER
AT THIS POINT, I AM ASSUMING
THAT LEE DID NOT WORK?
>> IT DEPENDS.
LEAD IS A VERY FLUID PROGRAM.
WITH LEAVE, ONCE YOU ARE IN
LEAD, YOU'RE ALWAYS A. YOU
CANNOT FLUNK OUT OF LEAD.
UNLESS THE PERSON JUST LET OUT
SAYS I AM NOT GOING TO ENGAGE
WITH PEOPLE ANYMORE AND WALKS
AWAY.
SO THE MORE ACCURATE WAY OF
PUTTING IT WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE ENGAGED WITH THE PROGRAM
IN A MEANINGFUL WAY VERSUS
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT ENGAGED THE
PROGRAM IN A MEETING AWAY.
SO, THAT WOULD BE PERHAPS SOME
OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD BE,
THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO
FILE THE CASES WITH THEIR CASES
ARE HAPPENING OVER AND OVER
AGAIN AND, AT THIS POINT, THEY
ARE NOT RESPONDING WELL TO ANY
OF THE CBO COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN REFERRED TO.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
CLARITY.
COLLEAGUES, KNOW NEXT WEDNESDAY
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS AT LEAD.
MY UNDERSTANDING WITH SOME OF
THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS,
FIRST, WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
EVERY PROGRAM DOES NOT WORK FOR
EVERYBODY AND WE HAVE THE
CERTAIN PROGRAMS LIKELY THAT WE
HOLD UP AS ONE OF THE BEST
EXAMPLES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN
IT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE FOR
EVERYBODY OUT THERE.
HAVING MULTIPLE TOOLS, I
APPRECIATE THAT REQUEST.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH
LEAD IS THAT ON THE GOOD SIDE,
MORE MORE POLICE OFFICERS ARE
TRAINED IN IT AND SEEING THE
BENEFITS AND WANT TO REFER
FOLKS TO THE PROGRAM.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS NOT
ENOUGH CAPACITY TO KEEP UP WITH
THE REFERRALS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
CURRENT CASELOAD OF THE FOLKS
MANAGING THOSE POPULATIONS IS
THAT IT IS PROBABLY BEYOND THE
OUTER BOUNDS OF WHAT SOMEONE
CAN REASONABLY DO AND MAINTAIN
THE QUALITY OF THE PROGRAM THEY
WANT.
I THINK AS WE WORK THROUGH
THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS AM
GOING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IS
AS WE PUT RESOURCES IN
DIFFERENT PLACES, HOW DO WE
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH
RESOURCES FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT
WE KNOW WORK? HOW DO WE HAVE A
VARIETY OF RESOURCES?
WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE ONES.
I HEAR THAT THERE IS A
CHALLENGE THAT AS WE GET MORE
MORE REFERRALS TO LEAD, FOR NOT
BOOSTING THE PROGRAM, WE ARE
SETTING UP FOR FAILURE BECAUSE
INSTEAD OF GETTING THE IN DEPTH
CASE MANAGEMENT TO THAT THESE
PEOPLE REQUIRE, WE ARE GOING TO
SPREAD THE CASE MANAGERS SO
THIN THAT WE WILL SEE MORE AND
MORE PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE MAY
HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL START TO
FAIL AS WELL.
AND THAT IS JUST AN OVERALL
RESOURCE PROBLEM.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY,
COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN, JUST
ARTICULATELY SUMMARIZE WHAT THE
PROBLEM IS.
THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WORK,
THIS IS A POINT THAT YOU
BROUGHT UP EARLIER,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, ARE
FULL.
I'M HEARING THAT THERE IS A
REAL CAPACITY PROBLEM FOR THE
THINGS THAT WORK AND WE WANT TO
DO THAT AND I ALSO WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE, BOTH JUDGE
EISENBERG AND JUDGE 24.
AND I ALSO REALIZE THAT
SOMETIMES ALL OF THESE GOOD
THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH DON'T WORK FOR
EVERYBODY.
AND YOU ARE SAYING, I DON'T
WANT TO JUST JAIL PEOPLE.
WANT TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THAT
AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND
SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE END UP
HERE.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A
REAL COMMITMENT APPEAR ON THIS
DAIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT
WORKS IS FUNDED AND WHAT MAY BE
GIVING SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE
DON'T KNOW A TRY.
SO, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS?
>> ALL OF THE JUDGES ON THE
COURT WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET
AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND
CLARIFY ANYTHING OF THE
COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD LIKE US
TO.
>> RAY.
LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER QUESTION.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A
RUSSIAN BUT I THINK IT WOULD
GET ON IT BOXLA BUT THEN HANG
IT UP UNTIL THE NEXT DEPARTMENT
COMES UP AND THAT I WILL GET ON
A SOAPBOX THEN, BUT I GUESS MY
STRUGGLE IN THIS CONVERSATION IS
THAT WE ARE SOMEHOW CREATING
SOME SORT, OR ATTEMPTING TO
CREATE SOME SORT OF DIFFERENCE
TO THE CONCEPT OF MASS
INCARCERATION AND MASS
SUPERVISION, WHICH ULTIMATELY,
FOR A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS,
REGRETTABLY, CAN LEAD TO A LOOP
BACK TO JAIL.
AND, I THINK THAT IS A REAL
CONCERN.
IT IS A REAL THREAT.
IT IS A REAL RISK IF THIS MODEL
IS NOT AS TARGETED AND SPECIFIC
AND UTILIZED AS A SCALPEL, AS
OPPOSED TO A HAMMER ON THESE
168 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE BELIEVE
ARE GOING TO BE UTILIZER'S OF
THIS SYSTEM.
SO, WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE
THIS ISSUE, I WANT TO BE REALLY
COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THIS
IS NOT NECESSARILY BEING
PROPOSED AS A TOOL TO PREVENT
PEOPLE FROM EVER GOING TO JAIL.
IT IS EFFECTIVELY HOPEFULLY
PREVENT THEM FROM GOING BACK TO
JAIL NOW.
AND I JUST WORRY ABOUT SETTING
UP A NARRATIVE WHERE WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE TRYING TO
CREATE SOME SORT OF DISTINCTION
BETWEEN THE REALITIES OF THE
FACT THAT A LOT OF TIMES,
SUPERVISION DOES RESULT IN
PEOPLE ULTIMATELY GOING TO
JAIL.
AND I JUST PULLED UP AN ARTICLE
THAT I READ RECENTLY THAT IS
POSTED ON NEXT CITY AND I
WANTED TO SHARE WHAT THIS
PARTICULAR PIECE SAYS FROM A
RECENT INITIATIVE JUST LAUNCHED
THIS YEAR ON REALLY HOLDING
LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
ACCOUNT FOR REFORMING THE
PROBATION AND PAROLE SYSTEMS
THAT WE CONTROL AT THE CITY
LEVEL.
NOT TALKING ABOUT PRISONS.
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE KING
COUNTY JAIL, AND TALK ABOUT THE
THINGS WE CAN CONTROL.
THIS ARTICLE READS, AND THIS
OCCURRED IN A PRESS CONFERENCE,
SAYS ANNOUNCED DURING A PRESS
CONFERENCE ON MONDAY, EXIT IS
FOCUSING ON THE ROLE THAT
PROBATION AND PAROLE PLAN TWO
OF THE LARGEST DRIVERS OF
INCARCERATION IN THE U.S.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THERE CURRENTLY OR .5 MILLION
PEOPLE ON PROBATION OR PAROLE.
MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY AS A
2.2 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE
INCARCERATED.
CONSTITUTING AND NEARLY
FOURFOLD INCREASE SINCE 1980.
IN 2017, 1 IN EVERY FORMAT
PEOPLE ENTERED REASONS DID SO
BECAUSE OF NONCRIMINAL
TECHNICAL SUPERVISION
VIOLATIONS AT A COST OF $2.8
BILLION TO OUR OVERALL SYSTEM.
LIFE AND LIKE INCARCERATION,
THEY'RE MOSTLY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
ONE OF 55 AMERICANS OVERALL ARE
IN THE MASS SUPERVISION SYSTEM,
1 IN 23 BLACK PEOPLE ARE ON
PROBATION OR PAROLE.
LIKE BEING COURSE RATION
SYSTEM, MASS SUPERVISION HAS
BEEN PRIVATIZED. THESE
COMPANIES WORK FOR COUNTIES AND
OTHER JURISDICTIONS FOR FREE,
BUT MAKE MONEY BY CHARGING
PEOPLE ON PAROLE AND PROBATION
FOR SUPERVISION AND OTHER ITEMS
LIKE DRUG CONTROL.
>> IT MEANS A AND INABILITY TO
PAY IS A TICKET BACK TO PRISON.
MANY OF THEM ARE TAKING PLACE
IN INNER CITIES.
AND THE ARTICLE GOES ON TO TALK
ABOUT HOW THIS SYSTEM IS
FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN.
SO I JUST REALLY WORRIED THAT
WE ARE CHARACTERIZING THIS AS A
TOOL TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL,
WHEN IN REALITY, WHAT ALL OF
THE DATA AND THE STATISTICS
HAVE BEEN TELLING US IS THAT
SYSTEM IS A DELAY FOR JAIL, BUT
DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY STAVE
OFF THE POSSIBILITY OF JAIL FOR
MOST PEOPLE.
I'M REALLY WORRIED THAT IF WE
GO DOWN THIS DIRECTION, WE ARE
GOING TO END UP DOUBLING DOWN
AND INVESTING IN THIS MASS
SUPERVISION SYSTEM WHICH, WE
SHOULDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THE
FACT THAT IT IS STILL A
PUNITIVE SUPERVISED SYSTEM.
>> SO COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ
CAN WE TALK WITH US.
>> WE USE THE HARM REDUCTION
MODEL ALL THE TIME, EVEN IN
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES.
JAIL IS NOT THE OUTCOME.
YOU KNOW, THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
INTERVENTION PROJECT YOUNG MAN
WHO ENTERS IT, HE VIOLATES THE
NO CONTACT ORDER HE IS FOUND
GUILTY OF A. WE DO NOT REMOVE
HIM FROM THE PROGRAM ARE GIVEN
JAIL TIME.
WE WANTED TO GIVE HIM AN
OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM THE
PROGRAM.
THERE 70 DIFFERENT SHADES OF
GRAY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
COURTROOM, PARTICULARLY WHEN
PEOPLE ARE IN VIOLATING THEIR
PROBATION CONDITIONS.
COULD BE THAT THEY DIDN'T GO
TODAY REPORTING OR POSITIVE UA.
THERE 70 DIFFERENT SHADES OF
GRAD HOW WE RESPOND TO A. IF
YOU'RE DRUG AND ALCOHOL
TREATMENT AND NOT SPECIFIC OR
DO OPIOIDS THAT HE SMOKED
MARIJUANA.
HARM REDUCTION WOULD SAY, I
CANNOT TELL YOU THAT YOU SMOKE
MARIJUANA, BECAUSE YOU ARE
SUPPOSED ABSTAIN.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PENALIZE
YOU.
YOU NEED TO WORK ON TRYING TO
REDUCE IT.
THERE'S ONLY PROBATION HEARINGS
WERE THE CONSEQUENCES NOT JAIL
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE ENHANCED
PROBATION IS GOING TO BE EVEN
MORE HARM REDUCTION FOCUS.
THE POINT IS YOUR GIVING THESE
PEOPLE STRUCTURE.
AGAIN, IT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO
HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN
OTHER MODELS MAYBE THEY CAN BE
REFERRED, BUT IF THERE AT THE
COURT POSTCONVICTION, WE ARE
ALREADY SORT OF BEYOND THAT
POINT, SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT
IF YOU ACTUALLY CAME AND SAW
HOW THE JUDGES IN 2019 AND HOW
THE PROBATION COUNSELORS ARE
DEALING WITH THESE CASES, THINK
YOU WOULD FIND THAT WE ARE
TAKING THOSE ISSUES AND THOSE
CONCERNS, WHICH ARE VERY VALID
CONCERNS, VERY SERIOUSLY AND
EVERY DECISION WE MAKE AS TO
WHETHER TO RELEASE HIM, TO SOME
THE BACK TO JAIL, OR TO SAY,
MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY THE LIFE
SKILLS CLASS LIST TRY THAT.
SO, IT IS A VERY BROAD
SPECTRUM.
>> AND JUDGE EISENBERG, MY
COMMENTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO
BE PERSONALIZED ON ATTACK OR
CRITIQUE ON EACH INDIVIDUALS
CAPABILITY, CAPACITY, AND
REALITY OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING
EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM THE
BENCH.
I REALLY AM SINCERE THAT I'M
NOT MAKING THESE REMARKS AS A
COMMENT ON THE QUALITY OF THE
WORK THAT JUDICIAL OFFICERS IN
YOUR STAFF ARE DOING EVERY DAY.
I NOTICE HARD WORK.
IN YOUR PUT POSITIONS WE HAVE
TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND IN
SOME CASES, IT COULD FEEL LIKE
YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT
ARE COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO THE
THINGS THAT YOU MORALLY MIGHT
BELIEVE, RIGHT?
BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE
DECISIONS BECAUSE THAT IS WHY
YOU ARE SITTING THERE AND THAT
WAS WHY YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO
THAT JOB.
I RESPECT THAT.
AND I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO
DO HERE, IS THAT I AM TRYING TO
MAKE THIS LESS ABOUT WHAT ARE
YOU CURRENTLY DOING?
IS IT GOOD OR IS IT BAD?
AND I'M CHALLENGING US TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE
TO MOVE THE OVERTON WINDOW AND
TO THINK ABOUT THIS AREA IN A
RADICALLY DIFFERENT WAY.
PROBATION IS SOMETHING WE HAVE
BEEN USING FOR A LONG TIME.
I AGREE.
SOMETIMES IT WORKS.
A LOT OF TIMES IT DOESN'T.
SO NOW, WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS
PATH OF KNOWING THAT AND STILL
WANTING TO CREATE A PROBATION
PROGRAM FOR THE HARDEST TO
SERVE POPULATION IN THE HOPES
THAT IT WILL WORK.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
DETAILS HERE AND A LOT OF
DESIGN MAKING THAT NEEDS TO
OCCUR, BUT I JUST REALLY WANT
TO CHALLENGE US TO THINK
COLLECTIVELY AND TOGETHER ABOUT
HOW WE RADICALLY CHANGE THE WAY
WE THINK ABOUT HOW TO SERVE
THIS POPULATION AND WHETHER OR
NOT MOVING DOWN THE PATH
FURTHER PATH OF EXPANDING
PROBATION SERVICES, IN THE
SPACE, IS THE APPROPRIATE TOOL
TO USE.
I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD
ERADICATE THE WHOLE THING AT
THIS POINT, I AM SAYING THAT I
WORRY THAT IT IS NOT, IT MIGHT
NOT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE TOOL
FOR THIS POPULATION.
THAT IS IT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I WANT TO KNOWLEDGE
COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ WHAT HE
SAID ABOUT US NOT ATTACKING OUR
JUDICIAL COLLEGE BEEN HEARING
SOMETHING LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I'M HEARING THAT YOU'RE SAYING
THAT THE PROBATION DOESN'T WORK
FOR MANY PEOPLE AND THAT YOU
ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING IT SO
IT IS SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO CALL IT
SOMETHING ELSE.
SOMETHING THAT IS HONORABLY
ADDRESSING AND PROVIDING YOU
WITH MORE TOOLS TO BRING
FORWARD TREATMENT THAT MAYBE
YOU DON'T HAVE NOW.
THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SKEPTICISM
APPEAR THAT WE ALL WOULD LIKE
TO BE WORKING WITH YOU TO KNOW
WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND
I'M GOING TO ASK US TO GIVE
OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE
FOR GRACE AND SAY, LET'S HEAR
WHAT IT IS.
YOU COME BACK AND TELL US, OR
WE WILL MEET WITH YOU OVER
ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU TELL US WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE.
I'M HAPPY TO COME MEET WITH YOU
AND TALK WITH YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES, JUST SO WE
UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.
AND, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING AT
THIS POINT? ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS
PROBATION?
OR CAN WE MOVE ON?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING UP TO
THE TABLE, AND THANK YOU, JUDGE
TRAN44 TRAN20 TRAN40 FOR FOR
COME HERE.
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE OVERVIEW
IN ANOTHER THIS AFTERNOON HAVE
BOTH SPD AND SFD AND THEY WILL
CONTINUE SOME OF THE OTHER MORE
DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC BUDGET
INCREMENTAL ADS.
>> GREAT.
SO COLLEGE, I'M GOING TO HAVE A
PROPOSAL HERE.
IT IS NOW 3:44.
SO WE ARE ONE HOUR 45 MINUTES
INTO THIS.
I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT OSCE
BE PUT OVER UNTIL NEXT
WEDNESDAY.
AND DONE A CHECK AND THANK YOU
FOR BEING MY RUNNER AND IF WE
ANNOUNCE THAT TODAY, PULL THE
PLUG ON IT.
LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT OSU
WILL COME AND JOIN US AT THE
END OF NEXT WEDNESDAY.
WE HAVE TWO MAJOR DEPARTMENTS
TO GO, BUT DO WE HEAR ANY
OBJECTIONS TO THAT PLAN?
IMMIGRATE, WHAT IS A THANK YOU,
ALL OF YOU.
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
IT IS SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AFTER SEATTLE POLICE, I WILL
CHECK IN TO SEE IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK OR JUST
KEEP MOVING THROUGH.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY WHO
CAME AND FOR THE CAMEO
APPEARANCE FROM OUR MUNICIPAL
COURT JUDGES.
>> MADAM CHAIR, AS WE
TRANSITION, I AM LOOKING
FORWARD TO THE FUTURE
CONVERSATION AND I PRESENT YOU
HAVE ASKED FOR SPACE TO THINK
THROUGH THESE DETAILS.
THE JUDGE MENTIONED THAT IT
WOULD BE HELPFUL IF HE COULD
SERVE EVERYONE THROUGH REACH,
HE WOULD, AND LUCKIEST, WE GET
TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHERE
THOSE DOLLARS GO IN THE BUDGET.
I WOULD ALSO WANT TO POINT TO
ANOTHER ARTICLE.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD WAS THE FREQUENCY AND
TYPES OF ARREST THAT SOME OF
THE INDIVIDUALS FACE, ANOTHER
ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT EARLIER
THIS YEAR IS TALK KNOW HOW 1 IN
5 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BOOKED
INTO JAIL ARE BOOKED INTO JAIL
BECAUSE OF THE SHEER FACT THAT
THEY ARE HOMELESS, THEY ARE
MORE FREQUENTLY GETTING
ARRESTED, SO, AS WE THINK ABOUT
THE TYPE AND CRIMES THAT THEY
ARE GETTING BOOKED FOR IN THE
FIRST PLACE, IT DOES SEEM LIKE
THE COMMONALITY HERE, WE WANTED
TO REDIRECT OUR FUNDING, WOULD
BE TO HOUSE FOLKS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> I VISIT ONE OF THE EFFORTS
IS TRYING TO CREATE ENHANCED
SHELTERS, BUT WE CAN'T SEPARATE
THE FACT THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS
ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE A RISK OF
BEING ARRESTED BECAUSE WE HAVE
NOT PROVIDED THEM A HOME.
>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT SURVIVAL
CRIMES.
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
ALL RIGHT, SO WELCOME TO THE
TABLE AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU
WHO ARE STAYING.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR BEING
HERE, AND COULD I START WITH
>> CHRIS FISHER, DIRECTOR OF
STRATEGY, IS PRETTY.
>> VERY GOOD.
>> TOM, ARE YOU KICKING THE
PHONE OFF?
>> I CAN KICK IT OFF.
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS A $410 MILLION GENERAL FUND
AGENCIES.
WE HAVE 1400 POLICE OFFICERS
EMPLOYED BY SPD AND ABOUT 2187
FTE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AS A PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCY, IT
IS ABOUT 85% OPERATIONS WITH
THE REMAINING BEING CAPITAL.
TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT OF THE
LAST YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, THERE
HAVE BEEN SOME HIRING AND
RETENTION PROBLEMS.
THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT THAT IN
THE PRIOR PRESENTATION.
THAT SHE WAS GOING TO TALK
ABOUT THAT TODAY.
HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME
OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE
MAYOR IS UNDERTAKING TO ADDRESS
THOSE ISSUES.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER
TO SPD.
>> WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW
THINGS BUT IF THERE QUESTIONS
ON ANYONE OR ANYTHING, PLEASE
LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL DELVE
INTO THOSE AS WELL.
ONE OF THINGS WE WANT TO TALK
ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH IS A FULL
AND EFFECTIVE COMPLIANCE.
>> I'M SORRY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
HERE.
>> I'M SORRY, YOU HAD A GOOD
LOW GOING HERE.
WHY ISN'T THE CHIEF YEAR, WE'VE
HAD EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD HERE.
>> THE CHIEF IS IN TRANSIT
TODAY.
SHE WAS AWAY AT TRAINING, AND
SHE IS RETURNING.
SHE IS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE LION SHARE OF OUR BUDGET
AND WE'VE HAD EVERY DEPARTMENT
HEAD HERE, SO I DO NOT KNOW WHY
SHE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
I DO NOT KNOW WHY THIS IS OUR
ONE TIME TO REVIEW THE BUDGET,
SO THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS YOU
MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE BACK TO HER.
TO SEEMS A LITTLE INEFFICIENT.
OKAY.
>>> CERTAINLY, SIR.
>> OH HAD.
>> LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE FULL
AND EFFECTIVE COMPLIANCE.
OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CONSENT
DECREE, WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN
THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE 10 FOR
10 IN THAT PORTION, CONTINUE
WITH THOSE REPORTS.
THAT, WE ARE WAITING THE JUDGE
ORDER OF THE NEW ISSUE OF
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TO SEE WHAT
WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT PORTION
AS WELL.
BUT TO CONTINUE FUNDING, WHERE
WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT
THE COMPLIANCE BUREAU.
THAT IS OUR HORSE
INVESTIGATIONS TEAM.
THAT IS OUR FORCE REVIEW UNIT.
ALL OF THIS PORTIONS A DEAL
WITH THE CONSENT DECREE TO
SHIFT THE MONEY TO BRING THEM
WHOLE, IF YOU WILL.
>> AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
THE STAFFING SHORTAGES, WE
SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THE HIRING
INCENTIVE ORDINANCE.
THAT HAS BEEN HELPFUL FOR US IN
RETAINING -- NOT RETAIN PEOPLE,
BUT RATHER HIRING PEOPLE. BOTH
LATERAL ENTRIES MOTHER AGENCIES
AND OTHER STATES AND ALSO FOR
NEW HIRES IS.
THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
REPORT WAS PUT OUT AND WE LOOK
EAGERLY TO IMPLEMENT IN MOST OF
THOSE, IF NOT ALL OF THE 12
IDEAS THAT WERE THERE TO HELP
WITH OUR STAFFING SHORTAGES.
THE ME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE,
PLEASE.
>> OBVIOUSLY OUR PRIORITY IS
SERVICE EXCELLENCE AND THAT IS
MAINTAINING OUR SERVICE LEVELS
DESPITE OUR SWORN STAFFING.
AND TO COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ'S
QUESTION, LOOKING AT HOW DO WE
CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL
OF SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC WITH A
REDUCED STAFFING.
SOME OF IT IS WORKING SMARTER
NOT HARDER, BUT ALSO TO AUGMENT
OUR DWINDLING NUMBERS AT THAT
TIME TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE
COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT
ALL TIMES.
WITH THAT, OBVIOUS THE, WE
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS AND
BEING ABLE TO BRING THAT
PROGRAM ONLINE TO DIVERT SOME
OF THOSE CALLS FROM THE 911
OPERATOR RESPONDERS TO THAT
ORGANIZATION SO THAT THEY CAN
TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS AND
ALLEVIATE THE CALLS TO THE 911
CENTER, TO THE SEATTLE FIRED
FROM A, AND OFFICER TO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS
WELL.
WE ARE EAGERLY AWAITING THAT.
HIRING THE NATIVE AMERICAN
LIAISON.
AS WE SAID, WE HAVE SOME OF
THIS POSITIONS ALREADY AND WE
ARE LOOKING TO REPLICATE THAT
TYPE OF THING.
WE ARE SO WORKING THROUGH THE
STUDY OF WHERE NECESSARY AND
WHICH BUREAU THAT THIS PERSON
SHOULD BE HOUSED AND HOW WILL
BE FORMALLY SET UP.
BUT WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL AND
THANKFUL THAT THE NEED WAS
RECOGNIZED WITH US THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE TRIED TO SET THE
NATIONAL STANDARD AND I THINK
COUNCILWOMAN GONZCEZ POINT
OUT EARLIER WITH THE CRISIS
INTEGRATION TRAINING.
LEAVES WAITED NATIONALLY AND
INTERNATIONALLY.
WE'VE HAD FOLKS COMING FROM ALL
SORTS OF COUNTRIES TO LEARN
WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY WE
ARE BEING SO SUCCESSFUL WITH IT
BOTH IN REDUCTION OF CRIME AND
THE REDUCTION OF USE OF FORCE
BY OFFICERS OUT THERE.
SO, WORKING WITH THAT
CONTINUALLY TO HAVE THE MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO BOLSTER
THAT PROGRAM WITH PEOPLE IN
CRISIS AND TO CONTINUE LEADING
THE WAY WITH THAT CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT AND INNOVATION, AS
A CHIEF LIKES TO SAY.
AS WE MOVED TO CONTINUE THE
CONSENT DECREE, THE SUSTAINMENT
PERIOD WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF
LEAVING THE 10 FOR 10
ASSESSMENTS IN JANUARY, AS I
SAID, WE ARE EAGERLY AWAITING
THE JUDGE'S RULINGS IN OTHER
AREAS TO SEE HOW WE PROGRESS
THERE.
AND THEN CONTINUE ON.
WE ARE ALREADY BUILDING IN
SYSTEMS RIGHT NOW WITH THE
OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
AND THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY, AS THESE 10 FOR
10 METRICS START TO PHASE OUT,
HOW DO WE THEN INCORPORATE THEM?
THEY'RE NOT THINGS THAT WE ARE
WILLING TO GIVE UP.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE
LOOKING TO EXPAND AND TO PUT IN
ANNUALLY WITHIN OUR OWN
DEPRTMENTS AS WELL.
WORKING WITH THOSE LEVELS TO
COMPLETE THAT.
I VISIT WITH THE OFFICE OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, ADDING
CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS, TO
BOLSTER THE NUMBERS AND TO
ALLOW FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY
WITHIN THE INVESTIGATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY, OUR HOPEFUL OUTCOMES
WOULD BE IMPROVED PERCEPTIONS
OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT WE
CONTINUE TO FOSTER GREATER
COMMUNITY TRUST.
THE PRIORITY THAT WE WANTED
TOUCH ON IS REDUCING CRIME AND
DISORDER.
THAT IS CONTINUING TO DRIVE
REDUCTIONS IN ALL OF OUR MAJOR
CRIME AREAS.
THE LAST UPDATE I HAD WHEN I
WAS PULLING THE NUMBERS IS THAT
CRIME IS DOWN OVERALL 7% IN THE
CITY AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO
REDUCE THAT CRIME.
WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE WHILE WE
HAVE HAD SOME UPTICKS IN
CERTAIN AREAS, OVERALL, WE ARE
STILL OF VERY SAFE CITY
COMPARED TO ANY CITY OUR SIZE
THAT SERVES THIS TYPE OF
POPULATION AS WELL.
>> CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ALSO KNOW THAT IS NOT THE
PERCEPTION. ALL OF THE DATA
THAT WE HAVE GOT AND WE PUT OUT
THERE, THERE IS STILL A SENSE
THAT CRIME IS GROWING AND I'M
NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHY THAT
PERCEPTION CONTINUES, UNLESS IT
HAPPENS TO YOU, THEN OF COURSE,
IT IS PROBLEMATIC.
BUT I DO WANT TO ASK, WHAT ARE
WE DOING TO GET THIS
úINFORMATION OUT?
MAYBE NOT JUST IN STATISTICS,
BUT IN ACTUAL STORIES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, I
LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF A
NUANCE HERE BECAUSE DID INTO
THE STATE AND MY COMMITTEE
QUITE A BIT AND THANKS TO THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR COMING TO
COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, I
WOULD AGREE THAT THE PERCEPTION
OF CRIMINALITY SEEMS TO BE
PROBABLY MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT
IS REFLECTED IN REALITY, BUT
THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE
CERTAIN AREAS OF CRIME THAT ARE
AND HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE AND I
THINK WHEN YOU SLICE THE DATA
FROM CITYWIDE TO PRECINCTS AND
NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU DO IN FACT,
AND ARE IN FACT, SEEING AN
INCREASE IN CERTAIN TYPES OF
CRIME.
ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HAS NOT
SEEN A DOWNWARD TREND OUR
PHYSICAL ASSAULT, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS,
PROPERTY CRIME IS, IN FACT, UP.
SO I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THAT IS NOT ALL THAT
PERCEPTION, IT IS NOT ALL
FANTASY.
THERE IS SOME REALITY WHEN YOU
SLICE INTO THE DATA AROUND
PUBLIC SAFETY AND IN FACT, THAT
IS EXACTLY WHAT LED TO THE
JUSTIFICATION OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO LAUNCH ADDITIONAL
EMPHASIS PATROLS OVER THE
SPRING AND THE SUMMER, IS
SO, I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO
HEAR YOUR QUESTION,
COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, AS BEING
A DISCOUNT OF SOME PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE AS A PEOPLE MIGHT
HAVE.
IN SOME INSTANCES, IT WILL BE
ADMITTED, BUT THE DATA DOES
SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN CERTAIN
CLASSES OF CRIME.
SO WANTED TO OFFER THAT UP
BEFORE THE CHIEF AND OTHERS AT
THE DEPARTMENT VENTURE TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> E BIKES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT WOULD BE IN THAT PROPERTY
THEFT AREA.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I
ADDED THAT CONTEXT.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNSELING, YOU ARE ABSENT
CORRECT.
DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORING
TYPE OF CRIME, WE HAVE SEEN
INCREASES IN CERTAIN AREAS,
WHICH DID LEAD US DOWN THE PATH
OF DECLARING SOME AREAS
EMPHASIS AREAS AND PUTTING
ADDITIONAL WORK INTO THOSE
AREAS.
WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO WORK
WITH A LOT OF THIS IS THROUGH
OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, THE BLOTTER,
THE TWITTER, AND GETTING
INFORMATION OUT AS WELL AS THE
DASHBOARDS.
WE JUST COMPLETED, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, BY THE WAY,
TRANSITION OF OUR RECORDS
MANAGED TO SYSTEM.
WE WENT AWAY FROM VERSA TERM.
WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS
REBUILDING OUR ABILITY TO PUT
PUBLIC FACING INFORMATION OUT.
SO, WE'VE GOT SOME OF THAT WE
ARE CONTINUING THAT.
WE HOPE TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE
ARE, SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE MORE ACCURATE DATA TO
FOLKS AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS
PROCESS.
AS WELL AS A LOT OF COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, TRYING TO GET THE
WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY
BECAUSE YOUR ABSOLUTE RIGHT,
PERCEPTION LEADS THE WAY A LOT
AND WHEN YOU SEE A PERSON
STANDING ON THE STREET YELLING
WHILE IT IS NOT A CRIMINAL
NATURE, YOU MAY FEEL FEAR.
WE ALL HAVE A VISCERAL RESPONSE
TO THAT, CORRECT?
SO TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT
WE CAN ENHANCE THOSE TYPES OF
INTERACTIONS AND IN SUPPORT
THINGS WITH OUR PUBLIC AS WELL
AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT
AS WE CAN IN ALL AVENUES THAT
WE CAN.
AGAIN, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
PROGRAM AS WELL, WHICH WE THINK
WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL WITH
THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, JUST WANT
TO GIVE COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ
BOTH SOME KUDOS AND AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE
PROPOSAL TO HIRE A NATIVE
AMERICAN LIAISON.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN.
I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
>> YOU HAD A GOOD EXCUSE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A LONG
TIME COMING.
I DID NOT INVENT MISSING
INDIGENOUS GIRLS.
WE KNEW ABOUT THE REPORT, BUT
MORE PORTLY, WE FOUND MOST
STARTLING AND THE STATE LAW IS
THAT SEATTLE WAS NUMBER ONE
CITY WITH MISSING WOMEN AND
GIRLS.
I DO WHEN I WAS A PUBLIC
DEFENDER, WE WILL LOOK AT THE
POLICE REPORTS AND THE CHARGING
DOCUMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY WOULD
EITHER HAVE A I OR A CAPITAL M.
AND THEY WOULD ASK IF WE DO
THIS PERSON.
SO MY POINT IS THIS, WE ARE SO
EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE ARE THE
FIRST CITY IN THE COUNTRY,
ABOUT THE SAME EVERYONE ELSE,
AND MY FRIEND, WHO IS THE
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN MINNESOTA
, GOT TO TALK TO HER LAST WEEK
AND SHE WAS SHOCKED AND
EVERYONE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR
COPIES OF THIS LEGISLATION,
FROM ALASKA DOWN TO NEW MEXICO,
TO MINNESOTA, TO COPY OUR
LEGISLATION, BECAUSE IT HAS
MONEY ATTACHED TO IT AN ACTUAL
PERSON IT IS CULTURALLY ATTUNED
TO WORK WITH NATIVE COMMUNITIES
AND TO LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES
OF WHAT TRIBES HAVE TO OFFER.
WITH THEIR OWN POLICE
DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE,
WHETHER IT IS MISSING, WHETHER
IT IS IDENTIFY, WHETHER IT IS
BRINGING WOMEN AND CHILDREN HOME
AND THAT IS ONE PIECE AND WE
OWE IT TO THE 29 TRIBES IN THIS
DATE HAVE WORKED WITH US ON
THIS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU.
OF COURSE, MY COLLEAGUES HERE.
SO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE
ARE NOTHING BUT EXCITED TO BE
WORKING TO FIND THAT PERSON TO
WORK WITHIN SPD AND MAKE SURE
THAT SEATTLE GETS RID OF THE
DUBIOUS REPUTATIN OF HAVING
THE MOST MISSING AND MURDERED
INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION
ABOUT THAT INVESTMENT.
IS IT INTENDED?
WILL THE LIAISON BE A CIVILIAN
OR A SWORN PERSON?
>> WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE A
SWORN PERSON.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO REACH OUT. I
DON'T WANT TO SAY MORE
EDUCATED, SOMETIMES, BUT PEOPLE
HAVE A GREATER DEGREE OF
EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE WITH
THAT, RATHER THAN FOR ME TO TRY
TO FIND AN EXISTING POLICE
OFFICER THAT I HAVE TO DO IT.
SO, I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER
SERVED THAT WAY.
>> I TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE
DOING, BECAUSE THAT IS A GREAT
QUESTION.
THE PERSON WILL BE A CIVILIAN
PERSON AND WE ARE WORKING WITH
THE HEALTH BOARD WITH THE JOB
DESCRIPTION AND IT WILL BE A
CIVILIAN PERSON AT SPD.
>> THANK YOU.
>> A PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> CERTAINLY.
>> OBVIOUSLY, AS WITH THE
REDUCING CRIME AND DISORDER, WE
WILL TALK ABOUT THE EMPHASIS
AREAS.
AND, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE
COMMUNITY LOUD AND CLEAR THAT
THEY WOULD LIKE THESE EMPHASIS
AREAS TO CONTINUE OR BE
REPLICATED AT DIFFERENT TIMES
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHEN WE SEE
A RISE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT WITH THIS AS WELL IS
THAT WE HAVE A PORTION OF THAT
OR THE OVERTIME.
THESE EMPHASIS AREAS ARE A
MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH TO
ATTACKING THE KIND OF ISSUES
THAT THESE COMMUNITIES FACE
FROM LEVERAGING SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS,
OUR OUTREACH FOLKS, TO REALLY
TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT WHAT IS
THE ISSUE HERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW
THE ACTUAL CRIMINALITY OF THAT
IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE, BUT
THERE'S A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF
THINGS THAT ACTUALLY THE CITY
CAN DO TO REDUCE FEAR, CRIME,
AND DISORDER IN THOSE AREAS.
WE LOOK AS WE MOVED TO GO
FORWARD INTO NEXT SUMMER, WHERE
WE LOOK TO DO MORE OF THESE
THINGS THAT WERE BASED ON
EVIDENCE AND WORKING WITH OUR
PARTNERS TO DO THAT, WHETHER IT
JUST BE CUTTING BRUSH BACK SO
PEOPLE CAN SEE THE STOP SIGNS
OF THE NOT RUN INTO GET INTO AN
ACCIDENT.
I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO
DEPLOY A OFFICER.
PERSON WITH A BRUSH CUTTER
COULD ACHIEVE A BETTER APPROACH
FOR ME.
WORKING HOLISTICALLY, WE HOPE
TO DO THAT.
>> IF I COULD JUST SAY THANK
YOU TO YOUR TEAM.
THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AROUND
úTHE CRESCENT THIS YEAR WHICH
INCLUDES CITY HALL PARK, BUT IT
BECAME A FRIENDLY PLACE AND
WHEREAS BEFORE, PEOPLE WERE
AFRAID OF IT, BECAUSE THERE WAS
NOT THE ACTIVITY OF REALLY
POSITIVE ACTIONS AND THANKS TO
PARKS WORKING WITH YOU, WE MADE
A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT I FEEL
POSITIVE THAT THAT IS THE SAME
MODEL THAT WE SOLVED WITH
OCCIDENTAL AND WITH WESTLAKE.
WE BROUGHT IN BETTER BEHAVIOR
AND MORE ACTIVITY, TABLES AND
CHAIRS.
BUT YOU WERE VISIBLE AS WELL.
I WANT TO THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
AND SAY THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
>> AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
INCREASING THE MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WITH THE
DEPARTMENT, ALLOWING FOR THAT
INTERSECTION OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE,
MENTAL HEALTH, AND CRIME, TO
GIVE US A BETTER TOOL FOR THE
TOOLBOX RATHER TO INTERCEDE WITH
THOSE FOLKS.
AND TO ACTUALLY GAIN RESOURCES
AND HELP FOR THEM THAT IS NOT
INCARCERATION.
AND, ALSO TO ALLEVIATE THAT,
WHILE OUR OFFICERS ARE ACTUALLY
WELL-TRAINED, FOR THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION
TRAINED IS AROUND 80% THAT WE
DEPLOYED ARE FULLY TRAINED.
WE ARE WELL ABOVE THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE AND THE REMAINING
OFFICERS HAVE A MANDATORY EIGHT
HOURS PER YEAR.
WE HAVE ALREADY SURPASSED THAT
40 HOURS FOR EVERYONE WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT.
SO, WE LOOK TO CONTINUE THAT,
BUT EVEN REALIZING WITH THAT
BREADTH OF TRAINING, WE STILL
HAVE LIMITATIONS AND LEANING ON
OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST
US TO COME IN TO DO THIS.
THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WOULD BE
LOOKING FOR, OBVIOUSLY THERE,
IS A REDUCTION IN OUR USE OF
FORCE, OBVIOUSLY WITH PEOPLE IN
CRISIS, REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER
OF CRISIS CALLS AND MORE
STABILITY OUT THERE AS WELL AS
A PERCEPTION, AS YOU POINTED
OUT TO MADAME COUNCILWOMAN OF
WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE WITH
THEM.
>> QUESTIONS?
>> ONE OF THE BENCHMARKS OF ANY
DEPARTMENT IS HONOR AND
PROFESSIONALISM AND ENSURING
THAT IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR
US. OBVIOUSLY, HIRING THE
CORRECT PEOPLE AND HIRING THE
RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, TO
ACUALLY WORK WITHIN THE
POPULATION.
AND, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THAT ARE LEAVING OUR
DEPARTMENTS TO GO TO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
THE NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS ARE
WELL-EARNED AND WE WISH THOSE
FOLKS WELL.
HOWEVER, THE NUMBER OF LATERAL
PEOPLE LEAVING TO OTHER
AGENCIES, WE SAW QUITE A BIG
INCREASE IN THAT AND I WAS WITH
THE CHIEF OF TACOMA POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN DC JUST A FEW
WEEKS AGO AND HE TOLD ME THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, THE BEST TRAINED
OFFICERS I HAVE HAVE COME FROM
SEATTLE.
>> THAT'S NOT NICE.
>> IT WAS VERY HURTFUL.
>> HE IS JUST TROLLING YOUR.
THAT IS NOT VERY NICE.
>> IT IS TRUE.
WE HAVE VERY WELL TRAINED
OFFICERS.
THERE FAR AND BEYOND MOST OF
OUR AGENCIES, BUT, WITH THAT IS
TO RETAIN THOSE OFFICERS TO DO
THAT REALLY GOOD LEVEL OF WORK
HERE IN THE CITY.
SO, AS WE GO FORWARD TO LOOKING
TO IMPLEMENT OUR RECRUITING AND
RETENTION RECOMMENDATIONS, TO
REALLY BOLSTER OUR DEPARTMENT
AND TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL
AS WELL AND THE CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT AND INNOVATION.
HOW ARE WE DOING COMPARED TO
OTHER AGENCIES?
UNDER THE CHIEF OF BELLEVUE
CAME AND SAID THAT THEY WERE
FULL AND IN NEED ANYONE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE
ARE OVERFULL.
WE WANT PEOPLE WAITING.
THAT IS OUR HOPE TO GET THERE
WITH THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, OUR OUTCOME IS
REALIZING THE NECK INCREASE IN
OUR SWORN WORKFORCE.
EARLIER OF THIS QUESTION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HARRELL HAS A
QUESTION.
>> IT IS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
STRATEGIC PARTIES, THEY IDENTIFY
THE CONTINUING COMMITMENT TO RS
JI AND THIS IS ONE OF THE
STRATEGIC PARTIES, BUT MY
QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE
HIRING, GIVEN THE FACT THAT I
200 WAS CHANGED IN THE STATE
LEGISLATURE, GIVES US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO STRATEGICALLY
TARGET DIVERSE CANDIDATES.
IS THIS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES
AND HOW MIGHT, HOW MIGHT THEY
ACHIEVE THAT, GIVEN THAT THEY
ARE ALLOWING US TO BE A LITTLE
BIT MORE INTENTIONAL TRYING TO
ACHIEVE DIVERSITY.
>> IT ACTUALLY IS A PRIORITY
FOR US.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ANY OF
THE HIRING NUMBERS, BUT WE ARE
IN A MEETING WITH DIRECTOR
FIELD THE OTHER DAY AND TALKING
ABOUT THAT, THAT WE HAVE
INCREASED, BY A LARGE AMOUNT,
OUR DIVERSITY HIRING.
BOTH OF RACE AND GENDER.
AND WE CONTINUE TO PUSH AND TO
TRY TO INCREASE AND CONTINUE TO
INCREASE AND EVOLVE IN THAT
AREA AS WELL.
>> ARE THERE THINGS YOU MAY DO
DIFFERENTLY NOW THAT I 200 HAS
BEEN LIFTED?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER
HONESTLY TO DIRECTOR FIELD IN
THE FORM OF HIRING, BECAUSE I'M
NOT SURE ON THE LEGALITY OF THE
LEGAL NATURE OR PATHWAY OF HOW
WE DO THE HIRING, WHAT I CAN
TELL YOU IS THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY
OUT THERE AND HIRING IN DIVERSE
COMMUNITIES. SOMETIMES, WHERE WE
PROBABLY HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT
HIRED, DONE HIRING FAIRS AND
SOLUTIONS IN THOSE AREAS.
WE ARE ACTIVELY GOING OUT TO
TRY TO RECRUIT THOSE.
WE HAVE INCREASED.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.
MY STYLE HAS NEVER BEEN GOTCHA,
TSUNAMI TO CATCH YOU FLAT-
FOOTED ON ANY OF THIS.
THIS IS ONE THE REASONS WHY
THOUGHT THE CHIEFS SHOULD BE
HERE TO ADDRESS. THE QUESTION
IS, WHAT I'VE HEARD FOR OVER A
DECADE IS WE CANNOT DO THIS
BECAUSE OF I 200.
WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE OF I 200
ND WE HAVE BEEN SHACKLED BY
THAT RESTRAINT.
IT IS NOW LIFTED.
AND SO, IT WAS SEEN TO ME THAT
IF I WERE IN YOUR POSITION, OR
AT LEAST THE CHIEFS POSITION, I
WOULD RUN TO THE LAW DEPARTMENT
AND SAY, NOW, WHAT CAN I DO
TEDIOUSLY TO RECRUIT DIVERSE
CANDIDATES? AND I AM ALSO TAKEN
BY THE FACT THAT I HEAR YOU
SAYING IT IS A PARTY.
IT IS CALLED OUT IN THE FIRE TO
BURMA, BUT I DID NOT GET CALLED
OUT TO PARTIES.
I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT
YOUR HIRING TARGETS.
SEEMS TO THE POLICE BURMA, WE
HAVE A ISSUE AND HIRING,
BECAUSE OF A LOT OF ISSUES AND
TRYING TO ACHIEVE DIVERSE
CANDIDATES AND SO, IT WOULD BE
IDEAL DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE,
AND A TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME
ANSWERS, TOO, BY THE WAY DURING
THE BUDGET CYCLE, WHAT WE CAN
DO DIFFERENTLY WHILE WE HAVE
THE WINDOW, BECAUSE THERE IS,
AS WILL KNOW, AND ATTEMPT TO
OVERTURN I 1000 AND GET SOME
ATTENTION ON THE BALLOT THIS
YEAR.
SO, WHILE WE HAVE THIS WINDOW,
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE
WOULD WANT TO INVEST IN EITHER
THOSE THAT CAN HELP US WITH
RECRUITING, TO FIND OUT WHAT WE
CAN DO DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE WE
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY NOW AND
IS THE FIRST BUDGET TIME WE
HAVE HAD TO DO THIS.
WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I WAS HOPING BEFORE THAT THE
BUDGET THAT I WOULD SEE IT
CALLED OUT.
WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR,
BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS
OPPORTUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT IT
IS GOING TO COST US.
I DO NOT SEE THIS AT ALL BUDGET.
>> WHAT I WILL DO, BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW, SIR, IS THAT I WILL
HAVE OTHER DIRECTOR FIELDS COME
MONDAY AND WE WILL COME UP WITH
A PLAN TO REACH OUT WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY AND I WILL FOLLOW
UP WITH YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> FOLLOW ME?
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
FOR THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING.
MY FAVORITE PART OF THAT LINE
OF QUESTIONING IS THE FACT THAT
INVITES A VERY HEALTHY AND
ONGOING RIVALRY BETWEEN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT, WHICH WILL KNOW HOW
MUCH YOU ALL LOVE, I HAVE
LEARNED THIS AS A MEMBER OF THE
FIRE PENSION BOARD AND THE
POLICE PENSION BOARD THAT THE
HEALTHY TENSION EXISTS, SO THAT
IS A GREAT SET UP TO INCENTIVIZE
COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULTIMATE
GOAL OF MAKING SURE THAT WE
HAVE A CLEAR STRATEGY OUT OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CENTER
SOME OF THESE RACE AND SOCIAL
JUSTICE EQUITY GOALS THAT WE
ARE, IN A LOT OF WAYS, NOT
ENCUMBERED FROM PURSUING AS WE
WERE IN THE PAST.
THAT BEING SAID, I WILL SAY THAT
THE HIRING INCENTIVE REPORTS
THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE IN
COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, FEELS LIKE
IT WAS MUCH LONGER AGO THAN
THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS
DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE UNDERLYING
NUMBERS.
AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE
SOME FOLLOW-UP ON THOSE, BUT
THE HIRING INCENTIVE TO BOTH
NEW HIRES AND LATERAL HIRES IS
SHOWING SOME PROMISING TRENDS
IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY BEING THE
ONE TO AROUND INCREASING
DIVERSE RECRUITS TO THE
DEPARTMENT, SO, THE REPORT THAT
WE GOT INDICATED THAT OF THE
TOTAL 36 ENTRY-LEVEL AND SIX
LATERAL INCENTIVES THAT WERE
PAID OUT THUS FAR THIS YEAR,
SINCE WE APPROVED THE HIRING
BONUSES OF THOSE RECEIVING THE
INCENTIVE, 40.5% WERE PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND IN THAT POOL.
60.7% WERE ASIAN.
9.5% WERE BLACK OR AFRICAN-
LATINO.
7.1% IDENTIFIED AS TWO OR MORE
RACES AND THE REMAINING 59%
WERE WHITE AND OF THAT POOL,
21.4% IDENTIFIED AS FEMALE, SO
I THINK WE ARE SEEING SOME GOOD
TRENDS IN TERMS OF THE HIRING
INCENTIVE, PARTICULARLY ON THE
NEW HIRE SIDE AND LEADING TO
THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF ALSO
BEING THE RECRUITMENT TOOL, A
MORE EFFECTIVE RECRUITING TOOL
FOR BOTH WOMEN AND WOMEN OF
COLOR.
I ALSO THINK THAT AROUND
COUNCILMEMBER HARRELL'S POINT
OF APPROACHING IT WITH MORE
INTENTIONALITY. IS A ITEM THAT
IS WILL MAKE.
>> I AM ALSO IN AGREEMENT.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HARRELL, IN
THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE DO
CALLOUT INCREASE COMMITMENT AND
IN 2014, OUR NEW HIRE NUMBER
WAS 22% AND IN 22, WAS 36%.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOME WORK
THERE ABOUT SENDING FOLKS INTO
COMMUNITIES THAT THEY ARE FROM
THAT THEY REFLECT TO THE
RECRUITMENT AND OBVIOUS,
THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO, BUT
THIS IS NOTHING TOTALLY ON OUR
RADAR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WE APPRECIATE THAT.
>> AND MOVING ON WITH THE
BUSINESS EFFICIENCY.
OBVIOUSLY IMPROVING THAT I
WOULD ONE DISPATCHING AND
PROCESSES AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO
RESEARCHING AND IMPLEMENTING A
NEW COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH
SYSTEM, OURS IS QUITE OLD AND
ANTIQUATED.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING
ABLE TO HARNESS NEW TECHNOLOGY
AS WE GO BACK TO GIVE US
GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE
DEPLOY OUR OFFICERS AND HOW WE
WERE RESPOND TO 911 CALLS.
WE ALSO LOOK FOR GREATER BUDGET
AND EXPENDITURE TRANSPARENCY,
WHICH IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT
RESTRUCTURING OUR BUDGET AS WE
REFERENCED EARLIER, AS THE
FORCE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM, TO
MAKE THE WHOLE, SO WE CAN
ACCURATELY ACCOUNTING FOR WHERE
THE MONEY IS GOING.
IT IS ACTUALLY REFLECTED WITHIN
THE BUDGET.
SO, OBVIOUSLY OUR OUTCOMES ARE
MOVING TOWARD A NEW SYSTEM AND
OBVIOUSLY BETTER RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT AND BEING MORE
FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
ANGELA FOR MOMENT TO GO OVER
SOME OF THE BUDGET NUMBERS.
>> YES, SO, YOU CAN SEE HERE
OUR FOR YOUR BUDGET SUMMARY
TICKETS FROM $330 MILLION, MOST
OF WHICH ALL OF WHICH, UNTIL
THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WAS GENERAL
FUND APPROPRIATIONS. GOING FROM
$330 MILLION TO $407 MILLION IN
THE 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET. LIKE
TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT IN
2018, WE CHANGED THE WAY THE
SEATTLE I.T.
RATES WERE BUDGETED AND SO THE
BULK OF THAT INCREASE, WHILE
SOME OF IT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO
INCREASES IN OUR BUDGET, TIED TO
THE ADDITION OF SWORN OFFICERS,
THE BULK OF IT, THE LARGE
MAJORITY IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE
WAY THAT WE CHANGE THE I.T.
ALLOCATION.
>> AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT
WAS AT $70 MILLION?
>> IT WAS IN 2018.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A
SIGNIFICANT BUMP FROM $330
MILLION-$394 MILLION.
JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT, AND
BEN MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO
THIS AS WELL, BUT AT THAT POINT
IN TIME, CHANGE THE I.T.
ALLOCATION AND HOW THAT WAS
CALCULATED, AS A RESULT, HOW
THAT WAS AGITATED AND AS A
RESULT, IT, IN A WAY, INCREASED
OUR BUDGET WHERE THERE WAS NOT
ACTUALLY A TANGIBLE BUDGET
CHANGE OR BUDGET ACTION.
>> WE ALSO CAME TO CONTRACT
THAT HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE
IN THE SALARY BASE AS WELL.
WE HAVE BEEN CARRYING THAT AS A
RESERVE UNTIL THAT POINT IN THE
HIT THE BOOKS FOR YEARS OF
SALARY INCREASES HIT THE SALARY
ALL AT ONCE.
AND THEN THAT REALLY DID
INCREASE THE SALARY BASE WITH
FOUR YEARS WORTH OF ANNUAL WAGE
INCREASES.
>> SO IT IS REALLY A WAY OF
ACCOUNTING FOR IT AS CONTRASTED
TO A MASSIVE INFLUX IN CAPITAL?
>> THAT IS TRUE ON THE I.T.
SIDE, THEN ON THE WAGE SIDE
THERE IS AN INCREASED COST.
>> YOU HAVE BEEN HOLDING THAT.
>> IN TERMS OF WHAT IS DRIVING
THE BUDGET CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR,
THAT IS ANOTHER DRIVER.
>> SO GOING FROM 2019 TO 2020,
YOU WILL SEE A NET CHANGE OF
$8.8 MILLION, COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALES, AS YOU POINTED OUT
EARLIER, IT IS A $6.2 MILLION
REDUCTION. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS
THAT NOW, OR I COULD HOLD IT
FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.
>> REVIEW THINK IT FITS THE
BEST WITH YOUR COMMENTS, WE ARE
GOING TO GET TO A BEFORE WE
CONCLUDE, SO HOWEVER IF IT'S
BEST.
>> I WILL JUMP BACK AND THE
OVERVIEW, I'M GOING TO CALL OUT
ONE OTHER ON THIS SLIDE.
THE TWO BY $1 MILLION THAT ARE
SHOWING UP IN THE OTHER
APPROPRIATION, AS WE MENTIONED
BEFORE, WE ARE 100% GENERAL
FUND IN MOST CASES.
WE HAVE THIS YEAR DECIDED TO
CREATE WITH OUR SCHOOL ZONE
CAMERA FUND, WE HAVE DONE, IN
THE PAST, A DOUBLE
APPROPRIATION FOR THAT PROGRAM,
THE PORTION OF WHICH IS HOUSED
IN SPD A LINKING THAT TO THE
CAMERA FUND DIRECTLY THIS YEAR,
WHICH WERE WE GET THE
APPROPRIATION INCREASE OF $2.1
MILLION WHICH IS THE PROGRAM
COST.
THE FTE IS THE BULK OF THOSE,
THEY'RE GOING TO REPRESENT THE
ADDITION OF SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS AND RECURRING
INVESTMENT YEAR-OVER-YEAR INTO
THE SWORN POLICE SERVICE.
THE 15 FTE BEING ADDED THIS
YEAR, ACCOUNTS FOR THE
ADDITIONAL CSO SQUAD AND WE
HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL SWORN
POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE BEING
ADDED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER
TWO 40 TOTAL OVER THE 2019 AND
2020.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT
SLIDE.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS BUDGET REALIGNMENT WITH
THE ACTUALS, AS YOU ALL KNOW,
2010 WAS A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR
US IN TERMS OF HIRING.
WE BASE THE 2019 AND 2020
BUDGET OFF OF PROJECTIONS THAT
WERE STAFFING PROJECTIONS THAT
TOOK INTO ACCOUNT ACTUALS
THROUGH THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE SEPARATED
MORE THAN WE WERE ANTICIPATING.
12 TOTAL FROM WHEN WE BUDGETED
OUR PROJECTIONS AROUND
STAFFING, WE ARE ALSO
OPTIMISTIC AND WE RECOGNIZE
THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AS A RESULT, THERE WAS A
COUNCIL REDUCTION OF $1.4
MILLION ANTICIPATED THERE WAS
GOING TO BE THEY CAN SEE
SAVINGS AVAILABLE.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN BOTH THE Q3
SUPPLEMENTAL AND IN NEXT YEAR'S
BUDGET, IS RECOGNIZE THAT THERE
IS A GAP AND THERE IS MONEY TO
BE HAD FROM THE VACANCY SAVINGS
GENERATED FROM OUR SWORN
STAFFING SITUATION.
THESE NUMBERS ALSO ACCOUNT FOR
WHAT WE DEEM ATTRITION SAVINGS,
WHICH IS THE COST DIFFERENTIAL
BETWEEN YOUNG POLICE OFFICER
AND A MORE SENIOR POLICE
OFFICER.
úWHICH IS LIKELY WHY THAT NUMBE
SEEMS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN
ONE MIGHT EXPECT.
>> SO, MAYBE THIS IS WHERE I
DIVE IN.
SO, I THINK, LASTER, WHEN WE
WENT TO THE BUDGET DELIBERATION
PROCESS, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT
THAT WAS MADE BETWEEN US AS
COUNSEL AND THE EXECUTIVE AROUND
WHERE THE DIAL WAS SET FOR
SALARY PROJECTIONS.
AND, I THOUGHT BACK THEN THAT
SHAVING OFF $1.4 MILLION SEEMED
LIKE A DEEP CUT, BUT IT TURNS
OUT IT WAS NOT A DEEP CUT AND
ALL, COMPARED TO WHAT THE
NUMBERS ULTIMATELY TURNED OUT
TO BE, SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT I HAVE A CLEAR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE UNDER
SPEND IS AND I THINK IT IS AN
IMPORTANT FACT FOR US AS
COUNCILMEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND AS
WE EVALUATE WHETHER THE
FORECASTING AS PROJECTED BY THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS
PROPOSED BUDGET ARE ACCURATE OR
STILL A LITTLE OVERLY
OPTIMISTIC.
I'M GOING TO GET A LOT OF
CREDIT FOR BEING SUPER
OPTIMISTIC IN THIS SPACE, BUT I
THINK, THE WAY THAT I
UNDERSTAND IT IN 2019, WE HAD A
$5 MILLION VACANCY UNDER SPEND,
BASICALLY.
>> THE THIRD COURSE
SUPPLEMENTAL THAT WE HAVE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUDGET,
UNAPPROPRIATE $5 MILLION OF THE
2019 APPROPRIATION FOR SPD
BUDGET AND EXPLANATION IS THAT
WE DID NOT MEET THE HIRING
GOALS THAT HAD BEEN THE 2019
BUDGET, SO SPD IS SITTING ON
ADDITIONAL PREPARATION
AUTHORITY THAT IT WILL NOT NEED
BY YEAR-END.
>> SO THAT IS JUST FOR 2019 AND
THOSE CHANGES ARE REFLECTED IN
THE 2019 QUARTER THREE
SUPPLEMENTAL ORDINANCE?
>> AND FOR 2020, THERE IS A $6
MILLION UNDER SPEND PROJECTED
FOR STAFFING?
>> CORRECT.
WE BOTH THE 2020 BUDGET ON THE
STAFFING LEVEL ASSUMPTION THAT
ASSUMED BOTH THAT WE WOULD
ACHIEVE A HIGHER LEVEL FOR
2019, AND THEN BUILD ON THAT
INTO 20.
WE HAVE NEW FORECAST OF WHAT
THE PROJECTED STAFFING LEVELS
FOR 2020 AND HAVE BUILT A BASE
BUDGET FOR 2020 AROUND THOSE
NEW FIGURES.
THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE
REALITY THAT WE HAVE HAD THIS
YEAR AND ALSO, OF THE WORKING
GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE
ARE BOTH BEING CONSERVATIVE
AND, IF YOU WILL, AMBITIOUS IN
OUR HIRING GOALS.
THERE IS A BALANCE THERE TO BE
STRUCK.
THAT LED US TO BUILD A BUDGET
THAT WOULD PRODUCE RELATIVE TO
THE 2020 ENDORSED A SAVINGS OF
JUST OVER $60.
>> SO, IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT
WAS UNDER SPENT, THAT IS JUST
$11 MILLION JUST ON THE VACANCY
STAFFING ISSUES. THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION.
OR IT COULD BE $7.4 MILLION ON
THE REDUCTION?
>> CORRECT.
I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE EXACT
FEATURE.
>> IT IS ABOUT $7.4 MILLION.
THAT IS THE YEAR-OVER-YEAR
CALCULATION FOR WHAT WAS
ANTICIPATED FOR THE COST OF THE
RETRO PAY SPECIFICALLY THAT WAS
LOADED INTO THE BUDGET.
I THINK WE HAVE DETERMINED IT
IS LIKELY BASED ON THE MODEL
FACTORED IN THE BUDGETED
POSITIONS VERSUS ACTUAL
STAFFING LEVELS SO, I THINK IT
IS ADULTS OVER THE EXPENDED
PERIOD, COMPOUNDED AND RESULTED
IN THE $7.4 MILLION.
>> AND THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT
IT, THE WAY I CHARACTERIZED
PREVIOUSLY, IS THAT IF YOU AT
THAT ROUGHLY $7 MILLION AND THE
$5 MILLION THAT IS IN THE Q3,
YOUR TIMELY DOLLARS ON A ONE
TIME RESOURCES UNDER SPEND.
THAT IS PASSED DOLLARS.
THAT IS PASSED THE RETRO PAY AND
THE UNDER SPEND FOR 19, THE $6
MILLION IS THE PROJECTED
ONGOING SAVINGS FOR 2020.
OBVIOUSLY, IF WE CONTINUE AND
SUCCEED IN HIRING GOALS, WE
WILL NEED ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR
21 SO WE CANNOT NECESSARILY
ASSUME THAT THE SAME $60 TO BE
SAVED AGAIN IN 21.
>> OKAY, SO, MY MATH IS LEADING
ME TO SOMEWHERE LIKE $80
MILLION THAT WAS EFFECTIVELY
APPROPRIATED TO SPD THERE WAS I
SPENT IT IS NOT LIKELY TO BE
SPENT.
>> AND WE ARE ONLY MAKING A
DECISION AND TOLD ME DOLLARS OF
THAT IS ONE TIME AND THE SIX ME
DOLLARS IS THE PIECE THAT IS
ONGOING, EXCEPT THAT IT WILL
NOT BE, AS WE INCREASE STAFFING
LEVELS TO THE SIX LANE DOLLARS,
WILL TRANSLATE INTO ACTUAL
SPENDING.
THAT $29 ONE-TIME HAS BEEN
PROGRAMMED INTO THE 2019 AND
2020 BUDGET THROUGH THE THIRD
QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL AND THE
BUDGET WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU.
AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE
ONE-TIME SPENDING THERE, YOUR
STAFF WILL BRING THIS TO YOUR
ATTENTION, AND I HAVEN'T YET,
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD FORMS,
BUT THERE'S A TOTAL OF $10
MILLION ADDITIONAL OVER 19-20
AND A NUMBER OF CLAIMS AND
PAYOUTS.
THOSE MONIES HAVE BEEN
REDIRECTED TO A NUMBER OF OTHER
PLACES.
AND MEETING OTHER DEMANDS, SO
IT HAS BEEN ALLOCATE IN THE
PROPOSED AND/OR IN THE THIRD
QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL.
>> WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE Q3
SUPPLEMENTAL.
>> THIS IS FOR YOU.
>> YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT IT IS
SPENT IN THAT MANNER, BUT THE
MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.
>> IT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET.
THAT IS WHAT I AM EXPLAINING.
>> THE WAY YOU WERE
CHARACTERIZING IT, YOU MADE IT
SOUND LIKE THAT SHIP HAS SAILED
, KISSING CAN I, YOU WILL NEVER
CATCH UP.
>> I THINK THE TWINKLE IS STILL
THERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
WANT TO MAKE SURE HE IS A TO
GETTING ON THE BOAT.
>> IN BOTH ABANDONED
SIGNIFICANT APPROPRIATIONS AND
REQUESTS SIGNIFICANT
APPROPRIATION.
THE RESOURCES, THE NET
RESOURCES THAT ARE LEFT OUT OF.
Q3 PROPOSED BUDGET, ALL OF THIS
IS SUBJECT TO YOUR
APPROPRIATIONS.
NONE OF THAT IS LAW, IF YOU
WILL.
>> THANK YOU.
SO, OBVIOUSLY, I'M GOING TO
WANT TO SEE DETAILS ON WHERE
THESE DOLLARS ARE PROPOSED TO BE
ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS,
AND AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT OF
DELIBERATION IN TERMS OF CITY
COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER WE ARE
AND APPROPRIATE USE OR IF THERE
OTHER MORE APPROPRIATE USES FOR
ALMOST $18 MILLION WORTH OF
GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT ARE
UNRESTRICTED.
IF THERE IS A CLEAR SENSE OF
WHERE THE LINES ARE BEING DRAWN
THERE AND WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE
GOING.
THAT IS ONE THING.
THEN SECOND, SETTING ASIDE THE
UNDER SPEND QUESTIONS. THERE ARE
DOLLARS ALLOCATED IN THIS
PROPOSED BUDGET FOR ADDRESSING
THE HIRING AND STAFFING,
ONGOING HIRING AND STAFFING
EQUIPMENT RETENTION NEEDS FOR
THE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT IS THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT
FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET NEED?
>> FOR REGROUPING, THERE IS
$1.6 MILLION FOR RECRUITMENT
RETENTION.
SPECIFICALLY, THE INITIATIVES
THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST
WEEK.
THERE IS ALSO, IN ADDITION TO
THAT, AND $814,000
APPROPRIATION THAT WILL ALLOW
US TO THE HIRING INCENTIVE
PROGRAM.
>> BUT THEN THERE IS A BASE
BUDGET, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL
HIRING BODIES.
WHAT IS THE BASE BODY BUDGET FOR
HIRING SWORN OFFICERS?
>> THE QUESTION IS, THERE IS AN
HR FUNCTION AT HPD, AS FAR AS
THE PERSONAL FRONT, WE GIVE
THAT BUDGET, BUT I THINK THE
QUESTION IS ALSO WHAT IS THE
ADDITIONAL, INCREMENT IN
SALARIES FOR NEW OFFICERS THAT
WE EXPECT FOR 2020?
>> CORRECT.
>> IT IS THE LATTER OR THE
FORMAL OR BOTH?
>> IT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY PUT IN THE 19 AND 20
BUDGET FOR THE OFFICERS THAT
WERE PROGRAMMED IN.
I THINK IT WAS 700,000 THIS
YEAR.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
>> WE ADDED, I BELIEVE, AROUND
$700,000 FOR 2019 TIED TO THE
10 NEW OFFICERS THAT WERE BEING
ADDED AND THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS
$3 MILLION ROUGHLY IN 2020 FOUR
THE ADDITIONAL 30 THAT ARE
GOING TO BE ADDED IN 2020.
>> ONE WAY I MIGHT JUST WE
THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT THERE
WERE ADS THAT ANGELA JUST
DESCRIBED THAT WOULD ALLOW THE
DEPARTMENT TO REACH ENTIRE
ANGLES FOR 2019 AND 2020 AND
RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD SEEM THAT
THEY ARE ON TRACK TO REACH THE
HIRING GOALS OR AT LEAST WE
HOPE THEY ARE.
THEY ARE ONE DOWN.
SO, IF NOTHING CHANGED, THEN
THE HIRING PLAN IS FUNDED AT
THE LEVELS THAT WERE INCREASED.
THE MONEY THAT YOU'VE BEEN
DISCUSSING IS REALLY THE
VACANCY SAVINGS FROM THE 41
NEGATIVE FOR THE DEPARTMENT
THAT WENT TO THE HOLE IN 2018.
THEY WERE DOWN 41 OFFICERS
WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY, THEN
OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS,
THEY'RE TRYING TO RECAPTURE THE
MONEY AND GET AN ACCURATE SENSE
OF HOW MUCH IT WAS. I WOULD SAY
THAT THE $6.1 MILLION IS THE
LAST BIT OF VACANCY SAVINGS
THAT THEY FOUND.
I THINK WHAT I HEARD ANGELA SAY
IS THAT IT IS BECAUSE AT THE
END OF 2010, AFTER THE COUNCIL
HAD CONCLUDED IT'S BUDGET
PROCESS, THERE WERE 12
ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS THAT THEY
HAD NOT PLANNED.
I WILL ASK BEN TO CORRECT ME.
>> I CAN'T QUOTE YOU 12, BUT
ESSENTIALLY.
THERE ARE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS
, AND IT IS A MOVING REALITY,
BUT YOU ARE TAKING ACTIONS OF
THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER WHICH
HAD PROJECTIONS BY YEAR END.
I DO NOT RECEIVE THE OFFICER
COUNTS, THEN A GREATER
POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN 2019.
ALSO, BECAUSE THE BASE WAS
GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER
AS WE WENT INTO 2019, BECAUSE
WE FINISHED 2020. AND THEN
FURTHER THE RECRUITMENT AFTER
DO NOT MEET THE HIRING GOALS
THAT HAVE BEEN SUCH.
THE BASE HAD STARTED OUT A
LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT AS WE
STAND HERE NOW, OR SIT HERE
NOW, THERE ARE FEWER OFFICERS
THAT HAVE BEEN PROJECTED FOR
2020 AS WELL.
>> I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO
GET AT IS WHATEVER ENDS UP IN
THE BUDGET FOR 2020, WE NEED TO
DO SOME ANALYSIS ON OUR END TO
MAKE SURE ONCE AGAIN THE IT IS
RIGHT SIZED TO WHAT IS BEING
PROJECTED AND THAT THE
PROJECTIONS THEMSELVES ARE ALSO
REALISTIC AND NOT OVERLY
OPTIMISTIC IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
DATA ACTUALLY SUPPORTS IN TERMS
OF THAT TREND.
THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD
LAST YEAR.
WANT TO REVISIT THAT
CONVERSATION.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO
HAMPER THE DEPARTMENT ABILITY
AND ACCESS TO RESOURCE TO HIRE
OFFICERS.
BUT LAST YEAR, AGAIN, WE SHAVED
OFF THE PROPOSED BUDGET ABOUT
$1.4 BILLION ENDED UP WITH A
SIGNIFICANT UNDER SPEND AND I
DON'T THINK ANY OF US COULD
HAVE ACCURATELY PREDICTED THAT,
BUT WE THINK IT IS JUST WORTH
HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT
WHETHER WE HAVE THE RIGHT SIZE
PROJECTIONS AND ASSOCIATED
PROJECTIONS A WHETHER WE HAVE
ROOM TO PLAY THERE.
>> IN THE ERA OF ENGAGEMENT, WE
DEVELOP THESE IN AUGUST AND AS
WE ARE ABOUT TO FLIP THE
CALENDAR IN OCTOBER, IT IS A
CONSTANTLY MOVING TARGET, SO,
IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
>> I LIKE YOUR CONSTANTLY MOVING
REALITY.
>> AND TO BE FAIR, IT HAS BEEN
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
IN OCTOBER, WE COULD BE SEEING
DAY SO THAT SEES US MORE
PROMISE IN TERMS OF HITTING
SOME OF THE AMBITIOUS GOALS
THAT ARE NOT AS AMBITIOUS AS WE
THOUGHT THEY MIGHT BE.
>> THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS OF
THEM PRETTY GOOD, BUT AGAIN, WE
SHOULD DIVE IN AND TAKE A LOOK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK WE ARE ON THE LAST
SLIDE HERE.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD
LIKE TO BRING FORWARD?
>> IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS,
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER
BUDGET CHANGES.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF THEM HAVE
BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY.
WE ARE ADDING $848,000 TO HELP
FINANCE EMPHASIS PATROLS AND
AUGMENTATION NEXT YEAR.
THE EXPANSION OF THE CSO
PROGRAM, IT WILL INCREASE THE
BUDGET BY $1.2 MILLION.
THE IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING,
THAT EQUATES TO A THREADED
$10,000 INCREASE AND THEN THE
REPLACEMENT PROJECT IS $2.7
MILLION IN 2020.
>> GREAT.
>> THE TOTAL COST OF THE
PROJECT IS 2.4.
IT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD IN
2021.
>>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
>> HEARING THEN, I'M GOING TO
SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHEAP,
YOU WERE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
BEN, YOU ARE A STALWART AND IT
IS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NEXT.
LET ME CHECK WITH MY COLLEAGUES
QUICKLY.
CAN WE CARRY ON?
OR DO YOU NEED A BREAK?
>> I'M GOOD.
>> FORGET.
>> JUST ONE MORE WITH SPD.
I HESITATE TO ASK THIS BECAUSE
I DID ASK THIS OF THE DEPUTY
MAYOR THE LAST TIME WE HAD A
CHANCE TO MEET WITH HIM IN
PERSON AND COUNCILMEMBER
GONZCEZ'S SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THAT I HAD DIRECTLY WITH THE
CHIEF THAT IT DOES BEAR NOTING
THAT THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE
MADE IN 2018, 2019, THE POLICY
CHANGES THAT WERE PUT FORWARD
FROM THE COUNCIL, THAT IT HAS
HAD IN THE BUDGET.
IT IS A LARGE PORTION OF THE
BUDGET, SO THE CONVERSATION
THAT THE CHIEF HAS HAD WITH THE
MEDIA ABOUT SOMEHOW THE CITY
COUNCIL NOT BEING SUPPORTIVE OF
POLICE OFFICERS DOES NOT SEEM
TO BE SOMETHING THAT BEARS
FRUIT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
AMOUNT OF POLICY THAT WE HAVE
PUT FORWARD.
THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE
HAVE PUT FORWARD.
AND ASKED SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT
IS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS THAT WERE BEING
CONCERNED A FRIEND OF THE
CAMERAS, WE ARE HURTING MORE
INVESTMENT IN DENTAL HEALTH.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST
YEAR AND A HALF, BUT I DO HOPE
THAT THIS CONVERSATION TODAY
ELIMINATES THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY TRYING TO
ADDRESS THE RETENTION AND
RECRUITMENT ISSUES AND THAT'S,
WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT
IS YOU FROM CITY COUNCIL TO
MAKE THAT CLEARER, BECAUSE
APPARENTLY WAS NOT CLEAR
ENOUGH, THE ANSWER WAS MENTAL
HEALTH, NOT SOMEHOW GETTING ON
A SOAPBOX AND PROCLAIMING
ALLEGIANCE TO WHAT HAS ALREADY
BEEN DONE ON THE STREETS.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE FOLKS WERE SIGNING UP
TO DO THEIR JOB HAVE THE TOOLS
THEY NEED.
FURTHERMORE, THAT THERE SETTING
UP TO DO THE JOB THAT THEY
SIGNED UP FOR AND NOT BECOMING
HAZMAT CLEANERS, WHICH IS
SOMETHING WE DO NOT WANT TO
EXPOSE PEOPLE TO MORE DISEASE.
LET'S SAY, TOXIC SITES THAT ARE
NOT THE CREATION OF ANYONE WHO
IS ALMOST, BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE
ARE HAVING TO LIVE IN PLACES
THAT ARE NOT INHABITABLE.
CURRENTLY, WE ARE EXPOSING A
LOT OF FOLKS TO THE SITUATION,
SO I'M GLAD THAT THERE IS A
HEALTH ELEMENT.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THERE IS A
MENTAL HEALTH ELEMENT TO THE
BUDGET THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF
US, BUT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO
DISPEL THAT MYTH THAT THEY ARE
SOMEHOW NOT HAVING SUPPORT OUT
THERE.
I THINK THAT THE CONVERSATION
WE HAVE HAD TODAY HAS BEEN
HELPFUL IN SHOWING THE TYPE OF
THE ADJUSTMENT AND POLICIES.
AND THE ONGOING CONVERSATION.
I KNOW I AM LOOKING AT YOU, BUT
WE WILL FOLLOW UP AS WELL WITH
THE CHIEF TO MAKE SURE THAT
TYPE OF NARRATIVE HAS BEEN
CLARIFIED IN THE FUTURE, I HOPE.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU ALL.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
NOW, PLEASE COME ON UP.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU, CHIEF SCOGGIN.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND
TOM, GREAT, ARE YOU GOING TO DO
THE INTRO HERE?
>> I WAS GOING TO DO THE USUAL
INTRODUCTION.
>> A QUICK INTRODUCTION.
>> I AM THE FIRE TRUCK.
>> CENTRAL STAFF AGAIN, THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A TWO TO
$24 MILLION AGENCY.
THERE IS ABOUT 1000
FIREFIGHTERS AND THE BIGGEST
úISSUE LAST YEAR WAS HEALTH.
COUNCILMEMBER BRADSHAW ADDING
IT TO THE BUDGET AND THEY HAVE
EXPANDED THAT IS YOU HEARD
ABOUT THE FIRST PRESENTATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
>> WELCOME AND THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND WE KNOW
THAT WE ARE THE LAST
PRESENTATION OF THE DAY, BUT
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE VERY
THOROUGH AND ANSWER ALL THOSE
QUESTIONS.
I TALKED ABOUT HEALTH ONE,
WHICH IS A BIGGER PART OF THE
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH
PROGRAM, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT JUST
TO GIVE YOU THE BRIEF RECAP OF.
OUR GOAL IS TO READ ADDRESS
THOSE THAT NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE
OTHER THAN AN EMERGENCY ROOM.
WHAT WE KNOW IS WE GO ON
BETWEEN 16 AND 20 HEROIN
OVERDOSES EVERY WEEK.
WHAT WE KNOW IS WE RESPOND TO
APPROXIMATELY 200 HOMELESS
RESPONSES EACH WEEK AND THAT
COULD BE A TENT FIRE, THAT
COULD BE A MEDICAL CALL, THAT
COULD BE SOMEONE ON THE STREET.
WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE THIS IS
WHAT THE INFORMATION TELLS US.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THESE
RESPONSES DO NOT NEED TO BE IN
AN EMERGENCY ROOM, SO I AM VERY
EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK OUR
ACUITY MANAGERS BEEN DOING A
WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AROUND
THE COUNTY AND VISITING
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AROUND
THE NATION TO FIGURE OUT BEST
PRACTICES.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT
YEAR AS WE ROLL OUT THE HEALTH
ONE PILOTS, WE WILL BE TRACKING
EACH AND EVERY RESPONSE.
THE OUTCOME OF THE RESPONSES.
BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS AND
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE OTHER
SERVICE DELIVERY PARTNERS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE CAN COME BACK TO,
HOPEFULLY QUARTERLY, TO GIVE
YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW THE
PROGRAM IS GOING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
PROGRAMS OR QUESTIONS ON HEALTH
ONE?
>> I THINK WE ARE ALSO HAPPY
WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD THAT
APPLAUSE ONLY BEGINS TO EXPRESS
HOW PLEASED WE ARE.
>> SO, THE 2020 STRATEGIC.
>> THERE'S A QUESTION BUT I
SHOULD HAVE LOOKED TO MY LEFT.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT
THE EFFORT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT
DATA COLLECTION ON HEALTH ONE.
KNOW THAT WHEN I DID THE RIDE
ALONG, PEOPLE TRIED TO COLLECT
AS MUCH IT IS A GOOD, BUT WITH
EACH MIS PROGRAM, IS THIS DUE
TO GOING TO BE INTEGRATED, OR
HOW ARE WE HOPING TO MARRY THE
DATA THAT WE SEE ON THE STREET
WITH THE HEALTH ONE EFFORTS AND
OUR PROCESS TO SEE HOW WE ARE
SERVICING PEOPLE WHO DO NOT
HAVE A HOME.
>> WE KNOW WILL BE INTEGRATED
WITH HOME.
I THINK WE MENTIONED, RIGHT
NOW, WE ARE TRYING TO INTEGRATE
ALL OF OUR DATA INTERNALLY.
JOHN HAS BEEN WORKING HARD AT
CREATING A DATA WAREHOUSE SO WE
CAN HAVE ALL OF OUR DATA IN ONE
PLACE.
ONE OF THE OTHER PLACES WHERE WE
INTEGRATE WITH OUTSIDE
PARTNERS, IS INTEGRATED WITH
THE HOSPITALS AND THE
COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A WORKING HARD TO BUILD
A SYSTEM WHERE THEY RESPOND TO
THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND
THEY GET THE OUTCOME SO THAT WE
CAN HAVE AN INFORMED QI PROCESS
ON HOW OUR SERVICE IS BEING
DELIVERED.
THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO COME
BEFORE INTEGRATING WITH THE
EXTERNAL PARTNERS, BUT IT IS
SOMETHING THAT IS ON OUR RADAR
AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND OUR ASSESSMENTS, ARE
THEY OKAY?
ARE THE 911 EMERGENCY MEDICAL
DISPATCHING PROTOCOLS OKAY?
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
DETERMINED BY THE PATIENT
OUTCOME, THOSE ARE AT THE TOP
OF THE LIST RIGHT NOW.
JOHN, THAT IS ON HIS RADAR.
>> GREAT.
WOULD LIKE TO DIVE IN AND
APPRECIATE OUR CRISIS
CONNECTIONS WITH ALLIE FRANKLIN
AND WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET
FOR HER FOR 2022 CONTINUE IN
THAT ONE CALL, WHICH I THINK
THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE. IT
IS GOING TO BE CALLED.
BUT BETWEEN YOU AND THE ENTITY,
DATES IS COMING GALORE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS
PART OF WHAT ALLIE WILL BE
DOING FOR US.
WHEN YOU IDENTIFY AN INDIVIDUAL
, ONE CALL GOES TO HER 211
CRISIS LINE.
THEY IDENTIFY A PLACE WHERE YOU
CAN TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE
PERSON HAS A CASE MANAGER, GET
THEM CONNECTED, SO THAT WILL
HAPPEN AND THEN WITHIN THE NEXT
24 HOURS, A FOLLOW-UP, SO WE
HAVE THAT WARM HANDOFF FOR THE
PERSON.
SO THAT WE ARE SOLVING THE
PROBLEM HOLISTICALLY AND AGAIN,
SYSTEMWIDE, NOT JUST HAVING ONE
SET OF DATA AND THE POLICE
HAVING ANOTHER, AND ALL HOME
HAVING ANOTHER AND THEN ALLIE'S
GROUP HAVING ANOTHER.
BUT USING THAT.
AGAIN, THE SYSTEM SOLUTION
SAVES YOU TIME.
IS A FEW PEOPLE FRUSTRATION AND
ALSO SAVES THE SYSTEM MONEY.
WITH BETTER OUTCOMES, OF COURSE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
>> SO MOVING ON TO OUR 2020
TEACHING PRIORITIES, FOR US,
STARTS WAS SERVICED OF REALLY
VERY DELIVERY IN RESPONSE.
ARE GOAL IS TO PROTECT PROPERTY
AND SAVE LIVES.
A LOT OF THIS IS BASED ON TIME.
HOW QUICKLY CAN GET TO AND EMS
CALL.
HOW QUICK WE CAN GET TO AN ALS
CALL.
AND OUT QUICKLY CAN GET TO A
FIRE CALL.
RESOURCES HOW QUICK WE CAN GET
CALLS PROCESSED AND DISPATCHED
OUT.
THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION
ASSOCIATION PROVIDES THE FIRE
SERVICE STANDARDS IN EACH OF
THESE AREAS.
IT IS A FOCUS ON THE CALL
PROCESSING A DISPATCH TIMES THAT
THEY ARE TRACKING AND
MONITORING.
THOSE ARE THE RESPONSE TIMES.
THERE MULTIPLE TYPES OF
RESPONSE TIMES.
5 MINUTES FOR A EMS CALL.
8 MINUTES FOR AN ALS CALL.
8 MINUTES OF APPROXIMATELY 70
FIREFIGHTERS ON SCENE READY TO
ATTACK AFAR.
THIS COMES FROM VERY IMPORTANT
INFORMATION.
A FIRE STARTS TO GROW RAPIDLY
AFTER 8 MINUTES.
ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TO
START TO HAPPEN.
THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TOP
OF MIND AND THAT IS THE CORE
MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION.
PROTECTING OUR WORK FIRST.
AND WORKPLACE.
PLAY HEALTH AND WELLNESS. I
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, WE HAVE
BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE FRED
HUTCH FOR THE LAST YEAR AND
DOING A CANCER STUDY IN THE
SADDLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FRED HUTCH HAS BEEN A GREAT
PARTNER.
OF RESEARCHING CANCER IN THE S
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR
EVERY MEMBER IS WORKING IN THE
ORGANIZATION, DATING BACK TO
1973.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MANY MAY
HAVE PASSED AWAY ALONG THE WAY
AND THEY HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THE
RELEASES.
THEY ARE CHECKING THE NATIONAL
CANCER REGISTRIES.
INDIVIDUAL STATE CANCER
REGISTRIES, WE HOPE TO HAVE A
FINAL REPORT IN JUNE 2020.
ONCE WE GET THIS INFORMATION,
THE HOPEFULLY MAKE SOME MORE
INFORMED DECISIONS ON HOW WE DO
BUSINESS OUT THERE IN THE
FIELD.
THE TREATMENT THAT OUR
FIREFIGHTERS ARE GETTING AND A
NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS.
WE KNOW THIS HITS THE FIRE
SERVICE REALLY HARD.
LAST WEEKEND, MANY OF US NEW
ORGANIZATION ATTENDED THE
NATIONAL FIREFIGHTER MEMORIAL
IN COLORADO SPRINGS PUT ON BY
THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION
OF FIREFIGHTERS AND IT WAS WELL
REPRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF LOCAL
27.
WE LAID ONE MEMBER TO REST
THERE AND PUT THE NAME ON THE
WALL.
AND HE PASSED AWAY OF CANCER.
WE KNOW HOW THIS HITS THE FIRE
SERVICE A TRYING TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT IT AND THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US.
THE NEXT PRIORITY IS CONTINUING
OUR COMMITMENT.
>> I'M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA HAS A QUESTION.
>> I AM NOT SORRY THAT YOU
REQUESTED, I AM SORRY TO DROP
YOU.
>> I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE A
QUESTION.
MORE JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW
LONG YOU BEEN TRYING TO RAISE
THE AWARENESS OF THE DISPARATE
HEALTH IMPACTS ON FIREFIGHTERS
DUE TO THE TOXINS AND
SUBSTANCES THAT YOUR MEMBERS
ARE EXPOSED TO AND RECOGNIZING
THAT THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING
THAT INVOLVES LABOR AND
INDUSTRIES AND WORKERS COMP,
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE
GETTING ACCURATE PAYMENT TO
YOUR MEMBERS AFTER THEY HAVE
BEEN EXPOSED TO THESE TOXINS
AND NOT HAVE TO BOTH FIGHT
CANCER AND FIGHT THE SYSTEM TO
GET THE PAYMENTS THAT ARE DUE
TO THEM.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY
CAN DO SPECIFIC TO THE ADVOCACY
THAT MANY OF YOUR FOLKS HAVE
BEEN ASKING FOR AT THE STATE
LEVEL AS WELL?
IS THAT STILL AN ONGOING
CONVERSATION ABOUT GETTING
RECOGNITION FOR SOME OF THE
ELEMENTS AND DISEASES THAT YOUR
MEMBERS ACQUIRE BECAUSE OF
THEIR EXPOSURE TO THE TYPES OF
TOXINS?
IF SO, WE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW
THAT AS WELL.
AS WE ARE CREATING THE 2020
LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE FUTURE WE WILL BE BRINGING
SOMETHING FORWARD.
TODAY, THERE ISN'T.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THAT
THE PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION ARE
VERY TOXIC.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE THINGS
THAT ARE IN YOUR HOMES, THE
SYNTHETICS AND ALL OF THOSE
THINGS, WHEN THEY BURN AND OFF
GAS AND GET ON ALL OF OUR
TURNOUT GEAR AND ALL OF OUR
GLOVES AND ALL OF THESE THINGS,
WE TAKE THESE BACK TO THE
STATION.
THE CITY HAS BEEN GREAT IN
PROVIDING US EXTRACTORS SO WE
CAN WASH THEM.
BUT THEN THE NEXT CALL COMES
IMMEDIATELY.
INTERNALLY, WE ARE WORKING ON
IMPROVING OUR PROCESSES TO
IMPROVE OUR OWN HEALTH AND
SAFETY, BUT AFTER WE GET THE
CANCER REPORT BACK, WE MIGHT BE
COMING BACK WITH ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT STRATEGIC PARTY IS
CONTINUNG OUR COMMITMENT TO
RACE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.
WILL TALK ABOUT ONE AREA IN
THIS, ONLY BECAUSE IT IS TOP OF
MIND.
TODAY, WE COMPLETED THE FINAL
SESSION OF 2019.
WE BROUGHT IN DR. CAPRICE
HOLLANDS TO TRAIN ALL OF OUR
SWORN AND NON-SWORN MANAGERS.
WE EACH OF OUR SWORN AND NON-
SWORN MANAGERS TO 12 HOURS OF
TRAINING BY DR. HOLLANDS OVER
FOUR SESSIONS OVER THE COURSE OF
2019.
WE FINISH THE FOURTH SESSION
TODAY.
THE FIRST SESSION FOCUSED ON
IMPLICIT AND EXPLICIT BIAS.
THE NEXT SESSION FOCUSED ON
TELEPHONE CAN READ MY WRITING,
LET ME SEE HERE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
STEREOTYPE THREAT.
THE NEXT SECTION FOCUSED ON
PRIVILEGE AND TODAY FOCUSED ON
MICRO AGGRESSIONS.
OUR GOAL WAS SIMPLE.
WE WANT TO GET OUR MANAGERS ON
BOARD IN THE RIGHT MINDSET AND
IN 2020, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD
OUT A TRAIN THE TRAINER MODEL
WITH THE MANAGERS ANOTHER
ORGANIZATION MANAGERS THEY CAN
GOT TO THE ORGANIZATION AND
HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
RANK AND FILE.
WE BELIEVE IF THEY HAVE THE
RIGHT MINDSET, WE CAN MOVE THE
NEEDLE HERE.
THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US.
THE NEXT STRATEGIC PARTY IS TO
IMPLEMENT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND
TECHNOLOGY.
WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MOVE IN
A NUMBER OF, MOVE TECHNOLOGY
AND A NUMBER OF AREAS AND IN
2020, WE HOPE TO IMPLEMENT AND
AUTOMATE THE STAFFING SYSTEM.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE TODAY, WHEN
WE HAVE BIG EVENTS THAT HAPPEN,
WE STILL HAVE A PERSON IN THE
OFFICE MAKING MANY PHONE CALLS.
ONE OF THE BIG FIRES MOST
RECENTLY WAS THE FOR ALARM OVER
YARD LUMBERYARD FIRE.
HAD TO DO A MASSIVE CALL.
WE SO HAD TO STAFF THE FIRE
STATION.
IT INDIVIDUALS IN THE STATION
AND WE MADE OVER 200 PHONE
CALLS THAT NIGHT AND ALL OF
THAT TAKES TIME TO STAFF THE
DEPARTMENT.
WITH AN AUTOMATED STAFFING
SYSTEM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
BASICALLY PROGRAM IT AND THE
SYSTEM WOULD LAUNCH AND START
THE CALLS TO GET OUR STATIONS
BACKFILLED.
THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS.
EVEN ON TIMESHEETS FOR OVERTIME,
IT IS A PAPER PROCESS THAT HAS
TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE
SIGNATURES AND SOMETIMES IT
TAKES AN EXTREMELY LONG TIME
AND SOMETIMES IT INTERRUPTS THE
PAYMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEE OF
GETTING PAID ON TIME BECAUSE OF
THE PROCESS.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT.
WE HAVE RULES IN THE CONTRACT.
WITH A MEMBER WORKS, THE MEMBER
SHOULD GET PAID.
THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP
WITH THAT ALSO.
THE NEXT ONE IS OUR EMERGENCY
RADIO SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE.
I REPRESENT THE CITY VOTE ON
THE PROJECT IN PUGET SOUND
EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE AROUND THE
COUNTY TODAY, THERE 27 RADIO
TOWERS THAT SUPPORT THE POLICE
OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND
OTHER END-USERS AROUND THE
COUNTY.
THIS $281 MILLION IS GOING TO
BE STANDING UP. 60 TOWERS OF
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WILL
BRING US ALL INTO THE SAME
SYSTEM AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND
PROVIDE NEW DISPATCH RADIOS AND
MOBILE AND PORTABLE RADIOS FOR
THE END-USERS.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT
THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
THIS YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO
ACTUALLY INSTALL THE DISPATCH
CONSOLES IN MOST, IF NOT ALL OF
THE DISPATCH CENTERS IN KING
COUNTY.
THE TRAINING HAS ALREADY TAKEN
PLACE FOR THE DISPATCH CENTERS.
THAT IS A BIG STEP IN THE
PROJECT.
MOST OF THE TOWERS ARE PROBABLY
ABOUT 85% ARE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION OR COMPLETED.
THERE ARE STILL SOME HURDLES
ALONG THE WAY WITH SOME OF THE
FINAL LEASES.
AND INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE
WAY.
BUT 2020 IS GOING TO BE VERY
IMPORTANT FOR THE PROJECT AS WE
FINALIZE THE SELECTION OF THE
MOBILE AND PORTABLE RADIOS AND
DEVELOP THE FINAL ROLLOUT PLAN
FOR 2021 AND 2022.
YOU CAN IMAGINE THE INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENTS, THE SERVICE LOCAL
AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY
COMPLICATED ALONG THE WAY, IT IS
AN EXCITING PROJECT AND I
REALLY HOPE IT IMPROVES OUR
RADIO COVERAGE THROUGHOUT NOT
JUST SEATTLE, BUT KING COUNTY.
BEFORE I LOOKED DOWN AGAIN, ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ON THE RSG I TREATY, TO HAVE
A SENSE OF HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE
GONE THROUGH THE TRAINING
ALREADY?
>> WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT
SESSIONS.
OUR GOAL IS GIVE EACH ONE 12
HOURS EACH AND PROBABLY 95% OF
OUR MANAGERS WENT THROUGH ALL
FOUR SESSIONS AND I HAVE TO
GIVE THE CREDIT TO MY ASSISTANT
CHIEF OF OPERATIONS WHO REALLY
STAYED ON THIS PROJECT AND A
MAJOR PEOPLE SHOWED UP FOR THE
TRAINING.
AND DR. CAPRICE HOLLANDS AND
BREAK DOWN WALLS ON DIFFICULT
TOPICS.
WE THE UP NEXT AREA OF FOCUS IS
THE CITATIONS LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU FOR PASSING THAT ON
THE PAST MONDAY.
WE THINK THAT IS A BIG STEP FOR
US.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES OF
WHY WE MOVE THIS FORWARD WAS
BECAUSE WE ARE AVERAGING ABOUT
5000 NUISANCE ALARMS. THAT IS A
LARGE NUMBER THAT WE CAN
ADDRESS.
WE THINK THE A CITATION
LEGISLATION IS GOING TO GIVE US
THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO
ENCOURAGE THEM A LITTLE BIT
MORE TO GET THOSE SYSTEMS BACK
INTO ALIGNMENT SO THAT THEY ARE
VERY SAFE.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE 27,000 SYSTEMS IN THE
CITY AND THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO
THE COMMITTEE, WE SHOWED
COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ A VIDEO
OF A HIGH-RISE FIRE THAT
HAPPENED JUST LAST MONTH.
THE INTERVIEW WAS THE IMPORTANT
PART.
THIS IS A FROM THE WHOLE
CONVERSATION.
THE RESIDENT SAID THE ALARM
GOES OUT HERE ABOUT THREE TIMES
A WEEK, SO I DO NOT THINK IT
WAS A BIG DEAL.
EXCEPT THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE
16th FLOOR.
LUCKILY, IT WAS BROAD DAYLIGHT,
LATE IN THE AFTERNOON, AS
OPPOSED TO 2:00 IN THE MORNING
ON THE SEVENTH FLOOR.
IT WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT
SCENARIO.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE
THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO
MOVE THAT FORWARD.
IT IS NOT A DEPARTMENTWIDE
CITATION AUTHORITY, ONLY IN THE
FIRE DO PREVENTION BUREAU AND
ONLY CERTAIN INSPECTORS ARE
GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
WRITE THOSE CITATIONS.
OUR 2018 FIRE CODE.
2020 WE WILL START THE PROCESS
OF MOVING THE 2018 FIRE CODE
FORWARD.
GENERALLY THE FIRE CODE RUNS
APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS
BEHIND.
IN 2018, WE ADOPTED THE 2015
FIRE CODE AND THERE IS A LOT OF
WORK THAT HAS TO GO INTO GET
THAT INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE IN
A PLACE THAT IT IS IN ALIGNMENT
WITH SEATTLE.
THE FIRE PREVENTION TEAM HAS
BEEN WORKING VERY HARD AT THAT
SO IN 2020, WE THINK Q2 WILL
HAVE IT BEFORE YOU FOR
APPROVAL.
THAT IS A REALLY BIG
UNDERTAKING FOR THE FIRE
PREVENTION BUREAU.
RADIO TRANSCRIPTION PROJECT.
WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO GET BETTER IN THE
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON HOW
WE DO BUSINESS.
AFTER MAJOR EVENTS OR
SIGNIFICANT FIRES AND OTHER
THINGS, WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED
A POST-INCIDENT ANALYSIS
PROCESS.
THAT IS A VERY TIME-CONSUMING
PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING ALL
THE STEPS THAT ACTUALLY TAKES
TO BRING A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME
TO THE INCIDENT.
IT BRINGS FORWARD OUR STANDARD
OPERATING GUIDELINES ON HOW WE
MOVE AND CHANGE PRACTICES IN
THIS BATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE
DEVELOPED 18 STANDARD OPERATING
GUIDELINES.
IT GIVES US A PLAYBOOK ON HOW
WE DO BUSINESS OUT IN THE
FIELD.
AS WE DO THE POST INCIDENT
ANALYSIS, IT MAY CAUSE COURSE
CORRECTIONS ALONG THE WAY.
WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS
TRYING TO TAKE ALL OF THE VOICE
RECORDINGS OF ALL THE INCIDENTS
AND PUT THEM INTO A DATA SYSTEM
SO THAT WE CAN TRIAGE THEM MORE
EASILY AND OUR PIE'S WILL NOT
TAKE AS MUCH TIME.
FOR A SECOND ALARM FIRE, THEIR
HOURS AND HOURS OF RADIO
TRAFFIC.
FREE DUELS FOR INDIVIDUALS
GOING TO, IT IS VERY TIME-
CONSUMING.
WE THINK IT WILL MOVE US
FORWARD IN THE AREA OF
OPERATIONS.
EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHING
IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC
PRIORITIES IN MAY 2019. WE
UPDATED OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL
DISPATCHING PROTOCOLS WITH A
COMPANY CALLED CORDY OUT OF
COPENHAGEN.
THIS FOR SOME IT'S BEEN DONE IN
THE LAST 20 YEARS.
WHAT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING
ON BEHIND THE SCENES IS FEEDING
THEM TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS
OF OUR DISPATCH RECORDINGS.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THAT THEY
HAVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE RUNNING
ALGORITHMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
RUNNING BEHIND-THE-SCENES.
THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
HELP OUR DISPATCHERS MAKE
HOPEFULLY A FASTER DECISION ON
THOSE CRITICAL CALLS SUCH AS
CARDIAC ARREST AND THIS IS AN
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
COMPUTER RUNNING BEHIND THE 911
CALL.
IT IS LISTENING TO TONE, TO
VERBIAGE, TO VOICE INFLECTIONS,
TO BACKGROUND NOISE.
IT IS ABLE TO SPEAK MULTIPLE
LANGUAGES.
IT IS ABLE TO DO MANY THINGS,
SO THAT WHEN I HITS ALL OF THE
DATA POINTS, EVEN BEFORE THE
DISPATCH IS DONE WITH THE
PROTOCOL, THE SCREEN MAY POP UP
AND SAY DISPATCH NOW AND WE
KNOW HOW IMPORTANT TIME IS IT.
10 OR 20 SECONDS IS IMPORTANT
FOR SOMEONE GOING THROUGH A
CARDIAC ARREST.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH
THEM AND BUILDING IT.
IT IS IN THE PILOT PHASE BEHIND
THE SCENES AND ACTUALLY, THE
BBC JUST DID A REPORT ON
COPENHAGEN AND SEATTLE FIRE
THAT ARE LOOKING AT DEPLOYED
THIS TECHNOLOGY.
IS EXCITING TO SAY THAT WE
WOULD BE THE FIRST FIRE
DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY DEPLOY
TECHNOLOGY LIKE THIS AND TO HELP
HALL'S GET DISPATCHED IN A
FASTER MANNER TO SOMEONE HAVING
A CARDIAC ARREST.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE LAST ITEM IS THE LOW
ACUITY PROGRAM.
WE TALKED ABOUT HEALTH ONE, BUT
THE LOW ACUITY PROGRAM HAS
TACKLEDMANY ISSUES.
WE HEARD ABOUT THE NURSE TRIAGE
LINE.
THAT CAME UNDER OUR LOW ACUITY
PROGRAM.
WE BROUGHT ON A SOCIAL WORKER,
MANAGING OUR HIGH UTILIZES.
AND HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT FOR
US.
WE HAVE ONE SOCIAL WORKER, BUT
WE KNOW IS WHEN SHE STARTS
ADDRESSING THE HIGH UTILIZES,
IT REDUCES THEIR 911 CALLS BY
AN AVERAGE OF THREE PER
QUARTER.
WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
WE ALSO HAVE A VULNERABLE ADULT
CASE MANAGER FOR THOSE
INDIVIDUALS, WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS GO ON SCENE AND
SEE SOMEONE LIVING ALONE, THE
HOME MIGHT BE IN DISARRAY, AND
OTHER THINGS MIGHT BE
HAPPENING, THEY CAN ACTUALLY
REFER THAT PERSON TO A
VULNERABLE ADULT CASE MANAGER A
GREAT THE FOLLOW-UP PROCESS.
MANY THINGS FALL INTO THE LOW
ACUITY PROGRAM AND WE ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR NEW AND
DIFFERENT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO
SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
OUR GOAL IS TO MEET THEM WHERE
THEY ARE AND TRY TO PROVIDE
THEM WITH WHAT THEY NEED.
ANY QUESTIONS THERE?
>> I AM JUST OVER HERE SMILING
BECAUSE I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE
HAVE MOVED SO FAR THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, MANY THANKS.
>> GREAT.
THANKS.
I WILL GO OVER AND PROVIDE A
QUICK SUMMARY WITH REGARDS TO
THE FOR YOUR BUDGET.
IN 2017, THE EXPENDITURES WERE
$207 MILLION INCREASE FOR $2
MILLION IN 2018 TO 221 MILLION
DOLLARS.
MADE UP THE INCREASE WAS
INCREASES IN WAGES.
A WAGE INCREASE OF 3%
THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
PART OF THIS HAD TO DO WITH WE
ADDED A PEAK TIME AID UNIT IN
2018.
IT ALSO RESTORED THE BATTALION
TO CHIEF POSITION SERVING THE
DOWNTOWN CORE.
IN ADDITION, HEALTHCARE COSTS
IMPROVED BY $3 MILLION AND
OTHER ASSOCIATED BENEFITS WITH
WAGES WHICH GROW ABOUT $1
MILLION.
WORKER'S COMP.
ALSO GREW BY $700,000.
WE HAD INCREASES IN SOME
INTERNAL SERVICE FUNCTIONS LIKE
SEATTLE I.T.
BY APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION.
IT MAY APPEAR AS IF IN 2019, AS
IF WE ARE EXPERIENCING A
REDUCTION OR A DETRIMENT, BUT
WE ARE SUSTAINING SERVICES.
2019 AND 2020, CURRENTLY DO NOT
REPRESENT WAGE INCREASES
BECAUSE LOCAL 27 AND LOCAL 28,
THE FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE
STATIONS WERE NEGOTIATING TERMS
OF THAT IT WILL TAKE PLACE AND
TRUE OF THE BUDGET.
THEN, JUST TO GO OVER SOME
POSITION CHANGES OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN
ADMINISTRATIVE.
WE'VE ADDED POSITIONS OF THE
FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION TO
HELP SUPPORT AND HELP
INSPECTION SERVICES.
WE ADDED A PAYROLL STAFF TO
RESPOND TO THE GROWING
INCREASES IN PAYROLL PROCESSING.
TIME, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF
ITEMS THAT WE ARE PROCESSING.
SO, THAT COVERS THE QUICK
OVERVIEW.
UNLESS YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON
THOSE.
>>> I THINK COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAS A QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU.
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, THE MAYOR
PROPOSED AND THE COUNCIL
ADOPTED A REPORTED $2 MILLION
FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER
RECRUIT CLASS FOR 2019 AND 2020.
AND, WE KNOW THAT FST HAS HAD A
HIGH NUMBER OF VACANCIES DUE TO
AN AGING WORKFORCE.
AND I WONDER WHETHER NOT, WHAT
WE ANTICIPATE THE NEEDED TO BE
NEED FOR 2020 CLASS IS STILL
BASED ON REAL-TIME KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT SEPARATIONS THAT ARE
PLANNED FOR 2020, WEATHER NET
THAT IS SUFFICIENT.
>> ABSOLUTE.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I THINK WE ASKED FOR THREE
CLASSES, BUT WE HAVE A GOT.
BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT 25% OF THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT IS 53 YEARS OF AGE
AND HAVE ENOUGH SERVICE YEARS
TO RETIRE.
THAT IS 25%.
A DROP DOWN TO 50 YEARS OF AGE,
THAT HITS ABOUT 30% OF THE
DEPARTMENT, SO WE ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO SEE THE NUMBER OF
RETIREMENTS THAT WE ARE SEEING
RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 55
VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.
WE HIRED A CLASS OF 30 IN
FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
WILL WRAP UP JUST BEFORE
THANKSGIVING.
WE WILL HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL
RECRUITS CLASSES ONE OF
FEBRUARY 1 AND AUGUST.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
I SHOULD ALSO SAY OCTOBER 1,
WE'RE OPENING UP OUR
APPLICATION PROCESS SO THAT
WILL BE OPEN FROM OCTOBER 1 TO
NOVEMBER 26 GETTING READY FOR
THE NEXT ROUND OF TESTING, SO
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON
INTO THAT ALSO.
>> IF YOU THE EXTRA CLASS,
YOU'D HAVE THE VACANCY.
>> IT MEANS ONE OF TWO THINGS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF, THE
FIREFIGHTERS WORKING ACROSS THE
THE CLOCK BECAUSE WE HAVE A
CONSTANT SEATED POSITION HE
STAMPED FSD FIREFIGHTERS ON
DUTIES.
WE STILL FILL THE 215
FIREFIGHTERS WITH OVERTIME
WHEN WE DO NOT HAVE BODIES.
THE BODIES SLOW THE WHEEL DOWN
ON THE FIREFIGHTERS WORKING SO
MUCH.
THE OTHER STRESS IN THE SYSTEM
IS THE NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT WE
HAVE IN THE CITY EACH AND EVERY
YEAR, LAST YEAR, WE HAD OVER
700 EVENTS.
WE STAFF MANY OF THOSE EVENTS
WITH THE OPERATIONS PERSONNEL,
SO, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED.
YES.
>> WOULD YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT, WHEN YOU RECRUIT,
ARE YOU GETTING THE RECRUITS
YOU WANT WITH THE EXPERIENCE
THAT YOU NEED?
>> WHEN WE RECRUIT IN 2018,
THAT WAS THE LAST EXAM.
WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 4500
APPLICATIONS.
MAYBE ABOUT 3000 SHOWED UP.
BUT 2000 OR SO MADE IT TO THE
INTERVIEWS AND THEN WE HAVE A
LIST FROM THAT.
SO, THEY COME WITH A WIDE
VARIETY OF EXPERIENCES ALONG
THE WAY.
IN THE SCREENING PROCESS
CONTINUES AFTER THAT. BUT, WE
SEEM TO GET WHAT WE NEED.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A GREAT
PLACE TO BE.
MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW THAT
AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND SEATTLE
IS ONE OF THOSE NATIONALLY
RECOGNIZED DEPARTMENT SO WE GET
PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE
COUNTRY APPLYING FOR, SO IT
SEEMS TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE.
BUT ALONG THE WAY, OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, WE HAVE
APPROXIMATELY 20 WORKSHOPS
SCHEDULED AND IT IS IN ALL
AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY TALKING
ABOUT THE EXAM PROCESS.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXPOS THAT
WILL BE HAPPENING AT THE JOINT
TRAINING FACILITY, AND THE KING
COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS, WE ARE
PARTNERING WITH THEM.
WE SET UP A DIVERSITY AND
RECRUITMENT COMMITTEE AND OVER
THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN
HOLDING WOMEN AND FIRE AND EMS
WORKSHOPS.
OCTOBER 26 AND OCTOBER 27, WE
WILL BE HOSTING IT AT OUR
TRAINING CENTER WOMEN IN FIRE
AND EMS AND THIS IS WHERE WOMEN
FROM NOT JUST SEATTLE, BUT FROM
ALL OVER KING COUNTY WHO ARE
ALREADY FIREFIGHTERS, ARE
COMING TO MENTOR YOUNG WOMEN
AND SHOW THEM WHAT IT IS LIKE
TO PURSUE THIS CAREER AND BECOME
A FIREFIGHTER.
>> IT TO KNOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO MORE
ABOUT THAT LATER.
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
WORK?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I'M GOING ON MY THIRD CAREER.
>> IT IS VERY COMPETITIVE.
>> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> COUNSEL NUMBER O'BRIEN,
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY.
>> SO I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS OR
EFFICIENCIES WITH HAVING THE
PROVIDER ONE, OR THE MEDIC ONE,
HEALTH ONE.
HEALTH ONE SYSTEM.
I ONLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I
DO NOT WANT TO INDICATE THAT
THERE IS ANY DESIRE TO REDUCE
THE BUDGET FOR SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
WE KNOW YOU BEEN DOING MORE
WITH LESS OVER THE YEARS.
LIKE MANY OF OUR PUBLIC
SERVANTS ARE WORKING IN THE
HEALTH ARENA.
SO JUST NOTING THAT IS NOT THE
INTENT HERE, BUT TO TRY TO
FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS COST
SAVINGS WITH HEALTH ONE, ARE WE
ABLE TO ASSUME IN FUTURE
BUDGETS, OR IS IT REFLECTED
HERE, AND THE ABILITY TO SHIFT
TO WHERE PEOPLE HAD PREVIOUSLY
BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND
RESOURCES BRINGING OUT TRUCKS
AND NOW WE ARE ABLE TO USE
HEALTH ONE, DO WE ASSUME THAT
THERE IS ANY WAY TO SHIFT FUNDS
AROUND TO BETTER FULFILL OTHER
AREAS OF THE BUDGET AND IS THAT
REFLECTED IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT
WE SEE?
>> IT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS
PROPOSAL, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN
PAINT THIS PICTURE CORRECTLY.
THE WAY OUR STATIONS ARE LAID
OUT WITH THE 33 FIRE STATIONS
AND THE 11 LADDER TRUCKS,
GEOGRAPHICALLY, A LOT OF THAT
IS BASED ON THE FIRE LOAD OF
THE COMMUNITY, SO, IT IS NOT
JUST EMS, WHICH IS WHAT THE
HEALTH ONE IS GOING TO ADDRESS.
AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE
COMMUNITY, WE CONTINUE TO BUILD
OUT THE FIRE LOAD.
A LOT OF IT IS REALLY BASED ON
THAT. WHAT HEALTH ONE MAY DO,
THEY STOP US IN THE FUTURE FROM
COMING BACK AND ASKING YOU FOR
AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE.
AS WE HAVE DEPLOYED OUR LOW
ACUITY MANAGER DIFFERENT LOW
ACUITY PROGRAMS, WHAT WE'RE
DOING IS SEEING A PLATEAUING OF
RESPONSES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT
OF WORK GOING INTO PLATEAUING
THEM AND NOT CONTINUE THE
CLIENT THAT WE WERE ON FOR THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SO I THINK
THE WORK IS ACTUALLY PAYING
OFF, EVEN IN THE FIRE
PREVENTION BUREAU, SEVERAL
YEARS AGO, YOU FUNDED HIGH-RISES
SPECTERS A GET INSIDE THOSE
BUILDINGS.
THEY ARE HAVING AN IMPACT ON
ACTUALLY HELPING PLATEAU OUR
CALL LOAD TO STOP US FROM
COMING BACK.
INNOCENCE, THERE IS THE COST
SAVINGS, AND BEEN MIGHT NOT
AGREE WITH HOW I SAY THAT, BUT
WE THINK WE ARE SERVING THE
COMMUNITY BETTER.
>> OKAY.
EXCELLENT.
AND NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF?
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOLDING
IN ALL AFTERNOON WITH THIS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, AND
COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN AND
COUNSEL PRESIDENT HARRELL,
THANKS ALL OF YOU.
EIGHT HAVE BEEN HERE ALL DAY.
IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
THANK YOU.
I'M ABOUT READY TO GO TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
>> WE ARE HERE JUST A LITTLE
BIT LONGER.
>> ABSOLUTE.
IS A SOMEBODY WHO IS STILL HERE
THAT WANTS TO TALK WITH US
>> GREG DOSS.
>> DO YOU WANT A PUBLIC
COMMENT?
>> CODY, WE NEED A PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY.
WE WILL SEE YOU MONDAY AT FULL
COUNCIL BUT THE NEXT MEETING OF
THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE
WEDNESDAY AND WE HAVE ADDED
OSCE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.